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Are there ANY new ideas?

Started by albrecht, January 19, 2019, 09:51:44 PM

albrecht

Or just rehashing of old ones? Over the years reading various books, especially in the world of business or politics, etc but also in novels (where I suspect in the "thriller" genre an AI might be just spitting them out and in "mysteries" that, supplanted with some small edits that old theories, ideas, and methods, are just re-marketed.)  We all know Hollywood just remakes stuff. And that might be ok, or even good, but I wonder if any new ideas, plots, thoughts, are happening? Will/does the internet actually HAMPER new ideas or thoughts? Does "sharing" too quickly inhibit independent thought? Does this hive-mind help innovation or make people drones? In the "old days" you had systems like calculus etc thought-about and made by people on their, relatively, own? Now? Most would go down the same path and, maybe, not figure it out? Or, as some say, the "collective" will benefit?

ksm32

The Borg doesn't seem all that fun to me. Let's get out and punch people in the face 1977 style and get things real again. Hell yeah.

WOTR

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 12:35:54 AM
The Borg doesn't seem all that fun to me. Let's get out and punch people in the face 1977 style and get things real again. Hell yeah.
Good to see you around, KSM...

ksm32

Quote from: WOTR on January 20, 2019, 12:54:36 AM
Good to see you around, KSM...
Thank you, my wife's on the bleed and posting here seemed like the appropriate thing to do. Also, my karma is way too high at the other place and I'm getting uncomfortable.

starrmtn001

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 02:33:51 AM
Thank you, my wife's on the bleed and posting here seemed like the appropriate thing to do. Also, my karma is way too high at the other place and I'm getting uncomfortable.

Hey man, I hope she smacks you!  Why would you embarrass your life-mate like that?? ?  Shame on you!!!
No doubt your karmic (cosmic, not forum) tab is so high with comments like this.  Chill Man. >:(

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 02:33:51 AM
Thank you, my wife's on the bleed and posting here seemed like the appropriate thing to do. Also, my karma is way too high at the other place and I'm getting uncomfortable.

I’m sorry. I like you but this warrants me calling you a faggot. :-\

Metron2267

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 20, 2019, 07:41:22 AM
I’m sorry. I like you but this warrants me calling you a faggot. :-\

And perhaps a globalist too... :-\




Dhea

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 02:33:51 AM
Thank you, my wife's on the bleed and posting here seemed like the appropriate thing to do. Also, my karma is way too high at the other place and I'm getting uncomfortable.

yuk  :(

ksm32

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 20, 2019, 07:41:22 AM
I’m sorry. I like you but this warrants me calling you a faggot. :-\
Lol  that's ok, I deserved it. Second Christmas yesterday and I was on the sauce. A lot of sauce.


no "sauce" jokes please :-X

Gd5150

Quote from: albrecht on January 19, 2019, 09:51:44 PM
Or just rehashing of old ones? Over the years reading various books, especially in the world of business or politics, etc but also in novels (where I suspect in the "thriller" genre an AI might be just spitting them out and in "mysteries" that, supplanted with some small edits that old theories, ideas, and methods, are just re-marketed.)  We all know Hollywood just remakes stuff. And that might be ok, or even good, but I wonder if any new ideas, plots, thoughts, are happening? Will/does the internet actually HAMPER new ideas or thoughts? Does "sharing" too quickly inhibit independent thought? Does this hive-mind help innovation or make people drones? In the "old days" you had systems like calculus etc thought-about and made by people on their, relatively, own? Now? Most would go down the same path and, maybe, not figure it out? Or, as some say, the "collective" will benefit?

Same cycles in fashion and music also. Although the new music industry is all but gone.

WOTR

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 04:03:51 PM
Lol  that's ok, I deserved it. Second Christmas yesterday and I was on the sauce. A lot of sauce.


no "sauce" jokes please :-X
I kind of thought it was amusing.  None of us know your wife- and it seems like a good reason to post here.

See you next month.  ;)



albrecht

Quote from: Gd5150 on January 20, 2019, 04:24:56 PM
Same cycles in fashion and music also. Although the new music industry is all but gone.
There are still some good folks playing, singing, etc but the electronic and business aspect and, I think, the general malaise of instant gratification so practice is not done or appreciated by many. This can be seen in other areas also. Read only headlines (if one even reads,) online gaming versus sport or actual games, porn versus real relationships, CCs etc versus cash, illegal immigration promoted, etc. All according to a plan, or lacking that, at least a certain trajectory. Spiral down the drain, but slowly so most don't notice until that final "woosh."

Dateline

One word, unplug.  There is a world of innovation, but it needs to be distilled in the mind.  As for fashion, back to the caveman and artificial skins would make for some fun.

ksm32

As far as music goes the new ideas are far and few., Hip hop and all that garbage will keep on singing? with autotuned voices and rapping about bitches, ho's and "niggas" Country music is all but dead with the stripper poll and ballcap so-called country artists. Thankfully there is the ever growing outlaw style country so we'll see what happens with that..

Good crunchy hard rock n roll is a bunch of guys like me in their home studios rehashing and chasing certain dragons. But it's fucking fun and sometimes very listenable.

Music is dead but I find solace in the story of Lazarus. :D

As far as movies goes that shit died years ago. Seriously, as everybody awaits the next superhero movie?? Fuck! That!

albrecht

Quote from: Dateline on January 20, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
One word, unplug.  There is a world of innovation, but it needs to be distilled in the mind.  As for fashion, back to the caveman and artificial skins would make for some fun.
Future Primitive, as some skater once claimed/marketed?   ;)

albrecht

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 08:32:10 PM
As far as music goes the new ideas are far and few., Hip hop and all that garbage will keep on singing? with autotuned voices and rapping about bitches, ho's and "niggas" Country music is all but dead with the stripper poll and ballcap so-called country artists. Thankfully there is the ever growing outlaw style country so we'll see what happens with that..

Good crunchy hard rock n roll is a bunch of guys like me in their home studios rehashing and chasing certain dragons. But it's fucking fun and sometimes very listenable.

Music is dead but I find solace in the story of Lazarus. :D

As far as movies goes that shit died years ago. Seriously, as everybody awaits the next superhero movie?? Fuck! That!
Lyrics excepted, I'm increasing enjoying the "Liquid Metal" channel on XM. I don't like the roooaar style of singing, except, maybe in some situations but I like the chord progressions and such. Good for traffic listening. But I also like classical and like, often European but also here, how the styles meld because all about progressions, themes, etc. But, back then, much longer!

WOTR

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 08:32:10 PM
As far as music goes the new ideas are far and few., Hip hop and all that garbage will keep on singing? with autotuned voices and rapping about bitches, ho's and "niggas" Country music is all but dead with the stripper poll and ballcap so-called country artists. Thankfully there is the ever growing outlaw style country so we'll see what happens with that..

It started well over a decade back.  By the time Tracy Byrd and Mark Chestnutt sung "a little sissy in a cowboy hat ain't country" it was already too far gone.  (Can't recall who it was anymore- but I knew exactly which little twitt he was talking about at the time.)  It was the same year as "Murder on music row" was released.

But then, perhaps it started way before my time?  You go back to Waylon and you realize that Nashville was always pumping out anything that they thought would sell- and were willing to sell out in order to get those sales. "It's the same old song, fiddle and guitars... It's been the same way for years."

There is still some talent out there- but almost none of it being promoted by the major labels.  They can't pack a full stadium with an "individual" sound.  Better to promote the homogeneous nondescript crap that they know will go gold... At least it always has in the past.

*To be a little less cynical, perhaps the true music always was underground?  Yeah, the occasional artist makes it to the "big time."  But perhaps it always was the case where you had to search a little deeper to find the true gems?

Every now and then, you realize that there are glimmers of hope- but they are few and far between.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8FwQt0x2vs

Corb Lund has been great.  From his time in the punk scene with the smalls all the way through to his transition over to country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S00y75ebq8

Just for you... Trashville.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDWSjxET1SI

Finally, a bonus.  I believe it is still my favourite Corb Lund song from one of his early albums.  Not so much country- but still a good tune.  A whopping 1500 views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WJNBnEEEls

ksm32

@WOTR Corb is one original dude, fuck yeah. A cover band I was in 2005-2010 did a song called.. Dragons? Something about oil fields and "pulling dragons from the ground" That much I remember about it and that the song is in the key of EH'

You mention Waylon, the one and only. Simply the best there ever was, the best there ever will be. He wouldn't like what's called "music" today to say the least. Did you know he was 6'2 on one leg and 6'1 on the other? Childhood injury caused that and then later he would loose that leg and die a few years later on February 13 2002. It was a Tuesday.  And now if you'll excuse me I'm going to google that to be absolutely sure. If I'm wrong I will edit my post and confess that I was off. But I bet I'm right.

BTW Corb can't drive worth a shit. there's a story there..


Just checked the google and I was right about Waylon  :)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 11:03:03 PM
@WOTR Corb is one original dude, fuck yeah. A cover band I was in 2005-2010 did a song called.. Dragons? Something about oil fields and "pulling dragons from the ground" That much I remember about it and that the song is in the key of EH'

You mention Waylon, the one and only. Simply the best there ever was, the best there ever will be. He wouldn't like what's called "music" today to say the least. Did you know he was 6'2 on one leg and 6'1 on the other? Childhood injury caused that and then later he would loose that leg and die a few years later on February 13 2002. It was a Tuesday.  And now if you'll excuse me I'm going to google that to be absolutely sure. If I'm wrong I will edit my post and confess that I was off. But I bet I'm right.

BTW Corb can't drive worth a shit. there's a story there..


Just checked the google and I was right about Waylon  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNX28cJvn8

ksm32

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 21, 2019, 12:41:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNX28cJvn8
It's late and I better get my arse to bed but that was damn good. #earworm #Merle I'm a Gibson guy but only a single coil pickup muscled fender sounds like that. Amen.


WOTR

Quote from: ksm32 on January 20, 2019, 11:03:03 PM
@WOTR Corb is one original dude, fuck yeah. A cover band I was in 2005-2010 did a song called.. Dragons? Something about oil fields and "pulling dragons from the ground" That much I remember about it and that the song is in the key of EH'

You mention Waylon, the one and only. Simply the best there ever was, the best there ever will be. He wouldn't like what's called "music" today to say the least. Did you know he was 6'2 on one leg and 6'1 on the other? Childhood injury caused that and then later he would loose that leg and die a few years later on February 13 2002. It was a Tuesday.  And now if you'll excuse me I'm going to google that to be absolutely sure. If I'm wrong I will edit my post and confess that I was off. But I bet I'm right.

BTW Corb can't drive worth a shit. there's a story there..


Just checked the google and I was right about Waylon  :)
Bwahah... "The roughest neck around."  Best lyric was "taking fuel from the tanks on his short change shift."  You have no idea how much fuel used to go missing.  You knew who was in the patch by whose truck burned diesel.  ;)  (O.K.  I exaggerate. Some diesels were sold to people who just wanted to pull a trailer.) That should have become Alberta's theme song. 

I will confess that I did not know that about Waylon.  I will also admit that I had no idea about most of his life, that his foot was amputated or the cause of death. I knew he was not a fan of the CMA- and a little of his life. Mostly the well published parts like the plane and Buddy Holly. 

That said- if you look up "Waylon's dead" on youtube, the tribute with Marty, Travis and Hank Jr. was amazing.  I knew that Marty Stuart had some talent- but listening to him play here really drove it home and gave me more respect for his talent (out of the lot, he was probably the one I was least familiar with.  I knew a few of his hits, but didn't necessarily appreciate his talent.)

I a little surprised to find that his music made it's way south of the boarder to the point where a band would cover him.  CI had always figured he was a little more obscure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tltlxcjDjP0



Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Metron2267 on January 21, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
Chow down, Doc:



;D

I know you’re obsessed with fucking goats because it’s pretty much one of the only “memes” you ever post. I’m sure someone told you that the kids think it’s cool. I feel sorry for the goats near you.


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