Gov. Gary Johnson

[Walks_At_Night]

Looks like Johnson has just thrown his hat in the ring.   Looks like he'll be up against John McAfee for the LP nomination.   
To me the third party presidential debates are the only fun part of the presidential election process.  I never miss 'em.

https://www.garyjohnson2016.com/

[Walks_At_Night]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGq4D5irpKw

A clone of this  ad got my attention in 2012.  Not sure about this time around..........

[VtaGeezer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGq4D5irpKw

A clone of this  ad got my attention in 2012.  Not sure about this time around..........

He should've run as a Repub.  Just as Sanders can't get past his self-inflicted "socialist" tag, "libertarian" labels one as naive and unserious. 

[Walks_At_Night]

Here is John McAfee for President 2016 commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd6dKjVp9l0

[Walks_At_Night]

Another Ad from Johnson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STn0eDYSens

[Walks_At_Night]

And a rather glassy eyed McAfee.   It's rather bizarre...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOUSHt4rJqk

[VtaGeezer]

Another Ad from Johnson:

Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken serious by grownups.

[Walks_At_Night]

Well, I just read where Johnson has decided to give up smoking dope during the stretch run until November.

So he has that going for him

[Dr. MD MD]

Well, I just read where Johnson has decided to give up smoking dope during the stretch run until November.

So he has that going for him

Bill never gave it up. Lightweight!  :

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm sorry but I really think the only Gary I could support for president is Spivey!

Spivey 2016!
The Hair of the Future!!! 

[FightTheFuture]

Another Ad from Johnson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STn0eDYSens

Great ad. He`s got my vote.

[21st Century Man]

Great ad. He`s got my vote.

Campaign theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWD2WIvRQk

[Dr. MD MD]

Great ad. He`s got my vote.

Run! He's got an axe and he's grinding it!! 

Seriously, though...I think I actually own a similar axe. 

I don't know about his slogan though: Try being libertarian with me this once and I'll prove it to you! 

It reminds me of that one time this guy convinced me to be gay with him. He said it didn't mean I was gay if I just did it once and I still regret falling for that.  :

No, there's just too many bad memories for me now that I associate with this guy. I'm going to have to stick with Spivey. 

[21st Century Man]

It reminds me of that one time this guy convinced me to be gay with him. He said it didn't mean I was gay if I just did it once and I still regret falling for that.  :

I've been propositioned by quite a few gay guys over my life.  I turned them all down but I told them I was flattered by their compliments about how I looked.  I did experiment once when I was a kid due to peer pressure if you can fucking believe it.  My friends weren't really gay but they were drunk and horny and thought why not. I did not care for the feeling then though I don't think he ever managed to get his thing inside me for very long.  I said no more after about 2 minutes and went upstairs to drink some more.   They kept at it for the rest of the night.  End of story.

[Dr. MD MD]

I've been propositioned by quite a few gay guys over my life.  I turned them all down but I told them I was flattered by their compliments about how I looked.  I did experiment once when I was a kid due to peer pressure if you can fucking believe it.  My friends weren't really gay but they were drunk and horny and thought why not. I did not care for the feeling then though I don't think he ever managed to get his thing inside me for very long.  I said no more after about 2 minutes and went upstairs to drink some more.   They kept at it for the rest of the night.  End of story.

I was being facetious to make a point, buddy. 

You so crazy! 

[21st Century Man]

I was being facetious to make a point, buddy. 

You so crazy! 

Sure you were!  I understand though. <Wink, wink, nudge, nudge>   I'm comfortable with my heterosexuality so I have no problem sharing these stories.   If people want to rib me about it, have at it.  I bet the first person that makes a joke about it is not comfortable in their own sexuality.

[Dr. MD MD]

Sure you were!  I understand though. <Wink, wink, nudge, nudge>   I'm comfortable with my heterosexuality so I have no problem sharing these stories.   Maybe I'll just delete it.

It's not like I think any less of you as a result. It's just very open of you. Were you someone who spent a lot of time in the Falkie thread? 

[21st Century Man]

It's not like I think any less of you as a result. It's just very open of you. Were you someone who spent a lot of time in the Falkie thread? 

Nah.  I didn't spend much time on there.  I am very open.  If people have a problem with it, that is their problem.  I could care less.

[Dr. MD MD]

Nah.  I didn't spend much time on there.  I am very open.  If people have a problem with it, that is their problem.

I agree. Sexuality should never be the basis of a moral opinion, sans obvious cases of abuse and/or assault, of course.

[21st Century Man]

I agree. Sexuality should never be the basis of a moral opinion, sans obvious cases of abuse and/or assault, of course.

Right. I am fairly liberal in a lot of ways.  I believe in freedom.  That is the basis for my political ideology.  I detest restrictions on freedom unless a person's acts are doing harm to others.  I certainly don't want any government telling me how to act or live.  It is why I detest big government.

[Dr. MD MD]

Right. I am fairly liberal in a lot of ways.  I believe in freedom.  That is the basis for my political ideology.  I detest restrictions on freedom unless a person's acts are doing harm to others.  I certainly don't want any government telling me how to act or live.  It is why I detest big government.

That was the problem with Rockin Ronnie's morality squad back in the 80s. Those clowns were trying to get into the bedrooms of average Americans and start laying down law there. I'm sorry, but there's only one guy who lays down the law in my bedroom and I call that guy Dr. MD MD Jr. 

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

There's nothing wrong with voting Libertarian.  I've done it, and honestly, with the trajectory the Republican Party has been on for the past 16 years I never thought I'd ever be voting for them and would just protest vote Libertarian for the rest of my life.  Hopefully with the way the Republican establishment has been shaken up this cycle it will bring them to their senses.  All I know is Hillary cannot win, so I probably won't be voting Libertarian this time.  But I do wish Gary the best.

[Dr. MD MD]

There's nothing wrong with voting Libertarian.  I've done it, and honestly, with the trajectory the Republican Party has been on for the past 16 years I never thought I'd ever be voting for them and would just protest vote Libertarian for the rest of my life.  Hopefully with the way the Republican establishment has been shaken up this cycle it will bring them to their senses.  All I know is Hillary cannot win, so I probably won't be voting Libertarian this time.  But I do wish Gary the best.

So, you're saying you don't think it makes you gay? 

[21st Century Man]

That was the problem with Rockin Ronnie's morality squad back in the 80s. Those clowns were trying to get into the bedrooms of average Americans and start laying down law there. I'm sorry, but there's only one guy who lays down the law in my bedroom and I call that guy Dr. MD MD Jr. 

LOL.  Yeah, the Meese police.  The war on porn and such. I didn't particularly care for that aspect of the Reagan administration but part of me longs for a time where moral values are important.  Part of me doesn't.  That is why I don't criticize or praise that aspect but I agree that the government has no place in our bedrooms.  That is where I part with people like Cruz and Greg Abbott.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

So, you're saying you don't think it makes you gay? 

No, engaging in sexual relations with a member(s) of the same gender makes you gay.

[Dr. MD MD]

No, engaging in sexual relations with a member(s) of the same gender makes you gay.

Well, I'm glad we cleared this one up tonight, guys. Libertarianism and homosexuality are NOT the same thing! And don't let anyone try to convince you of that, people! Their motives probably aren't pure. 

The more you know 

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I'm a buffet Libertarian and someone who takes our Constitutional liberties seriously.  I think consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want as long as they don't endanger anyone else and abide by reasonable standards of public decency. However, I'm also passionately in favor of strong, but pragmatic, government regulations that protect people's savings, investments, and pensions; enforce the kind of first class health and environmental standards the hard working people who live in the richest fucking nation in the world deserve; guarantee that when a corporation that's "too big to fail" has to be bailed out by taxpayers because of malfeasance, those responsible aren't too big to jail, preferably in the general population of a state prison; and ensure fair, humane employment policies instead of the laissez-faire system of slavery, indentured servitude, child labor, six day eleventy-two hour work weeks, and a willful disdain for inexpensive safety measures when it was more cost effective to simply replace employees who are killed or disabled unnecessarily.

The main reason the Libertarian Party doesn't receive more support is because it has traditionally demanded an unreasonable standard of ideological purity from its members. I got involved with the small, but passionately dedicated, local chapter twenty years ago because of the LP's positions on civil liberties, and it didn't take long to find out why there weren't more members.  A lot of it had to do with my unfamiliarity with Ayn Rand and my inability to understand why that mattered.  If that attitude has changed since then I'd gladly give them another chance, because the alternatives are less appealing than waking up in a Bombay alley and discovering that one of your kidneys is missing.

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm a buffet Libertarian and someone who takes our Constitutional liberties seriously.  I think consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want as long as they don't endanger anyone else and abide by reasonable standards of public decency. However, I'm also passionately in favor of strong, but pragmatic, government regulations that protect people's savings, investments, and pensions; enforce the kind of first class health and environmental standards the hard working people who live in the richest fucking nation in the world deserve; guarantee that when a corporation that's "too big to fail" has to be bailed out by taxpayers because of malfeasance, those responsible aren't too big to jail, preferably in the general population of a state prison; and ensure fair, humane employment policies instead of the laissez-faire system of slavery, indentured servitude, child labor, six day eleventy-two hour work weeks, and a willful disdain for inexpensive safety measures when it was more cost effective to simply replace employees who are killed or disabled unnecessarily.

The main reason the Libertarian Party doesn't receive more support is because it has traditionally demanded an unreasonable standard of ideological purity from its members. I got involved with the small, but passionately dedicated, local chapter twenty years ago because of the LP's positions on civil liberties, and it didn't take long to find out why there weren't more members.  A lot of it had to do with my unfamiliarity with Ayn Rand and my inability to understand why that mattered.  If that attitude has changed since then I'd gladly give them another chance, because the alternatives are less appealing than waking up in a Bombay alley and discovering that one of your kidneys is missing.

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. 

Rand has always bugged me too. 

[21st Century Man]

I'm a buffet Libertarian and someone who takes our Constitutional liberties seriously.  I think consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want as long as they don't endanger anyone else and abide by reasonable standards of public decency. However, I'm also passionately in favor of strong, but pragmatic, government regulations that protect people's savings, investments, and pensions; enforce the kind of first class health and environmental standards the hard working people who live in the richest fucking nation in the world deserve; guarantee that when a corporation that's "too big to fail" has to be bailed out by taxpayers because of malfeasance, those responsible aren't too big to jail, preferably in the general population of a state prison; and ensure fair, humane employment policies instead of the laissez-faire system of slavery, indentured servitude, child labor, six day eleventy-two hour work weeks, and a willful disdain for inexpensive safety measures when it was more cost effective to simply replace employees who are killed or disabled unnecessarily.

The main reason the Libertarian Party doesn't receive more support is because it has traditionally demanded an unreasonable standard of ideological purity from its members. I got involved with the small, but passionately dedicated, local chapter twenty years ago because of the LP's positions on civil liberties, and it didn't take long to find out why there weren't more members.  A lot of it had to do with my unfamiliarity with Ayn Rand and my inability to understand why that mattered.  If that attitude has changed since then I'd gladly give them another chance, because the alternatives are less appealing than waking up in a Bombay alley and discovering that one of your kidneys is missing.

The only difference I have with you is that I think most of the regulations and such should be done on a state level not a federal level but that is just me.  I'm a stickler when it comes to constitutionally delegated powers. I can't argue with these reasonable regulations though.

[21st Century Man]

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. 

Rand has always bugged me too. 

Little known fact about Ayn Rand.  She came to Hollywood when she emigrated from Russia.  She had a small part in DeMille's King of Kings from 1928.  She played Mary Magdalene's slave girl.  DeMille was very intrigued with her.