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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Jackstar

Quote from: whoozit on January 21, 2016, 05:30:44 PM
I didn't know Trump used that for some of his properties.

Just wait until you find out what he used on his hair.


Incidentally, I'm not real clear on all these people "suddenly" having "reservations" about Trump. Seems related to the Palin bump.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Jackstar on January 21, 2016, 05:32:57 PM
Just wait until you find out what he used on his hair.


Incidentally, I'm not real clear on all these people "suddenly" having "reservations" about Trump. Seems related to the Palin bump.
Nah, it was the "2 Corinthians" nonsense at Biblethumper U the other day. 


VtaGeezer

Quote from: The King of Kings on January 21, 2016, 07:04:36 PM
Only Zuul.
New CNN/ORC poll of likely caucus goers shows Trump crushing Rafael by 11 pts in Iowa now, restoring my faith in Iowans.

Quote from: whoozit on January 21, 2016, 05:30:44 PM
I didn't know Trump used that for some of his properties.  Using eminent domain for a highway or other public work is one thing.  Using it to grab private property for a business is bullshit.  I know it's done, but it just isn't right.
Yes, he did.

Quote from: Jackstar on January 21, 2016, 05:32:57 PM
Just wait until you find out what he used on his hair.


Incidentally, I'm not real clear on all these people "suddenly" having "reservations" about Trump. Seems related to the Palin bump.

I will vote for Trump as the nominee but get this straight, he is not going to shake things up in DC,  He's willing to play along with the ol' boys like McConnell and Ryan.  You really want to shake things up, vote Cruz. Or Sanders if you lean that way.

whoozit

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 21, 2016, 07:40:54 PM
Yes, he did.
That is troublesome.  So is this Palin endorsement.  At best she is old news.  If he gets the nomination and chooses her as a running mate he will lose.  I could never vote for Palin, she is a quitter.

WOTR

Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 21, 2016, 12:38:05 PM
I'm still not a Trump voter, though I love his non-PC candor.  But anyone who calls Glenn Beck a wacko is OK in my book.

DT's Tweet:
"Wacko @glennbeck is a sad answer to the @SarahPalinUSA endorsement that Cruz so desperately wanted. Glenn is a failing, crying, lost soul!
â€" Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 21, 2016"
You should see the tweet that Donald had cooked up if he didn't get the Palin endorsement.  It was something about a played out, loose, cold Alaskan twat.

Jackstar

drudgereport.com is running a poll for president--hardly scientific, but it's mighty interesting the way Bush and Clinton are tied.


VtaGeezer

Quote from: Jackstar on January 21, 2016, 09:24:00 PM
drudgereport.com is running a poll for president--hardly scientific, but it's mighty interesting the way Bush and Clinton are tied.
A Drudge poll with Clinton is as sound a Huff Post poll with Cruz.

Jackstar

Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 21, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
A Drudge poll with Clinton is as sound a Huff Post poll with Cruz.

Duly obvious. I wasn't suggesting that anyone buy stock, ffs lol


anunnaki


Who Trump Really Is

Well worth the time to read but Chuck Yeager gives us a picture of Donald Trump that appeals to the American way of life. How do we think he managed to get so independently rich? He didn’t do it by undermining the American way of life!! It will pay you to take the time to read this and decide for yourself. Chuck Yeager is a retired U.S. Air Force Pilot.

Donald Trumpâ€"Who He REALLY Is by Chuck Yeager

The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something. They are lacking in negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity than people may think.

And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others. But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:

1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.

3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 8 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):
American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
Only go to war to win.
Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
See the unseen.
Prepare for threats before they materialize.
Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.

6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act â€" NOPEC â€" S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:

Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%$1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.

10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.

11.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.

12.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax. (Unlike Art Bell, who voted for the Muslim)

13.) Trump opposes Common Core.

14.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.

15.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.

16.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states’ rights issue, not a federal issue.

17.) Trump supports the death penalty.

Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense, innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm. looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point:

“When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy.

We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense.

It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense.” On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time.

Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally. He’s a fighter that clearly loves America and would fight for our nation.

Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately â€" fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans.

Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them.
Before we criticize someone because of what the media is saying, maybe we should consider what they have to offer. What are they bringing to the table. Researching their background independently of what the news says. What’s their bio??


What’s Obama’s bio?-
If you researched him prior to becoming President, would you have hired him to work for you or run your business? (Or be a Dog Catcher?)

Designx

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on January 22, 2016, 08:29:38 PM


LOL I love it - his brainless minions are totally behind Cruz - for Beck, Trump is just not "God" enough.

Not only did Chuck Yeager endorse Trump, but Mister Rogers was a Navy Seal who killed a couple dozen Viet Cong with his bare hands and Ken Osmond, who played Eddie Haskell,  was John C. Holmes after he grew up (so to speak).

VtaGeezer

Surprise, surprise.  The Chuck Yeager "endorsement" is a hoax.  Whodathunkit.

http://www.snopes.com/chuck-yeager-donald-trump-endorsement/

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: anunnaki on January 22, 2016, 10:47:09 PM
Who Trump Really Is

Well worth the time to read but Chuck Yeager gives us a picture of Donald Trump that appeals to the American way of life. How do we think he managed to get so independently rich? He didn’t do it by undermining the American way of life!! It will pay you to take the time to read this and decide for yourself. Chuck Yeager is a retired U.S. Air Force Pilot.

Donald Trumpâ€"Who He REALLY Is by Chuck Yeager

The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something. They are lacking in negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity than people may think.

And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others. But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:

1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.

3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 8 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):
American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
Only go to war to win.
Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
See the unseen.
Prepare for threats before they materialize.
Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.

6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act â€" NOPEC â€" S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:

Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%$1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%

9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.

10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.

11.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.

12.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax. (Unlike Art Bell, who voted for the Muslim)

13.) Trump opposes Common Core.

14.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.

15.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.

16.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states’ rights issue, not a federal issue.

17.) Trump supports the death penalty.

Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense, innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm. looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point:

“When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy.

We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense.

It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense.” On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time.

Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally. He’s a fighter that clearly loves America and would fight for our nation.

Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately â€" fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans.

Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them.
Before we criticize someone because of what the media is saying, maybe we should consider what they have to offer. What are they bringing to the table. Researching their background independently of what the news says. What’s their bio??


What’s Obama’s bio?-
If you researched him prior to becoming President, would you have hired him to work for you or run your business? (Or be a Dog Catcher?)

Turbo Mode Level 3 enabled.

Faustina

Quote from: anunnaki on January 22, 2016, 10:47:09 PM

Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them.
Before we criticize someone because of what the media is saying, maybe we should consider what they have to offer. What are they bringing to the table. Researching their background independently of what the news says. What’s their bio??


Yep.  And I would love to see him let loose on Washington and shaking up the Establishment there in a way that would actually cause changes to how business is conducted in that town.  He may be the only candidate who has the guts to even try that.  (The others will all think it would be impossible and not even try). 


Value Of Pi

I have no trouble understanding Trump's appeal and why he would find so much support for so many of his policy positions. However, my acid test for character and judgement before pulling the lever is to drop the candidate into JFK's shoes during the Cuban Missile Crisis. How do I think he or she would have handled it?

Obviously, this is highly hypothetical but to me it is a useful exercise. My gut feeling, based on all I have learned about Trump, would be not to trust his judgement or his actions in this situation or a similar one involving his role as Commander-in-Chief. That may seem like a narrow basis for disqualifying a candidate for further consideration, but nothing else matters if I don't trust a president as CIC.

Jackstar

Quote from: MV on January 22, 2016, 11:28:57 PM
Turbo Mode Level 3 enabled.

"I loved it. It was much better than Cats."

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 21, 2016, 02:29:39 PM
I'm starting to have some reservations about Trump.  He supports increasing the ethanol subsidies which reeks of crony capitalism.  Some old-time Establishment types like Bob Dole and Mitch McConnell are starting to support Trump.  Trump is starting to talk about making deals with the Democrats.  Other than his stand against unfettered immigration, he is starting to come across as a RINO.  At least to my eyes.

You mean you are surprised that the wallstreet insider is likely to line the pockets of his friends?

Quote from: Designx on January 22, 2016, 11:01:53 PM
LOL I love it - his brainless minions are totally behind Cruz - for Beck, Trump is just not "God" enough.

I prefer Cruz to Trump. But I realize Cruz would have a tough time getting his agenda through Congress. Looks like Bush is trending upward albeit very slowly. I think the media could spin it as a comeback still.

SredniVashtar

I was trying to think who Trump reminded me of, vocally. To me, at least, he sounds a lot like Sam Kinison.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 21, 2016, 05:06:47 PM
Another problem that I have with Trump is his support of eminent domain.  For those that don't understand the issue, that is when the government be it federal or local,  takes away people's land indiscriminately so they can build a highway or construct a business.  An everyday example of this is when a highway needs to be widened and the government takes property from landowners to achieve this purpose. Sure, they get some compensation but tell that to the farmer who is having his life disrupted.  Trump has used eminent domain to build hotels and other buildings.

This is somewhat of a sticking point for me too. I've been involved with an eminent domain case and while I came out smelling like roses (I got 3x market value) it's a really nasty business where they'll assess tax revenues for large lot houses or small businesses and doze them in order to build denser subdivisions or higher volume businesses to increase property tax or sales tax revenues. That was never the intent of eminent domain, obviously. Oddly, it's usually always the GOP that opposes the misuse of eminent domain, but not in the case of Trump it would seem.

That said, no one other than Trump can realistically win against Hillary. All other issues are secondary to me when compared to keeping her out of the White House. I could be wrong, and it would be glorious if it happened, but I don't think she's going to get indicted.

Lt.Uhura

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" "It's like incredible."
--Donald Trump

It will be like incredible if Trump makes it as far as the primaries without being taken in as a danger to himself or others.

qaddisin

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on January 23, 2016, 05:35:08 PM
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" "It's like incredible."
--Donald Trump


Especially if it was a black person, Mexican or Muslim.

Hell, King of Kings might just push to name him God-Emperor.

albrecht

Quote from: qaddisin on January 23, 2016, 08:49:05 PM
Especially if it was a black person, Mexican or Muslim.

Hell, King of Kings might just push to name him God-Emperor.
Not to call you racist, because Hispanic is not a race,  but you are aware that a "black" can be a "Mexican," using your catch-all term for Hispanic. And a "Mexican" can even be a  Muslim or even Jewish. Yep. "Jew-mexicans," as you might call them. Mexico, by the way, even has a character called "El Negrito" on a stamp and in their popular 'Lotteria' game.

qaddisin

Quote from: albrecht on January 23, 2016, 09:50:09 PM
Not to call you racist, because Hispanic is not a race,  but you are aware that a "black" can be a "Mexican," using your catch-all term for Hispanic. And a "Mexican" can even be a  Muslim or even Jewish. Yep. "Jew-mexicans," as you might call them. Mexico, by the way, even has a character called "El Negrito" on a stamp and in their popular 'Lotteria' game.

You want to call me (or not call me, I'm not sure where you're going with that) a racist for using the same descriptions Trump has used to describe certain people in the past, that's fine.

"I have a great relationship with the blacks. I've always had a great relationship with the blacks." (It's still disputed whether he once said that "laziness is a trait inherent in the blacks".)

Granted, in his diatribe against Mexican immigrants, he did not use the word "Mexicans". He said "When Mexico sends its people...". If this offends your delicate sensitivities, I can change it to "people from Mexico". Nowhere in that post did I use the word 'hispanic', so I'm not sure how that is even germane to this.

“... a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States..." While I don't have any evidence, I don't think he was singling out a particular ethnicity when he called for this. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem shooting a Muslim that identifies as Caucasian or Arabic.



albrecht

Quote from: qaddisin on January 23, 2016, 10:28:08 PM
You want to call me (or not call me, I'm not sure where you're going with that) a racist for using the same descriptions Trump has used to describe certain people in the past, that's fine.

"I have a great relationship with the blacks. I've always had a great relationship with the blacks." (It's still disputed whether he once said that "laziness is a trait inherent in the blacks".)

Granted, in his diatribe against Mexican immigrants, he did not use the word "Mexicans". He said "When Mexico sends its people...". If this offends your delicate sensitivities, I can change it to "people from Mexico". Nowhere in that post did I use the word 'hispanic', so I'm not sure how that is even germane to this.

“... a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States..." While I don't have any evidence, I don't think he was singling out a particular ethnicity when he called for this. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem shooting a Muslim that identifies as Caucasian or Arabic.
True. Many dont realize the danger of so-called Caucasian Muslims! It is important to not make it some 'racial' issue.

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on January 23, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
Many dont realize the danger of so-called Caucasian Muslims!


Quote from: Jackstar on January 18, 2016, 09:21:09 PM
"Why do these people obsess about gathering around a rock that fell from space?"



How does no one else notice that they store the fucking thing in a huge black cube?? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

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