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Is Hurricane Maria Going To Try To Knock Irma Out Of First Place?

Started by starrmtn001, September 18, 2017, 12:19:58 AM




Hog

She's a Category 3 now.

The Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale is a 1 to 5 rating based on a hurricane's sustained wind speed. This scale estimates potential property damage. Hurricanes reaching Category 3 and higher are considered major hurricanes because of their potential for significant loss of life and damage. Category 1 and 2 storms are still dangerous, however, and require preventative measures. In the western North Pacific, the term "super typhoon" is used for tropical cyclones with sustained winds exceeding 150 mph.


Category-Sustained Winds-Types of Damage Due to Hurricane Winds
1- 74-95 mph 64-82 kt 119-153 km/h Very dangerous winds will produce some damage: Well-constructed frame homes could have damage to roof, shingles, vinyl siding and gutters. Large branches of trees will snap and shallowly rooted trees may be toppled. Extensive damage to power lines and poles likely will result in power outages that could last a few to several days.

2- 96-110 mph 83-95 kt 154-177 km/h Extremely dangerous winds will cause extensive damage: Well-constructed frame homes could sustain major roof and siding damage. Many shallowly rooted trees will be snapped or uprooted and block numerous roads. Near-total power loss is expected with outages that could last from several days to weeks.

3- (major) 111-129 mph 96-112 kt178-208 km/h Devastating damage will occur: Well-built framed homes may incur major damage or removal of roof decking and gable ends. Many trees will be snapped or uprooted, blocking numerous roads. Electricity and water will be unavailable for several days to weeks after the storm passes.

4-(major) 130-156 mph 113-136 kt 209-251 km/h Catastrophic damage will occur: Well-built framed homes can sustain severe damage with loss of most of the roof structure and/or some exterior walls. Most trees will be snapped or uprooted and power poles downed. Fallen trees and power poles will isolate residential areas. Power outages will last weeks to possibly months. Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks or months.

5- (major) 157 mph or higher 137 kt or higher252 km/h or higher Catastrophic damage will occur: A high percentage of framed homes will be destroyed, with total roof failure and wall collapse. Fallen trees and power poles will isolate residential areas. Power outages will last for weeks to possibly months. Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks or months.

peace
Hog

 

Hog

In reference to the title of this thread.  Irma was the strongest major hurricane of 2017 with a minimum pressure of 914 hectopascals hPa/91.4 kilopascals (27 inches of Mercury) o 13.3psi..
To put that into perspective, the pressure in the eye of Irma when it was its lowest was equivalent to change in air pressure one would experience at an altitude of just under 3000 feet at STP.
At Sea Level at STP the normal barometric pressure is 1013 hectopascals(hPa) or 101.3 kilopascals(kPa) or 1013 milibar 14.7 psi(pounds per square inch).

Currently Maria is exerting a pressure of 956 mb(millibar) or 956 hPa or 95.6 kPa or 13.87 psi.

At the summit of Mount Everest(29,029f) the baro pressure is approx.(actually calculated for 30,000ft)
30.1kPa/301hPa/301mb or 4.36 psi or 8.9psi


peace
Hog

starrmtn001

Quote from: Hog on September 18, 2017, 01:38:46 PM
In reference to the title of this thread.  Irma was the strongest major hurricane of 2017 with a minimum pressure of 914 hectopascals hPa/91.4 kilopascals (27 inches of Mercury) o 13.3psi..
To put that into perspective, the pressure in the eye of Irma when it was its lowest was equivalent to change in air pressure one would experience at an altitude of just under 3000 feet at STP.
At Sea Level at STP the normal barometric pressure is 1013 hectopascals(hPa) or 101.3 kilopascals(kPa) or 1013 milibar 14.7 psi(pounds per square inch).

Currently Maria is exerting a pressure of 956 mb(millibar) or 956 hPa or 95.6 kPa or 13.87 psi.

At the summit of Mount Everest(29,029f) the baro pressure is approx.(actually calculated for 30,000ft)
30.1kPa/301hPa/301mb or 4.36 psi or 8.9psi


peace
Hog

Cool Beans, Hog! ;D   I bet you're a meteorologist.  Aren't you? ;)

Hog

Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 18, 2017, 01:50:25 PM
Cool Beans, Hog! ;D   I bet you're a meteorologist.  Aren't you? ;)
No Star, I'm not a meteorologist, I work in medicine. I just did some conversions as some units make more sense than some of the others.

The last line of my above post should read "4.36 inches of Mercury or 8.8psi" not "4.36 psi or 8.8psi".

Maria is now a raging Cat-4 hurricane. With a pressure of 950 millibars(mb).,

peace
Hog

Maria is also taking a more northerly course than Irma.   Might be us Carolina folks' turn this time.......

Hopefully not.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 18, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Maria is also taking a more northerly course than Irma.   Might us Carolina folks' turn this time.......

Hopefully not.


It'll wipe out a few islands before hitting the mainland..  :-\

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 18, 2017, 06:08:47 PM

It'll wipe out a few islands before hitting the mainland..  :-\

Well let's see.   Forecaster
Brown says it looks like:

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Guadeloupe
* Dominica
* St. Kitts, c, and Montserrat
* U.S. Virgin Islands
* British Virgin Islands
* Puerto Rico, Culebra, and Vieques

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Antigua and Barbuda
* Saba and St. Eustatius
* St. Maarten
* Anguilla
* St. Lucia
* Martinique

I'm wondering if Antigua/Barbuda are regretting casting off from the UK?   Don't know if they'll receive more
or less help as an independent - they surely need all the assistance they can get.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 18, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
Well let's see.   Forecaster
Brown says it looks like:

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Guadeloupe
* Dominica
* St. Kitts, c, and Montserrat
* U.S. Virgin Islands
* British Virgin Islands
* Puerto Rico, Culebra, and Vieques

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Antigua and Barbuda
* Saba and St. Eustatius
* St. Maarten
* Anguilla
* St. Lucia
* Martinique

I'm wondering if Antigua/Barbuda are regretting casting off from the UK?   Don't know if they'll receive more
or less help as an independent - they surely need all the assistance they can get.


They're in the Commonwealth, so still British protectorates.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 18, 2017, 06:21:17 PM

They're in the Commonwealth, so still British protectorates.

Not sure how that works....  So the UK would try and aid them as much as like a Montserrat or a Bermuda? 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 18, 2017, 06:25:14 PM
Not sure how that works....  So the UK would try and aid them as much as like a Montserrat or a Bermuda?

Theoretically...But with current government anything is possible. The navy are usually not far away and if its a replenishment ship, usually have engineers and marines on board. But there's only so much several hundred can do when the hurricane has wiped everything out..Its going to be terrible.

starrmtn001

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:'(    Prayers for everyone in harm's way.

starrmtn001

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Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 18, 2017, 06:36:39 PM
Theoretically...But with current government anything is possible.


How about you shove your keyboard up your own cunt ass, you mouthy fuck? Is that possible??


Lord Grantham

Quote from: Jackstar on September 19, 2017, 12:18:28 AM

How about you shove your keyboard up your own cunt ass, you mouthy fuck? Is that possible??

Going 0 to 100 real quick.

Gd5150

 Good thing we have a president who is not afraid to take on this Obama climate and derail it.  We can only imagine how bad things would've been under Clinton if she had stayed on course with Obama climate disruption.

It's a shame Trump had to inherit the Obama climate and deal with all these issues. Consider what Bush left Obama to deal with, no hurricanes in 12 years.

Fortunately the people of this country know how to stand together to handle these Obama hurricanes and make America great again.



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gd5150 on September 20, 2017, 09:35:09 AM
Good thing we have a president who is not afraid to take on this Obama climate and derail it.  We can only imagine how bad things would've been under Clinton if she had stayed on course with Obama climate disruption.

It's a shame Trump had to inherit the Obama climate and deal with all these issues. Consider what Bush left Obama to deal with, no hurricanes in 12 years.

Fortunately the people of this country know how to stand together to handle these Obama hurricanes and make America great again.



How do you manage on a day to day basis being so stupid? I'm keen to know.


Up All Night

Maria has knocked out much of the power in PR.

The forecasted highs for the next week are 90F and the lows 79F.

Misery for those there.  :(

Jackstar

[...] the immediate appointment of a federal judge to decide how to deal with a staggering $123 billion debt the commonwealth government and its public corporations owe to both bondholders and public employee pension systems. [...] The old commonwealth is effectively dead. Absent a huge infusion of U.S. public dollars to prop up its collapsing economy, a scenario that is nearly impossible with a Drumpf White House and a Republican-controlled Congress, that relationship cannot be revived. Political leaders in both Washington and San Juan, whether they like it or not, are being propelled to fashion a new political and economic status for the territory. They will have to finally decide whether to completely annex Puerto Rico as the 51st state or acknowledge that it still remains a distinct nation, with the right to its own sovereignty and independence.


Puerto Rico's power grid was already in bad shape even before the 2017 hurricane season. PREPA's power plants are 44 years old on average, reports Reuters â€" in contrast with the industry-wide average of 18 years. The company, which filed for bankruptcy in July, called its own system "degraded and unsafe," saying in a fiscal plan released this April that "years of under-investment have led to severe degradation of infrastructure," according to Reuters. According to Vox, PREPA also faces a manpower shortage that, even before this hurricane season, was already impeding its day-to-day maintenance. The general economic situation is also grim. Puerto Rico's finances have been in dire straits for years. The island has yet to emerge from a decade-long recession, and unemployment stands at 11%. Its government entered a process similar to bankruptcy protection in May in a bid to restructure its debt load, currently in excess of $70 billion.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xic5LfFNVc

starrmtn001

Live: HURRICANE MARIA Tracking CAT 5 160 MPH UPDATES 24/7 Heading Florida, New York WARNING.


https://youtu.be/Acap3IrCYYk

Puerto Rico's existing massive, unpayable debt is just one reason countries, states, local governments, etc should not be borowing money for current consumption, and digging themselves into a huge debt hole.

Will Puetro Rico be able to borrow billions more to rebuild?  I sure hope the US isn't going to bail them out.  Food and medicine, and whatever else FEMA-type agencies do short term, then they're on their own.


The US obtained PR, along with Cuba, The Phillipines, and Guam from Spain after defeating them in the Spanish-American war.  In the modern world, is PR still a strategic asset?  Do we still need to control it to protect the Gulf of Mexico.  Making them the 51st state is out of the question, is it time to cut them loose?

GravitySucks

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on September 21, 2017, 02:25:08 PM
Puerto Rico's existing massive, unpayable debt is just one reason countries, states, local governments, etc should not be borowing money for current consumption, and digging themselves into a huge debt hole.

Will Puetro Rico be able to borrow billions more to rebuild?  I sure hope the US isn't going to bail them out.  Food and medicine, and whatever else FEMA-type agencies do short term, then they're on their own.


The US obtained PR, along with Cuba, The Phillipines, and Guam from Spain after defeating them in the Spanish-American war.  In the modern world, is PR still a strategic asset?  Do we still need to control it to protect the Gulf of Mexico.  Making them the 51st state is out of the question, is it time to cut them loose?

My idea in February was for Trump to sell it to Russia.  Not sure what it is worth now.

Up All Night

Quote from: Jackstar on September 21, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
[...] the immediate appointment of a federal judge to decide how to deal with a staggering $123 billion debt the commonwealth government and its public corporations owe to both bondholders and public employee pension systems. [...] The old commonwealth is effectively dead. Absent a huge infusion of U.S. public dollars to prop up its collapsing economy, a scenario that is nearly impossible with a Drumpf White House and a Republican-controlled Congress, that relationship cannot be revived. Political leaders in both Washington and San Juan, whether they like it or not, are being propelled to fashion a new political and economic status for the territory. They will have to finally decide whether to completely annex Puerto Rico as the 51st state or acknowledge that it still remains a distinct nation, with the right to its own sovereignty and independence.


Puerto Rico's power grid was already in bad shape even before the 2017 hurricane season. PREPA's power plants are 44 years old on average, reports Reuters â€" in contrast with the industry-wide average of 18 years. The company, which filed for bankruptcy in July, called its own system "degraded and unsafe," saying in a fiscal plan released this April that "years of under-investment have led to severe degradation of infrastructure," according to Reuters. According to Vox, PREPA also faces a manpower shortage that, even before this hurricane season, was already impeding its day-to-day maintenance. The general economic situation is also grim. Puerto Rico's finances have been in dire straits for years. The island has yet to emerge from a decade-long recession, and unemployment stands at 11%. Its government entered a process similar to bankruptcy protection in May in a bid to restructure its debt load, currently in excess of $70 billion.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xic5LfFNVc

PR citizens working and living in PR pay no US Federal Income Tax... Is this correct ??

3 Million in PR correct ???

Deport most of them to the US, and leave the rest to work in the New Pleasure Island operated by who knows....

starrmtn001

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https://youtu.be/F-9uhlW6zd0


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