Art Bell

[Zenman]

Thanks Morgus, interesting stuff. A lot of "who knew?" moments while reading that material.

[albrecht]

Actually it's worse.  People in newsrooms now are too ignorant in all areas to be a cheerleader for anything.  They cut and paste press releases and think they are writing a story.

Yep. Especially local news when they need filler from traffic accidents, rapes, murders, and fires. But increasingly also the national networks (especially the ones who need 24/7 something to talk about.)  Anecdotal but a relative who worked for a network in NYC said the place/people was awash with sexual harassment, coke, drinking, etc by the star "reporters" (teleprompter readers.)  And things like pretty hardcore fetish porn being "left up" on computers for interns etc to see "by mistake" and so on. Name escapes me now(!) but the guy on Simpsons, Spinal Tap, etc had a cool show about showing the live sat feeds, not intended to be aired, from news rooms and they were hilarious in the vanity, worker abuse, fakery, etc.

[Zenman]

 
Al-Jazeera non censured ?  , getting like North Korea ? Going a bit overboard here ??  OK carry on

Yes, AJ is defintely censored. No argument there.

It disturbs me a bit tho that I have to listen to foreign news outlets to get a more objective perspective on what's happening in the US than reported by our own msm. This wasn't the case a few years back (20?). And the trend is progressing.

[onan]

We can all act all indignant and puff our chests. Yeah the news rooms get it wrong, don't understand, and have other agendas. Pfft. The majority of viewers can't understand the eighth grade language that is used to reach them. And if it doesn't get the adrenaline pumping with rage it is ignored. The public gets what it deserves. Instead of worrying about Iran where we have no impact we should be following local stories and the politicians that are in our neighborhood. How many here have been to their town's council meetings? How many here can name their county commissioners?

Legitimate news stories die on the vine. In the 80's a publisher tried to make a go of mostly positive news stories... yeah, go ahead guess.

If there is a conspiracy here, it definitely is a conspiracy of dunces.

[MAX]

Yes, AJ is defintely censored. No argument there.

It disturbs me a bit tho that I have to listen to foreign news outlets to get a more objective perspective on what's happening in the US than reported by our own msm. This wasn't the case a few years back (20?). And the trend is progressing.

Agree Zen Master George Orwell's vision is now reality

[Zenman]

Although they (PBS, BBC, CBC, NPR, etc) still produce good programming as a news source the publicly funded entities seem to have an agenda, depending on the station/country. In the States with our NPR/PBS is more of a bent toward social issues but that depends on the administration etc. An example: recently a controversy over Frontline dropping a show about gambling (allegedly due to Chinese and Adelson influence and threats of lawsuits.) Other countries face even worse legal (and otherwise) situations and so reporters have to be "very careful" if they haven't already been already bought-out. Al-J, RT, the Jewish news services, etc have a more outright political agenda but still can be a good source. As with anything, follow the money and know the agenda. Much of the news, besides weather (and even there maybe  considering local Chambers of Commerce for a 4th of July weekend or HAARP/Chemtrails  ,) are press releases from corporations or governments.

"Of course" we all know the only good news source is Norry's news update segment on C2C that he just looked up on Drudge, WND, or Yahoo news and speed-dialed his "experts."

>>>>"Much of the news, besides weather (and even there maybe  considering local Chambers of Commerce for a 4th of July weekend or HAARP/Chemtrails  ,) are press releases from corporations or governments."

This is a really good way to look at most of the main stream news output these days.  And I agree that you have to look at each particular news agency to understand their agenda. I'm afraid I pine for the days of Cronkite and objective integrity, altho there were certainly agendas back then too.

I don't agree tho that Noory's news update is the only good news source these days. I prefer The Onion.

[Juan]

Instead of worrying about Iran where we have no impact we should be following local stories and the politicians that are in our neighborhood. How many here have been to their town's council meetings?

Exactly.  Through the 80s and 90s, the accountants took over the newsrooms.  They viewed reporters and photographers as costs rather than assets.  I tried and tried to point out that the only thing local TV stations and newspapers have to sell is local news, and that if they fire the majority of reporters and photographers, they will have no local news.  As less and less actual local news aired and was printed, viewership and readership declined.  I have no problem telling them "I told you so."

People in TV newsrooms, when they are not screaming "fuck" at the top of their lungs over some minor trangression, will tell you that the viewers are too stupid to understand complex stories.  I got in lots of trouble by pointing out that the reporter's job was to explain a complex issue so the viewers could understand it.  I was hauled into the news director's office a number of times over that one.  I never once found a reporter who, when sent to a local government story on a bond issue, would ask if the bond is a revenue bond or a general obligation bond.  The difference being that a revenue bond would charge a user fee to pay off the loan, while a general obligation bond paid the bond from the general tax fund.  The reporters could not understand that.

Sorry </rant>

[MV/Liberace!]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2357847/pg1?disclaimer=1

I think this is the story...interesting, if not disturbing...

Met his third wife, Marcelle Lear, at a promotion for Learjets. While in his Batman (1966) costume, he posed with Learjet executive (and son of the founder) John Lear - who was married to her at the time.

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Toward the end, I asked him to record a couple liners/drops for the station. He sheepishly informed me he usually charges for that sort of thing. I just drilled into his soul with this "you've gotta be kidding me" expression on my face, which prompted him to shut the hell up and do it... you know... just to get rid of me.

Julie Newmar was also there, and she's exactly what you expect a 900 year old Hollywood starlet to be: bat shit crazy and expecting the same treatment she got decades ago. She seemed completely disconnected mentally from this universe... just absolutely "out there". The person who organized the event told me that the morning of, she walked into her office to find Julie Newmar lying on the floor flopping around like a fish. This is apparently how she approaches the management of her back pain when nobody is looking.

Adam and Julie never made eye contact or spoke to one another even once. Clearly some history there.

[MV/Liberace!]

Sadly nowadays news is more about sensationalism and ratings instead of being responsible broadcasters.

It's also more about news people inserting themselves into the news for the purpose of "changing the world" or making it a better place. Just tell us what happened and shut the hell up, I say.

[chefist]

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Toward the end, I asked him to record a couple liners/drops for the station. He sheepishly informed me he usually charges for that sort of thing. I just drilled into his soul with this "you've gotta be kidding me" expression on my face, which prompted him to shut the hell up and do it... you know... just to get rid of me.

Julie Newmar was also there, and she's exactly what you expect a 900 year old Hollywood starlet to be: bat shit crazy and expecting the same treatment she got decades ago. She seemed completely disconnected mentally from this universe... just absolutely "out there". The person who organized the event told me that the morning of, she walked into her office to find Julie Newmar lying on the floor flopping around like a fish. This is apparently how she approaches the management of her back pain when nobody is looking.

Adam and Julie never made eye contact or spoke to one another even once. Clearly some history there.

wow, great story...the fact that he actually thought he had a chance to be Tim Burton's Batman is an example of his detachment from reality...

[Marc.Knight]

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Toward the end, I asked him to record a couple liners/drops for the station. He sheepishly informed me he usually charges for that sort of thing. I just drilled into his soul with this "you've gotta be kidding me" expression on my face, which prompted him to shut the hell up and do it... you know... just to get rid of me.

Julie Newmar was also there, and she's exactly what you expect a 900 year old Hollywood starlet to be: bat shit crazy and expecting the same treatment she got decades ago. She seemed completely disconnected mentally from this universe... just absolutely "out there". The person who organized the event told me that the morning of, she walked into her office to find Julie Newmar lying on the floor flopping around like a fish. This is apparently how she approaches the management of her back pain when nobody is looking.

Adam and Julie never made eye contact or spoke to one another even once. Clearly some history there.

Hey MV - You write very well!

[SaucyRossy]

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Toward the end, I asked him to record a couple liners/drops for the station. He sheepishly informed me he usually charges for that sort of thing. I just drilled into his soul with this "you've gotta be kidding me" expression on my face, which prompted him to shut the hell up and do it... you know... just to get rid of me.

Julie Newmar was also there, and she's exactly what you expect a 900 year old Hollywood starlet to be: bat shit crazy and expecting the same treatment she got decades ago. She seemed completely disconnected mentally from this universe... just absolutely "out there". The person who organized the event told me that the morning of, she walked into her office to find Julie Newmar lying on the floor flopping around like a fish. This is apparently how she approaches the management of her back pain when nobody is looking.

Adam and Julie never made eye contact or spoke to one another even once. Clearly some history there.

There's an awesome Conan bros esque movie to be made about the bat shit craziness of the behind the scenes drama of this show.

[ItsOver]

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Toward the end, I asked him to record a couple liners/drops for the station. He sheepishly informed me he usually charges for that sort of thing. I just drilled into his soul with this "you've gotta be kidding me" expression on my face, which prompted him to shut the hell up and do it... you know... just to get rid of me.

Julie Newmar was also there, and she's exactly what you expect a 900 year old Hollywood starlet to be: bat shit crazy and expecting the same treatment she got decades ago. She seemed completely disconnected mentally from this universe... just absolutely "out there". The person who organized the event told me that the morning of, she walked into her office to find Julie Newmar lying on the floor flopping around like a fish. This is apparently how she approaches the management of her back pain when nobody is looking.

Adam and Julie never made eye contact or spoke to one another even once. Clearly some history there.

Interesting.  I enjoy the campy nature of the old "Batman."  Adam West has struck me as one who is not just acting.  There seems to be some innate oddness about him.

[MV/Liberace!]

Hey MV - You write very well!

Thanks, sweetie. At the moment, I have nothing but time. Waiting in the "Super Park" at the STL airport for my mother in law's delayed flight to get here.

[MV/Liberace!]

There's an awesome Conan bros esque movie to be made about the bat shit craziness of the behind the scenes drama of this show.

Any idea what it will be called?

[chefist]

Any idea what it will be called?

MV, have you ever eaten at Lambert's?

[akwilly]

cool story MV, Thanks for sharing

[stevenotero]

wow, great story...the fact that he actually thought he had a chance to be Tim Burton's Batman is an example of his detachment from reality...

lol yep! If anyone is looking for some lulz Ralph Garman does a great Adam West impression.

[Morgus]

There's an awesome Conan bros esque movie to be made about the bat shit craziness of the behind the scenes drama of this show.

There was a TV-movie they made about ten years ago:
Return to the Batcave: The Misadventures of Adam and Burt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0321359/

[SciFiAuthor]

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Great story. I actually get creepy vibes from about half of the cast of the original Batman when I watch it. Cesar Romero. Jesus, how'd you like to have that guy running at you.

[Jocko Johnson]

This is a story the media will probably ignore, but China basically now has the name, SS#, address, family members, background for 21 million people who've done work for the US government. Everyone from contractors to CIA agents, anyone that's held a security clearance. It's like having a telephone book for recruiting spies or hacking important individuals. I can't believe the US government was this negligent and didn't have better security.

Unrestricted Warfare is an odd one. I'm not sure what China meant by that. It's not something that you'd want out there unless you were trying to send a message with it. I'm guessing they were telling us "we can defeat you if we want to".

Well I guess the Chinese got me then...do they deliver, a little something to eat right now would be great!

[Jocko Johnson]

He also took on a gang of 5 I believe but said he was willing to die to protect others, or some such bullshit, dude I fought in the ring nobody's taking out 5 except in the movies or with a gat.

Dude, i've fought on the streets of NYC Brooklyn and faced more than 5...1st rule, no rules, so you are correct and lasercockface is totally full of shit.

[albrecht]

Well I guess the Chinese got me then...do they deliver, a little something to eat right now would be great!

Why, you'll just be hungry in an hour. (And they would add your menu selections to the vast database they have on you from their hacking.)

[SciFiAuthor]

Well I guess the Chinese got me then...do they deliver, a little something to eat right now would be great!

They got everyone including the director of the FBI. Basically anyone that's held a clearance after 1998.

[Jocko Johnson]

Adam West and I sat in a restaurant and talked for about half an hour in 2001. I was interviewing him for a radio station I was working for at the time. I got very creepy vibes from that guy. There's a definite uncertainty about him, but not a cool sort of mysterious uncertainty. It's more like an "unmarried undertaker" type of uncertainty.

Toward the end, I asked him to record a couple liners/drops for the station. He sheepishly informed me he usually charges for that sort of thing. I just drilled into his soul with this "you've gotta be kidding me" expression on my face, which prompted him to shut the hell up and do it... you know... just to get rid of me.

Julie Newmar was also there, and she's exactly what you expect a 900 year old Hollywood starlet to be: bat shit crazy and expecting the same treatment she got decades ago. She seemed completely disconnected mentally from this universe... just absolutely "out there". The person who organized the event told me that the morning of, she walked into her office to find Julie Newmar lying on the floor flopping around like a fish. This is apparently how she approaches the management of her back pain when nobody is looking.

Adam and Julie never made eye contact or spoke to one another even once. Clearly some history there.

Sorry MV, this sounds just like a flakie story.

[Jocko Johnson]

They got everyone including the director of the FBI. Basically anyone that's held a clearance after 1998.

Yes and it really just sux. How we don't just have the FBI go out and gather up all these hackers in the US and where ever, tell them all, ok people it's a long time in jail for most of you and it's nothing like mom's basement. So from now on you are gonna work for us and you geniuses are gonna kick ass on all these other countries pulling this shit on us...ok. Now let's get to work.

[MV/Liberace!]

MV, have you ever eaten at Lambert's?

I have. It's typical bland Midwestern country ass old people dog food. To add insult to injury, you must wait in line behind 400 backwoods lard assess before you can finally enter.

Yeah, they throw the rolls there. We get it.

[chefist]

I have. It's typical bland Midwestern country ass old people dog food. To add insult to injury, you must wait in line behind 400 backwoods lard assess before you can finally enter.

Yeah, they throw the rolls there. We get it.

he he...I never did, just saw the signs everywhere...

[MV/Liberace!]

Sorry MV, this sounds just like a flakie story.

After it was all over, Julie Newmar helped me move all of my stuff into a storage unit. Thanks, JuJu (as I call her).

[Kolchak]

I have. It's typical bland Midwestern country ass old people dog food. To add insult to injury, you must wait in line behind 400 backwoods lard assess before you can finally enter.

Yeah, they throw the rolls there. We get it.

I can vouch for this. There is nothing special about the food nor the atmosphere.

If I don't need sub sandwiches shot to me via pneumatic tubes or pizza catapulted from a slingshot I sure don't need rolls thrown at me. Serve them on a goddamn plate and save me the time.