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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM


I honestly believe if we are ever to get rid of this bull crap two party choice between a douche and a turd sandwich we will need to look at some form of ranked voting system.  In this way hopefully people could feel free to vote their actual conscience and not be burdened by the whole “throwing away your vote” arguments. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting

Those arguments don’t really work on me anyway but I would’ve been more comfortable with a ranked voting alternative I think.

The lukewarm devotion to your orange savior is not surprising. Buyers remorse is common.

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In another year you may be joining the dogs.

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Oh. Good. You’re back to post the rest of the internets memes to this thread. How productive. 

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: ItsOver on December 01, 2018, 07:38:06 PM
Ha!  MSM = Propaganda ministry for the deep state and globalist elitists.  Keep fighting, Donald, I don't know how you keep doing it.

They don't even care that more people see through them. They'll continue to bleat to the remaining sheep in their declining flock.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Enard P Farkwark on December 01, 2018, 09:26:34 PM
Oh. Good. You’re back to post the rest of the internets memes to this thread. How productive.

He could post more Jeff Foxworthy jokes. He'll just have to replace "redneck" with "Trump fan", which is quite daring humor in 2018 America.  ::)

WOTR

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 01, 2018, 06:06:27 PM
That's a great post. I share your wish for a third party. It's a shame that it has yet to seem realistic or viable...

Like you, I was in the "ABC" camp. The Democratic Party couldn't have chosen a more corrupt and more crooked Establishment politician. They picked the one candidate that Trump actually could beat.
The major problem is that it is "politics of fear."  There was a provincial alternative for an election, and I told my father that I was going to vote for party "x" as they most closely matched my beliefs and views.  He was upset and told me that I needed to vote for party "a" or else party "b" might get into power.

Anyhow, it was a long argument.  I told him that I could not vote for a party who only held 50% of my beliefs in order to prevent a party who I strongly disagreed with from getting in when there was a party whose platform I agreed with 90% of the time.   (I hope that makes sense.)

Anyhow, that is where you are now.  People vote more against a party than they do for what they believe in.  They are afraid to vote for somebody who represents them if it means that they might split the vote allow a candidate that they hate representing a party that they dislike to get in.

No, I don't know the solution.  I know that I voted my beliefs, and it made no difference in the grand scheme of things.

There is one hope- but it will not happen.  Trump could tell the truth (that the republican party is a corrupt, dishonest party that often mirrors the democrats) and run as an independent next election.  I believe he would get in, and it might finally break the hold of a two party state.  It won't happen- but it is a nice thought...

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 01, 2018, 11:44:18 PM
He could post more Jeff Foxworthy jokes. He'll just have to replace "redneck" with "Trump fan", which is quite daring humor in 2018 America.  ::)


Someone's missing his key demographic Trump memes. Well, wait no further....

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 Another brilliant MAGA member.

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WeinerInHand

Quote from: tiny hands Convention on December 02, 2018, 05:59:11 AM

Someone's missing his key demographic Trump memes. Well, wait no further....

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What's sad is that you actually believe this.

The truth is that most are just normal people who want to go to work and be left alone to raise their families without politics having to be at the front and center of their lives.

So what changed to make these people become frustrated enough to get out and vote and to keep constant pressure on elected officials to do what they were elected to do? Well, it's YOU...

You see, you weren't happy with tax increases to pay for every little fucked up, mental deficient piece of garbage that simply refused to work while the rest of us had to tighten their belt to accommodate.

You weren't happy with forcing nonsensical p.c. correctness upon us and demanding that we learn a bunch of rules that didn't have anything to do with our lives, or interests.

Nope, you weren't happy with living the life that you demanded that we let you live. You are so unhappy that you decided to block the roads that we need to travel to work and pay for your fiscal demands upon us.
If we objected, you would physically attack us, and our families and friends - all the while continuing your diatribe as to how WE are nothing more than that which you show in that picture.

You backed us in to a corner and left us no alternative route.

So who's to blame? YOU.

Personally, I hope that you continue. We need people to see it so that they remember exactly who you are, and why we need to not let our guard down.

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 02, 2018, 06:28:37 AM
What's sad is that you actually believe this.

The truth is that most are just normal people who want to go to work and be left alone to raise their families without politics having to be at the front and center of their lives.

So what changed to make these people become frustrated enough to get out and vote and to keep constant pressure on elected officials to do what they were elected to do? Well, it's YOU...

You see, you weren't happy with tax increases to pay for every little fucked up, mental deficient piece of garbage that simply refused to work while the rest of us had to tighten their belt to accommodate.

You weren't happy with forcing nonsensical p.c. correctness upon us and demanding that we learn a bunch of rules that didn't have anything to do with our lives, or interests.

Nope, you weren't happy with living the life that you demanded that we let you live. You are so unhappy that you decided to block the roads that we need to travel to work and pay for your fiscal demands upon us.
If we objected, you would physically attack us, and our families and friends - all the while continuing your diatribe as to how WE are nothing more than that which you show in that picture.

You backed us in to a corner and left us no alternative route.

So who's to blame? YOU.

Personally, I hope that you continue. We need people to see it so that they remember exactly who you are, and why we need to not let our guard down.


What's truly sad is that you choose to wallow in your own ignorance and blame others for your failures. You honestly think that your own life is so much harder than an immigrants or minorities? You've been given every opportunity to succeed in this country, especially being a white male, but it's all about poor little oppressed you. Imagine having to have empathy for others of less privilege. Educate yourself about what your chosen party has actually done for the working class. Vote with not only your own problems in mind.


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WildCard

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 02, 2018, 06:28:37 AM
What's sad is that you actually believe this.

The truth is that most are just normal people who want to go to work and be left alone to raise their families without politics having to be at the front and center of their lives.

So what changed to make these people become frustrated enough to get out and vote and to keep constant pressure on elected officials to do what they were elected to do? Well, it's YOU...

You see, you weren't happy with tax increases to pay for every little fucked up, mental deficient piece of garbage that simply refused to work while the rest of us had to tighten their belt to accommodate.

You weren't happy with forcing nonsensical p.c. correctness upon us and demanding that we learn a bunch of rules that didn't have anything to do with our lives, or interests.

Nope, you weren't happy with living the life that you demanded that we let you live. You are so unhappy that you decided to block the roads that we need to travel to work and pay for your fiscal demands upon us.
If we objected, you would physically attack us, and our families and friends - all the while continuing your diatribe as to how WE are nothing more than that which you show in that picture.

You backed us in to a corner and left us no alternative route.

So who's to blame? YOU.

Personally, I hope that you continue. We need people to see it so that they remember exactly who you are, and why we need to not let our guard down.

Fuckin' A, Man!

I think someone posted this in the sjw thread -

https://youtu.be/RULrBJN6COE
(Don't watch it unless you like to rage.)

So I made a mental note way back then,
"Hope white Stacy wins. I sure would like to vote for a Democrat."

I've never thought of myself as racist but if it's like that, I'm gonna fight for my team and I intend to win.

Speaking of race-bating, which one of you did this?






Quote from: WildCard on December 02, 2018, 07:57:57 AM
And there it is. FUCK YOU!!!



The truth hurts so good doesn't it?


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Poor wittle white man! So oppressed and spoiled rotten to the core!


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Have a pure, whitewashed day.

WildCard

Quote from: tiny hands Convention on December 02, 2018, 08:17:18 AM
The truth hurts so good doesn't it?

I've never understood how the working class could vote against their own interests for what I viewed as petty issues like abortion. I understand now.

Quote from: tiny hands Convention on December 02, 2018, 08:17:18 AM
Poor wittle white man! So oppressed and spoiled rotten to the core!

Have a pure, whitewashed day.

Lemme tell ya somethin about white men -
That computer you're on? White men made that.
Indoor plumbing? White men.
Central Heat? White men.
And so on and so forth.


WeinerInHand

Quote from: tiny hands Convention on December 02, 2018, 06:53:03 AM

What's truly sad is that you choose to wallow in your own ignorance and blame others for your failures. You honestly think that your own life is so much harder than an immigrants or minorities? You've been given every opportunity to succeed in this country, especially being a white male, but it's all about poor little oppressed you. Imagine having to have empathy for others of less privilege. Educate yourself about what your chosen party has actually done for the working class. Vote with not only your own problems in mind.


Well, there you go again, proving my point.
You chastise and belittle me for bigotry by attacking my sex and race: your hypocrisy on display for all to see. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that you didn't attack my sexuality - this being the trifecta of liberal assault.
You have left little doubt that the straight, white, male is no longer welcome among your ranks, and yet you wonder why they are abandoning your cause en masse, bringing concerned parents along with them.
Yes, it's bigotry alright, and it's your own.

Empathy is earned, not demanded. Attacking my countries sovereignty and then refusing to assimilate to our custom and culture will gain no sympathy from me, and nor should it be this way for any country.

Any favor given to me by race is no more than any culture in which a particular race is dominant -- strength in number.

I do very well for myself, and so I assume your accusations of failure are mere projection.

Please, continue...

WeinerInHand

Quote from: WildCard on December 02, 2018, 07:53:04 AM
Fuckin' A, Man!

Ha - thanks!



Yeah, "Do as I say, not as I do" politics are becoming more and more difficult to mask with any sort of veil, and most people have grown tired of coddling a liberal culture that has nothing to contribute.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: tiny hands Convention on December 02, 2018, 06:04:13 AM
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Just like in 2016 your anti-Trump memes will get him elected again in 2020. Keep it up! ;D

Metron2267

Quote from: Enard P Farkwark on December 01, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
I honestly believe if we are ever to get rid of this bull crap two party choice between a douche and a turd sandwich we will need to look at some form of ranked voting system.  In this way hopefully people could feel free to vote their actual conscience and not be burdened by the whole “throwing away your vote” arguments. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting

Those arguments don’t really work on me anyway but I would’ve been more comfortable with a ranked voting alternative I think.

I am NOT more comfortable with the notion that someone else will determine an algorithm to herd my voting in any given direction or that anything in th eAustralian, Nee Zoolander or UK model bears the slightest improvement over our extant system!

You need to spend some time on that link and ask yourself precisely why you think a "ranked" vote will be an improvement over a "raw" vote.

And then please explain how coalition governance has (if you can) led to better outcomes overall than the two party system.

Splintering the votes into multiple small cause parties in the end only enhances the ability of the mega-rich power brokers to diminish and fragment the voice of the people.

Period! >:(

Metron2267

Quote from: WOTR on December 02, 2018, 01:42:06 AM
The major problem is that it is "politics of fear."  There was a provincial alternative for an election, and I told my father that I was going to vote for party "x" as they most closely matched my beliefs and views.  He was upset and told me that I needed to vote for party "a" or else party "b" might get into power.

Anyhow, it was a long argument.  I told him that I could not vote for a party who only held 50% of my beliefs in order to prevent a party who I strongly disagreed with from getting in when there was a party whose platform I agreed with 90% of the time.   (I hope that makes sense.)

Anyhow, that is where you are now.  People vote more against a party than they do for what they believe in.  They are afraid to vote for somebody who represents them if it means that they might split the vote allow a candidate that they hate representing a party that they dislike to get in.

This is not a bad thing as the vote now has come down to a choice of two vastly disparate macro models:

1.) The authoritarian, emotionally driven, and insanely open borders globalist remake of America into a half-baked socialist state in which those who fail to comply are shunned, attacked, and purged from the new reality.

2.) A basic nationalist, pro-populist platform in which capitalism is venerated(not vilified) and free market solutions are sought over simple obedience to failed global governance pipe dreams.

QuoteNo, I don't know the solution.  I know that I voted my beliefs, and it made no difference in the grand scheme of things.

So you protected your ideals/beliefs and were happy the bulk of voters did the actual deciding, yes?

QuoteThere is one hope- but it will not happen.  Trump could tell the truth (that the republican party is a corrupt, dishonest party that often mirrors the democrats) and run as an independent next election.  I believe he would get in, and it might finally break the hold of a two party state.  It won't happen- but it is a nice thought...

If you pay closer attention to what is really happening you'll see that in the Qanon narrative and dialog he is already doing that.

Here's a thought, before one saws off the branch supporting oneself it is imperative to consider how high in the tree one is and how close the next branch is to break the fall.

Even the richest man can't buy the top seat whilst simultaneously eschewing every branch he trod on to get there.

Metron2267

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 02, 2018, 06:28:37 AM
What's sad is that you actually believe this.

The truth is that most are just normal people who want to go to work and be left alone to raise their families without politics having to be at the front and center of their lives.

So what changed to make these people become frustrated enough to get out and vote and to keep constant pressure on elected officials to do what they were elected to do? Well, it's YOU...

You see, you weren't happy with tax increases to pay for every little fucked up, mental deficient piece of garbage that simply refused to work while the rest of us had to tighten their belt to accommodate.

You weren't happy with forcing nonsensical p.c. correctness upon us and demanding that we learn a bunch of rules that didn't have anything to do with our lives, or interests.

Nope, you weren't happy with living the life that you demanded that we let you live. You are so unhappy that you decided to block the roads that we need to travel to work and pay for your fiscal demands upon us.
If we objected, you would physically attack us, and our families and friends - all the while continuing your diatribe as to how WE are nothing more than that which you show in that picture.

You backed us in to a corner and left us no alternative route.

So who's to blame? YOU.

Personally, I hope that you continue. We need people to see it so that they remember exactly who you are, and why we need to not let our guard down.

God Bless you Weiner!

That was a masterfully written letter from across the "divide" - the very one these emotionally driven open borders Marxists built as a sacrificial altar to bleed our national sovereignty and dignity upon.

So mote it be.


Metron2267

Quote from: tiny hands Convention on December 02, 2018, 06:53:03 AM

What's truly sad is that you choose to wallow in your own ignorance and blame others for your failures.

"Failures"?

List Weiner's specific "failures" or fuck off and DIE you exterminable excrement pile.

He has not blamed any 'other" for any specific thing in his life here and you damned well know it. Ok, maybe the ex, but that he handled and solved for success.

Sure sucks when you have nothing in your quiver but the arrows of personal animus doesn't it?

QuoteYou honestly think that your own life is so much harder than an immigrants or minorities?

Obvious strawman question is an obvious strawman.

Of course Weiner made no such statement and you and all of us know it. >:(

QuoteYou've been given every opportunity to succeed in this country, especially being a white male, but it's all about poor little oppressed you.

This stands in stark, deceitful contrast to his statement the other day that he makes $50K a year and doesn't work all that hard.

He said NOTHING of oppression, not one single word, you lying vermin! >:(

QuoteImagine having to have empathy for others of less privilege.

Imagine having to demonstrate for all here that he LACKS said "empathy".

Go on - DO IT!

Take all the screens you need:



QuoteEducate yourself about what your chosen party has actually done for the working class.

Explain what NAFTA and GATT have done to our "working class" you deceitful leftarded dipshit.

Take all the screens you need:



QuoteVote with not only your own problems in mind.

Prove he votes thusly.

Use actual FACTS to do so.

Take all the screens you need:




WeinerInHand

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 02, 2018, 10:57:49 AM
God Bless you Weiner!

That was a masterfully written letter from across the "divide" - the very one these emotionally driven open borders Marxists built as a sacrificial altar to bleed our national sovereignty and dignity upon.

So mote it be.

It would have never gotten to this point if they were ever thankful for any of our contributions.
Instead, they offer nothing but childish tantrum.


Metron2267

Quote from: WildCard on December 02, 2018, 07:53:04 AM
Fuckin' A, Man!

I think someone posted this in the sjw thread -

https://youtu.be/RULrBJN6COE
(Don't watch it unless you like to rage.)

So I made a mental note way back then,
"Hope white Stacy wins. I sure would like to vote for a Democrat."

I've never thought of myself as racist but if it's like that, I'm gonna fight for my team and I intend to win.

Define your team then, who are they?

QuoteSpeaking of race-bating, which one of you did this?



Why racist DemoTards did - duh!

Metron2267

Quote from: WildCard on December 02, 2018, 08:43:08 AM
I've never understood how the working class could vote against their own interests for what I viewed as petty issues like abortion. I understand now.

Do you?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukcrX1CCQc

QuoteLemme tell ya somethin about white men -
That computer you're on? White men made that.
Indoor plumbing? White men.
Central Heat? White men.
And so on and so forth.

And at the core the commonality is?

"men"/humans.

Uh huh.

The sort is in. Because it was foisted upon us by our masters.

Metron2267

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 02, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
It would have never gotten to this point if they were ever thankful for any of our contributions.
Instead, they offer nothing but childish tantrum.



Precisely.

And the tantrum demands we surrender our nation to a Soros-funded "caravan" of invasionary Honduran MS13 goons.

FUCK ALL GLOBALISTS!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Gd5150

Quote from: WeinerInHand on December 02, 2018, 06:28:37 AM

Personally, I hope that you continue. We need people to see it so that they remember exactly who you are, and why we need to not let our guard down.


The beauty of free speech is these lemmings are easy to spot and thus scroll right past. Incapable of independent thought or critical thinking. Schlubs/Hands/Tooter/Duneboy is just another carbon copy leftwing lemming. The daily cut and paste memes. Unworthy of response.

Let their ignorance remain on display for all to see. With each lemming post have another laugh at their utter irrelevance. Their lack of persuasiveness.  With each post the hole they dig themselves into gets deeper. Not a scintilla of humor, wit, creativity, individualism, or intellect. The epitome of NPC. Bravo!







WeinerInHand

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 02, 2018, 11:15:19 AM
Precisely.

And the tantrum demands we surrender our nation to a Soros-funded "caravan" of invasionary Honduran MS13 goons.

FUCK ALL GLOBALISTS!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(



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