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#91
Random Topics / Re: Music
May 08, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
I agree with the whole Johnny Cash thing.  CW has never been my thing so I can't really criticize him or where he stands in the genre but I never noticed such a widespread love for him, outside the core CW audiance,  untill he died.  Suddenly it became cool to like him after that.  I bet when Willie Nelson dies I'll see the same thing.  All of a sudden people will be talking about him being a legend and icon but right now he's that guy who sings 'On the Road Again' to most people.

Kurt Cobain falls into this group also I think.  I was a little young when he died, 13 or 14 maybe?, but I never noticed much love for him or Nirvana outside grunge's core audiance untill his suicide.  Since then they've become a rock legend and a watershed moment in its history.  I think if Cobain were still alive he'd now be a has-been and footnote.

I get the same impression from people like Hendrix, Presley, and Lennon.  Since I wasn't there at the time I'll admit I can never know from experience but they all seem to be built up to be bigger and better than they really were.  Something about untimely deaths can elevate people to a pedestal they didn't earn I think.

That doesn't always happen though.  The first example of an exeption to this I can think of is Stevie Ray Vaughan.  I don't think his death did much to bolster his popularity despite the mountains of talent he had compared to the above mentioned people.  Almost any American can identify a photo of Elvis or Lennon but outside his core audiance most wouldn't recoginze Vaughan.

I think any status approaching Legend in the eyes of the main stream public is based more on coolness than talent or contributions.  Some legends deserve the title but probably earned it for the wrong reasons.

Of course this is all my opinion on what qualifies as good music and talent, and is purely a matter of taste.
#92
Random Topics / Re: Music
May 08, 2011, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: JustOneFix on May 07, 2011, 10:26:16 PM
Valid point. Same with Ramones, Nirvana, AC/DC (which absofuckinlutely fuckin sucks fucking ass), Iron Maiden, and Nine Inch Nails,etc etc. I have never understood what the big deal is with those bands. They all don't play shitty music, but none of it is really hard on worthy. Mass marketing!
#93
I was browsing through a bunch of hospital websites earlier today doing some job hunting near where I'm moving to.  One hospital in particular had a giant banner above all the job posting saying that they do nicotine testing prior to hiring anyone.  I thought it was a joke at first but nope, that's some real shit.

What it amounted to is if you pop hot for nicotine no job for you.  You're then put on a 90 day ban from applying for open positions.  I can't believe this is legal.  I guess it must be but WTF is that?  I can understand them not wanting you to smoke at work, or come to work stinking like a bar, but I can't go home and relax with a cigarette anymore?

This caused me to search around online to find out how long nicotine stays in your system.  For a daily smoker it looks like it can take a week or two of quitting to be in the clear for anyone that wants to know.  I imagine these type of rules will only become more common in the future.  Luckily out of the 20 or 25 hospital websites I looked at this was the only one with nicotine testing.  Or at least it was the only one who bluntly puts that on their website.

Can you imagine going home telling your family that you lost your job because you had a cigarette while out fishing last weekend?

I've been trying to think of other cases like this that exist.  By that I mean things that are legal to do but jobs won't hire you if you do them during your own time.  So far I'm coming up with nothing.
#94
Random Topics / Re: Bin Laden is Dead
May 04, 2011, 08:52:48 PM
I bet your point about children does play into this.  I thought it was strange that a helicopter crashed yet no one was hurt.  When I first heard that I said 'LIARS!'.  I guess it could happen though.
#95
I listened to the clip posted by HAL and all it sounds like he's saying is you can't kill off an ideology by taking out its leader or founder.  It's a dumb analogy but I don't see him saying 'Bin Laden is just like Jesus'.

What it shows to me is just his inability to come up with a strong argument.  Whenever I hear anyone making an analogy which includes either Jesus or Hitler that person's social skills credibility takes a nosedive in my eyes.  It's always a weak, clumsy comparison that will get people all fired up and the point being made is completely lost.  Not that Noory's social skills are held in high regard here.  I think you guys have been inadvertantly trolled by Noory.   ;D
#96
Quote from: onan on May 04, 2011, 01:16:59 AM

Actually MRI's are capable of incredible imaging of the entire body. There is a variation on an MRI called MEG (dont ask me what it stans for) magnoelctorazmatazz... It is an amazing test. They inject some kind of magnetic fluid into your blood, then direct a patient's thinking and can trace the magnetized fluid to specific areas of the brain within a milimeter. It is more complicated thanI explain, because it is well out of my area of understanding. But i

I work in medical imaging but hadn't heard of this MEG exam before.  Here's a photo of one I just found.



This kid looks jacked into the Matrix or something.  I'd be interested to see how the IV injection reacts in order to give the results.  Cool stuff.

#97
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Bumper Music
May 03, 2011, 05:16:58 PM
Quote from: Fly By Night on April 13, 2011, 07:20:43 PM
This really makes me think of Art...ladies and gentlemen, Jigsaw


Jigsaw - Sky High

I always thought that was a woman singing that song.  I'm disappointed now for some reason.  Still one of my favorite bumpers.
#98
Random Topics / Re: Bin Laden is Dead
May 02, 2011, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: onan on May 02, 2011, 06:46:59 PM
As to your point of the reasons people join the military. I was in the military just at the end of the "draft era". Sadly the same thing could be said then. What makes it even more troublesome is many find those that enlist as people that couldn't get a job anywhere else, or even worse beliefs.

What you say is true although public opinion has changed a bit since then.

http://economy.ocregister.com/2009/08/15/what-is-the-most-respected-job-in-america/15007/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/145043/nurses-top-honesty-ethics-list-11-year.aspx

Military officer ranks very high among respected professions now.  Note however that military enlisted, who do most of the dying, don't make the list.  I'm just surprised that any military is held in that high esteem.

I'll be sure to check out that Michal Moore movie.  I've seen most of his stuff but that one missed me.
#99
Random Topics / Re: Bin Laden is Dead
May 02, 2011, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: EvB on May 02, 2011, 05:32:53 PM
Silent,

Thanks for getting dirty.  That was a very insightful, well-presented post. Definitely thoughts to ponder.

Ev

Sure.  I hope what I'm about to say doesn't detract from my previous post but I have been active duty military for almost 6 years (1 month to go!).  I don't post that because I think that makes my opinons unique or of higher quality on the subject.  I've never been deployed but I'm in daily contact with guys who've been in the middle of the shit so I hear their stories.  Specificly the ones about their culture and how recruiting propaganda is done, it's almost unbelievable.  When put into context of the rural, secluded villages and towns of Afghanistan and Pakistan it makes sense.  These people don't get CNN or the internet.  Most are uneducated and have no idea what's really going on around them.  They get told America is the enemy, shown some victorious firefight video and are promised cash.  That's all it takes.

Now to rebuild my distrust of government reputation.  Being in the military has only served to inflame and harden my cynicism toward government and authority.  Very few join out of love of their country or some sense of duty.  It's usually preceeded by a long history of poor decisions which in the end make the military seem like a decent option.  Hollywood won't show you that either.  The military overall has been a positive experience on a personal and professional level.  I've learned a lot, just not much of what they intended to teach me.

Now don't go calling the cops thinking i'm a future McVeigh.  I'm actually a decent, harmless guy I promise!
#100
Quote from: onan on May 02, 2011, 12:08:53 PM
I have a computer connected to my tv. Would a Roku offer more options?

Prior to connecting a computer I bought a Logetech system to watch movies but was informed Hulu did not work with that system.

I also have a PC connected to my TV and love it.  I don't know anything about Roku but if there are benefits to it over a PC i'd be interested.

Having that PC with a nice bluetooth keyboard and mouse in the living room is very convienent.  I've even been able to stream live NHL games through it.  It's not HD like cable would be but the DIY streams have come a long ways.  I've been watching NHL playoffs for the past 3 years and every year the quality gets better and more reliable.  I looked into getting cable and buying the NHL season package but the prices are nuts considering hockey is the only reason I'd be paying for it.
#101
Random Topics / Re: Bin Laden is Dead
May 02, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: onan on May 02, 2011, 04:57:56 PM
  you obviously never had my mothers meatloaf.

Haha!  I actually LOL'd at that one.  Thanks, I needed that.   ;D
#102
Random Topics / Re: Bin Laden is Dead
May 02, 2011, 04:51:05 PM
On the subject of Bin Laden's sea burial I'd like to post another point of view.  I don't think it has anything to do with respect of religion or cultures, and I'm sure no one is fooled.  I bet no one on the USS Carl Vinson, in the rest of the military, or in the governtment as a whole wanted a respectful burial of Bin Laden of all people.

It is about reducing the level of martyrdom he will have.  Think about the things that have happened to US soldiers and contracters in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 10 years.  Which events caused the biggest reaction back in the states?  It's usually the videos and photographs of dead, burned US soldiers being dragged through the streets, beheadings of reporters, and POWs being abused that get the biggest reactions from what I've seen.  Apply that in reverse now to think about what would create even more recruits for al queda.  Bin Laden will be a martyr to some people no matter what but why exasberate that and create even more enemies.

Al queda and other groups of it's sort make heavy use of propaganda to fool ignorant people into joining their cause.  Even this 'proper burial' will be spun around to suit their needs but not to as much success it otherwise could be.

Think of it as a government looking out for its people.  They can't possibly stop every terrorist act that is planned in the future.  Some will be successful and more Americans will die.  Only now there's probably a few less people to watch, and maybe a few less who will go as far as succeeding.  You can call it fear if you want, a sense of fear might keep them on their toes enough to catch a few extras.  But they'll never stop them all which is where the fear becomes harder to criticize.

One last point to show this is all about martyrdom.  In the last 10 years the US has killed probably tens of thousands of muslims.  I doubt many, or any, recieved this proper muslim burial by US forces.  No one else had the celebrity of Bin Laden.

Now I feel dirty for spending four paragraphs defending the governments actions.
#103
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
May 01, 2011, 07:08:27 PM
So I'm listening to last nights show right now and this first hour guest seems crazy.  Did anyone else hear when he was trying to give out his social security number on the air?
#104
Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: C2C Song
April 30, 2011, 12:22:33 PM
I checked out the Myspace page for the heck of it.  It's not my kind of music but she has a nice voice.
#105
I've been in Kansas for over 4 years now and I've been really let down by the storms.  Not that I want to get hit by a tornado but something about a nasty storm gets my blood flowing.  The Wizard of Oz really got my hopes up too far I think.  There's been one storm, about two years ago now, that was so bad I got scared for a few minutes.  Otherwise this whole Kansas and tornado connection seems to be all media hype!
#106
Quote from: EvB on April 29, 2011, 11:49:11 AM
Hmmm - to me this is the kind of thing Ian would do - and do well.

I think if the topic stayed focused on evolution then you're right.  Any slips into the realm of the God Delusion or atheism would get ugly fast.  Their personalities would be like a match and gasoline.
#107
I think Dawkins with Ian would be a good show.  I could see Ian not wanting to do it because of the God Delusion book.  I seriously doubt Dawkins would want to himself.  He seems to stay within the academic enviornment mostly and probably would see CTC only serving to tarnish a reputation.

If you get around to reading that be sure to post your thoughts here.  Maybe reading it on your pain meds would make it even better.  ;D
#108
While not related to CTC at all I thought it might be fun to toss this topic out among all the thoughtful, well spoken people here.

I've been listening to the audiobook version of an older book by Dawkins called The Ancestor's Tale which reminded me of how much I liked The Greatest Show on Earth.  For those who havn't read this it's about the evidence of evolution and how and why it works the way it does.  I've been a long time subscriber to the idea of evolution but admittedly knew very little of the science behind it or what drives it.  It just made logical sense to me I guess.

Greatest Show had several of those 'ah haa!' moments of epiphany for me where suddenly I saw with a greater understanding how the world around me works.  What I thought about evolution prior to the book wasn't necessarily wrong but just not the whole picture.  More like a small piece of it.  Listening to the audiobook was a humbling experience for me.  The author (and his wife/girlfriend/BFF or something like that) does the reading and they do a pretty good job of it.  Dawkins seems to have a way of making something hugely complex easily understandable.  He's like the Michio Kaku of biology for me.

The memories of the book came about since I'm going through his other book now mentioned above.  The Ancestor's Tale so far isn't as captivating but still interesting.  It's basicly follows human ancectors back through time down to tiny water borne organisms.  At least I think that's where it's going, I havnt finished yet.

I felt the need to post here for two reasons.  One, it was one of those rare experiences for me.  I like to share it so maybe others can find something similar in it.  Two, I'm sure there's people here who are much better versed on the topic than myself.  If anyone else has read this or other books on the subject I'd love to hear your ideas and comparisons.

I also think he would make an awesome CTC guest but I'm sure neither side would ever agree to do it.
#109
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Quits Coast
April 12, 2011, 03:51:06 PM
Quote from: anagrammy on April 12, 2011, 01:15:40 PM
Silent....

No, you're right for sure.

EDDIE:  Point taken and good advice which will not go unheeded .  I guess a good STFU can put things in a different perspecitve sometimes.
#110
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Quits Coast
April 12, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: anagrammy on April 12, 2011, 10:10:31 AM
This is a TERRIBLE idea.  People posted what they did with the knowledge they had at the time. The desire of some like Silent to take back what he said leaves those of us who responded to what he or others said as incomprehensible, maybe even mean-spirited.

Instead of this thread being a complete and understandable history of the hilarious exploration and exploitation of Art Bell Quits, you're going to end up with random posts that seen apropos of nothing.

Fabric scraps instead of a quilt.  Not the same.

Anagrammy

Yeah I said I was done and here I am replying to a post...but I want to explain further why I feel as I do.  It was HAL's post that pushed my conscience over the line with a lot of other posts bordering on it.  Fort Rock has been foolish enough to leave a trail of personal information on a few websites which now will link to this one with a little google work.  I personally was able to find a lot out in 5 minutes of searching around but admittedly did not run across what HAL did.  This was a week or so ago.

Now why do I care?  A lot of employers will do background work before considering hiring.  In addition to that you have all kinds of personal reasons people might want to dig up dirt or find information on other people.  Yeah he should be more careful about what he's putting online and he put it in public domain to begin with.  But that doesn't mean we have the right to further disseminate this mans personal information and make it more accessable to internet snoopers.  This is about a mans reputation in real life, not posterity of some silly forum thread about Art Bell.

As far as I'm concerned the past 30 pages should be nuked and Fort Rock should happily walk away learning a few lessons about posting personal information online.  Personally, when this dawned on me, I wanted to remove my posts to clear my conscience of the matter.  I really don't care if you think it's all funny and entertaining.
#111
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Quits Coast
April 11, 2011, 09:12:50 PM
I removed my last post and wish I could remove older posts I've made regarding this FR debacle.  I don't care how full of crap he is, this lashing out on a personal level against him is too much.  I'm embarresed to have my name associated with the thread.  Things have went from funny and entertaining to downright nasty herd mentality bashing.  I'm done with the thread.
#112
Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Bob Lazar
April 11, 2011, 05:24:17 PM
I've heard a few of the old Lazar interviews and they were pretty good.  I get the impression from a few other posts here that Lazar was outed as a fake?  What's the story as far as his authenticity.
#113
Quote from: guildnavigator on April 11, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
With a slight southern drawl:

"...hello art...? is this art bell? I thought there'd be a screener"




"...is this art bell?"

Haha that's a good one.  I'd then make him turn off his fucking radio, TV, and oven before continuing with the interview.

I liked this question:

6) Have you ever feared for your life as a result of the show's content?

I'd probably follow that up with questions about government threats and things like that.
#114
Are there any really good shows on TV anymore?  I mean outside of the news, commentary, talk, and reality shows.  I'm talking about dramas or comedies mostly I guess.  I've mostly given up on television.  Specifically network television is out of the question, outside of the occasional sporting event.

I've been thinking for a while now and can only come up with two shows that currently run which interest me.  Those being Burn Notice and South Park.  I've really loved some of HBOs stuff in the past but I dont even know what they run these days.  Did I change or did TV become really lame?  I'll admit to not even watching much new for at least a few years now so maybe I'm missing something.  I don't have cable or anything but will buy DVD and Bluray sets or grab a sample off Demonoid.

Do you have a show that you absolutely cannot miss?  What was the last show or series you'd consider outstanding entertainment?
#115
Quote from: Marc Knight on March 17, 2011, 01:22:21 PM
Anyone notice how absolutely no imagination goes into movie titles anymore?  I think they believe people aren't smart enough to figure out what the movie is about unless the title is as generic and straightforward as possible.

Even worse to me are movie trailers and advertisements.  Most don't even try to give you any idea of what the movie is about.  It's mostly a montage of action scenes, skin, and one liners that are supposed to be funny, witty or cool.  The movie itself is often very different from what the trailers lead you to believe.  On the good side this helps me filter through bad movies since most good ones will have a trailer that explains the story or plot.
#116
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Bumper Music
April 08, 2011, 09:34:20 PM
Quote from: guildnavigator on April 08, 2011, 09:25:05 PM
Ray Lynch - "The Oh Of Pleasure" from the album Deep Breakfast

That was fast, thanks man.  On a side note I've always wondered what your name and avatar were all about.  But don't tell me since it would ruin the mystique i've built inside my head.   :D
#117
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Bumper Music
April 08, 2011, 09:19:16 PM
Does anyone know what the theme music from Dreamland is?  I always like that one.
#118
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Quits Coast
April 08, 2011, 09:10:39 PM
Quote from: YNOT on April 08, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
Do you have any idea when they put his name back on the show search drop down?  I tend to only look for Knapp or Art. Maybe I just used the "Somewhere in Time" and didn't pay attention.

I noticed it back on the dropdown list maybe 3 or 4 weeks ago.
#119
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Quits Coast
April 08, 2011, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: Michael V. on April 08, 2011, 08:06:46 PM
i keep returning to this thread to see FR's response.  nada.

Maybe his exclamation mark button is broken.
#120
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell Quits Coast
April 08, 2011, 11:58:59 AM
I just wanted to point out that Art Bell's name has returned to the host listing on the CTC website.  That's probably just for the archive, but it's there and has been back for a month or so.  Since this was one of the first clues about Art's departure I thought I'd bring it up.
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