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Started by sillydog, April 06, 2008, 04:15:35 PM

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b_dubb

Doc Fadiman was a pushy dick to callers.  i wanted Ian to put him in his place. Doc ... you flap your gums about LSD and I (Ian) will help callers get to the point

Loving the show on superheros so far. I know a lot of you are probably as excited about this as a show about zombies, but it does it for me. Ian has the best guests.

SnapT

This was a ZILLION times better than Ian's zombie shows, especially once Ian steered away from the boring "superheroes are modern day metaphors for whatever" talk.  "Oh wow, the persecuted mutants from X-MEN are supposed to be like gay people!  And Marvel's THOR is our modern-day version of the Thor of ancient mythology!  How fascinating!"

I wish Uslan would've gone into more detail on the nuts and bolts of producing the BATMAN films, though, and I applaud Ian for trying to rip details out of him.  Uslan's really long-winded and it was like pulling teeth getting him to answer most questions directly.

Quote from: b_dubb on September 28, 2011, 10:46:54 AM
Doc Fadiman was a pushy dick to callers.  i wanted Ian to put him in his place. Doc ... you flap your gums about LSD and I (Ian) will help callers get to the point

Agree! Especially where he told the caller that his story was 'boring'? And you are trying to sell your book? Maybe you forgot to include the part (in your book) about how doing LSD causes self-sabbotaging behaviors? Not to mention the fact that the C2C audience loves other people's stupid, boring stories or they wouldn't be listening.

It might be a generalization, but has anyone else noticed that too many of these 'consciousness studies geeks' carry themselves with an arrogant air of superiority - as if they *see* things that other people can't see? We old hippies had a name for that type of trip...it was called an ego trip!

Silent

I'm am listening to an older Art Bell somewhere in time replay right now from 21 July, 1997.  Sometime during the final hour of the show Art reads a transcript from a radio show done on WGST in Georgia done by Ian Ponnet (Art spelled the last name out).  I'm guessing the transcript got the spelling wrong as Ian Punnett worked at this station during those years.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Punnett

The radio spot was something about UFO sightings in Georgia.  This must have been enough to get Art to ask Ian about hosting CTC since Ian started in 1998.  Interesting!

During the same show Art talked about using some computer phone software called Iphone, or maybe Eyephone.  He was always ahead of the times.

valdez

     Another show about police abuse, the second one Ian has done on this subject.  This time with former Seattle police chief Norm Stamper.  Ian is perplexed as to why cops lie for each other when everybody else is expected to tell the truth.  We all, to some extent, lie on behalf of our co-workers.  Or would Ian care to tell us what he really thinks about George Noory?  Yeah.  I know.  It's different with cops.  They do occupy a special status in our society.  But still, lets not get too high and mighty.  Seething radical Robert Sheer on the glorious wall street protesters.  He wonderes why some people have so much wealth.  I don't know.  Hard work?  luck?  If they stole it,  put them in jail.  If not, give it a rest.  The media is quickly making these protesters their darlings, with little if any of the scrutiny that the horrible tea party experienced.  A guy called in saying that people were quitting their jobs to join the protest.  Ironic?

I don't know what it says either, but they sure look happy about it.

Frys Girl

Quote from: valdez on October 09, 2011, 05:31:56 AM
     Another show about police abuse, the second one Ian has done on this subject.  This time with former Seattle police chief Norm Stamper.  Ian is perplexed as to why cops lie for each other when everybody else is expected to tell the truth.  We all, to some extent, lie on behalf of our co-workers.  Or would Ian care to tell us what he really thinks about George Noory?  Yeah.  I know.  It's different with cops.  They do occupy a special status in our society.  But still, lets not get too high and mighty.  Seething radical Robert Sheer on the glorious wall street protesters.  He wonderes why some people have so much wealth.  I don't know.  Hard work?  luck?  If they stole it,  put them in jail.  If not, give it a rest.  The media is quickly making these protesters their darlings, with little if any of the scrutiny that the horrible tea party experienced.  A guy called in saying that people were quitting their jobs to join the protest.  Ironic?


Valdez, this is my favorite editorial by you yet. Thank you.

valdez

Quote from: Frys Girl on October 09, 2011, 05:42:27 AM
...Thank you.
Thank you, Frys Girl.  You had disappeared for a while.  Good to have you back.

Frys Girl

Quote from: valdez on October 09, 2011, 06:09:25 AM
     Thank you, Frys Girl.  You had disappeared for a while.  Good to have you back.
Thanks! I forgot to add that the "Ironic?" at the end was a great jab at George's "Ironic?" after talking about the death of Steve Jobs coinciding (dare I use the word?) with the release of the iPhone 4GS.

Eddie Coyle

 

     Ian has a "Serpico"-wannabe...how the Hell is this a C2C topic? Punnett now makes a mockery of the foundation Art put forth. Retire,Reverend,retire.

Quote from: valdez on October 09, 2011, 05:31:56 AM
      If they stole it,  put them in jail.  If not, give it a rest. 

There's plenty of evidence the "people" (well, that's how Mitt Romney refers to them) he was referring to did steal it. But don't those radical "socialists" Obama or Eric Holder to do anything about it.

By the by.....the media did whatever they could to ignore OWS for almost 2 weeks until it became impossible to ignore. Meanwhile, CNN will cover any gathering of more than five Tea Partiers......which is getting hard to arrange.

SnapT

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on October 09, 2011, 07:32:20 AMIan has a "Serpico"-wannabe...how the Hell is this a C2C topic? Punnett now makes a mockery of the foundation Art put forth. Retire,Reverend,retire.
Preach it!  I'd rather have had another Ian zombie War of the Worlds broadcast than last night's down to Earth snoozefest.  He only hosts C2C once or twice a week, why is he wasting time with non-C2C topics?

Scully

Quote from: SnapT on October 09, 2011, 06:21:42 PM
Preach it!  I'd rather have had another Ian zombie War of the Worlds broadcast than last night's down to Earth snoozefest.  He only hosts C2C once or twice a week, why is he wasting time with non-C2C topics?

About a year ago, a caller asked Ian pretty much the same thing.  An obviously irritated Ian said there just aren't enough paranormal stories to talk about.

If it were television we would have been able to see Ian's nose growing even as he spoke.

bmd88

Quote from: TaoOfLuxLisbon on October 09, 2011, 11:59:08 AM
There's plenty of evidence the "people" (well, that's how Mitt Romney refers to them) he was referring to did steal it. But don't those radical "socialists" Obama or Eric Holder to do anything about it.

By the by.....the media did whatever they could to ignore OWS for almost 2 weeks until it became impossible to ignore. Meanwhile, CNN will cover any gathering of more than five Tea Partiers......which is getting hard to arrange.

You are absolutely correct. And OWS is the "media's darling"?  You've got to be kidding me.  Every piece of coverage I've caught from half of the outlets has tried to downplay the whole thing. You've got FOX continuously pushing the story that it's just hippy "kids" (sorry, people in their mid twenties and early 30s are not kids.  They are young adults and next in succession to inherit the mess your inept generation has concocted.) with nothing better to do, who don't have a job (as if that is something to vilify someone for in this economy), and who are all "socialists" and have no idea what they want.  I watched FOX all night tonight and this is what I heard from Huckabee and guests of Geraldo.  What a circus (as usual). 

MSNBC, the other wing of lunacy, is trying to coopt the movement and turn it into something the Dems, labor, and Soros can own to help boost Obama.  The whole thing has become one big clusterfuck in the media if you ask me.  The original message has been distorted and fragmented and OWS is loosing its cohesiveness due to groups as opposing as labor & anti-capitalists and Alex Jones & Paul supporters trying to claim the movement at the same time.

Quote from: bmd88 on October 09, 2011, 09:45:24 PM
You are absolutely correct. And OWS is the "media's darling"?  You've got to be kidding me.  Every piece of coverage I've caught from half of the outlets has tried to downplay the whole thing. You've got FOX continuously pushing the story that it's just hippy "kids" (sorry, people in their mid twenties and early 30s are not kids.  They are young adults and next in succession to inherit the mess your inept generation has concocted.) with nothing better to do, who don't have a job (as if that is something to vilify someone for in this economy), and who are all "socialists" and have no idea what they want.  I watched FOX all night tonight and this is what I heard from Huckabee and guests of Geraldo.  What a circus (as usual). 

MSNBC, the other wing of lunacy, is trying to coopt the movement and turn it into something the Dems, labor, and Soros can own to help boost Obama.  The whole thing has become one big clusterfuck in the media if you ask me.  The original message has been distorted and fragmented and OWS is loosing its cohesiveness due to groups as opposing as labor & anti-capitalists and Alex Jones & Paul supporters trying to claim the movement at the same time.

Yeah, liberal movements never have any money behind them to start like the Tea Party did with the Koch Brothers and such "outsiders" as Dick Armey.....and of course the health care industry who was bussing people in to break up every town meeting held by a Democrat in 2009 until they got the infamous "seat at the table" they wanted. Lefties get co-opted at the back end, while righties get left high and dry when the money men get their payoff or the curtain gets pulled on them.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Scully on October 09, 2011, 09:35:30 PM

About a year ago, a caller asked Ian pretty much the same thing.  An obviously irritated Ian said there just aren't enough paranormal stories to talk about.

If it were television we would have been able to see Ian's nose growing even as he spoke.

     Yes, the only thing that irritates Ian more than paranormal subjects are callers who ask about paranormal subjects. If he had his druthers, he'd completely eschew C2C subjects and become the "Jim Bohannon-lite" show he craves.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: TaoOfLuxLisbon on October 10, 2011, 01:11:21 AM
Yeah, liberal movements never have any money behind them to start like the Tea Party did with the Koch Brothers and such "outsiders" as Dick Armey.....and of course the health care industry who was bussing people in to break up every town meeting held by a Democrat in 2009 until they got the infamous "seat at the table" they wanted. Lefties get co-opted at the back end, while righties get left high and dry when the money men get their payoff or the curtain gets pulled on them.

    Liberal movements have major benefactors like the Ford Foundation and George Soros. Both of whom exert far more power and influence than the odious Koch Brothers. La Raza's existence almost solely comes from Ford Foundation coffers.

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on October 10, 2011, 02:01:16 AM
    Liberal movements have major benefactors like the Ford Foundation and George Soros. Both of whom exert far more power and influence than the odious Koch Brothers. La Raza's existence almost solely comes from Ford Foundation coffers.


Don't forget International ANSWER, the people bringing peace protests to a city near you - you know, the ones that end up with burning cars and buildings.  Funded by North Korea.

Soros just lost another attempt to overturn his insider trading conviction in France at the European Court.  The 'Progressives' in this country sure have some great friends. 

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on October 10, 2011, 01:56:53 AM
     Yes, the only thing that irritates Ian more than paranormal subjects are callers who ask about paranormal subjects. If he had his druthers, he'd completely eschew C2C subjects and become the "Jim Bohannon-lite" show he craves.

I wouldn't have a problem with Ian if he went in his own direction at all. He's a great host on his own. He can make almost any topic interesting, even some I wasn't excited to hear about beforehand. Ian has good interview skills, especially if it's on something he's interested in. It's clear when he is shoehorned into topics as his distaste for the guests and callers shows.

Instead Ian should be left to do his own thing. He is interesting enough to carry his own show. Whether that show needs to be about the paranormal is for the host to decide. Frankly some of the regular guests on Coast are terrible and I'd look forward to a night of open lines instead (let's never hear from the numbers lady ever again). Ian's approach is more of an examination of a general pop culture which the paranormal is a very small part of, and I like that angle. I know it's impossible for Ian to carry his own show because of his obligation as the morning guy in Minneapolis but I really do think that's too bad. Coast may not be the best vehicle for him but there is a lot of potential with Ian.

I always found Ian to be more accessible than Knapp, though I've warmed up to George over the past few years. People point the finger at Ian because it's easier to identify when he's not into a show but Knapp does this as well, and has had some real stinkers as a result.

Aside from all that the best shows on Coast were with people who were not involved in the paranormal at all, like Michio Kaku or the show Art did on caving. As long as an eye is kept to the unknown and mysterious the show will hold someones attention. Granted maybe not the current audience. But right now I think that may be an improvement on the whole.

Frys Girl

As much as I hate Wall Street for its unethical, risky practices, it is among the few, mega billions earning industries left in this country. I don't want to see Wall Street enter jail because our dollar will suffer.


My family never participated in stocks and trading because it is too much like gambling. I'll never do it either. I remember Rush Limbaugh talking about financial planners and that speech always stuck with me. Never trust anyone with your money, especially if he is telling you that you'll get more if you give him yours. Millions of people do it, and it helped America, but it also hurt this country. Unfortunately, there isn't enough business left in America to do away with Wall Street, so until this rough transition passes, nothing will happen.


My only worry is that we'll end up going to war again to boost the economy, and that is an even bigger gamble.

To add to that a little bit, a big part of what attracts me to the show (and why I can't stand Noory) is the personality of the host. It doesn't really matter what the topic is, if the guy behind the microphone can *convince* the listeners there is a guest worth listening to at the other end of the line then he has done a good job. Part of talking for a living is holding the audience's attention with topics that may be outside of what they are usually exposed to. That's how a show like Coast grows and thrives, not by rehashing the same topics. So I do agree with the approach Ian has taken to the show, at least the way I see it.

The host's personality and interests really came through with Art who in periods of downtime would fill in the listeners on his cats and details of his personal life, or just random musings on life or things that interested him. To me those little moments of personal insight do more to "build character" to the perception of the host.  He becomes more than just a voice on the radio and instead is an interesting subject in his own right. Also Art spun a lot of great ideas out of personal musings which seemed at the time to be throw-away (ie, the date-from-hell line, Antichrist line, etc). 

Sorry to get off track and I don't mean to derail this thread. But the comment about Ian stripping the paranormal off of Coast got me thinking. Anyway. Continue.

b_dubb

Quote from: Frys Girl on October 10, 2011, 04:48:57 AM
My only worry is that we'll end up going to war again to boost the economy, and that is an even bigger gamble.
we already have three wars why would we need another?  how would that BOOST the economy?  if war were the answer we'd be flushing solid gold toilets and sleeping in fine silk pj's


i'm doing neither at the moment.  am i missing something?


Lovely Bones

Quote from: Agent : Orange on October 10, 2011, 04:38:14 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with Ian if he went in his own direction at all. He's a great host on his own. He can make almost any topic interesting, even some I wasn't excited to hear about beforehand. Ian has good interview skills, especially if it's on something he's interested in. It's clear when he is shoehorned into topics as his distaste for the guests and callers shows.

Instead Ian should be left to do his own thing. He is interesting enough to carry his own show. Whether that show needs to be about the paranormal is for the host to decide. Frankly some of the regular guests on Coast are terrible and I'd look forward to a night of open lines instead (let's never hear from the numbers lady ever again). Ian's approach is more of an examination of a general pop culture which the paranormal is a very small part of, and I like that angle. I know it's impossible for Ian to carry his own show because of his obligation as the morning guy in Minneapolis but I really do think that's too bad. Coast may not be the best vehicle for him but there is a lot of potential with Ian.

I always found Ian to be more accessible than Knapp, though I've warmed up to George over the past few years. People point the finger at Ian because it's easier to identify when he's not into a show but Knapp does this as well, and has had some real stinkers as a result.

Aside from all that the best shows on Coast were with people who were not involved in the paranormal at all, like Michio Kaku or the show Art did on caving. As long as an eye is kept to the unknown and mysterious the show will hold someones attention. Granted maybe not the current audience. But right now I think that may be an improvement on the whole.

Excellent post, AO.  Given the current state of C2C, weekday variety under Snoory, I'll take Ian talking about police issues or Knapp talking about wild mustangs over almost anything Georgie Boy does, simply because

--the weekday version of Coast has turned into a "hawking snake oil" health show

--the weekday version of Coast has turned into a "hawking gold and e-foods direct" show

--the weekday version of Coast is all about the doom and gloom we inevitably face (despite Georgie's constant refrain that he doesn't believe the Mayan calendar means the end of the world)

--the weekday version of Coast is hosted by a moron who can't be bothered to prepare for his guests and

--the weekday version of Coast is hosted by a moron who has no background to draw from (other than a quick trip to Wikipedia) which would allow him to engage in conversation with the guest, hence his reliance on canned questions, one size fits all!

A week or so ago, he was introducing two women psychics.  He read the canned introductions, which clearly explained why each woman had become interested in/involved in psychic phenomena.  After the introductions, the first question he asked each woman was, "So how did you become interested in this field?", the very thing he had JUST explained to his audience!

Give me Ian or Knapp any day of the week, regardless of topic, over Noory doing the paranormal. 

bmd88

Quote from: b_dubb on October 10, 2011, 06:43:19 AM
we already have three wars why would we need another?  how would that BOOST the economy?  if war were the answer we'd be flushing solid gold toilets and sleeping in fine silk pj's


i'm doing neither at the moment.  am i missing something?

Agreed.  I think that poster has the misconception that this is still 1943 and that our country still actually MAKES things in a factory to supply war and commercial needs. 

By the way, what is up with the "going to war AGAIN"?  Are we not in more wars right now than we've ever been at one time in our nation's history?

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: bmd88 on October 10, 2011, 08:35:17 AM
Agreed.  I think that poster has the misconception that this is still 1943 and that our country still actually MAKES things in a factory to supply war and commercial needs. 

      Exactly, our wars lead to a steady string of jobs...everywhere but here. The "spread of democracy" in the Middle East is merely a pre-cursor to making them part of the outsourcing World Tour.

Frys Girl

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on October 10, 2011, 09:12:24 AM
      Exactly, our wars lead to a steady string of jobs...everywhere but here. The "spread of democracy" in the Middle East is merely a pre-cursor to making them part of the outsourcing World Tour.
War is something that helps the DC metro economy like nothing else. The contractors here are very dependent on the government and its war needs.

bmd88

Quote from: Frys Girl on October 10, 2011, 10:33:30 AM
War is something that helps the DC metro economy like nothing else. The contractors here are very dependent on the government and its war needs.

In your original post, it did not seem like you were referring to the "DC metro economy", but the US economy as a whole.  Just my opinion.

Frys Girl

Quote from: bmd88 on October 10, 2011, 10:58:51 AM
In your original post, it did not seem like you were referring to the "DC metro economy", but the US economy as a whole.  Just my opinion.
Well, I am pretty sure that while most of them are headquartered here due to their proximity to the Pentagon, they have stations and offices elsewhere.


I get the sense that you're after me about my comment. I didn't say I think war is good for the economy, but it is something that society falls back on in bad economic times.

bmd88

Quote from: Frys Girl on October 10, 2011, 11:02:41 AM
Well, I am pretty sure that while most of them are headquartered here due to their proximity to the Pentagon, they have stations and offices elsewhere.

Those have virtually no effect on the nation's economy.  You're right with the Washington area reaping the apparent economic benefits of military operations, but this isn't the same as war having a positive effect on the national economy during the 1940s.  That wartime economic boom was spurred through industrialization that is unheard of today.  Any economic benefit of war today is merely hyperlocal, and superficial at that, because (obviously) the cost-benefit ratio is overwhelmingly negative.  The billons spent on the wars we are in far outweigh any local economic mini-booms in places like the Washington suburbs.


Quote from: Frys Girl on October 10, 2011, 11:02:41 AMget the sense that you're after me about my comment. I didn't say I think war is good for the economy, but it is something that society falls back on in bad economic times.

I'm after your comment, not you.  I think it is ridiculous to not recognize that we are in multiple wars right now.

Also, as I said, to suggest that society wants to fall back on wars to boost the economy is simply untrue.  How do you figure that society is or is going to "fall back on wars" in this economic climate?  I don't hear anyone advocating our engagement in yet another war, so I don't see how you can assume this.

Quote from: bmd88 on October 10, 2011, 12:28:06 PM
Also, as I said, to suggest that society wants to fall back on wars to boost the economy is simply untrue.  How do you figure that society is or is going to "fall back on wars" in this economic climate?  I don't hear anyone advocating our engagement in yet another war, so I don't see how you can assume this.

There are people who think we should go to war with Iran (look at Mitt Romney's foreign policy team)......although they don't give a rat's ass about the US economy because they already have their hands in many global corporate interests who would profit from it regardless.

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