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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

One president spent years studying the Constitution, looking for ways to exploit it, undermine it, and go around it.  At which he excelled once in office.  Another president was busy working in the real world and didn't have a solid grasp of some of the finer points - much like most Americans, and obviously most foreigners.  He's learned a great deal since taking the job.

Guess which one Pud rails against - they guy undermining it in order to advance the radical Left, or the guy doing his best for the country

Taaroa

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 19, 2018, 05:13:17 PM
One president spent years studying the Constitution, looking for ways to exploit it, undermine it, and go around it.  At which he excelled once in office.  Another president was busy working in the real world and didn't have a solid grasp of some of the finer points - much like most Americans, and obviously most foreigners.  He's learned a great deal since taking the job.

Guess which one Pud rails against - they guy undermining it in order to advance the radical Left, or the guy doing his best for the country


I think this is the sort of drivel Pud reads, when it comes to Trump and the ''destruction of the alliance''.

Very alarmist premise, with Trump supposedly doing everything he can to break up the relationship, the grownups running Europe worrying that the breech may be permanent, public opinion hating Trump and America.  Yet when we read it what do we find?  We find they liked Obama and don't like Trump.  Followed by the same specious blather - with a European twist - we hear from our own Fake News Media

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-tensions-with-trump-deepen-europe-wonders-if-america-is-lost-for-good/ar-AAxw4Je?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ASUDHP 

I tend to not post links, because the people who need to read them are more interested in bias confirmation than fact-finding, but since we're lectured on the Constitution by those who alternately think it's either an outdated relic to be discarded, or a document to be badly misinterpreted then strictly adhered to when it suits them, here's what a real Constitutional lawyer* thinks of Mr Muller's conduct.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-investigation-crosses-the-legal-line-1526233750?mod=djcm_OBV1_092216&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral 



* Most of the so-called Constitutional lawyers in academia, media, the bureaucracy, and unfortunately on the bench, spend their time trying to convince people it means something other than what it says.  Their time is spent looking for ways to undermine it, ignore it, weaken it, get around it, etc.  Exhibit A is Berock Obama - no one was ever more brazen in doing so.  Special mention are these fake judges trying to usurp presidential authority because they don't agree with Trump on policy

A real Constitutional lawyer reads what it says, considers the meaning behind it, and tries to apply it to the issues of the day as best he or she can.





I caught a little bit of Levin's show Friday.

His suggestion is when Muller finally wraps up his shit show, that Trump do two things. 

One is to bypass Sessions*, and appoint one of the US attorneys get to the bottom of what went on in the Obama Administration with the spying, false FISA Court warrants, etc - that those in the various government agencies which were being used to interfere in the elections on behalf of the party in power need to be held to account:  Jake Tapper, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, Brennan, Comey, Mueller, Obama himself, and about 8 or 10 others. 

A US attorney can call a grand jury, subpoena witnesses, and issue indictments.  This week we find out the Administration planted a spy in the Trump campaign.  No doubt Moller and the fake news media will ignore that and busy themselves with more strippers.   

The second suggestion is to appoint a commission of former office holders to determine what changes need to be made at these agencies to ensure future administrations don't do the same.



* What the hell is the matter with Jeff Sessions, anyway?  Cowardice, incompetence, some misguided idea of decorum when it comes to ''bipartisanship'', over-caution in the extreme?  Was he a secret ''never Trumper'', did his fee-fees get hurt when Trump attacked him on Twitter, is he just part of the swamp who pretended to be a conservative his whole career, is he worried his friends will get caught up in the net? 

Whatever it is, he ought to step aside and let someone else come in and do the job.  Either which way, Trump needs to bypass him and appoint one of the US attorneys to run point on this issue.


Gd5150

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 21, 2018, 03:03:37 AM
I caught a little bit of Levin's show Friday.

His suggestion is when Muller finally wraps up his shit show, that Trump do two things. 

One is to bypass Sessions*, and appoint one of the US attorneys get to the bottom of what went on in the Obama Administration with the spying, false FISA Court warrants, etc - that those in the various government agencies which were being used to interfere in the elections on behalf of the party in power need to be held to account:  Jake Tapper, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, Brennan, Comey, Mueller, Obama himself, and about 8 or 10 others. 

A US attorney can call a grand jury, subpoena witnesses, and issue indictments.  This week we find out the Administration planted a spy in the Trump campaign.  No doubt Moller and the fake news media will ignore that and busy themselves with more strippers.   

The second suggestion is to appoint a commission of former office holders to determine what changes need to be made at these agencies to ensure future administrations don't do the same.



* What the hell is the matter with Jeff Sessions, anyway?  Cowardice, incompetence, some misguided idea of decorum when it comes to ''bipartisanship'', over-caution in the extreme?  Was he a secret ''never Trumper'', did his fee-fees get hurt when Trump attacked him on Twitter, is he just part of the swamp who pretended to be a conservative his whole career, is he worried his friends will get caught up in the net? 

Whatever it is, he ought to step aside and let someone else come in and do the job.  Either which way, Trump needs to bypass him and appoint one of the US attorneys to run point on this issue.

Was/is Seasions one of the Obama/FBI plants? Seems so. What do they have on Sessions that has made him completely nonexistent. He should’ve been canned last summer.

Metron2267

Quote from: Gd5150 on May 21, 2018, 09:18:30 AM
Was/is Seasions one of the Obama/FBI plants? Seems so. What do they have on Sessions that has made him completely nonexistent. He should’ve been canned last summer.

None of this would be in play had Trump not buckled to a deep state asset. Chris Christie was the obvious and impartial choice.

:(

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on May 19, 2018, 05:07:29 PM
The crucially obvious question here is, "Why isn't the porn star being charged with blackmail and extortion?" The answer, of course, is that the whole fucking thing never happened and it is all a prime distraction--as is evidenced by which of you fucking monkey fuckheads pay any attention to it.

Probably because she wasn't and isn't the one who initiated a non disclosure agreement. The event (and event I'm sure it was, jeeze she must have been high) happened in 2006. But it wasn't until 2016 that Trump apparently had no idea his then pet bitch Cohen set up an LLC to pay her out of to keep her quiet. What is surprising is he borrowed heavily against his own assets (although he'd got a lot of money going into said account) to pay her..and Trump for reasons I'm sure will become clear paid him back in instalments. $130000? An alleged billionaire can't pony up a 130K? It was Cohen who broke the deal with her when he mentioned her weeks ago.
Hey it's normal for lawyers (even bad ones) to recieve millions of dollars into an account from companies and foreign interests who want to buy time or influence, even though the lawyer isn't a registered lobbyist. ;D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gd5150 on May 21, 2018, 09:18:30 AM
Was/is Seasions one of the Obama/FBI plants? Seems so. What do they have on Sessions that has made him completely nonexistent. He should’ve been canned last summer.


Lolol.. amply demonstrating what a fine judge of character Trump is...Almost everyone he's nominated, or appointed has been shown the door after finding they're wife beaters, perverts, common crooks or just plain incompetent. He even tried to get a guy who had never been in court or taken a legal case appointed to the judicary! Trump is clueless.

https://youtu.be/wd-eYl-LiPs

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 21, 2018, 10:40:50 AM

Lolol.. amply demonstrating what a fine judge of character Trump is...Almost everyone he's nominated, or appointed has been shown the door after finding they're wife beaters, perverts,

You have a major obsession with Trump, an unnatural and largely projectionist act to service.

Hey, you made me change my vote for the mid terms ---NOT!

Lol @U!

Quote from: Metron2267 on May 21, 2018, 10:53:26 AM
You have a major obsession with Trump, an unnatural and largely projectionist act to service.

Hey, you made me change my vote for the mid terms ---NOT!

Lol @U!

Yorkie hates liars, yet doesn't mind a bit when his media sources are shown to have lied to him on nearly everything of importance.  He's a stickler for the law and the Constitution, yet can't point to laws broken by Trump or demonstrate where he's exceeded his Constitutional authority and seems fine with Obama and his team having done so routinely - even Kerry's gross violation of the Logan Act in trying to undermine a sitting president dealing with our enemy Iran two weeks ago continues to go uncommented on.

He's the BG poster boy for why foreigners shouldn't be interfering in our electoral process.

Metron2267

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 21, 2018, 11:12:40 AM
Yorkie hates liars, yet doesn't mind a bit when his media sources are shown to have lied to him on nearly everything of importance.  He's a stickler for the law and the Constitution, yet can't point to laws broken by Trump or demonstrate where he's exceeded his Constitutional authority and seems fine with Obama and his team having done so routinely - even Kerry's gross violation of the Logan Act in trying to undermine a sitting president dealing with our enemy Iran two weeks ago continues to go uncommented on.

He's the BG poster boy for why foreigners shouldn't be interfering in our electoral process.

Amen to that!


Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 21, 2018, 10:40:50 AM
Almost everyone he's nominated, or appointed has been shown the door after finding they're wife beaters, perverts, common crooks or just plain incompetent.

One hunts pheasant differently from geese. p.s. 3m ta3.

Jackstar

Quote from: Metron2267 on May 21, 2018, 10:53:26 AM
You have a major obsession with Trump

Yo, to be fair... this is the Trump thread.

Metron2267

Quote from: Jackstar on May 21, 2018, 12:00:20 PM
Yo, to be fair... this is the Trump thread.

Tis indeed, but he shows no ability to analyze with anything close to reason.

Plus he's a furriner, so any guff he presents is strictly non-voting drivel.

I wonder how welcome we'd be in the UK running our big 'ol Murican mouths?

Quote from: Metron2267 on May 21, 2018, 12:12:44 PM
... I wonder how welcome we'd be in the UK running our big 'ol Murican mouths?

It would of course depend on whether or not they were following either a jihadi agenda or not, or an EU agenda or not.  Folks like Michael Savage have been banned from there for telling the truth

Here in the US this was all fine, free speech and all, until people like Yorkie insisted that foreigners shouldn't be making comments involving our process, or be involved in any way.  In fact we have a special prosecutor who is supposed to be investigating that very thing (but isn't).  Maybe he meant unless they were clearly on the side of the progressive fascists.

Shoveler

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 21, 2018, 03:03:37 AM
* What the hell is the matter with Jeff Sessions, anyway?  Cowardice, incompetence, some misguided idea of decorum when it comes to ''bipartisanship'', over-caution in the extreme?  Was he a secret ''never Trumper'', did his fee-fees get hurt when Trump attacked him on Twitter, is he just part of the swamp who pretended to be a conservative his whole career, is he worried his friends will get caught up in the net? 

Whatever it is, he ought to step aside and let someone else come in and do the job.  Either which way, Trump needs to bypass him and appoint one of the US attorneys to run point on this issue.

Sessions has been around long enough to have skeletons in the closet and acquaintances who are aware of them.  Self preservation, he doesn't want to caught in the pipe draining the swamp.

Metron2267

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 21, 2018, 12:17:13 PM
It would of course depend on whether or not they were following either a jihadi agenda or not, or an EU agenda or not.  Folks like Michael Savage have been banned from there for telling the truth

Good catch!

QuoteHere in the US this was all fine, free speech and all, until people like Yorkie insisted that foreigners shouldn't be making comments involving our process, or be involved in any way.  In fact we have a special prosecutor who is supposed to be investigating that very thing (but isn't).  Maybe he meant unless they were clearly on the side of the progressive fascists.

A likely qualification.

Fact is the UK has so little free speech that I think he gets drunk on the rhetoric and freedom to whinge here.

Metron2267

Quote from: Shoveler on May 21, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
Sessions has been around long enough to have skeletons in the closet and acquaintances who are aware of them.  Self preservation, he doesn't want to caught in the pipe draining the swamp.

He done seen what happened to Roy Moore, eh?


starrmtn001

https://youtu.be/T69EgqBXGAU

Turley: Sessions’ Appointing Utah Federal Prosecutor Much Better for Trump than 2nd Special Counsel.

WASHINGTON, DC â€" Professor Jonathan Turley, a top national legal expert on government investigations, commented on Thursday about Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ decision to bring in U.S. Attorney John Huber. Turley called it “brilliant”to combine all the powers of the U.S. Department of Justice’s inspector general with a prosecutor who can bring charges, seek indictments, and get results for President Trump far more quickly than a second special counsel.

Sessions informed Congress in his letter that all the matters recommended for investigation by Goodlatte, Gowdy, and Grassley are “fully within the scope of [Huber’s] existing mandate.” He also informed the chairmen that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who is working with Huber, has a staff of 470 investigators, giving Huber access to enormous investigative firepower that far exceeds the staff of any special counsel.

That point is critical because as Sessions’ March 29 letter explains, the inspector general’s jurisdiction to conduct civil and criminal investigations includes “actions taken by former employees after they have left government service.” Then Huber can act on any of those matters.

As a U.S. attorney, Huber has full authority to empanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges. A grand jury can be empaneled anywhere, which means that it could be a group of citizens from deep-red Utah â€" in the heart of Trump country â€" instead of the D.C. Swamp that decides whether to hand down indictments for felony prosecution.

“The Inspector General’s jurisdiction extends not only to allegations of legal violations, but also to allegations that Department employees violated established practices as well,” Sessions added in his letter, which means that the IG’s report can hold people accountable even for actions that do not violate a specific statute.

“I think [Sessions] did the right thing here,” said Turley. “I think the president should listen to General Sessions on this one.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/31/turley-sessions-using-utah-federal-prosecutor-much-better-trump-2nd-special-counsel/


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 18, 2018, 01:10:49 PM
Those are some good points.  It doesn't surprise me that California has more petty laws than Britain.  I was mainly talking about people having the right to protect themselves and their property. It seems like that right was paramount as a result of the Glorious Revolution and you have basically surrendered that right. 

Plus more and more cameras everywhere.  Watching what people say and do. Very 1984. It's too much.

Man, enough of your political rhetoric! Can't we all just get along?! :P

Quote from: StarrMountain on May 22, 2018, 12:54:43 PM
... “I think [Sessions] did the right thing here,” said Turley. “I think the president should listen to General Sessions on this one.”...

It remains to be seen whether the American people can trust Jeff ''Dead Ass'' Sessions going forward.  We'll see whether this will be a real investigation or a pretend investigation created to distract those calling for one.

And, ''General'' Sessions?  Did he enlist recently?


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