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Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 27, 2020, 10:31:20 AM
Anyone hearing about accusations of dead from the virus being turned into Corona burgers?

How do you think essential oils are made.

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 24, 2020, 05:10:28 PM
Extinguisher vs Flaming Gas Hose guy.  Gas Hose guy needs to cough up some yuan next time to get a solid stream flowing.

https://twitter.com/blue500000/status/1264580791922683906

Before I click, how many die in this one?

Quote from: albrecht on May 23, 2020, 07:50:15 PM
It already has been here and it wasn't quite as fun playing masked bandito but the bandana was useful in wiping off the brow. I'm just wondering how the "tracing teams" and various gov't operatives are going to properly be able to "scan" one's temperature once Summer really hits! Will those guns, temp strips, and infrared cams still work? Or are we going to get into an ugly Whitley Streiber alien type of probing situation with those big old, style thermometers? Not a good scenario.

The other day I had to go to the dentist. They took my temperature with one of those paper strips on the forehead.

They told me I was registering a little warm.

I told them I had been laying out in the sun all morning and sitting in my car for 15 minutes in their parking lot because they aren’t allowing patients to enter until their appointment time.

“Oh. OK.”

This is the same dentist that I had to ask her to please wear a mask before she came near me a month ago.

Quote from: pate on May 22, 2020, 10:35:43 PM
This Memorial weekend I find myself wondering the difference between "god & man'" and "'nam & dog"

-p

Ask oJoJ

Quote from: albrecht on May 22, 2020, 05:42:47 PM
I'm not sure throwing around terms like "nuclear option" by the media is wise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-mulls-nuclear-option-as-china-threatens-hong-kong-autonomy/ar-BB14tckE

https://www.dw.com/en/chinas-proposed-security-law-a-death-sentence-for-hong-kong/a-53532639

I laughed when I heard Dan Crenshaw ask how long the press was going to turn a blind eye to the Flynn case.

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 22, 2020, 05:15:07 PM
UAH drops hockey due the Corona-Chan financial woes. Think this will be a thing for collegiate sports.


https://www.al.com/sports/2020/05/uah-cancels-ice-hockey-tennis-citing-coronavirus.html

Both fans will be devastated.

Quote from: albrecht on May 21, 2020, 05:02:56 PM
What he should be tweeting about is why a country with the largest proven reserves would need to import oil?

Maybe their own refineries can’t handle the poor quality of their own oil.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-oil-insight-idUSKBN1CN2EO

Quote from: ItsOver on May 21, 2020, 07:14:03 AM
Fucking CDC.  The same bureaucratic outfit that also originally discouraged masks and now is encouraging home brew masks.  One big fail for not having made sure there was a large stockpile of proper PPE and/or plans in place for a ramp up of rapid production.  What good are advance pandemic warnings, simulations, models, studies over the decades, etc. WITHOUT realistic means to address a pandemic when it does eventually hit.  Of course, it's always easier to play around in the ivory tower then actually fucking do something.  Your guberment at work.  And people wonder why there's survivalists.

The CDC caved to the powerful, yet infrequently discussed, Cauliflower Ear Lobby. 

Quote from: Roswells, Art on May 19, 2020, 03:53:17 PM
O.K. I fixed it.

I'm also going with the second definition of fishwife. Yes, I googled it.

Get back outside and finish cutting bait.

Found a Kolby Replacement Unit

https://twitter.com/realkgstevens1/status/1262133024390385664

https://twitter.com/realkgstevens1/status/1261464396250836994

https://twitter.com/realkgstevens1/status/1262133024390385664

https://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/news/with-video-snowbird-jet-crashes-into-kamloops-house-1.24136744

The pilot survived but was injured after landing on a house. The female public affairs was officer riding along was killed. RIP Capt Jennifer Casey.

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 17, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
That sucks. One fatality and one serious injured.

https://twitter.com/supermario_47/status/1262101139966750720

Shows both aircrew ejecting but apparently one died.

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 17, 2020, 07:23:32 PM
Snowbird crashed.  Terrible. 

https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1262100681546137605

That sucks. One fatality and one serious injured.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1262062669605015552

https://twitter.com/klara_sjo/status/1261357447777640449

Quote from: WOTR on May 15, 2020, 04:47:31 AM
Yes. Better to cower in your basement like our prime minister Justine. Of course, somebody is eventually going to have to take a risk and go to work to continue to pay for his salary. I suppose I should be thankful it is me.

Yes, it is infectious. But aside from praying for a vaccine or taking your chances, what are the options? I'm sorry, but the death rate is low, and from the start I have been able to do the math. Statistically, I am likely to make it through fine. Or course, I may drop dead as well if I get it- but I may also die in a wreck on the way to work or drop dead of a heart attack from eating McDonalds. There are risks to everything. Most of us weigh them and then order a big mac.

Now if I were 80 years old, obese with diabetes I would probably lock myself in my house and refuse to leave. But demanding that the world be locked down for the next 1-15 years (depending on when / if they get a vaccine and how quickly this mutates) just is not  an option that I'm willing to go for.

Before you go thinking that I'm just a reckless jackass, let me give you a chart from your very own BBC. Your chances of dying from the disease are almost the same as your chances of dying form all other causes combined this year (and that includes all the obese half dead walking time bombs with preexisting conditions. Most healthy people will be fine.) Yes, I'm willing to double my chances of death by contracting the damn disease just to be done with it.*



*I realize there is no guarantee of immunity, but statistics say that you likely are with only a very small percent getting a second infection. And the jury is out on how long it lasts. And while most experts believe that a second bout when any possible immunity wears off would be less severe, that remains unknown at this time.

Being an essential worker is noble and people should be proud of their role.  Most are. Until they learn the are feedstock dor the Essential Oil industry.

Quote from: albrecht on May 14, 2020, 04:34:25 PM
Why does it appear that everything from Black Death, Corona-Chan, to Rabbit Hemorrhagic Fever seem to come from China?
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2020/05/14/hemorrhagic-rabbit-disease-found-in-california-for-1st-time/ 

"This virus was first reported in China in 1984"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_hemorrhagic_disease

Apparently this is only a concern to rabbits and animals who prey on them for their diet.

"report sightings of sick or dead rabbits but be careful to not handle carcasses to minimize spread of the virus, which is described as very hardy. Hunters are urged to take precautions as well."

How many seals have been broken?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/rare-blue-dragons-washed-texas-130700948.html

A doctor in the next town over used it successfully in a nursing home with zinc
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/texas-city-nursing-home-doctor-explains-using-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-patients/ar-BB12k1qL

Quote from: albrecht on May 10, 2020, 09:35:56 PM

Any links, name, or archives of the show with callers of Polish working class bigots and racists in upstate NY?  THAT sounds like fun radio. Seriously. As an aiside upsate NY, Maine, etc seems always a decade (at least) behind. Like a timewarp for haircuts, clothing, etc.


Besides Bruce, Art, Hendrie, Rush, and few national- the local AMs are best. I even liked those swap-meet style shows in rural areas. Like craigslist on the radio.

I don’t know about radio, but I started listening to “Marty on the mountain” weather reports on one of the few TV channels we got at Plattsburgh AFB in the 70’s.

https://youtu.be/-j_2W6GYMvc

Quote from: WOTR on May 10, 2020, 02:04:28 AM
Thank goodness CNN reminded me to ignore my mother tomorrow. I would not want to risk her life by having lunch or dinner with her. After all, there were people who all got sick by attending a birthday party in California. Seems like a good reason to never see anybody ever again (aside from at the Home Depot, the grocery store, the Pizza shop and Costco where I get to wait in line with perfect strangers...)

"In Pasadena, California, officials put out a warning after tracing a cluster of cases back to a birthday party, and in Louisiana the department of health recommended celebration alternatives -- like virtual brunch.

"Resist the temptation to hug your mom and maintain six feet of separation," the Louisiana Department of Public Health said. "

It is also worth noting that Fauci will be doing a modified quarantine. "While Fauci was not in close proximity to the person, he said he will spend the next two weeks working from home and wearing a mask, adding he may go to his office, where he will be alone." I suppose that if I am exposed that my quarantine will allow me to go to my office as well?

This shit is getting old.

I remember the good old days when we would all gather around and sing while someone blew out the fire on top of a cake. Pagan tradition.

Quote from: whoozit on May 09, 2020, 12:49:29 PM
I suspect any American will be able to buy their own personal ventilator for $59.99 soon.  So many companies getting ready to pump these babies out and no real demand.

I found it humorous that Ford volunteered to build them but it took GM some prodding with the DPA. And then GM delivered their first unit the day before the contract was signed with Ford to produce theirs.

Quote from: ItsOver on May 09, 2020, 12:21:10 PM
"They found only a slightly lower transmission risk, about a 1.7 per cent reduction per 1 degree Fahrenheit, once temperatures rose above 77 degrees F. "

That would work out to around a 1/3 reduction in a large chunk of my Texas wilderness area by Summer, just based on the lovely, roasting heat, alone, at it's finest during the day.  Throw in the oppressive humidity and blinding UV and Corona Chan should be begging for mercy.

I would really appreciate it if you would stop sending these cold fronts down south. It was nice and Covidkiller weather until last night.

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 08, 2020, 03:07:27 PM
Wonder what the tug delivered?


https://twitter.com/WarshipCam/status/1258845520925253634

Hrydoxy?

Quote from: Hog on May 08, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
Submarines are the ultimate death machines. Any country that has the ability to operate nuclear powered submarines, let alone having 3 Ohio class SSGN Guided Missile Submarine conversion subs surface at the same time is a pretty freaking good "show of force" without expending a single munition. That country is certainly a "SUPERPOWER" in every sense of the term.  I personally am proud to be in alliance with a force like that.
Peak-a-boo, I see you(and could slam 73 tons of explosives up your ass in short order)
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-did-us-navy-surface-3-submarines-same-time-asia-114731



The 4 SSBN(Ballistic Missile Submarine) to SSGN(Guided Missile Submarine) conversions took place because of strategic arms reduction treaties that limited the number of deployed SLBM(Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile) tubes the US Navy could carry. So they converted 4 Ohip class subs from Ballistic missile to Guided missile attack subs.  That reduced the total SLBM force by 96 tubes. But each of those former SLBM tubes was now a home for 7 vertically launched guided missiles.  The remaining Trident II SLBMs have had their MIRV(Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicle) warheads reduced from the 8 they used to carry. from the previous SSBN designation of 4 of the conversions, surface simultaneously at three distinct points of the Earth each with 145 USS Michigan that puts a 1,000 pound High Explosive warhead directly upon or inside a window size target 1000 miles away.  What's that roughly 73 tons of ordnance from one sub.

“In July 2010, three SSGNs surfaced nearly simultaneously in Western Pacific and Indian Ocean waters, allegedly to signal U.S. displeasure over Chinese missile tests in the East China Sea.”

Major missile tests are potentially provocative and destabilizing. America’s intent in the aftermath of the Chinese tests was to signal U.S. strength with just the right amount and kind of potential force.

"USS Michigan in Pusan, South Korea, the USS Ohio in Subic Bay, in The Philippines and the USS Florida in the strategic Indian Ocean outpost of Diego Garcia not only reflects the trend of escalating submarine activity in East Asia, but carries another threat as well"

"In November 2011, Lt. Britta Christianson became the first female officer, and first female overall, to qualify for service on a US Navy submarine, being assigned to Ohio's Gold Crew. (The first female enlisted sailor qualified in August 2016, assigned to sister boat, Michigan"

I found it disturbing to learn that there was a US boomer that launched in early 2020 with 2 of her SLBM tubes loaded with a Trident-II missile which is standard, but that these 2 missiles had a new super low yield warhead.  So in essence a SLBM launched tactical nuke.  IMO The smaller the warhead, the more apt it is to be used. But how does an adversary know if the incoming missiles are armed with the 475 kiloton strategic nuke or the smaller tactical nuke with say a 10 kiloton TNT equivalent?  FYI The nukes used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were sized
75 years ago, this happened.
Hiroshima 16 kilotons



For decades this image was commonly misidentified as the mushroom cloud of the Little Boy bomb that formed circa 8:15 local time. However due to its greater height and the wholly different time of day, it is the firestorm cloud*/the pyrocumulus cloud that occurs routinely over all firestorms. A Pyrocumulonimbus cloud(PyroCb) is another superior, although not widely accepted, meteorological classification.  It peaked 3 hours after detonation


Nagasaki-Fatman bomb exploded with the force equivalent to 21 thousand tins of TNT exploding=21 kilotons


Although many fires likewise burnt following the bombing, in contrast to Hiroshima where sufficient fuel density was available, no firestorm developed in Nagasaki as the damaged areas did not furnish enough fuel to generate the phenomenon. Instead, the ambient wind at the time pushed the fire spread along the valley.




But the small SLBM warhead is worrying.

The most powerful US atomic weapon is the B03 gavity bomb with a yield of 1.2 megatons or 75 times more powerful than the  Hiroshima bomb.  the B-2 stealth bomber can carry 16 B-83's on dual 8 bomb rotary launchers.

peace?
Hog

We have stocked variable yield nukes ever since at least the 1970’s.  I’m not familiar with the detailed design but we used to call them dial-a-yield on the bombs and SRAMs on the FB-111A swing wing bombers. The same weapons were used on the B-1 while they were nuclear capable. SRAMs were replaced by the ACLM.

Some of them could be dialed quite low. Obviously none were ever detonated.

I don’t think we stock any nuclear artillery shells like we used to maintain along the Iron curtain.  I believe those were like 1kt.

I spent the first 4 years at Plattsburgh AFB certifying the aircrews for their alert sorties, but the last 4 years were at HQ/SAC where we picked all the targets and assigned all the nuclear weapons for all of the bomber, ICBMs and SLBMs for what was called the Single Integrated Operational Plan (SIOP). When Reagan got elected we may have been tasked with developing Limited Nuclear Options (LNO). If such plans had been developed the analysts would have certainly been tasked with designing such an attack as to make it clear to an adversary that it was indeed a limited yet lethal attack.

After 8 years of working on stuff I hoped would never get used, I got out to work on the space program where I could actually see the results of my work get used.

Quote from: serenity on May 07, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
Nothing yet I'll give it a few. Thanks

Check your junk mail. I sent one too

WTF?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/06/coronavirus-survivors-banned-from-joining-the-military/

Quote from: Stupid Robbings on May 05, 2020, 06:43:12 PM
In 1988 I was working as a consultant at Specialty Labs in Santa Monica, setting up analytic routines for the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). I knew a lot about setting up analytic routines for anything with nucleic acids in it because I had invented the Polymerase Chain Reaction. That's why they had hired me.

Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), on the other hand, was something I did not know a lot about. Thus, when I found myself writing a report on our progress and goals for the project, sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, I recognized that I did not know the scientific reference to support a statement I had just written: "HIV is the probable cause of AIDS."

So I turned to the virologist at the next desk, a reliable and competent fellow, and asked him for the reference. He said I didn't need one. I disagreed. While it's true that certain scientific discov eries or techniques are so well established that their sources are no longer referenced in the contemporary literature, that didn't seem to be the case with the HIV/AIDS connection. It was totally remarkable to me that the individual who had discovered the cause of a deadly and as-yet-uncured disease would not be con tinually referenced in the scientific papers until that disease was cured and forgotten. But as I would soon learn, the name of that individual - who would surely be Nobel material - was on the tip of no one's tongue.

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/kmforeword.htm

So you died last August?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 02, 2020, 05:54:58 PM
Meanwhile, I went out back to my beloved alley to bend the elbow a little bit.  It was rife with illegal pickleball matches - along with people sitting out in lawn chairs enjoying the gorgeous weather, drinking themselves and I think maybe even gambling on the damn pickleball matches. Then there even guys out playing catch - I was hailed and offered a chance to join them but resisted and followed my Governor's and Thorogood's wishes by retreating into the garage and drinking alone.

https://www.breitbart.com/local/2020/05/02/michigan-pilot-gives-an-f-u-flyover-to-democrat-gov-whitmer-over-coronavirus-lockdown/

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 02, 2020, 11:29:10 AM
^ I like VDH and of course I am sympathetic but (as I think I observed a while ago) simply using the number of people with antibodies as your total number of cases to generate a lower death rate can only be compared with the flu if you take a similar approach, actually testing for flu antibodies rather than counting just people reported sick with the flu.  We don't do anywhere near this kind of testing with the flu to find the number of people who were exposed and fought it off and just got a sniffle or nothing at all so it's apples and oranges.

That said, I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong on this point.

The numbers reported for the flu are not based on positive test results. It’s a very complex model and is only an estimate.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm