I missed this yesterday.
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that I think Alex Jones is a fucking idiot whose outlandish claims serve only to obfuscate and discredit the actual facts that are now being confirmed by the steady flow of records being released including the declassified records of congressional hearings dropped yesterday. Alex is a lot like the MSM when it comes to peddling bullshit. [/quote]
Trump has every reason to distrust an intelligence community that was politicized by Obama and still has Obama loyalists among its ranks or didn’t you watch the bullshit impeachment proceedings. He has this in common with Eisenhower, Kennedy and other Presidents who have been burned by the CIA of their day by blown calls, political sculpting of intelligence or misadventure. You must be unaware of the role of Clapper and Brennan in putting the Country through 3 years of investigations costing millions of dollars and ruining a number of lives that had zero predicate and produced zero charges relating to Trump. Look at the official documentation that has come out just in the past few days FFS. The yarn you repeat about Trump revealing classified information and blowing the cover of intelligence assets has been repeatedly and publicly denied by those that were in the room and, in several instances, before Congress under oath. You information is as stale as your thinking. Ha ha.
The sentence in bold above is total horse shit. Who are the contacts you are talking about that we’re not used? Name the conservatives who have conceded this.
Fair criticism is fair criticism and I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me but I’ve lost patience with the terminally obtuse who refuse to acknowledge the facts and fall back on arguments and assertions that have been debunked time and time again on these boards and elsewhere. Beyond that, I think that anyone that’s okay with the crimes that have been committed under the color of law and national security by government officials and the media that gives them cover because they don’t like Trump is a moral coward. I would think the same of myself if the tables were turned and I failed to condemn the same illegal acts committed against a Democrat.
Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 07, 2020, 12:21:39 PM
Like what? Is this Deep State/Q Anon conspiracy stuff? Not interested. While I consider myself a skeptic, I have a hard time believing that rank and file public servants are in on some Illuminati-style plan to undermine the USA. To what end? So Clinton can have her chain of pizza places that traffic children? No sale. I don't fall for the far-fetched InfoWars baloney.
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that I think Alex Jones is a fucking idiot whose outlandish claims serve only to obfuscate and discredit the actual facts that are now being confirmed by the steady flow of records being released including the declassified records of congressional hearings dropped yesterday. Alex is a lot like the MSM when it comes to peddling bullshit. [/quote]
Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 07, 2020, 12:21:39 PMIs that a question that lacks punctuation? I'll assume it's a question. Uhhh, you don't think Donald has done a job on the CIA and other intelligence orgs? Trumpers don't even deny that. He's been doing all manner of irregular things like giving weird political speeches in front of the Memorial Wall, withdrawing crucial spies from Russia, second-guessing the work of our intelligence in public, siding with our enemies, hiring and firing on a weekly basis, the list goes on. If you need me to explain to you how Donald's relationship with the intelligence community is less than optimal... you have a LOT of catching up to do, haha.
Trump has every reason to distrust an intelligence community that was politicized by Obama and still has Obama loyalists among its ranks or didn’t you watch the bullshit impeachment proceedings. He has this in common with Eisenhower, Kennedy and other Presidents who have been burned by the CIA of their day by blown calls, political sculpting of intelligence or misadventure. You must be unaware of the role of Clapper and Brennan in putting the Country through 3 years of investigations costing millions of dollars and ruining a number of lives that had zero predicate and produced zero charges relating to Trump. Look at the official documentation that has come out just in the past few days FFS. The yarn you repeat about Trump revealing classified information and blowing the cover of intelligence assets has been repeatedly and publicly denied by those that were in the room and, in several instances, before Congress under oath. You information is as stale as your thinking. Ha ha.
Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 07, 2020, 12:21:39 PMUh oh, now *I'm* a Deepfake too?! Look man, just because we don't agree with every policy that comes down from the Executive, doesn't mean we're trying to undermine America. It's pretty obvious that Donald bungled this from the outset, and even Conservative voices concede that we shoulda used our contacts in China.
The sentence in bold above is total horse shit. Who are the contacts you are talking about that we’re not used? Name the conservatives who have conceded this.
Fair criticism is fair criticism and I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me but I’ve lost patience with the terminally obtuse who refuse to acknowledge the facts and fall back on arguments and assertions that have been debunked time and time again on these boards and elsewhere. Beyond that, I think that anyone that’s okay with the crimes that have been committed under the color of law and national security by government officials and the media that gives them cover because they don’t like Trump is a moral coward. I would think the same of myself if the tables were turned and I failed to condemn the same illegal acts committed against a Democrat.