President Donald J. Trump

[Jackstar]

(Between January and November 2017)

Oh
it's fucking nothing

Let's get back to something important, like Benghazi. Fuck off first.

[=Schlyder=]

LOL so much winning.

[Kidnostad3]

The cat's out of the bag now, and there's a difference between how you should act once a country has nuclear weapons and while they're visibly trying to acquire them. NK has achieved their long stated (ie since the 60s) goal of developing nukes despite all the sanctions, domestic issues, and efforts to stop them so it's not as though they're going to easily (if ever) give them up. So why is it unreasonable to encourage them to now shift the resources used on their nuclear weapons to less destructive areas?

Also I should point out that encouraging development of peaceful usage of nuclear energy (eg building nuclear reactors to keep their people warm) is one of the core tenets of the Non Proliferation Treaty. North Korea was a party to this treaty until 2003 and Iran still is.

How well has that policy worked out?   Apparently you and I have a different understanding of the concept of nuclear nonproliferation.  My understanding is that one of it’s fundamental aims is to prevent dangerous regimes from getting nuclear weapons (beyond those who already have them.)  The Iran deal did not do that.  In fact it pretty much guaranteed that Iran will have a deliverable nuclear weapon in 2025.  Moreover, Iran sits on one of the worlds largest oil reserves.  The idea that it needs nuclear reactors to satisfy it’s energy needs is laughable. 

[Dr. MD MD]

Good to see the old Trump thread is continuing swimmingly in my absence. Carry on patriots...and pud!

[Kidnostad3]

Why wouldn't anyone believe it? He calls the fat kid in NK honourable (Who has launched missiles) and tears up an agreement with Iran that even Pompeo said was keeping their side of the bargain..I wonder if his cult will be so happy when gas prices go up as a result?  If Trump decided this afternoon that he wanted the Whitehouse painted bright red with green stripes it wouldn't surprise me.

He said he has been acting honorably in recent negotiations.  Stop listening to the Stormy Daniels narrative and get the facts. 


OBTW, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN...
Liberals have lost the right to use the word “hypocrite.” 

[PB the Deplorable]

Iran has never been a Westernised democracy you muppet. Trump has pulled out because he didn't sign it in the first place, he has no idea what the deal was, have you ever heard him explain why he doesn't like it? No. Because he isn't interested. He just knows his name wasn't on it. The rest of the world thinks it was a pathway to long lasting Iranian non nuclear research, only Trump didn't.. Trump isn't a grown up though...

I gave you plenty of reasons.  This really isn't a head scratcher.

The question is what comes next.  This wasn't done in a vacuum.  We ought to follow up by doing everything we can to bring down this grotesque outlaw regime.  We can easily cut off oil exports, and that's a great place to start - well, after they tell us to stuff it when we give them 30 days to end their ICBM and nuclear weapons programs.

[PB the Deplorable]

Why wouldn't anyone believe it? He calls the fat kid in NK honourable (Who has launched missiles) and tears up an agreement with Iran that even Pompeo said was keeping their side of the bargain...

Yorkshire Pud.  Prefers slick politician non-speak to substance.  Somehow he's comforted by soft ambient appeasement, capitulation, and lies, and alarmed when it comes to actually addressing threats and problems.

Try looking at Trump's commentary and actions as negotiating tactics.  Learn to look at results instead of headlines and alarmism generated by the fake news media.  Who knows where that path might lead.

[PB the Deplorable]

So what's left of Obama's ''legacy''?

Eight wasted years, $10 trillion in debt, race relations rolled back 50 years, a ''progressive'' fascist takeover of the Democrat Party.  Those won't be nearly as easy to roll back as the rest of his ''accomplishments''

[Up All Night]

Canada has 'Mr. Dress-up' .....
US has the 'Orange Oaf' ......
A sad state of affairs.
I re-vile 'Mr. Dress-up ....
You, on the other hand, love having your nose up the 'Orange Oaf's' butt crack.
Your avatar reflects this ....

The world laughs at you ....
You giggle endlessly.

The President is *Not* an oaf.

[PB the Deplorable]

... The rest of the world thinks it was a pathway to long lasting Iranian non nuclear research, only Trump didn't.. Trump isn't a grown up though...

Did they really?  If that's the case, they're fools.  Fools with zero sense of history, or of the Iranian regime.

This was an unratified treaty.  Obama knew he couldn't get it ratified - because it was a terrible agreement - so he decided to call it a ''deal'', and said as such it didn't need to be ratified, then illegally presented it to the UN.  I'm surprised someone as obviously concerned about presidential honesty and the finer points of Constitutional law as you are missed all this.

If he was so certain it was beneficial, he should of presented it to the Senate for approval.  I don't really recall the Republicans standing up to much else he did, so why would he assume they'd start with this?  Especially if everyone - including ''the rest of the world'' -  believed it was what you said it is.  If so it's his fault for thumbing his nose at the Constitution (again), and going outside channels. 

In fact, if this is such a great deal, and the Iranians have every intention of complying, what's stopping them from continuing to do so now?  They got the cash and the sanctions removed upfront.  The only thing remaining is for them to do as they promised.  As you pointed out exhaustively, there are other signatories than just the US.  No one else is going to reimplement sanctions.  What's the big deal?  Assuming they're truly complying

[Up All Night]

He said he has been acting honorably in recent negotiations.  Stop listening to the Stormy Daniels narrative and get the facts. 


OBTW, SCHNEIDERMAN

When I see the words "Stormy Daniel"... I stop reading and go one to the next topic.

Thanks Mr. AG.... lots of MOR voters in the Mid-Terms will now see the Progressive Liberal facade for the hypocrisy that it is, and go with Trump, who is MAGA....

Small Business /Employment numbers are at Historic numbers, something you cucks might have missed while cumming to Stormy Daniels stories.

[albrecht]

He said he has been acting honorably in recent negotiations.  Stop listening to the Stormy Daniels narrative and get the facts. 


OBTW, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN...
Liberals have lost the right to use the word “hypocrite.”

One might note oddly similiar surnames etc involved in many of these Hollywood, finance, and political sex scandals/abuses and a certain political party. But I will leave Rense, or some such, to speculate.

[PB the Deplorable]

One might note oddly similiar surnames etc involved in many of these Hollywood, finance, and political sex scandals/abuses and a certain political party. But I will leave Rense, or some such, to speculate.

Not to mention attacking and undermining the country.

[ACE of CLUBS]

The President is *Not* an oaf.

Loaf ?

[Gd5150]

2 years of illegal wiretaps. 19 National security agencies. A half dozen govt investigations. The Mueller witch hunt with its 18 demokkkrat doners. 1000s in the media turning over every stone. Hundreds of millions spent.

And a half assed attorney for a porn star uncovers the so-called “smoking gun”?

$130k, no $500k, no 2 million. We’ll be generous and say 2 million. Cohen will need to do that 1,000 more times to equal what the Clinton “foundation” received in payments. Which have magically disappeared since she lost, imagine that.

Going to need a lot of porn star lawyers to get to the “troof”. Better call Bubba.

[albrecht]

Not to mention attacking and undermining the country.

Indeed. Though one might speculate as to whom, or what doctrines, much of this ilk holds allegiance? But I will let others do so, and just point out amazing coincidences....

[Taaroa]

How well has that policy worked out?   Apparently you and I have a different understanding of the concept of nuclear nonproliferation.  My understanding is that one of it’s fundamental aims is to prevent dangerous regimes from getting nuclear weapons (beyond those who already have them.)  The Iran deal did not do that.  In fact it pretty much guaranteed that Iran will have a deliverable nuclear weapon in 2025.  Moreover, Iran sits on one of the worlds largest oil reserves.  The idea that it needs nuclear reactors to satisfy it’s energy needs is laughable.

Nah it's a central pillar and known flaw of the treaty:

Article IV: 1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of this Treaty.

2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also co-operate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.

I was talking specifically about North Korea though, and have no strong feelings about the Iran deal in any way.

[Taaroa]

So what's left of Obama's ''legacy''?

He was the second black president.

[Up All Night]

2 years of illegal wiretaps. 19 National security agencies. A half dozen govt investigations. The Mueller witch hunt with its 18 demokkkrat doners. 1000s in the media turning over every stone. Hundreds of millions spent.

And a half assed attorney for a porn star uncovers the so-called “smoking gun”?

$130k, no $500k, no 2 million. We’ll be generous and say 2 million. Cohen will need to do that 1,000 more times to equal what the Clinton “foundation” received in payments. Which have magically disappeared since she lost, imagine that.

Going to need a lot of porn star lawyers to get to the “troof”. Better call Bubba.

Yes.... Clinton Foundation and/or Solyndra type $$

That's what the Liberal Fuck Media will not and cannot go down the path of....

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[Up All Night]

He was the second black president.

And Schneiderman apparently was the first black NY AG.

[Gd5150]

He was the second black president.

I miss the 70s.

[Yorkshire pud]

Did they really?  If that's the case, they're fools.  Fools with zero sense of history, or of the Iranian regime.

You're seriously suggesting Trump knows more than the rest of the world? Jesus H.

[Yorkshire pud]

2 years of illegal wiretaps. 19 National security agencies. A half dozen govt investigations. The Mueller witch hunt with its 18 demokkkrat doners. 1000s in the media turning over every stone. Hundreds of millions spent.

And a half assed attorney for a porn star uncovers the so-called “smoking gun”?

$130k, no $500k, no 2 million. We’ll be generous and say 2 million. Cohen will need to do that 1,000 more times to equal what the Clinton “foundation” received in payments. Which have magically disappeared since she lost, imagine that.

The only problem for Cohen (and Trump) is that Cohen is the one who is going to be facing charges...If he wasn't why did he plead the fifth? (Trump: "Only the mob plead the fifth"...Flynn: "Why plead the fifth unless they're guilty?")

[Yorkshire pud]

So what's left of Obama's ''legacy''?

Eight wasted years, $10 trillion in debt, race relations rolled back 50 years, a ''progressive'' fascist takeover of the Democrat Party.  Those won't be nearly as easy to roll back as the rest of his ''accomplishments''

So says the man who has slagged off Trump...  :

[Yorkshire pud]

I gave you plenty of reasons.  This really isn't a head scratcher.

The question is what comes next.  This wasn't done in a vacuum.  We ought to follow up by doing everything we can to bring down this grotesque outlaw regime.  We can easily cut off oil exports, and that's a great place to start - well, after they tell us to stuff it when we give them 30 days to end their ICBM and nuclear weapons programs.

Sure you can..You know don't you that all of the oil from neighbouring oil export countries (Including US allies) comes through the Straits of Hormuz? And all Iran has to do is mine the straits and effectively stop all tankers through there? And even if they don't, gas prices will rise anyway. Who do you think Trump will blame if that happens? Himself?

[Gd5150]

Go Pudofile go! Lmao!!!

[Yorkshire pud]

He said he has been acting honorably in recent negotiations.  Stop listening to the Stormy Daniels narrative and get the facts. 


OBTW, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN...
Liberals have lost the right to use the word “hypocrite.”

The big difference is that the Democratic party demanded Schneiderman's resignation straight away...and Al Frankin's...But the GOP got right behind child predator Roy Moore. And support a POTUS who wandered into changing rooms where teenage girls were in states of undress.. (By his own admission). The GOP don't mind sex or physical abusers as long as they're Republicans. Maybe Schneiderman should simply have stuck to his guns and denied it, isn't that the way to do it? Trump seems to subscribe to that method of deciding guilt/innocence.

[Yorkshire pud]

Go Pudofile go! Lmao!!!

Stay with your trains Greg.. and your scam links. 

[PB the Deplorable]

You're seriously suggesting Trump knows more than the rest of the world? Jesus H.

You mean the cowards and appeasers in the UN and EU?  DC Democrats who support anything and everythig that is bad for our country?

Some of these other countries are greedy pigs who are more interested in doing business with the Iranians than doing what's right, others are countries that are tyrants themselves and will always vote against US attempts support security and international law, others (Russia and China) are both.

[Yorkshire pud]

You mean the cowards and appeasers in the UN and EU?  DC Democrats who support anything and everythig that is bad for our country?

Some of these other countries are greedy pigs who are more interested in doing business with the Iranians than doing what's right, others are countries that are tyrants themselves and will always vote against US attempts support security and international law, others (Russia and China) are both.

Oh please, spare the sanctimony. It'll choke you. You think the Iraqi debacle was about restoring Iraq to the Iraqis? There were seminars in the US at the time where oil execs were telling the assembled that Iraq was rich for the taking.

As for tyrants...You think? Yet Trump congratulated Putin's election win. The fact that there was no valid opposition (Because Putin made it illegal and imprisoned any that tried) is lost on Trump.. He's also pretty cosy with the rulers of Turkey (Where the current President made his term indefinite), Philippines (What justice/free press?), Egypt, and any number of despots...