President Donald J. Trump

[Dr. MD MD]

Discussion is fuckin' over! aldousburbank set this motherfucker on it's ass with extreme prejudice!

LOL! Agreed! 

[GravitySucks]

So you think the Democratic governor is lying?  It goes both ways and like I said we don't have Star Trek transporters or even a waiting fleet(our navy is scattered all over the world) to get supplies to Puerto Rico.  I wish the best for the people of Puerto Rico and I hope they get help soon but I'm sorry you've been screaming about Trump since Day 1 and I can't help but think that you just want to nail Trump for anything bad that comes along.

Puerto Rico is an island of about 3.4 million people. Basically everything they need on a daily basis is brought in by ship. There is an unending supply line of ships from various ports in a constate state of resupply for the island. Some of the ships were waiting offshore when the hurricane hit. Others were enroute and still others were held back in port. This is why there was no need to waive the Jones Act. A flotilla of ships was already packed up with the normal supply chain of goods for Puerto Rico. Sure they might have needed more water and less paper towels on the 21st, but the fact is the supply line is intact up to the island. The problem is coordinating things on the ground. Distribution and restoration of basic services.  That is just going to take time. You can't rewire and replumb the entire island in one day. There is no place like the Superdome that was spared during the storm where you can take and gather that many people.

Even if you evacuated the island, how long does it take to move 3.4 million people at 3,000 per criise ship, what do you do when they don't want to leave, and where do you take them when nearly every island and Florida has been impacted as well?

[21st Century Man]

Puerto Rico is an island of about 3.4 million people. Basically everything they need on a daily basis is brought in by ship. There is an unending supply line of ships from various ports in a constate state of resupply for the island. Some of the ships were waiting offshore when the hurricane hit. Others were enroute and still others were held back in port. This is why there was no need to waive the Jones Act. A flotilla of ships was already packed up with the normal supply chain of goods for Puerto Rico. Sure they might have needed more water and less paper towels on the 21st, but the fact is the supply line is intact up to the island. The problem is coordinating things on the ground. Distribution and restoration of basic services.  That is just going to take time. You can't rewire and replumb the entire island in one day. There is no place like the Superdome that was spared during the storm where you can take and gather that many people.

Even if you evacuated the island, how long does it take to move 3.4 million people at 3,000 per criise ship, what do you do when they don't want to leave, and where do you take them when nearly every island and Florida has been impacted as well?

I guess they go to New York like they did back in the 50's.  Yeah, you're right about the supply line but I was thinking of building supplies like wood, metal and concrete and food/water which I have no doubt is scarce after the onslaught of the hurricane.  I saw where a cruise ship delivered a load of goods but it is going to take a lot of cruise ships and carriers etc to get the needed supplies in.

[GravitySucks]

I guess they go to New York like they did back in the 50's.  Yeah, you're right about the supply line but I was thinking of building supplies like wood, metal and concrete and food/water which I have no doubt is scarce after the onslaught of the hurricane.  I saw where a cruise ship delivered a load of goods but it is going to take a lot of cruise ships and carriers and such to get the needed supplies in,

With the exception of sand and gravel, every other type of building supply was already imported, including the cement needed to make concrete.

It will be a long, slow road to recovery and will probably involve a lot of military troops establishing places the wingnuts will call FEMA camps. What better place to gather and deal with all of those brown people?  Right?  That is why they gave the hurricane a hispanic name. This was all a FEMA plan to punish the PR people for incurring all of that debt.

[21st Century Man]

With the exception of sand and gravel, every other type of building supply was already imported, including the cement needed to make concrete.

It will be a long, slow road to recovery and will probably involve a lot of military troops establishing places the wingnuts will call FEMA camps. What better place to gather and deal with all of those brown people?  Right?  That is why they gave the hurricane a hispanic name. This was all a FEMA plan to punish the PR people for incurring all of that debt.

LOL,  I'm sure Jackstar has something to say about that.   I know they have some of the building supplies but probably not nearly enough to rebuild all the destroyed buildings and fix the damaged ones.  I'm no expert though and I'll assume you know more about it than I do. 

[GravitySucks]

LOL,  I'm sure Jackstar has something to say about that.   I know they have some of the building supplies but probably not nearly enough to rebuild all the destroyed buildings and fix the damaged ones.  I'm no expert though and I'll assume you know more about it than I do.

If you could evacuate everyone to a safer location, it would take over 1100 cruise ships. Assuming you could locate, lease, staff and load 2 whole cruise ships per day, that would take over a year working 7 days per week. Just the women and children?  Well, that would only take about a year.

That is the scale of the problem.

[Kidnostad3]

With the exception of sand and gravel, every other type of building supply was already imported, including the cement needed to make concrete.

It will be a long, slow road to recovery and will probably involve a lot of military troops establishing places the wingnuts will call FEMA camps. What better place to gather and deal with all of those brown people?  Right?  That is why they gave the hurricane a hispanic name. This was all a FEMA plan to punish the PR people for incurring all of that debt.

There's no use trying to describe PR's situation in terms of it's baseline fiscal state, physical location,  neglected infrastructure, and the magnitude of destruction after being hit by two hurricanes to those who are bent on finding fault with the Administration. It matters not that that the Administration has effectively dealt with two major hurricanes, with the expenditure of human effort and resources that that involved, but now that an unprecedented third disaster has occurred Trump is to blame for relief supplies stacking up in ports because roads are impassable and truckers aren't showing up. Despite the fact that there is something north of 10,000 federal personnel on the ground trying to restore basic services, the leftist propagandist are insisting that people are suffering because Trump hates brown people and is preoccupied with NFL knee-takers. Leftist, anti-American race baters are scum and deserve to be reviled and scorned by every true American. 

[Yorkshire pud]

There's no use trying to describe PR's situation in terms of it's baseline fiscal state, physical location,  neglected infrastructure, and the magnitude of destruction after being hit by two hurricanes to those who are bent on finding fault with the Administration. It matters not that that the Administration has effectively dealt with two major hurricanes, with the expenditure of human effort and resources that that involved, but now that an unprecedented third disaster has occurred Trump is to blame for relief supplies stacking up in ports because roads are impassable and truckers aren't showing up. Despite the fact that there is something north of 10,000 federal personnel on the ground trying to restore basic services, the leftist propagandist are insisting that people are suffering because Trump hates brown people and is preoccupied with NFL knee-takers. Leftist, anti-American race baters are scum and deserve to be reviled and scorned by every true American.

Hey, Trump has another golfing weekend, the bloke has been really working hard tremendously. He said so. It isn't a 'leftist' thing. Its common human decency. And he isn't a decent human. If he'd put as much effort into the hurricane relief has he did in playing to his gallery over the NFL he'd have a point. But he hasn't.

I'm sure, no certain, that if it had been a Dem POTUS who shot off to play golf while say Long Island had been laid waste by a hurricane and all he or she was worried about was how wonderful he thought he was viewed you would be apoplectic. And rightly so.

[Dr. MD MD]

Hey, Trump has another golfing weekend, the bloke has been really working hard tremendously. He said so. It isn't a 'leftist' thing. Its common human decency. And he isn't a decent human. If he'd put as much effort into the hurricane relief has he did in playing to his gallery over the NFL he'd have a point. But he hasn't.

I'm sure, no certain, that if it had been a Dem POTUS who shot off to play golf while say Long Island had been laid waste by a hurricane and all he or she was worried about was how wonderful he thought he was viewed you would be apoplectic. And rightly so.

Someone please check me on this but didn't Obama do just that, play golf after a hurricane? 

[Kidnostad3]

Someone please check me on this but didn't Obama do just that, play golf after a hurricane? 

He sure did.  It was posted here recently.  I was in the process of looking for it but why bother--Pud has stage 4 rectal-cranial inversion.  He ignored it once and he'll ignore again.  Obama went to play golf immediately after giving a news conference on a beheading and we still haven't got an accounting of his whereabouts and lack of response when Americans were being slaughtered in Benghazi. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Someone please check me on this but didn't Obama do just that, play golf after a hurricane? 

And how did you feel about that? I think it was idiotic.

[Dr. MD MD]

And how did you feel about that? I think it was idiotic.

Two part question:

1. Do you ever tire of shaming others?
2. Do you yourself ever feel shame for being that way?

I'll take my answers off the air, thanks. 

[Lt.Uhura]

Well, well, well. I see today's Friday firing is Dr. Price, with Trump acting shocked at his using taxpayer (my) money to pay for his posh private jet trips. I call bullshit! Trump set the stage for this sense of entitlement and blatant abuse of power with his family running up tabs in the millions for world-wide travel (and nearly bankrupting the SS!)...Multiple golfing vacations, $ki trip$, the boys flying over to the ME to promote their own personal businesses...WTF?! I want a full accounting of all expenses charged to taxpayers (me) by his cabinet members and the entire Trump family. Pronto! Taxpayers (I) won't stand for this!

[PB the Deplorable]

... (I) won't stand for this!

Really?  What are you going to do?

[Lt.Uhura]

Really?  What are you going to do?

Fire his ass. He forgets he works for the taxpayers (me), not the other way around.

[PB the Deplorable]

Fire his ass. He forgets he works for the taxpayers (me), not the other way around.

Well shit, why didn't you do that long ago instead of all this angst?

[Dr. MD MD]

Well, well, well. I see today's Friday firing is Dr. Price, with Trump acting shocked at his using taxpayer (my) money to pay for his posh private jet trips. I call bullshit! Trump set the stage for this sense of entitlement and blatant abuse of power with his family running up tabs in the millions for world-wide travel (and nearly bankrupting the SS!)...Multiple golfing vacations, $ki trip$, the boys flying over to the ME to promote their own personal businesses...WTF?! I want a full accounting of all expenses charged to taxpayers (me) by his cabinet members and the entire Trump family. Pronto! Taxpayers (I) won't stand for this!

Go fuck yourself! You're obviously in desperate need.  :

[Lt.Uhura]

Well shit, why didn't you do that long ago instead of all this angst?

21st and other seemingly reasonable folks wanted to "give him a chance." Ok, chance given.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_NKinzdPw

[GravitySucks]

Fire his ass. He forgets he works for the taxpayers (me), not the other way around.

Did you raise hell when Pelosi was commandeering AF jets to fly home evey weekend?  Just curious.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-new-documents-detailing-pelosis-use-air-force-aircraft/

[Dr. MD MD]

21st and other seemingly reasonable folks wanted to "give him a chance." Ok, chance given.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_NKinzdPw

He can suck a big NFL sized dick!  :

[Lt.Uhura]

Did you raise hell when Pelosi was commandeering AF jets to fly home evey weekend?  Just curious.

One example? You're a smart guy GS, add it up. Even a perfunctory look shows the Trump administration taxpayer expenses has exceeded that of previous administrations, especially after a mere 9 months. But if you are ok with it and want to keep apologizing for his and his greedy entitled swamp dwellers' abuses, go ahead and bend over.

[GravitySucks]

One example? You're a smart guy GS, add it up. Even a perfunctory look shows the Trump administration taxpayer expenses has exceeded that of previous administrations, especially after a mere 9 months. But if you are ok with it and want to keep apologizing for his and his greedy entitled swamp dwellers' abuses, go ahead and bend over.

I am one of the few people on this forum that keeps beating the drum for a 30% reduction across the board and smaller federal government.

Trump's sons get SS protection because a threat analysis was performed and the SS perceived a threat to his entire family. That is peanuts compared to the $750million PER DAY that Obama added to the national debt.

Be consistent is all I ask. I spoke out against Price.

Do you give Devos credit for using her own private plane at her own expense?  I do.

p.S. Part of the problem with the SS budget is the fact that we have 5 ex presidents that they are tasked tonprotect. I know Bush 41 and Bush 43 don't travel often. Carter used to travel quite a bit, but he may have released his detail recently. I guarantee that the Clintons and Obamas are doing their best to run up their frequent flyer miles. 

Maybe if you are charging $500 k for a speech, you should pay for your SS detail when you take that trip.

[Lt.Uhura]

What makes Trump's flagrant abuse of taxpayer money even worse is that he's double-dipping. In addition to his administration flaunting their wealth on the taxpayers' dime, his own buisnesses have raked in millions thanks to his POTUS gig. The presidency is a cash cow for him and his family. So even if the emoluments are technically not breaking any laws, how do Trump's "profits" look to the debt-ridden, out of work coal miner who voted for him? His snake oil act will only go so far until folks catch on they're being had, early clues being the healthcare debacle, which threatened to take care away from those who need it the most: poor, low-income, rural America--Trump's base.

http://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-is-running-america-like-its-a-casino/

[GravitySucks]

What makes Trump's flagrant abuse of taxpayer money even worse is that he's double-dipping. In addition to his administration flaunting their wealth on the taxpayers' dime, his own buisnesses have raked in millions thanks to his POTUS gig. The presidency is a cash cow for him and his family. So even if the emoluments are technically not breaking any laws, how do Trump's "profits" look to the debt-ridden, out of work coal miner who voted for him? His snake oil act will only go so far until folks catch on they're being had, early clues being the healthcare debacle, which takes care away from those who need it the most: poor, low-income, rural America--Trump's base.

http://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-is-running-america-like-its-a-casino/

I am pretty sure his businesses are doing less business, not more. He used to be the darling of the left. Not any longer. When he goes to Mar Lago, it is basically shut off from other club members.

It is true he raised the rates at Mar Lago. Raised them to what they used to be before he had to drop them due to the economy down there.

I wish he wouldn't travel so much. I understood the first few weeks because of the transition getting Obama and his staff out and renovating after 8 years.

It is still a drop in the bucket, but to me the optics are wrong.

You never hear the press comment on the fact that he is donating his $400k salary.

[Lt.Uhura]

I am pretty sure his businesses are doing less business, not more. He used to be the darling of the left. Not any longer. When he goes to Mar Lago, it is basically shut off from other club members.

It is true he raised the rates at Mar Lago. Raised them to what they used to be before he had to drop them due to the economy down there.

I wish he wouldn't travel so much. I understood the first few weeks because of the transition getting Obama and his staff out and renovating after 8 years.

It is still a drop in the bucket, but to me the optics are wrong.

Indeed the "optics are wrong", in fact they are glaring. In Trumpworld, lowering his Mar A Lago fees from $200,000 to $100,000 (for the "economy"), then back to $200,000 on Jan.1, 2017 might be considered a hardship for those wannabe members who are short the extra $100,000, but for the out of work coal miner, it must look like a parallel universe. I don't believe the division of wealth has ever been so great between Americans. Right now Donald Trump is widening that divide, both financially and philosophically.

[Swishypants]

Micheal Obama flew her cut-off wearing, Target shopping, black-skin, stinky white soul and palm having, family into Washington D.C. every weekend for 8 years! When the Obama's traveled they took both 747's and 8 F-15's. Tell me again about cost! Obama's secret service detail was DOUBLE what any previous or present President's is! There is no comparison! The Kenyan was far more expensive!

[Dr. MD MD]

Micheal Obama flew her cut-off wearing, Target shopping, black-skin, stinky white soul and palm having, family into Washington D.C. every weekend for 8 years! When the Obama's traveled they took both 747's and 8 F-15's. Tell me again about cost! Obama's secret service detail was DOUBLE what any previous or present President's is! There is no comparison! The Kenyan was far more expensive!

She doesn't accept any criticism but only tries to work on people she thinks are "smart" enough to get her. 

[PB the Deplorable]

... Be consistent is all I ask...

These people ARE consistent. 

They support anyone in favor of Big Government, and oppose anyone who suggests it's not always the answer to everything.  It's never about whatever current issue they are hysterical about.  That's why they actually support the same and worse from their Big Government heroes. 

It really is that simple - it's how they (the Democrats, the media, academia, Hollywood, the bureaucracy, their fascist hate groups like Antifa) decide who to attack and who to hate.  It's why they denounce our country, our form of government, our economic system, our Constitution, our history, and anyone who doesn't agree wth them.  That's all in the way of what they ultimately want.

Look at the NFL, infiltrated by BLM activists - whose only thought is to denounce the flag and the National Anthem in full view of the American people.  That was their goal - and to keep it going - not some bullshit about ''thuh police'', then ''social justice'', and now ''unity''. 

It's all connected.  Globalism plays a role here as well.  Without Big Government getting bigger, Globalist infrastructure can't be built and expanded.  Trump isn't even a Conservative, but he is an American that believes in the basic American ideals.  So of course they hate him and attack his every comment and action.  It's what they are told to do by the Media and the rest.

[Swishypants]

She doesn't accept any criticism but only tries to work on people she thinks are "smart" enough to get her. 

No possibility of an easy kill? Even the weird white palm and soul of feet on some black people thing doesn't work? Really? Ok. Thanks man.

Errata: That's really weird and even science can't figure it out btw!

[Swishypants]

soul of feet.