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Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 09, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
So, Meryl Streep called upon the "principled press" to hold power accountable now. Funny, she didn't seem too concerned about this for the past 8 years though. ::)

Please, Ms. Streep! Stick to acting.  :D

Achieving star status automatically confers superior wisdom.  Look it up!






Taaroa

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 07:17:47 AM
Not much different than typical democrat voters in the large urban areas that have become Democrat party strongholds whose vote is a Pavlovian response rather than an informed choice.

Except it's mandatory, so you'd get people voting who'd normally be staying at home.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Taaroa on January 09, 2017, 07:53:31 AM
Except it's mandatory, so you'd get people voting who'd normally be staying at home.

Understand but the result is the same--people in the inner city who don't understand much about anything go to the polls and vote out of a sense of tradition and in many cases because they are compelled by party operatives who offer various rewards (money, favors, etc.) and show up on their doorsteps to drive them to the polls.  This kind of thing is rampant and acknowledged albeit illegal.
I'm sure that under the above circumstances many regard their voting to be mandatory.

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 09, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
Please, Ms. Streep! Stick to acting.  :D


The full transcript of Streep's speech is below.

QuoteI love you all. You have to forgive me, I have lost my voice in screaming and lamentation this weekend and I have lost my mind sometime earlier this year so I have to read.

Thank you, Hollywood Foreign Press. Just to pick up on what Hugh Laurie said, you and all of us in this room really belong to the most vilified segments of American society right now. Think about it: Hollywood, foreigners and the press.

But who are we and, you know, what is Hollywood, anyway? It’s just a bunch of people from other places. I was born and raised and educated in the public schools of New Jersey, Viola was born in a sharecropper's cabin in South Carolina, came up in Central Falls,  R.I. Sarah Paulson was born in Florida, raised by a single mom in Brooklyn. Sarah Jessica Parker was one of seven or eight kids from Ohio, Amy Adams was born in Vicenza, Veneto, Italy and Natalie Portman was born in Jerusalem. Where are their birth certificates?

And the beautiful Ruth Negga was born in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, raised in Lon â€" no, in Ireland, I do believe, and she’s here nominated for playing a small-town girl from Virginia. Ryan Gosling, like all the nicest people, is Canadian. And Dev Patel was born in Kenya, raised in London and is here playing an Indian raised in Tasmania. So Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners and if we kick them all out, you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.

They gave me three seconds to say this, so. An actor’s only job is to enter the lives of people who are different from us and let you feel what that feels like. And there were many, many, many powerful performances this year that did exactly that, breathtaking, compassionate work.

But there was one performance this year that stunned me. It sank its hooks in my heart, not because it was good, it was â€" there’s nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh and show their teeth.

It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege and power and the capacity to fight back. It, it kind of broke my heart when I saw it and I still can’t get it out my head because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.

Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose. OK, go on with that thing. OK, this brings me to the press. We need the principled press to hold power to account, to call them on the carpet for every outrage.

That’s why our founders enshrined the press and its freedoms in our constitution. So I only ask the famously well-heeled Hollywood foreign press and all of us in our community to join me in supporting the Committee to Protect Journalists, ’cause we’re going to need them going forward and they’ll need us to safeguard the truth.

One more thing. Once when I was standing around the set one day, whining about something, we were going to work through supper or the long hours or whatever, Tommy Lee Jones said to me: “Isn't it such a privilege, Meryl, just to be an actor?” Yeah, it is. And we have to remind each other of the privilege and the responsibility of the act of empathy. We should be very proud of the work Hollywood honors here tonight,

As my, as my friend, the dear departed Princess Leia, said to me once: “Take your broken heart, make it into art.”

Thank you, Foreign Press.










The resemblance is uncanny.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Jackstar on January 09, 2017, 08:46:38 AM

The full transcript of Streep's speech is below.





Where does she imagine a "principled press" can be found?




The resemblance is uncanny.

Jackstar

The arrogance is infuriating. "I don't care about the White House Chief of Staff going to a #spiritcooking dinner, but making fun of a retard is just BEYOND THE PALE!!!"

I guess it hits close to home.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on January 09, 2017, 10:11:13 AM
The arrogance is infuriating. "I don't care about the White House Chief of Staff going to a #spiritcooking dinner, but making fun of a retard is just BEYOND THE PALE!!!"

I guess it hits close to home.

Hey Jacky, does it need explaning? One of the above actually happened; live on telly. The other is a wet dream for you.

You still haven't explained where you were when John Lennon was shot.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Jackstar on January 09, 2017, 08:46:38 AM


The resemblance is uncanny.

Where does she imagine we would find a "principled press?"

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 10:48:39 AM
Where does she imagine we would find a "principled press?"

In the same box she'd find a version of Trump who thought mocking a physically disabled man was disgusting? Maybe?

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 09, 2017, 10:47:30 AM
Hey Jacky, does it need explaning? One of the above actually happened; live on telly. The other is a wet dream for you.

You still haven't explained where you were when John Lennon was shot.

I really don't care about what Meryl has to say.  I'm waiting for Snoop Dog to weigh in. 


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 09, 2017, 10:52:15 AM
In the same box she'd find a version of Trump who thought mocking a physically disabled man was disgusting? Maybe?

Nobody has a sense of humor any more.  Fuck'em if they can't take joke.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 10:56:50 AM
Nobody has a sense of humor any more.  Fuck'em if they can't take joke.

Yeah. As long as the same tolerance to being mocked is taken by Trump...After all he never responds in a tantrum, and is able to laugh at himself.

Jackstar

QuoteIt all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Drumpf said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell. As he told George Stephanopolous in an interview the next day on ABC’s “This Week”:

DRUMPF: “There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down. I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering…as those buildings came down. And that tells you something…”
Stephanopolous and all of the major news outlets immediately denied the existence of any such news reports following 9/11. One paper, the Washington Post, even went so far as to write a detailed article claiming to “fact check” Mr. Drumpf. After an exhaustive review, the Post lectured that there was absolutely no evidence of Drumpf’s claim and deemed it false.

Imagine the Washington Post’s surprise when Drumpf uncovered one of the Washington Post’s own reporters, Serge Kovaleski, supporting the claim in an article Kovaleski wrote for them on September 18, 2001. Kovaleski wrote:

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.
Very embarrassing for the media, especially the Washington Post which had done such a great job scouring news reports after 9/11 that they missed their very own story on the subject. It was in this state of embarrassment that the media was desperate to distract from the matter. The Washington Post ended up finding  Kovaleski, now writing for the New York Times, so he could do damage control. Kovaleski predictably tried to backtrack from his 2001 account saying he didn’t remember the details:

“I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” said Serge Kovaleski, one of the reporters. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember.”
Enter Donald Drumpf’s rally in South Carolina soon thereafter. During the rally Drumpf pointed all of this out and paraphrased Kovaleski’s backtracking as he impersonated a groveling reporter changing his story under pressure. While he did this, Drumpf moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.

Soon thereafter, the media revealed still photos of Kovaleski with his right hand in a permanently flexed position downward announcing that he was disabled. The media then shifted from trying to defend their oversight of the 9/11 Post article and instead, with disapproving shocked outrage, accused Drumpf of mocking a reporter’s disability.



Obvious psyop is obvious. I'm embarrassed for you for falling for this.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 09, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
Yeah. As long as the same tolerance to being mocked is taken by Trump...After all he never responds in a tantrum, and is able to laugh at himself.


Okay so nobody's perfect but you have to admit, he's got a great hair stylist

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on January 09, 2017, 11:04:28 AM


Obvious psyop is obvious. I'm embarrassed for you for falling for this.

What does Alex Jones have to say? You did ask I take it? Didn't you?

pyewacket

Quote from: Jackstar on January 09, 2017, 10:11:13 AM
The arrogance is infuriating. "I don't care about the White House Chief of Staff going to a #spiritcooking dinner, but making fun of a retard is just BEYOND THE PALE!!!"

I guess it hits close to home.

I find it curious that Ms. Streep made no mention of the recent case where a mentally disabled youth was physically and mentally tortured by abusers who gleefully posted his humiliation/suffering on social media.

Is she really that concerned about the plight of handicapped people or was this just another opportunity to advance her political views? 

Maybe the latter because the abusers appear share some of her views.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 11:07:38 AM

Okay so nobody's perfect but you have to admit, he's got a great hair stylist

The best. Sadly though, not one who has Trump's best interests at heart. But who can blame them? If I was being paid that amount of money, I'd tell the dumbass he looked fantastic too.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on January 09, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
I find it curious that Ms. Streep made no mention of the recent case where a mentally disabled youth was physically and mentally tortured by abusers who gleefully posted his humiliation/suffering on social media.

Is she really that concerned about the plight of handicapped people or was this just another opportunity to advance her political views? 

Maybe the latter because the abusers appear share some of her views.

Or the 1000's of other cases of abuse in the system currently. One is a case in the criminal system, and therefore sub judice, the other is your next POTUS trying for a cheap laugh making himself look 'funny' mocking a disabled man who said hurtful things about him. Poor Donaod, he has feelings too.

Dr. MD MD


ItsOver

Quote from: pyewacket on January 09, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
...or was this just another opportunity to advance her political views? 

Yes.  Just like BellGab.  Who's Art Bell?

Yorkshire pud

At least Donny has kept a dignified silence about Miss Streep, and hasn't resorted to petulance to answer demonstrably  wrong assertions (her acting ability) because he is all butt hurt over a political matter. He never fails to be a toddler.  ;D

"Meryl Streep, one of the most overrated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes."

Kidnostad3

Quote from: pyewacket on January 09, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
I find it curious that Ms. Streep made no mention of the recent case where a mentally disabled youth was physically and mentally tortured by abusers who gleefully posted his humiliation/suffering on social media.

Is she really that concerned about the plight of handicapped people or was this just another opportunity to advance her political views? 

Maybe the latter because the abusers appear share some of her views.

No they can't be held responsible because they continue to be the victims of slavery and oppression  and they haven't gotten anything in the way of compensation or reasonable accommodation from the government since the Johnson Administration passed all that civil rights stuff. 

pyewacket

Quote from: ItsOver on January 09, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
Yes.  Just like BellGab.  Who's Art Bell?

You're right about that, IO. At least most of us try to keep our comments in the political threads.  :)


Kidnostad3


ItsOver

Quote from: pyewacket on January 09, 2017, 11:30:33 AM
You're right about that, IO. At least most of us try to keep our comments in the political threads.  :)
Ha.  Yes, thank yeeewww!


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 11:28:55 AM
No they can't be held responsible because they continue to be the victims of slavery and oppression  and they haven't gotten anything in the way of compensation or reasonable accommodation from the government since the Johnson Administration passed all that civil rights stuff.

They been convicted then? That was quick.

pyewacket

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 11:28:55 AM
No they can't be held responsible because they continue to be the victims of slavery and oppression  and they haven't gotten anything in the way of compensation or reasonable accommodation from the government since the Johnson Administration passed all that civil rights stuff.

It appears that Dr. Drew would agree-

Quote from: dailymail.com.uk

The story of the four young adults who kidnapped and tortured a disabled man on Facebook live is sweeping the country.

However David Drew Pinsky, best known as Dr Drew, admittedly had a very unusual reaction to the video when he saw it.

In a video on TMZ, he says: 'I had a very strange reaction where I felt bad for the kids perpetrating it, I really felt horrible for them.' 

He went on to clarify that he felt terrible for the victim, and said that nothing excuses what they did.

Dr Drew said in the video: 'What's going wrong in those kids' lives that they could think not only that that's funny, but that everybody else would think it was funny and that it would be OK to stream it.

'Their lives are going to be over, we've failed them, we have failed them.'

He later explains to TMZ that he thinks parents have to be more 'on top of' kids and set firmer limits in certain respects without being aggressive with them.

He said: 'I'm afraid we lose track of that line and end up being aggressive with our kids and then having aggressive kids.

'I mean if we were aggressive with a dog and that dog ended up biting people would we be surprised?'

Dr Drew was referring to the Facebook live video in which four kids torture a disabled man after kidnapping him in a McDonald's in Chicago.   

The video shows the victim being beaten, cut with a knife, burned with cigarettes and at one point, a piece of his scalp was cut off.

The gang forced the disabled man to drink toilet water and kiss the floor, according to police.

The suspects also allegedly stuffed a sock into his mouth, taped his mouth shut and bound his hands with a belt.

One of the four accused can be heard screaming, 'f*** Donald Trump, f*** white people' at the victim.

In response, a GoFundMe has been set up for the family by strangers. The campaign has already raised over $100,000.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4099712/Dr-Drew-feels-SORRY-Facebook-live-torturers.html#ixzz4VHrDBesa
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See- it just bad parenting on top of what you said.  ::)

There will be a crusade by the liberal media to make the perps the REAL vicitms.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on January 09, 2017, 11:43:26 AM
It appears that Dr. Drew would agree-


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4099712/Dr-Drew-feels-SORRY-Facebook-live-torturers.html#ixzz4VHrDBesa
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See- it just bad parenting on top of what you said.  ::)

There will be a crusade by the liberal media to make the perps the REAL vicitms.

And anyone who has never broken the law, doesn't because they had good parenting, decent peers and were quite smart? Yes?

Look up the dreadful case of the murder of Jamie Bulger in Liverpool in the 90's. Look up how one of the shits who murdered him (they were aged ten) became a shit partly because from aged five, his 'parents' showed him a diet of sado masochistic porn on video.

I guess I had perfect parents cos I haven't had so much as a parking ticket.  :-\

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 09, 2017, 11:35:03 AM
They been convicted then? That was quick.


No and they may not be for the aforementioned reasons.  Again the spectre of inherited hatred rears its ugly head.  Afterall, how can these children be held responsible for a genetic condition?   What are we barbarians?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 09, 2017, 12:01:22 PM

No and they may not be for the aforementioned reasons.  Again the spectre of inherited hatred rears its ugly head.  Afterall, how can these children be held responsible for a genetic condition?   What are we barbarians?

My instinct if it had been my boy they abused, would be to find and kill them. I wouldn't rest until they were. Years ago I had a schoolfiend who joined the police. After a few years he'd obviously seen it and been there, and got the t shirt. His opinion to how rapists and child molesters should be treated was simple but effective.

Put em in room full of women.

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