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Started by jazmunda, August 12, 2016, 09:16:19 PM

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 03, 2016, 01:38:07 PM
. . . a Poet Laureate, sir, you are not.  :P ;D


I can't be incredibly brilliant at everything; just moderately capable at some.

starrmtn001

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 03, 2016, 01:47:57 PM

I can't be incredibly brilliant at everything; just moderately capable at some.
Understood, YP.  We still love ya. ;) :-*

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 03, 2016, 01:49:29 PM
Understood, YP.  We still love ya. ;) :-*

The 'we' concerns me; I'm not good in crowds.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 03, 2016, 01:29:21 PM

I'm (sniff) falling apart (sniff) here...and my sleeve is covered in snot...

I pray that is mirth, sir, and not the silly pathos that infects your race at the most inappropriate times.  Stiff upper lip, my ass.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 03, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
I pray that is mirth, sir, and not the silly pathos that infects your race at the most inappropriate times.  Stiff upper lip, my ass.

You're one of those bad asses who didn't cry when Bambi's mother got shot aren't you?

starrmtn001

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 03, 2016, 01:51:42 PM
The 'we' concerns me; I'm not good in crowds.
I was speaking for your fan base.  Maybe I shouldn't be so presumptuous.  Sorry.  My bad. :-[ ::)

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 03, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
You're one of those bad asses who didn't cry when Bambi's mother got shot aren't you?

Now that would hardly be consonant with a poetical constitution, would it?  I do not, however, have her mug on a teacup on the shelf.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 03, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
I was speaking for your fan base.  Maybe I shouldn't be so presumptuous.  Sorry.  My bad. :-[ ::)

That really is in the realms of fantasy; fan base? I generate barely disguised contempt and that's from my most loyal subjects.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 03, 2016, 02:08:14 PM
Now that would hardly be consonant with a poetical constitution, would it?  I do not, however, have her mug on a teacup on the shelf.


As I said, bad ass.  :'(

jazmunda

Testing new stream, website and chat for a very short time. Stop by and say hi.

http://jazcast.com

Call 646 374 2666 or Skype jaz.munda

jazmunda

Thanks for the calls Luca, Willy, Starr and thanks to kdubb and SciFi Author for hanging out and chatting.

starrmtn001

Quote from: jaz on September 08, 2016, 01:33:35 AM
Thanks for the calls Luca, Willy, Starr and thanks to kdubb and SciFi Author for hanging out and chatting.
My pleasure, Jaz.  And thank you for a fun show. ;) ;D

jazmunda

Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 08, 2016, 02:09:16 AM
My pleasure, Jaz.  And thank you for a fun show. ;) ;D

Hopefully my dating tips for akwilly takes off.

If any one else wants dating advice I'm available for consultation at modest prices.

jazmunda

The next impromptu show might be as early as tomorrow night (around 9ish PT). Stay tuned .....

akwilly

I was bummed I lost the stream towards the end of the show. These impromptu Jaz casts are the best. Thanks for taking my call and thanks for playing great tunes

K_Dubb

"Spruiker" is a great word.  In addition to "hawker", I just thought of "barker", as in carnival barker, that's similar, but neither is in general circulation.

Is the obvious verb form used?  If I do it, am I spruiking?

jazmunda

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 08, 2016, 04:03:40 AM
"Spruiker" is a great word.  In addition to "hawker", I just thought of "barker", as in carnival barker, that's similar, but neither is in general circulation.

Is the obvious verb form used?  If I do it, am I spruiking?

Yes. A spruiker spruiks while spruiking.

The Brits call it a tout.

The link above labels it as being annoying but I was not using it to describe starr in the way. Starr does a fantastic job of promoting the various podcasting endeavours of BellGab members and that is very much appreciated by us. Thank you Starr.

K_Dubb

Quote from: jaz on September 08, 2016, 07:59:57 AM
Yes. A spruiker spruiks while spruiking.

The Brits call it a tout.

Oh that is funny.  The verb form of tout survives here in the expression "to tout one's accomplishments", but it's almost never used otherwise.  As a noun, it's completely unknown.

starrmtn001

Quote from: jaz on September 08, 2016, 07:59:57 AM
Yes. A spruiker spruiks while spruiking.

The Brits call it a tout.

The link above labels it as being annoying but I was not using it to describe starr in the way. Starr does a fantastic job of promoting the various podcasting endeavours of BellGab members and that is very much appreciated by us. Thank you, Starr.
My pleasure, Jaz.  I am always happy to help and have your back. ;) :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 08, 2016, 10:33:30 AM
Oh that is funny.  The verb form of tout survives here in the expression "to tout one's accomplishments", but it's almost never used otherwise.  As a noun, it's completely unknown.

I'm assuming used to describe someone who sells on tickets above market value?

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 08, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
I'm assuming used to describe someone who sells on tickets above market value?

That is a scalper over here, sir.  Old west and all.

jazmunda

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 08, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
That is a scalper over here, sir.  Old west and all.

It's a scalper here too.

K_Dubb

Quote from: jaz on September 08, 2016, 02:05:26 PM
It's a scalper here too.

Fascinating!  I heard an interview once with an Australian linguist who described the language as pulled between American and British English -- the American influence dating from WWII, the British much further back.  Of course he was a pompous old coot whose accent to me was nearly indistinguishable from Shreddi's and whose judgments reeked of the class concerns which as an American I deplore.

It would be awesome if your "spruiker" was a survivor from the days when Australia was New Holland and Tasmania Van Diemen's Land.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 08, 2016, 10:33:30 AM
Oh that is funny.  The verb form of tout survives here in the expression "to tout one's accomplishments", but it's almost never used otherwise.  As a noun, it's completely unknown.

It's used often in sports betting (and especially horse racing) as a guy that recommends "can't miss picks" usually from some inside information.

starrmtn001

Etymologist: One who studies the origin of words.

Entomologist: One who studied insects.

Entymologist: One who studies insect speak.

ENTomology: A lost science said to originate in the legendary Shire of Middle Earth.  A study of Tree Languages and communication. 

Example:  "Douglas.  Wood yew pine fir me?"     heh, heh, heh. ::) :-*

K_Dubb

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on September 08, 2016, 02:35:06 PM
It's used often in sports betting (and especially horse racing) as a guy that recommends "can't miss picks" usually from some inside information.

Oh that is cool!  Never been to a track.  I wonder if horse-racing borrowed it from British English along with a lot of the rest of the racing culture, silks and derbies and stakes and such.

Even your "can't miss picks" has a prissified whiff about it that makes me suspect its origins in that twee little isle.  A rawboned American would've said something like "sure-fire winner."

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 08, 2016, 02:40:24 PM
Oh that is cool!  Never been to a track.  I wonder if horse-racing borrowed it from British English along with a lot of the rest of the racing culture, silks and derbies and stakes and such.

It's for any sport. If you go to a sportsbook in Las Vegas there will be a bunch of touts there. They will chat you up and act friendly, many of them also have some experience as either a coach or scout in the NFL or baseball. They also sometimes act as beards (you call them up and they go and place a bet for you) that people from California/Arizona often use.

Horse Racing is the most famous for touts though as its hard to bet without some inside info and the touts watch the horses in the morning. If you are betting on some horse race in Dubai or something this is a necessary service.

Did you ever here those AM radio ads where a guy says "$19.99 and call this number for my can't miss football picks for this weekend"-that is a tout.  Usually if you win 58% of your wagers, that is a good tout.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on September 08, 2016, 02:45:26 PM
It's for any sport. If you go to a sportsbook in Las Vegas there will be a bunch of touts there. They will chat you up and act friendly, many of them also have some experience as either a coach or scout in the NFL or baseball. They also sometimes act as beards (you call them up and they go and place a bet for you) that people from California/Arizona often use.

Horse Racing is the most famous for touts though as its hard to bet without some inside info and the touts watch the horses in the morning. If you are betting on some horse race in Dubai or something this is a necessary service.

Did you ever here those AM radio ads where a guy says "$19.99 and call this number for my can't miss football picks for this weekend"-that is a tout.  Usually if you win 58% of your wagers, that is a good tout.

Thanks for the education!  Are the touts at a racetrack paid for their tips?  Or just friendly old guys looking to help you out?

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 08, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
Thanks for the education!  Are the touts at a racetrack paid for their tips?  Or just friendly old guys looking to help you out?

They get paid. Its like $20-50. College football touts sometimes ask $300. Depending on how big you win, you are supposed to tip 5-10% on top of that.
Lots of young people are touts now, too. Used to be just some old guy that would talk to you for hours about their years working for some horse trainer in Kentucky.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on September 08, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
They get paid. Its like $20-50. College football touts sometimes ask $300. Depending on how big you win, you are supposed to tip 5-10% on top of that.
Lots of young people are touts now, too. Used to be just some old guy that would talk to you for hours about their years working for some horse trainer in Kentucky.

Goodness, I had no idea.  I had an uncle whose mother was a phone bookie in New Jersey in the '30s and '40s.  I wonder if the American use of the word is that old.  I'm guessing not, and that its adoption was a cultural appropriation for aspirational reasons, but there's nobody around to ask.

Edit: I am wrong!  The Racetrack Tout was apparently a Jack Benny character associated with the "Psst hey buddy c'mere a minute" I remember from old cartoons!

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