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Element 115

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on November 19, 2016, 11:19:53 AM
Thanks for that tip.

Ouch!  My pride.

Actually, though, that's an important point.  My girlfriend kept bugging the shit out of me, trying to figure out how to do things in Win 10, which was the OS on the laptop that I bought for her.  Such a pain in the ass.  I gave her a live boot flash drive with Mint 18 Cinnamon on it to check it out.  Not sure how this version performs off of a DVD, but booted off of a flash drive it operates so responsively that you would swear that it was installed on the hard drive.  Point being that you can download Mint 18, install it on a flash drive, boot it from the flash drive, and use it to your heart's content without ever touching your accursed Win 10 install.  Great way to try it out.  If you decide it's not for you, simply remove the flash drive.  That's it.

Two reviews of Linux Mint 18:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-mint-18-the-best-desktop-period/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/mint-18-review-just-works-linux-doesnt-get-any-better-than-this/

Download page -- all of these are Linux Mint 18 iso files.  There are four different interfaces you can choose from.  I prefer Cinnamon, though others may have a different opinion.  The OS is the same, it's just a different interface presentation (things will be organized and presented differently to you from the taskbar).  Also, there are 32 and 64 bit editions depending upon your hardware.

https://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=27

Installing on a flash drive: you need at least an 8 gb flash drive (16 gb is better).  The tool below will install the iso file on your flash drive; you need then only boot from the flash drive rather than your hard drive, and Mint will run completely from the flash drive and not touch the hard drive at all.  Bonus: if you want to continue to run from the flash drive for a time, you can install software and OS updates onto the flash drive installation, provided that you allocate some space on the flash drive to store those updates.  Later, if you decided that you want to install it on your hard drive, there is a link to do that on the desktop.

This is one of many locations to download the FREE utility Universal USB Installer.  This one has a few screenshots.  Be sure that you use an empty or unneeded flash drive as the Linux install on that flash drive will erase everything on it.

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

Thanks for that zdnet review link. Great article. Wow, I love this:

"Mint still runs on old computers you have sitting in your garage. You only need 512MBs of RAM to run it, although 1GB is recommended. You can fit Mint on a 10GB hard-drive, although 20GB is recommended."


albrecht

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on November 19, 2016, 11:19:53 AM
Thanks for that tip.

Ouch!  My pride.

Actually, though, that's an important point.  My girlfriend kept bugging the shit out of me, trying to figure out how to do things in Win 10, which was the OS on the laptop that I bought for her.  Such a pain in the ass.  I gave her a live boot flash drive with Mint 18 Cinnamon on it to check it out.  Not sure how this version performs off of a DVD, but booted off of a flash drive it operates so responsively that you would swear that it was installed on the hard drive.  Point being that you can download Mint 18, install it on a flash drive, boot it from the flash drive, and use it to your heart's content without ever touching your accursed Win 10 install.  Great way to try it out.  If you decide it's not for you, simply remove the flash drive.  That's it.

Two reviews of Linux Mint 18:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-mint-18-the-best-desktop-period/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/mint-18-review-just-works-linux-doesnt-get-any-better-than-this/

Download page -- all of these are Linux Mint 18 iso files.  There are four different interfaces you can choose from.  I prefer Cinnamon, though others may have a different opinion.  The OS is the same, it's just a different interface presentation (things will be organized and presented differently to you from the taskbar).  Also, there are 32 and 64 bit editions depending upon your hardware.

https://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=27

Installing on a flash drive: you need at least an 8 gb flash drive (16 gb is better).  The tool below will install the iso file on your flash drive; you need then only boot from the flash drive rather than your hard drive, and Mint will run completely from the flash drive and not touch the hard drive at all.  Bonus: if you want to continue to run from the flash drive for a time, you can install software and OS updates onto the flash drive installation, provided that you allocate some space on the flash drive to store those updates.  Later, if you decided that you want to install it on your hard drive, there is a link to do that on the desktop.

This is one of many locations to download the FREE utility Universal USB Installer.  This one has a few screenshots.  Be sure that you use an empty or unneeded flash drive as the Linux install on that flash drive will erase everything on it.

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
Thanks, re: Linux Mint, I did it a while ago with an old "useless" laptop and now runs quick and for basic stuff (watching movies, email, etc) no heavy gaming or any business tasks. I think "Mate" version? Forget. But some poster have said that Linux is also infected, or something, by Microsoft or "them?" I'm not doing anything illegal but still hestitant to online bank or do business stuff on it. I can't find, maybe built in, anti-virus/malware programs for it and not sure about firewalls (not a computer guy so I might be not looking in right places.) Did find bleach-bit, before the Hillary stuff even, but even then it "says" some stuff "errors" when cleaning. And weird stuff like "as root" or otherwise. Basically I'm paranoid a bit, and like to clear everything and not due financial stuff on it unless clearly secure, and not familiar with Linux and the system. I like the speed though..

Lilith

Quote from: albrecht on November 19, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
Thanks, re: Linux Mint, I did it a while ago with an old "useless" laptop and now runs quick and for basic stuff (watching movies, email, etc) no heavy gaming or any business tasks. I think "Mate" version? Forget. But some poster have said that Linux is also infected, or something, by Microsoft or "them?" I'm not doing anything illegal but still hestitant to online bank or do business stuff on it. I can't find, maybe built in, anti-virus/malware programs for it and not sure about firewalls (not a computer guy so I might be not looking in right places.) Did find bleach-bit, before the Hillary stuff even, but even then it "says" some stuff "errors" when cleaning. And weird stuff like "as root" or otherwise. Basically I'm paranoid a bit, and like to clear everything and not due financial stuff on it unless clearly secure, and not familiar with Linux and the system. I like the speed though..

I think Debian is still Microsoft free, but Ubuntu based and Microsoft have been "friends" since Windows 8 I think.

Element 115

How do I bypass the boot option screen on Linux Mint 18? It always asks me whether I want to boot into Mint, Windows, etc. I installed as standalone, not alongside Windows yet it still asks me upon boot. If I wait, it defaults to Mint. I'd love to just bypass that menu.

Quote from: Element 115 on November 20, 2016, 07:55:51 AM
How do I bypass the boot option screen on Linux Mint 18? It always asks me whether I want to boot into Mint, Windows, etc. I installed as standalone, not alongside Windows yet it still asks me upon boot. If I wait, it defaults to Mint. I'd love to just bypass that menu.

You say that you have a standalone installation, yet you also say that the grub bootloader ask you if you want to boot into Windows.  So I don't understand that.

My suggestion is that you don't remove the bootloader, but instead minimize the timeout.  It's a simpler process and you can easily restore the bootloader if you want to use one of the options on it in the future.

FAST EXPLANATION:  Edit the file /etc/default/grub and change the parameter GRUB_TIMEOUT from 10 to 0.1.  Run sudo update-grub afterwards to load the new setting.

VERBOSE EXPLANATION: The configuration file /etc/default/grub has a line which defines the timeout.  You will need to edit this file as root.  You can use vi edit if you are familiar with that, or use a gui editor such as Leafpad by opening a terminal and entering in the following commands:

cd /etc/default

sudo leafpad grub

Enter your root password, and the usual Leafpad interface will appear.  You will find a line there that should say

GRUB_TIMEOUT=10

That's the time you have to make a selection on the bootloader before it times out and selects the default.  Set this line to

GRUB_TIMEOUT=0.1

On some versions of Linux, you can set this to zero and disable the bootloader completely; Linux Mint 18 does not allow this.  You should find that a setting of 0.1 is so short that the menu is not even displayed.  It is almost as fast as removing the bootloader completely.  After you make this edit, save the file and exit Leafpad.

Next, you have to load the new setting.  Enter the following command into the terminal:

sudo update-grub

That should do it.  You can reboot and see if it works for you.

Quote from: brigâ,,¢ on November 20, 2016, 05:04:56 AM
I think Debian is still Microsoft free, but Ubuntu based and Microsoft have been "friends" since Windows 8 I think.

Wait a minute.  All Linux distros that I am aware of are "MS free."  MS is planning to put an image of Ubuntu on top of Win 10.  If you run Ubuntu in that way, I suspect that MS will have its greasy dick up your ass while you do so.  But if you run Ubuntu natively, then there is no cause for concern.

Quote from: albrecht on November 19, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
But some poster have said that Linux is also infected, or something, by Microsoft or "them?" I'm not doing anything illegal but still hestitant to online bank or do business stuff on it. .

No, Linux is not "infected" with MS.  If you run the version of Ubuntu that MS plans to layer on top of Win 10 that might be true.  But if you install it and run it in the usual fashion, it has nothing to do with MS.

Quote from: albrecht on November 19, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
I can't find, maybe built in, anti-virus/malware programs for it and not sure about firewalls (not a computer guy so I might be not looking in right places.)

There aren't really any legitimate anti-virus/malware programs out there for Linux, as they are not needed.  The explanation is a bit technical, but briefly stated, the Linux OS operates in a fundamentally different way from Windows.  Viruses and malware that can infect and live within Windows will not work within Linux.  That's one reason why Linux is such a popular choice with IT guys at the server level. 

Not sure which version of Mint you are on, but somewhere in the Menu there should be a program called Firewall Configuration (look under System for starters).  After you launch it, you need to unlock it using your root password.  Then you can configure it.  A quick, safe configuration is Status = ON, Incoming = Deny, Outgoing = Allow.  You may find that this interferes with certain functions (for example, your torrents that are downloading horse porn suddenly dry up).  In that case, you'll have to create a rule to allow that traffic past the firewall.  For the usage you describe, these settings should work.

Quote from: albrecht on November 19, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
Did find bleach-bit, before the Hillary stuff even, but even then it "says" some stuff "errors" when cleaning. And weird stuff like "as root" or otherwise. Basically I'm paranoid a bit, and like to clear everything and not due financial stuff on it unless clearly secure, and not familiar with Linux and the system. I like the speed though..

Bleach Bit has a bad reputation within the Linux community and I recommend that you do NOT use it.  You can actually do more harm than good with it.

As far as residue, there is much more of it in Windows, and even things like CCleaner don't clear out all of it.  Linux is pretty efficient at keeping things tidy, but there will always be traces (thumbnails of your horse porn, for example).  The only sure way to avoid this is to install Mint (or some other live boot Linux distro) on a DVD and run it off of that.  You will be able to check email and watch your horse porn, but when you shut things down it all disappears.  Nothing is written to the DVD or to your hard drive, and all traces go up in smoke.  Alternatively, you could laboriously comb through your file system and manually remove traces, but even then you can't be sure.  Certain files which you can't directly see into may contain residue you would want to remove (the pagefile in Windows, for example).

Element 115

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on November 20, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
You say that you have a standalone installation, yet you also say that the grub bootloader ask you if you want to boot into Windows.  So I don't understand that.

My suggestion is that you don't remove the bootloader, but instead minimize the timeout.  It's a simpler process and you can easily restore the bootloader if you want to use one of the options on it in the future.

FAST EXPLANATION:  Edit the file /etc/default/grub and change the parameter GRUB_TIMEOUT from 10 to 0.1.  Run sudo update-grub afterwards to load the new setting.

VERBOSE EXPLANATION: The configuration file /etc/default/grub has a line which defines the timeout.  You will need to edit this file as root.  You can use vi edit if you are familiar with that, or use a gui editor such as Leafpad by opening a terminal and entering in the following commands:

cd /etc/default

sudo leafpad grub

Enter your root password, and the usual Leafpad interface will appear.  You will find a line there that should say

GRUB_TIMEOUT=10

That's the time you have to make a selection on the bootloader before it times out and selects the default.  Set this line to

GRUB_TIMEOUT=0.1

On some versions of Linux, you can set this to zero and disable the bootloader completely; Linux Mint 18 does not allow this.  You should find that a setting of 0.1 is so short that the menu is not even displayed.  It is almost as fast as removing the bootloader completely.  After you make this edit, save the file and exit Leafpad.

Next, you have to load the new setting.  Enter the following command into the terminal:

sudo update-grub

That should do it.  You can reboot and see if it works for you.

That makes sense. I will try this later tonight. Yes I chose standalone and it still asks me, I don't get it either. I'll follow those instructions and let you know this evening.

Thanks!!!

albrecht

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on November 20, 2016, 09:45:12 AM
No, Linux is not "infected" with MS.  If you run the version of Ubuntu that MS plans to layer on top of Win 10 that might be true.  But if you install it and run it in the usual fashion, it has nothing to do with MS.

There aren't really any legitimate anti-virus/malware programs out there for Linux, as they are not needed.  The explanation is a bit technical, but briefly stated, the Linux OS operates in a fundamentally different way from Windows.  Viruses and malware that can infect and live within Windows will not work within Linux.  That's one reason why Linux is such a popular choice with IT guys at the server level. 

Not sure which version of Mint you are on, but somewhere in the Menu there should be a program called Firewall Configuration (look under System for starters).  After you launch it, you need to unlock it using your root password.  Then you can configure it.  A quick, safe configuration is Status = ON, Incoming = Deny, Outgoing = Allow.  You may find that this interferes with certain functions (for example, your torrents that are downloading horse porn suddenly dry up).  In that case, you'll have to create a rule to allow that traffic past the firewall.  For the usage you describe, these settings should work.

Bleach Bit has a bad reputation within the Linux community and I recommend that you do NOT use it.  You can actually do more harm than good with it.

As far as residue, there is much more of it in Windows, and even things like CCleaner don't clear out all of it.  Linux is pretty efficient at keeping things tidy, but there will always be traces (thumbnails of your horse porn, for example).  The only sure way to avoid this is to install Mint (or some other live boot Linux distro) on a DVD and run it off of that.  You will be able to check email and watch your horse porn, but when you shut things down it all disappears.  Nothing is written to the DVD or to your hard drive, and all traces go up in smoke.  Alternatively, you could laboriously comb through your file system and manually remove traces, but even then you can't be sure.  Certain files which you can't directly see into may contain residue you would want to remove (the pagefile in Windows, for example).
Thanks for the info. No windows just straight install of Linux Mint on the old laptop after reformatting harddrive so I guess I'm ok. No whinny or neigh porn viewing but glad I'm secure, basically.

Element 115

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on November 20, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
You say that you have a standalone installation, yet you also say that the grub bootloader ask you if you want to boot into Windows.  So I don't understand that.

My suggestion is that you don't remove the bootloader, but instead minimize the timeout.  It's a simpler process and you can easily restore the bootloader if you want to use one of the options on it in the future.

FAST EXPLANATION:  Edit the file /etc/default/grub and change the parameter GRUB_TIMEOUT from 10 to 0.1.  Run sudo update-grub afterwards to load the new setting.

VERBOSE EXPLANATION: The configuration file /etc/default/grub has a line which defines the timeout.  You will need to edit this file as root.  You can use vi edit if you are familiar with that, or use a gui editor such as Leafpad by opening a terminal and entering in the following commands:

cd /etc/default

sudo leafpad grub

Enter your root password, and the usual Leafpad interface will appear.  You will find a line there that should say

GRUB_TIMEOUT=10

That's the time you have to make a selection on the bootloader before it times out and selects the default.  Set this line to

GRUB_TIMEOUT=0.1

On some versions of Linux, you can set this to zero and disable the bootloader completely; Linux Mint 18 does not allow this.  You should find that a setting of 0.1 is so short that the menu is not even displayed.  It is almost as fast as removing the bootloader completely.  After you make this edit, save the file and exit Leafpad.

Next, you have to load the new setting.  Enter the following command into the terminal:

sudo update-grub

That should do it.  You can reboot and see if it works for you.

All this worked great, however I never set a password for root so I had to set one and also Leafpad was not installed. I installed Leafpad and set root pw and this worked great!!

Thanks!!

analog kid

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on November 20, 2016, 09:23:53 AM
Wait a minute.  All Linux distros that I am aware of are "MS free."  MS is planning to put an image of Ubuntu on top of Win 10.  If you run Ubuntu in that way, I suspect that MS will have its greasy dick up your ass while you do so.  But if you run Ubuntu natively, then there is no cause for concern.

He might be talking about Ubuntu's Unity desktop, which is the same sort of paradigm as Windows 8's Metro, where the attempt was to marry a desktop with a touchscreen interface. A lot of people rejected both, and Unity caused a mass migration to Mint Cinnamon. I don't really like any of Ubuntu's desktop remixes. Mint seems a lot cleaner and lighter.

I made a Cinnamon / GTK3 theme, that's in Mint's theme repository. I won't say which one it is, for matters of anonymity.

So I bought a Dell Studio laptop at auction.  After scouring the hard drive for any nudie photos of the previous owner (jackpot!), I decide to do an image restore off of the recovery partition to (a) wipe out Windows 10 and replace it with Win 7, and (b) reset everything to factory defaults.

Except that I can't, because Windows 10 removes the ability to do this.  Pressing F8 no longer takes you to the Dell system recovery options screen, but instead takes you to some fucking POS installed and controlled by Win 10, which SPECIFICALLY excludes recovery partitions from your choices.

They wiped out all of the Dell startup features for the sake of blocking anyone from removing that fucking Windows 10 and replacing it with Win 7.  Perfectly legal, innocuous, and useful software functions bought and paid for from another company.

Fuck MS and fuck every choad-huffing douchebag that works there.  I mean you, the guy who works for MS who is reading this.  Fuck your family; fuck your values; fuck your kids; fuck your wife; fuck your pets; fuck your religion; fuck your school, and fuck your mother with a scabies-encrusted cactus.  FUCK.  YOU.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Real_Troll_60K on November 30, 2016, 01:31:06 PM
So I bought a Dell Studio laptop at auction.  After scouring the hard drive for any nudie photos of the previous owner (jackpot!), I decide to do an image restore off of the recovery partition to (a) wipe out Windows 10 and replace it with Win 7, and (b) reset everything to factory defaults.

Except that I can't, because Windows 10 removes the ability to do this.  Pressing F8 no longer takes you to the Dell startup and recovery screen, but instead takes you to some fucking POS installed and controlled by Win 10, which SPECIFICALLY excludes recovery partitions from your choices.

They wiped out all of the Dell startup features for the sake of blocking anyone from removing that fucking Windows 10 and replacing it with Win 7.  Perfectly legal, innocuous, and useful software functions bought and paid for from another company.

Fuck MS and fuck every choad-huffing douchebag that works there.  I mean you, the guy who works for MS who is reading this.  Fuck your family; fuck your values; fuck your kids; fuck your wife; fuck your pets; fuck your religion; fuck your school, and fuck your mother with a scabies-encrusted cactus.  FUCK.  YOU.

Anyone reading that would reasonably think you're not a fan of MS and specifically Win10.

norland2424

Quote from: Real_Troll_60K on November 30, 2016, 01:31:06 PM
So I bought a Dell Studio laptop at auction.  After scouring the hard drive for any nudie photos of the previous owner (jackpot!), I decide to do an image restore off of the recovery partition to (a) wipe out Windows 10 and replace it with Win 7, and (b) reset everything to factory defaults.

Except that I can't, because Windows 10 removes the ability to do this.  Pressing F8 no longer takes you to the Dell system recovery options screen, but instead takes you to some fucking POS installed and controlled by Win 10, which SPECIFICALLY excludes recovery partitions from your choices.

They wiped out all of the Dell startup features for the sake of blocking anyone from removing that fucking Windows 10 and replacing it with Win 7.  Perfectly legal, innocuous, and useful software functions bought and paid for from another company.

Fuck MS and fuck every choad-huffing douchebag that works there.  I mean you, the guy who works for MS who is reading this.  Fuck your family; fuck your values; fuck your kids; fuck your wife; fuck your pets; fuck your religion; fuck your school, and fuck your mother with a scabies-encrusted cactus.  FUCK.  YOU.

or you could just reformat the drive and clean install win7, not sure why anyone would wanna keep the extra dell bs, and i dont mean dell drivers

Quote from: norland2424 on November 30, 2016, 01:54:10 PM
or you could just reformat the drive and clean install win7, not sure why anyone would wanna keep the extra dell bs, and i dont mean dell drivers

Obviously.  But if you are going to resell it, having it in original factory configuration is a selling point.  "Like A Virgin" remember this is probably going to be bought by some chucklefuck who thinks Win10 is tits and has his Google Play anal dildo probe set to "Susana Melo."

More Win10 goodness.  ::)



(click the pic for the article)





starrmtn001

Quote from: /dev/null on December 08, 2016, 02:41:55 AM

How To Find If Someone Logged Into Your Windows PC At A Given Time?

https://fossbytes.com/how-to-find-logged-into-windows-pc-given-time-event-viewer/

Wow.  Thank you for this valuable link, dev.  A bit unnerving to say the least. :o


Ciardelo

FFS Jackstar! Stop messing up WC's desktop!  >:(


starrmtn001

Quote from: Techno-Mancer on January 02, 2017, 08:01:35 PM
What it really means...

LOL!  Thank you, Techno-Mancer.  I am so glad I kept Windows 7. ;) ;D

Lilith

Quote from: Techno-Mancer on December 05, 2016, 02:08:45 AM
Here's the link.  https://fossbytes.com/just-pressing-shiftf10-windows-10-update-makes-pc-super-easy-hack/

It's present in Windows 7 and 8 as well. It says such right in the article. Home versions don't have BitLocker anyway.

Being a sewergabber, I should probably add, that I'm not in the habit of pressing shift10 while windows updates are happening.  Dummy me.  I should have known I was supposed to....

Quote from: brig on January 02, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
It's present in Windows 7 and 8 as well. It says such right in the article. Home versions don't have BitLocker anyway.

Being a sewergabber, I should probably add, that I'm not in the habit of pressing shift10 while windows updates are happening.  Dummy me.  I should have known I was supposed to....
;)

Quote from: Σ> on October 07, 2015, 12:03:25 PM
completely remove onedrive from your windows 10 machine by running this file:

ufoship.com/onedrive.bat

run it as administrator.

latest update of windows 10 on my desktops installed onedrive again. your bat file still works fine. woohoo!
now all they have to do is fix windows defender. putting a notification on the icon just cuz i didn't and won't turn on sampling and cloud services.
other than that, all seems okie dokie.

as a side note, my laptop is still able to block any windows 10 updating and i likes that....

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Evil Twin Of Zen on April 16, 2017, 11:44:47 PM
latest update of windows 10 on my desktops installed onedrive again. your bat file still works fine. woohoo!
now all they have to do is fix windows defender. putting a notification on the icon just cuz i didn't and won't turn on sampling and cloud services.
other than that, all seems okie dokie.

as a side note, my laptop is still able to block any windows 10 updating and i likes that....

btw, the onedrive app can now be uninstalled from the regular programs and features inside control panel, or through the new apps and features.  the batch file hasn't been necessary for uninstalling onedrive in a few months.  there was an update somewhere along the way to fix that.

MV/Liberace!

btw, just a reminder for you people concerned about MS "spying" on users... install spybot anti beacon.

https://download.spybot.info/AntiBeacon/SpybotAntiBeacon-1.6-setup.exe

even if you're not concerned about MS "spying" on users, you should install it for good measure.  it works in all versions of windows.

Element 115

Quote from: Σ> on April 17, 2017, 03:17:33 AM
btw, just a reminder for you people concerned about MS "spying" on users... install spybot anti beacon.

https://download.spybot.info/AntiBeacon/SpybotAntiBeacon-1.6-setup.exe

even if you're not concerned about MS "spying" on users, you should install it for good measure.  it works in all versions of windows.

Good call MV, been using this since it's inception. Glad you like it and recommend it.

Quote from: Σ> on April 17, 2017, 03:17:33 AM
btw, just a reminder for you people concerned about MS "spying" on users... install spybot anti beacon.

https://download.spybot.info/AntiBeacon/SpybotAntiBeacon-1.6-setup.exe

even if you're not concerned about MS "spying" on users, you should install it for good measure.  it works in all versions of windows.

i want MS, FBI, CIA, NSA, and Cheaper Than Dirt tracking me. that way they can say i was on the radar if something happens.

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