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Asuka Langley

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 30, 2018, 01:55:07 PM
You're not a pilot either. Stop acting like you are. ::) ;D

Pud isn't American either... he has NOGUNZ KEK!







Kidnostad3

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 01:34:19 PM
Do your homework. Or read my posts to 30octavefart.  The jobs were saved. The plant was supposed to close and lose 2100 jobs. Trump said he saved 1000 jobs.  People got laid off. Plant is still open with 1100 people employed. And Carrier paid back some previous tax breaks to the city. Major fail if you ask me.

Pud don’t need no stinkin’ facts.  They just get in the way. 



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 30, 2018, 02:03:28 PM
Pud don’t need no stinkin’ facts.  They just get in the way.

Did 550 people recently get sacked from Carrier? Yes or no?

http://fox59.com/2018/01/11/carrier-workers-activists-slam-trump-for-broken-promises/

At rallies and on Twitter, President Trump once claimed there was a 100 percent chance he could save more than a thousand jobs.

Union leaders say fewer than 800 remain, with 215 people clocking out today for the last time.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/359545-carrier-plans-more-layoffs-at-plant-trump-struck-deal-with-report


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:22:01 PM
Did 550 people recently get sacked from Carrier? Yes or no?

http://fox59.com/2018/01/11/carrier-workers-activists-slam-trump-for-broken-promises/

At rallies and on Twitter, President Trump once claimed there was a 100 percent chance he could save more than a thousand jobs.

Union leaders say fewer than 800 remain, with 215 people clocking out today for the last time.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/359545-carrier-plans-more-layoffs-at-plant-trump-struck-deal-with-report

So sad, really...I mean you, not the people at Carrier. It's just sad to watch a man lose his mind online. Well, it's entertaining too...but sad. :( ;D

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:22:01 PM
Did 550 people recently get sacked from Carrier? Yes or no?

http://fox59.com/2018/01/11/carrier-workers-activists-slam-trump-for-broken-promises/

At rallies and on Twitter, President Trump once claimed there was a 100 percent chance he could save more than a thousand jobs.

Union leaders say fewer than 800 remain, with 215 people clocking out today for the last time.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/359545-carrier-plans-more-layoffs-at-plant-trump-struck-deal-with-report

The 800 number is union jobs if you go back and read the original article I posted. Here are two more.

Original claim -1100 jobs
https://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/call-6-carrier-to-receive-7m-tax-break-to-keep-jobs-in-indianapolis

Article from Jan 10 - “leaving 1100 jobs at the plant”
http://www.kotaradio.com/2018/01/10/new-layoffs-at-indiana-carrier-factory-year-after-trump-deal/


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 30, 2018, 02:27:10 PM
So sad, really...I mean you, not the people at Carrier. It's just sad to watch a man lose his mind online. Well, it's entertaining too...but sad. :( ;D

Eh? I'm pointing out that Trump lies...all the time. But you're a paid up member of his cult so you're excused; Brainwashing is a mental illness. You. Can't. Help. it.

albrecht

More bad news caused by Trump and the Republicans dastardly tax reform and cuts and evil pro-business environment:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/exxon-mobil-to-invest-50-billion-in-us-over-5-years-citing-tax-reform.html

Fake news:
German public broadcaster boosted the volumes of the few boos during Trump's recent Davos speech.
https://www.stern.de/kultur/tv/-tagesschau--verstaerkte-buh-rufe-fuer-donald-trump-7840646.html
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PaulAtreides

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 30, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
Sure, now you tell me after I’ve already lost day room privileges.

Nurse Ratched will see you now.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 02:31:46 PM
The 800 number is union jobs if you go back and read the original article I posted. Here are two more.

Original claim -1100 jobs
https://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/call-6-carrier-to-receive-7m-tax-break-to-keep-jobs-in-indianapolis

Article from Jan 10 - “leaving 1100 jobs at the plant”
http://www.kotaradio.com/2018/01/10/new-layoffs-at-indiana-carrier-factory-year-after-trump-deal/

Those 1100 won't be 1100 for long. Why would they be? Because if they were going to expand at that site, they wouldn't have sacked so many.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Those 1100 won't be 1100 for long. Why would they be? Because if they were going to expand at that site, they wouldn't have sacked so many.

You are so fucking brainwashed by CNN

Read this and see if you can find both 800 and 1100. They saved 800 union jobs and 1100 overall.

http://www.ksdk.com/mobile/article/news/nation-now/indiana-carrier-plant-to-lay-off-215-workers-on-thursday/465-f1e9033e-991e-4e4d-a701-462d25f70337

Asuka Langley

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 30, 2018, 02:27:10 PM
So sad, really...I mean you, not the people at Carrier. It's just sad to watch a man lose his mind online. Well, it's entertaining too...but sad. :( ;D

I agree... Give them a call pud


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on January 30, 2018, 02:33:54 PM

Fake news:
German public broadcaster boosted the volumes of the few boos during Trump's recent Davos speech.


And on the same day, journalists in the Philippines were arrested and in some cases imprisoned for reporting on Trump's lover Duterte. Because he doesn't like free speech either.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Those 1100 won't be 1100 for long. Why would they be? Because if they were going to expand at that site, they wouldn't have sacked so many.

But when Hillary Clinton created 10 jobs in Buffalo NY by outsourcing hundreds or thousands to India, it was proclaimed as a win.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/30/nation/na-buffalo30

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 02:36:45 PM
You are so fucking brainwashed by CNN

Read this and see if you can find both 800 and 1100. They saved 800 union jobs and 1100 overall.

http://www.ksdk.com/mobile/article/news/nation-now/indiana-carrier-plant-to-lay-off-215-workers-on-thursday/465-f1e9033e-991e-4e4d-a701-462d25f70337


Do you think that the plant will have more or fewer employees in twelve months from now?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 02:40:17 PM
But when Hillary Clinton created 10 jobs in Buffalo NY by outsourcing hundreds or thousands to India, it was proclaimed as a win.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/30/nation/na-buffalo30

It's never a win for the home country, but Clinton didn't invent outsourcing...You know Trump and his daughter do it too don't you?

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:40:50 PM

Do you think that the plant will have more or fewer employees in twelve months from now?
More than 0 thes than 2100.

But when Hillary Clinton created 10 jobs in Buffalo NY by outsourcing hundreds or thousands to India, it was proclaimed as a win.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/30/nation/na-buffalo30

We are not a communist system where staffing levels are set by the state. I don’t know what binding agreements Carrier entered into, and neither do you. But for now it sure seens like they are sticking to that original agreement.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:42:05 PM
It's never a win for the home country, but Clinton didn't invent outsourcing...You know Trump and his daughter do it too don't you?

No. Trump and his daughter have not moved any jobs overseas.  And they don’t call themselves “the Senator from Punjab” either.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 02:43:52 PM
More than 0 thes than 2100.

But when Hillary Clinton created 10 jobs in Buffalo NY by outsourcing hundreds or thousands to India, it was proclaimed as a win.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/30/nation/na-buffalo30

We are not a communist system where staffing levels are set by the state. I don’t know what binding agreements Carrier entered into, and neither do you. But for now it sure seens like they are sticking to that original agreement.

Nothing to do with setting staffing levels by the state. It's economics. The firm cannot afford to pay US wages with the level of staff it used to have and keep it's balance sheet solvent.. That isn't Carrier, that's every firm. But Carrier (like others) will not employ Americans in American based firms if they can do it cheaper and just as well abroad. Coupled with increasing automation, the employment levels will only go one way in high paying skilled manufacturing jobs.


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
No. Trump and his daughter have not moved any jobs overseas.  And they don’t call themselves “the Senator from Punjab” either.

Correct..The jobs never originated in the US in the first place! Do you think Ivanka might bring the sweatshop jobs her products are made by in Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia might come to the US?

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:48:43 PM
Nothing to do with setting staffing levels by the state. It's economics. The firm cannot afford to pay US wages with the level of staff it used to have and keep it's balance sheet solvent.. That isn't Carrier, that's every firm. But Carrier (like others) will not employ Americans in American based firms if they can do it cheaper and just as well abroad. Coupled with increasing automation, the employment levels will only go one way in high paying skilled manufacturing jobs.

It is 1100 more jobs than Obama saved there, and he could have made the same call. But didn’t.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 30, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
BTW - Clinton promised 200,000. She “created” 10.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-senator-clinton-promised-200000-jobs-in-upstate-new-york-her-efforts-fell-flat/2016/08/07/339d3384-58d2-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

And? She isn't POTUS. And never will be.. Do we assume if the unemployment levels in skilled jobs go up in Trump's tenure, it will be Trump's responsibility?

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 30, 2018, 02:50:51 PM
Correct..The jobs never originated in the US in the first place! Do you think Ivanka might bring the sweatshop jobs her products are made by in Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia might come to the US?

Quit your fucking obfuscation and deflection. You were absolutely wrong about the Carrier jobs situation. Now please write letters to MSNBC and CNN and ask them to report the facts.

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