President Donald J. Trump

[PB the Deplorable]

Why didn’t Ginsberg recuse herself? After her comments about Trump, the candidate, she has no business deciding any cases related to him.

You know only the Rs are supposed to recuse themselves.  The Democrats are the Party of Government - it belongs to them and everything they do is for ''social progress'', so they get a free pass.  Same reason everything the Rs do is to be politicized and criminalized, but any criminal activity or things done for purely political reasons by the Ds are to be ignored and covered up.

Obama was just in France, giving speeches and met with the French President regarding golbal warming.  Imagine the fake uproar if Trump had done that a week before he was inaugurated.

[Lt.Uhura]

Let's review Mueller's directive...

Pay special attention to (b) ii, iii, and especially (c):

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the special counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

[PB the Deplorable]

Keep pretending to be naive in service of your narrative.  :

I notice you don't actually respond to what I've posted, but come back with pointless clichés.  Same as MV. 

No wonder Trump appeals to you

[21st Century Man]

Let's review Mueller's directive...

Pay special attention to (b) ii, iii, and especially (c):

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the special counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

That is like saying everything is open season when that was not the reason he was appointed.  What about the obstruction of justice Hillary engaged in when her man, Strzok with the FBI,  was in charge of investigating the emails?    As a matter of fact since you brought it up, we found that out as a result of Mueller's investigation so why isn't the pressure on Clinton now?  Shouldn't Obama be arrested since he is talking to foreign leaders now? Or is it simply a one way street and Democrats get a pass? 

These investigations need to be done with caution or every time there is a President and the opposing party controls Congress, there will be an investigation into the President perhaps winding up in impeachment.  That would not be good for our country.  In that case, we would have relegated ourselves to banana republic status.

[albrecht]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zANvYB93u2g

Ha, that guy plays a great banjo, by the way!

[Lt.Uhura]

.........Hillary...........Obama.......

.....are irrelevant. It's the current (Trump) administration that's under investigation. Pay attention.

[albrecht]

FYI ~

Stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality’

...Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions...

Of course, none of this excuses the apparent cover-up, which is often as bad as the original crime. Lying to the federal government in your registration forms or your security application is a false statement. Using the wires to perpetrate your crime is often wire fraud. In short, let’s stop talking about “collusion” and instead talk about real crimes...

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366

Why would they all lie if there were no crimes, nothing to hide?

You seem like a decent guy, 21st. If you were part of a legal investigation, would you lie--under oath?

...I didn't think so :-)

I don't think the FBI or government is all bad. BUT the agency who detailed the sexual shenanigans, etc of MLK Jr and investigated a lot of stuff on "subversives" has a weird style of operation. My main complaint, let's ignore, for now, the recent history of the FBI lab problems (MANY,) but that, even in this modern age, they rely on FD-302s and won't record or film interviews. So, almost always, it comes down to a "he said, she said" with a suspect versus two agents. What a nice way to get a 18 U.S. Code § 1001, at minimum, even just by a interviewee (you don't need to be under oath to break 18 U.S. Code § 1001- unless you are a Clinton) who isn't even aware of what questioning means. (Hint: always get a lawyer ANY time you are questioned by a government official in any agency or capacity. And review ANY documents you submit to any agency- guess what, your attorney or accountant is not, barring serious issues, going to be accountable if they file documents or tax-filings for you that they government disputes.)

[PB the Deplorable]

.....are irrelevant. It's the current (Trump) administration that's under investigation. Pay attention.

Actually, the way previous administration officials, including presidents, were treated by the media and by the legal process are very relevant.  We aren't supposed to have two sets of laws, one to apply to those favored by the media, and a different set applied to those they don't like.  I would have thought you understood the concept of equality under the law.

Why is the Trump transition team ''breaking the law'' when it meets with foreign officials, but any previous administration official or Congressman can do so at any time without anyone even questioning it?  And have been doing so since the country was formed.  No one is supposed to point this out?

The media doesn't get to decide that when the Ds are in office and take certain actions, that prosecutions of Rs in the past for the same actions are ''irrelevant'' and give them a pass.  They don't get to decide that actions taken by Rs currently in office are ''crimes'', while stating previous Demcrat administrations doing the same or similiar with no questions asked or penalties applied are ''irrelevant''. 

Politicizing and criminalizing normal activity is right out of the Marxist playbook.  It's what every Left-wing dictatorship in history has done.  Stalin perfected it.  The ''Progressives'' are proving they are who we say they are every day. 

[Lt.Uhura]

..
The media doesn't get to decide that when the Ds are in office and take certain actions, that prosecutions of Rs in the past for the same actions are ''irrelevant'' and give them a pass.  They don't get to decide that actions taken by Rs currently in office are ''crimes'', while stating previous Demcrat administrations doing the same or similiar with no questions asked or penalties applied are ''irrelevant''....

I find it amusing that you consider Trump a Republican and pretty much base all your posts on that silly notion. Historical figures who exemplified the Republican Party and contributed to our country's successes must be spinning in their graves at the spectacle of Donald Trump as a Republican POTUS.

Because he ran via the GOP, you wrongly assumed Trump would represent your conservative Republican paradigm, and you're obviously dissapointed he hasn't done that.

Look at Trump's history as a difficult, shady, narcissistic, self-aggrandizing businessman. It shouldn't surprise anyone paying attention that his administration (family and cronies) is under investigation. Did you really think, at age 69, he would suddenly rise to become a selfless civil servant, a man of conservative principles who would tirelessly work with other Republicans to make America great again? HAHAHA!!

[paladin1991]

Okay, let’s imagine that the worse case for Trump plays out and he resigns or is impeached and Pence takes over.  Pence is purer the Caeser’s wife and if he even comes close to carrying out the platform that he and Trump ran on he will be unbeatable in 2020.  Think about it lefties.  No more behavior issues and orange hair to bitch about.  Be careful what you wish for.  I can see a big upside here.

This argument was made some time ago and there was no counter argument.  In fact, I think that may have been the plan all along.  Trump kicks in the door, he and Pence take the hill, Trump exits somewhere in the next 2-3 years leaving Pence to finish the Trump term.  Then Pence runs and claims the Presidency for the next 8 years.


Winning! 

[paladin1991]

Comey just came out on Twitter and quoted Tori Amos

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[paladin1991]

Has anyone noticed that there has been a resumption of fairly civil discourse herein over the last 2-3 days.  I wonder if the fact that Swishy Pants hasn’t posted has anything to do with it.

https://youtu.be/gHTj6IDcJ-U

[paladin1991]

Criminal lawyer ... ?
Real Estate lawyer ... ?
Mining Law lawyer ... ?
Other ... ?

Care to elaborate ... ?

Ambulance chaser.  Maybe one of those assholes who allows zombie creditors to harass poor working class folks using his letterhead.

[paladin1991]

No shit?  Is that Duchovny?  I’ve woken up with worse looking women.

Don't ask, don't tell.   

[PB the Deplorable]

I find it amusing that you consider Trump a Republican and pretty much base all your posts on that silly notion. Historical figures who exemplified the Republican Party and contributed to our country's successes must be spinning in their graves at the spectacle of Donald Trump as a Republican POTUS.

Because he ran via the GOP, you wrongly assumed Trump would represent your conservative Republican paradigm, and you're obviously dissapointed he hasn't done that.

Look at Trump's history as a difficult, shady, narcissistic, self-aggrandizing businessman. It shouldn't surprise anyone paying attention that his administration (family and cronies) is under investigation. Did you really think, at age 69, he would suddenly rise to become a selfless civil servant, a man of conservative principles who would tirelessly work with other Republicans to make America great again? HAHAHA!!

Your post has zero to do with what I posted about your Marxists trying to politicize and criminalize anything anyone else is doing, while pretending they should be immune from scrutiny and prosecution.  But I understand because you really have no good response to my post. 

Another thing you don't quite seem to get despite being told repeatedly is the Republicans aren't a conservative party.  They never have been.  Much of the base is.  Some individual members and office holders are.  Others claim to be during their campaigns and when they return to their districts.  Sometimes one of the conservatives even wins the presidency.  You think they are the conservative party because a) the Establishment falsely claims to be from time to time, and b) the dishonest Left tries to demonize them by insisting they are far to the right.  It's a way of brushing off the fact that they are the true extremists, while claiming to be centrists.

I don't like Trump, the person.  Never have.  I don't like the way he's conducted himself in office so far.  But you know what?  He ran on Tea Party policies, and for the most part has stuck with them.  I'm frustrated he hasn't gotten more accomplished, and that for the most part that's due to him getting in his own way. 

You think he's some master criminal, and is spends his time self dealing?  Prove it.  Where is there any evidence of that?  At all?  He's been under tremendous scrutiny for over a year now and... nothing.  Yet to you he's some mobster and threat to the republic, and anyone pointing out, say, Obama's actual specific felonies we can point to, and intentional destruction of the country is told ''that's irrelevant''. 

[=Schlyder=]

Your post has zero to do with what I posted about your Marxists trying to politicize and criminalize anything anyone else is doing, while pretending they should be immune from scrutiny and prosecution.  But I understand because you really have no good response to my post. 

Another thing you don't quite seem to get despite being told repeatedly is the Republicans aren't a conservative party.  They never have been.  Much of the base is.  Some individual members and office holders are.  Others claim to be during their campaigns and when they return to their districts.  Sometimes one of the conservatives even wins the presidency.  You think they are the conservative party because a) the Establishment falsely claims to be from time to time, and b) the dishonest Left tries to demonize them by insisting they are far to the right.  It's a way of brushing off the fact that they are the true extremists, while claiming to be centrists.

I don't like Trump, the person.  Never have.  I don't like the way he's conducted himself in office so far.  But you know what?  He ran on Tea Party policies, and for the most part has stuck with them.  I'm frustrated he hasn't gotten more accomplished, and that for the most part that's due to him getting in his own way. 

You think he's some master criminal, and is spends his time self dealing?  Prove it.  Where is there any evidence of that?  At all?  He's been under tremendous scrutiny for over a year now and... nothing.  Yet to you he's some mobster and threat to the republic, and anyone pointing out, say, Obama's actual specific felonies we can point to, and intentional destruction of the country is told ''that's irrelevant''.

expected reply.... " Druuuuuuuuuumph,  Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

[PaulAtreides]

You probably lie 3 times before breakfast everyday of your life. 

Move to strike.  The witness is (as usual) non responsive.

[ACE of CLUBS]

Historical figures who exemplified the Republican Party and contributed to our country's successes must be spinning in their graves at the spectacle of Donald Trump as a Republican POTUS.

Look at Trump's history as a difficult, shady, narcissistic, self-aggrandizing businessman. It shouldn't surprise anyone paying attention that his administration (family and cronies) is under investigation. Did you really think, at age 69, he would suddenly rise to become a selfless civil servant, a man of conservative principles who would tirelessly work with other Republicans to make America great again?

Nailed it  ^^^
Trump the psychopath ....

[Gd5150]

Historical figures who exemplified the Republican Party and contributed to our country's successes

Oh? Tell us about all those Republicans you hold on such high regard and why.

[21st Century Man]

Mueller's investigation is obviously tainted and he should step down.  This investigation has devolved into a witch-hunt.

Mueller’s Credibility Problem
The special counsel is stonewalling Congress and protecting the FBI.

....The Washington Post and the New York Times reported Saturday that a lead FBI investigator on the Mueller probe, Peter Strzok, was demoted this summer after it was discovered he’d sent anti- Trump texts to a mistress. As troubling, Mr. Mueller and the Justice Department kept this information from House investigators, despite Intelligence Committee subpoenas that would have exposed those texts. They also refused to answer questions about Mr. Strzok’s dismissal and refused to make him available for an interview.

The news about Mr. Strzok leaked only when the Justice Department concluded it couldn’t hold out any longer, and the stories were full of spin that praised Mr. Mueller for acting “swiftly” to remove the agent. Only after these stories ran did Justice agree on Saturday to make Mr. Strzok available to the House.

This is all the more notable because Mr. Strzok was a chief lieutenant to former FBI Director James Comey and played a lead role investigating alleged coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Mr. Mueller then gave him a top role in his special-counsel probe. And before all this Mr. Strzok led the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and sat in on the interview she gave to the FBI shortly before Mr. Comey publicly exonerated her in violation of Justice Department practice.

Oh, and the woman with whom he supposedly exchanged anti-Trump texts, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, worked for both Mr. Mueller and deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, who was accused of a conflict of interest in the Clinton probe when it came out that Clinton allies had donated to the political campaign of Mr. McCabe’s wife. The texts haven’t been publicly released, but it’s fair to assume their anti-Trump bias must be clear for Mr. Mueller to reassign such a senior agent.

There is no justification for withholding all of this from Congress, which is also investigating Russian influence and has constitutional oversight authority. Justice and the FBI have continued to defy legal subpoenas for documents pertaining to both surveillance warrants and the infamous Steele dossier that was financed by the Clinton campaign and relied on anonymous Russian sources.....

.....While there is no evidence so far of Trump-Russia collusion, House investigators have turned up enough material to suggest that anti-Trump motives may have driven Mr. Comey’s FBI investigation.....

........All of this reinforces our doubts about Mr. Mueller’s ability to conduct a fair and credible probe of the FBI’s considerable part in the Russia-Trump drama. Mr. Mueller ran the bureau for 12 years and is fast friends with Mr. Comey, whose firing by Mr. Trump triggered his appointment as special counsel. The reluctance to cooperate with a congressional inquiry compounds doubts related to this clear conflict of interest.....

.......The latest news supports our view that Mr. Mueller is too conflicted to investigate the FBI and should step down in favor of someone more credible. The investigation would surely continue, though perhaps with someone who doesn’t think his job includes protecting the FBI and Mr. Comey from answering questions about their role in the 2016 election.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-credibility-problem-1512432318

[ItsOver]

Mueller's investigation is obviously tainted and he should step down.  This investigation has devolved into a witch-hunt.

Mueller’s Credibility Problem
The special counsel is stonewalling Congress and protecting the FBI.

....The Washington Post and the New York Times reported Saturday that a lead FBI investigator on the Mueller probe, Peter Strzok, was demoted this summer after it was discovered he’d sent anti- Trump texts to a mistress. As troubling, Mr. Mueller and the Justice Department kept this information from House investigators, despite Intelligence Committee subpoenas that would have exposed those texts. They also refused to answer questions about Mr. Strzok’s dismissal and refused to make him available for an interview.

The news about Mr. Strzok leaked only when the Justice Department concluded it couldn’t hold out any longer, and the stories were full of spin that praised Mr. Mueller for acting “swiftly” to remove the agent. Only after these stories ran did Justice agree on Saturday to make Mr. Strzok available to the House.

This is all the more notable because Mr. Strzok was a chief lieutenant to former FBI Director James Comey and played a lead role investigating alleged coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Mr. Mueller then gave him a top role in his special-counsel probe. And before all this Mr. Strzok led the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and sat in on the interview she gave to the FBI shortly before Mr. Comey publicly exonerated her in violation of Justice Department practice.

Oh, and the woman with whom he supposedly exchanged anti-Trump texts, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, worked for both Mr. Mueller and deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, who was accused of a conflict of interest in the Clinton probe when it came out that Clinton allies had donated to the political campaign of Mr. McCabe’s wife. The texts haven’t been publicly released, but it’s fair to assume their anti-Trump bias must be clear for Mr. Mueller to reassign such a senior agent.

There is no justification for withholding all of this from Congress, which is also investigating Russian influence and has constitutional oversight authority. Justice and the FBI have continued to defy legal subpoenas for documents pertaining to both surveillance warrants and the infamous Steele dossier that was financed by the Clinton campaign and relied on anonymous Russian sources.....

.....While there is no evidence so far of Trump-Russia collusion, House investigators have turned up enough material to suggest that anti-Trump motives may have driven Mr. Comey’s FBI investigation.....

........All of this reinforces our doubts about Mr. Mueller’s ability to conduct a fair and credible probe of the FBI’s considerable part in the Russia-Trump drama. Mr. Mueller ran the bureau for 12 years and is fast friends with Mr. Comey, whose firing by Mr. Trump triggered his appointment as special counsel. The reluctance to cooperate with a congressional inquiry compounds doubts related to this clear conflict of interest.....

.......The latest news supports our view that Mr. Mueller is too conflicted to investigate the FBI and should step down in favor of someone more credible. The investigation would surely continue, though perhaps with someone who doesn’t think his job includes protecting the FBI and Mr. Comey from answering questions about their role in the 2016 election.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-credibility-problem-1512432318

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  #DrainTheSwampTheCesspool

[Gd5150]

Mueller's investigation is obviously tainted and he should step down.  This investigation has always been devolved into a witch-hunt.

Mueller’s Credibility Problem
The special counsel is stonewalling Congress and protecting the FBI.

....The Washington Post and the New York Times reported Saturday that a lead FBI investigator on the Mueller probe, Peter Strzok, was demoted this summer after it was discovered he’d sent anti- Trump texts to a mistress. As troubling, Mr. Mueller and the Justice Department kept this information from House investigators, despite Intelligence Committee subpoenas that would have exposed those texts. They also refused to answer questions about Mr. Strzok’s dismissal and refused to make him available for an interview.

The news about Mr. Strzok leaked only when the Justice Department concluded it couldn’t hold out any longer, and the stories were full of spin that praised Mr. Mueller for acting “swiftly” to remove the agent. Only after these stories ran did Justice agree on Saturday to make Mr. Strzok available to the House.

This is all the more notable because Mr. Strzok was a chief lieutenant to former FBI Director James Comey and played a lead role investigating alleged coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Mr. Mueller then gave him a top role in his special-counsel probe. And before all this Mr. Strzok led the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and sat in on the interview she gave to the FBI shortly before Mr. Comey publicly exonerated her in violation of Justice Department practice.

Oh, and the woman with whom he supposedly exchanged anti-Trump texts, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, worked for both Mr. Mueller and deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, who was accused of a conflict of interest in the Clinton probe when it came out that Clinton allies had donated to the political campaign of Mr. McCabe’s wife. The texts haven’t been publicly released, but it’s fair to assume their anti-Trump bias must be clear for Mr. Mueller to reassign such a senior agent.

There is no justification for withholding all of this from Congress, which is also investigating Russian influence and has constitutional oversight authority. Justice and the FBI have continued to defy legal subpoenas for documents pertaining to both surveillance warrants and the infamous Steele dossier that was financed by the Clinton campaign and relied on anonymous Russian sources.....

.....While there is no evidence so far of Trump-Russia collusion, House investigators have turned up enough material to suggest that anti-Trump motives may have driven Mr. Comey’s FBI investigation.....

........All of this reinforces our doubts about Mr. Mueller’s ability to conduct a fair and credible probe of the FBI’s considerable part in the Russia-Trump drama. Mr. Mueller ran the bureau for 12 years and is fast friends with Mr. Comey, whose firing by Mr. Trump triggered his appointment as special counsel. The reluctance to cooperate with a congressional inquiry compounds doubts related to this clear conflict of interest.....

.......The latest news supports our view that Mr. Mueller is too conflicted to investigate the FBI and should step down in favor of someone more credible. The investigation would surely continue, though perhaps with someone who doesn’t think his job includes protecting the FBI and Mr. Comey from answering questions about their role in the 2016 election.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-credibility-problem-1512432318

Fify 😎

Well said.



https://youtu.be/lw2BVI9OhC4

[Zetaspeak]

Trump's lies are getting more preposterous every day. What a sorry excuse for a leader.

In attempting to distance himself from Flynn, Trump Tweets that he knew about Flynn's lies to the FBI, opening himself up to potential obstruction of justice re Comey. And now, he says it was HIS LAWYER who sent the Tweet--in Trump's own voice! R i g h t! As if his lawyer would do something so incredibly stupid! LMAO!

http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/937007006526959618

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5139137/Trump-says-not-worried-Flynns-guilty-plea.html

Doesn't Trump do that a lot. From giving out a shout out to WikiLeaks as we know now around the same time his son was having "quiet contact" with them, to during the NBC interview and just blurts out he fired Comey over the "Russia thing", to even doing the handicap mocking thing when talking about that journalist.

It's like Trump got some form of Tourette, that his natural nature is to lie all the time but sometimes he blurts truth about himself.

[3OctaveFart]

He can't discern lie from fact. Therein lies the pathology.

[Kidnostad3]

Your post has zero to do with what I posted about your Marxists trying to politicize and criminalize anything anyone else is doing, while pretending they should be immune from scrutiny and prosecution.  But I understand because you really have no good response to my post. 

Another thing you don't quite seem to get despite being told repeatedly is the Republicans aren't a conservative party.  They never have been.  Much of the base is.  Some individual members and office holders are.  Others claim to be during their campaigns and when they return to their districts.  Sometimes one of the conservatives even wins the presidency.  You think they are the conservative party because a) the Establishment falsely claims to be from time to time, and b) the dishonest Left tries to demonize them by insisting they are far to the right.  It's a way of brushing off the fact that they are the true extremists, while claiming to be centrists.

I don't like Trump, the person.  Never have.  I don't like the way he's conducted himself in office so far.  But you know what?  He ran on Tea Party policies, and for the most part has stuck with them.  I'm frustrated he hasn't gotten more accomplished, and that for the most part that's due to him getting in his own way. 

You think he's some master criminal, and is spends his time self dealing?  Prove it.  Where is there any evidence of that?  At all?  He's been under tremendous scrutiny for over a year now and... nothing.  Yet to you he's some mobster and threat to the republic, and anyone pointing out, say, Obama's actual specific felonies we can point to, and intentional destruction of the country is told ''that's irrelevant''.

The tactics being used by the left are right out of Sol Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.  The problem is that leftists posting on BG either aren't smart enough to know that or, what's even even worse, they do. 

[Gd5150]

The tactics being used by the left are right out of Sol Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.  The problem is that leftists posting on BG either aren't smart enough to know that or, what's even even worse, they do.

The safest guess would be on the side of they’re ignorant. The modern education systems revolve around spoonfeeding opinions rather than teaching people how to critically think. The lemmings here and elsewhere are simply regurgitating opinions based on opinions that are based on opinions. None based on any facts. 99% of political news today is opinions and theories based on unknown or nonexistent sources.

Just look at the stupid ass Mueller investigation into Trump Campaign/Russian collusion to rig an election. There has never been a single piece of evidence to justify any of it. But they just keep repeating it to each other and now you have leftwing lemmings at all levels of so-called education believing it actually happened. There’s not even any logic behind it let alone evidence. The Democrat/left has been communist friendly since the end of WW2. And they still are. The lemmings are too ignorant to know this of course.

[21st Century Man]

Just a note.  Seems like a country (Israel) should have the right to name its own capital (Jerusalem) and if they are our ally, we should recognize it.

[TigerLily]

Just a note.  Seems like a country (Israel) should have the right to name its own capital (Jerusalem) and if they are our ally, we should recognize it.

Jerusalem is in Palestinian territory. Think the Berlin corridor through East Germany. Makes it a complicated issue

[TigerLily]

The Republicans are robbing from health care, education and children for the biggest tax break ever given to the people who by far have the most money already. And adding $1 trillion to the deficit. May they burn in a Hell of their own creation

[Dr. MD MD]

The Republicans are robbing from health care, education and children for the biggest tax break ever given to the people who by far have the most money already. And adding $1 trillion to the deficit. May they burn in a Hell of their own creation

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