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Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 18, 2018, 05:53:27 PM
You do realize that he didn't use an assault weapon?  He used a sawed-off shotgun and a .38. Neither are semi and automatics are heavily restricted.  No one can just go into a store and buy an automatic.

Ten deaths are too many. All the more reason to get rid of the semis, automatics. It could have been worse. These shooters are all basically suicidal, they can accomplish that with one bullet.

Quote from: Radio Activity on May 18, 2018, 11:06:00 AM
You can't fix stupid and you can't take away 2nd amendment rights. Now what? I suggest hardening the soft targets and stop advertising them with "Gun-Free Zone" signs.

You’re right about the futility of the signs. But as usual today in the U.S, people react with an either/or response to gun control. I wouldn’t suggest taking away people’s 2nd amendment rights, but a decent compromise would be getting rid of the semi & automatic assault weapons designed to kill a lot of people in the shortest amount of time.

A favorite weapon of the whacked out and paranoid, there is no logical reason to own these weapons of mass destruction other than compensation for a tiny dick, mass murder, or both. Self-protection can easily be accomplished with a handgun or shotgun. Besides, if the gubment is commin’  to knock down your door to take your hoard of weapons, it’s already too late for youâ€"one shot will do.

Quote from: WOTR on May 15, 2018, 01:07:38 AM
It's like a Trump inauguration.

Exactly. Thanks to him, now anyone can just make shit up and when questioned about the veracity of their claims, they say, ‘That’s what I heard, [insert name]* can explain it.’


* “If you do not believe me you can get the stats from Katie Kamara and she deals with all the affiliates of LNM Radio Network.  I am just a Talk Show Host, I don't do affiliate relations.” - Heather Wade

What Heather thinks when she claims “over a million listeners”....




Heather’s actual listeners...

Y’all seem rather obsessed over Heather quitting MITD, even though most at BG didn’t listen to her show. I think it’s actually Art’s qutting that’s still pissing you off. And now that he’s dead we must face the reality he won’t be doing any fill-ins like he teased. 

All is not lost. Art lives in perpetuity through his replays

Quote from: ShayP on April 30, 2018, 11:26:42 PM
So aside from all the bullshit.  What will Heather now do for a job?  What discernible skills does she have to carry on in her new career?

I hear coal mining jobs are coming back.

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on April 26, 2018, 09:30:35 PM
I get that, but it's been suggested that's why he quit the show and that's why he didn't do the promised guest host slots - guest slots that have been teased right up to this month.  One week he's saying he's he'll fill in for her if she gets arrested at Area 51, the next week he's dead of COPD?

It doesn't really add up.

You don’t know that. Until the autopsy results are in it’s all assumptions.

COPD is typically not a singular disease, especially in the older population. Because the heart and lungs work in tandem, it’s not unusual for COPD patients to have heart conditions such as A Fib, CHF (heart failure), and there is some evidence it’s linked to sudden cardiac death. With the increased work of breathing, COPD patients often have rapid heart rates, further exacerbated by the meds used to treat the condition (inhaled bronchodilators).

http://www.webmd.com/lung/copd/news/20150429/copd-tied-to-raised-risk-for-sudden-cardiac-death

Quote from: Bonanza Pilot on April 24, 2018, 08:55:29 PM
No. I just stumbled upon that pasta and thought it was appropriate.

Served with word salad?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on April 24, 2018, 11:22:33 AM

Funny, I don't need one and feel safe. And as I said elsewhere, only 25% of the US population have 100% of the civilian held firearms. Another fun fact: If you own a gun, you're over four times more likely to be shot with it than if you were unarmed in the first place. But back to the reason for the 2nd amdt. It wasn't written for what you suggest in your first sentence. The laughs would be hollow watching the 25% form themselves into a well armed militia, they'd not only be a danger to themselves but everyone else too.   :-

Hi there Mr. Pud!

‘mericans well-armed militia would be better protected from threats of death if they traded their AR 15s for an automatic cardiac defibrillator.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKYEvngo0Xc

http://savannaharsenal.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/10426710_297829317061296_5299636756663508946_n.jpg

This is so sweet. Sincere, heartfelt condolences for Art from Airyn’s family in the Philippines, who clearly loved him. Too bad these type of sentiments have been eclipsed by the selfish ongoing drama of Art’s so-called friend.

From May Ann Ruiz -
No exact words to say goodbye Art Bell.
In behalf of our family i just want to thank you for so many reason. Thank u for loving my sister and u took good care of her and for giving asia and alex. I know this is so hard to accept especially to asia, alex and Airyn Bell, be a guiding star to them always. We love u art and goodbye......rest in peace.....

To airyn's friends thank u so much for helping and comforting her on the saddest moment of her life...

#philippinesfamily
#hearbreaking
#goodbyebrother

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 23, 2018, 01:09:18 AM
You keep deflecting. Firearm deaths are trivial compared to the amount caused by alcohol and tobacco. They are trivial when compared to the deaths and injuries caused by illegal aliens.

Trivial? Based on what data?

On second thought, don’t bother offering data. Just have another drink. Cheers! 🍸

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 23, 2018, 12:44:37 AM
We should build the wall, deport all illegal aliens, outlaw alcohol and tobacco and then recalibrate.

There is nothing in the bill of rights that says you have a right to alcohol or tobacco.

Why study anything if you aren’t going to do anything with the results?

You must be joking.

But if not, try googling Germ Theory for just one early example of a “study” that changed the practice of medicine forever.

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 22, 2018, 10:21:04 PM
Because we all know that outlawing alcohol and tobacco, the two biggest threats to a human’s health, has been so effective in showing the government truly relies on CDC studies to tackle the root of the problem.

Oh wait. They fund the studies, year after year, and still don’t do anything? 

How many people die from gunshot wounds compared to lung cancer, pancreatitis, cirrhosis, mouth, throat and stomach/colon cancers and drunk driving?

Who said anything about “outlawing” and “banning”? Your words. You seem to have a problem comprehending the idea of established scientific norms for research into disease morbidity and mortality. It’s a good thing medical researchers worldwide don’t base their conclusions on such simple-minded subjective opinions. 

This might help answer your burning questions about gun deaths in the U.S...

http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcause.html

Scroll down about halfway, click ‘submit request’ and a window will open showing the top ten causes of death in 2016 (the most recent data available)

In this new window you can click each square for detailed information on those causes of death. But at first glance you’ll see that that homicide (red), and suicide (green) are within the top ten causes of death across nearly all age groups, with firearms being the most popular method. There are additional firearm deaths included in the (blue), “Unintentional Injury” categories.

For an example, note the homicides by firearms in children aged 10-14 and you’ll see there were 95 deaths in this category. 160 children in this same age group died by firearm suicide, and another 23 deaths resulted from unintentional firearm injuries.

By comparison, 39 children aged 10-14 died of the Flu & Pneumonia.

Incidentally, suicide is now the 10th leading cause of death in all ages in the U.S., more than half of those by firearms.

Additionally, firearm injuries cost our healthcare system roughly $3 billion annually.
http://hub.jhu.edu/2017/10/04/gun-violence-cost-injury-study/

So you tell me, does gun violence represent a significant public health issue in the U.S., or should people like moosie and me just consider the issue job security?

Quote from: moosie on April 22, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
Ahh yes the location of the monthly Fri/Sat night meeting of the knife and gun club. The source of all GSWs in our universe. We also speculated that when volume went up you simply shot some of them yourselves to turf them to us. Nice to meet you.

PS Please, stop shooting people. or at least use a larger caliber so you can turf direct to the Coroner.

You know penetrating trauma belongs in the OR where highly-skilled professionals like you will save their lives. 

BTW, I don’t know why either of us are involved, since according to our government, gun violence is not a public health issue. If it were a real threat to our well-being, they’d fund the CDC to collect data and research on the issue, as they do with other causes of death and disability.

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 22, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
What’s the quickest, most effective  treatment for ED?

Asking for a friend.

Oh, ok...I wrote ED (Emergency Dept), you think ED (Erectile dysfunction)...

We dont see ED in the ED, as it's not an emergency, although I suppose sufferers of the condition might disagree. There are meds for that. Have your friend ask his doctor. But tell him to never take it with his nitroglycerin, or we will be seeing him in the ED.

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 22, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
What’s the quickest, most effective  treatment for ED?

Asking for a friend.

??

Quote from: moosie on April 22, 2018, 04:24:42 PM
Yes, from a surgical specialty, are you also in the medical profession? I agree the most likely suspect would be steroids used in COPD, although anti-androgens would be next on my index of suspicion. When you look at the pattern of fat distribution, although I can only extrapolate about the back of his neck, it makes me think corticosteroids. However Art was pro Cannabis and I'd prefer to think it was that.

I also agree he could be wearing a back brace based on the way he's sitting and the sharp delineation between abdomen and chest, similar to the effect you would see with an tight corset.

Yes, I’m in the ED. We like to cut to the chase, get treatment started right away, and where a quick medical assessment is appreciated. 

Quote from: moosie on April 22, 2018, 02:34:33 PM
LOL you guys are so funny and a bit scary.

You can really see the equal A/P diameters from the COPD sigh. I'd guess a B cup with a lot of side boob, is that Gynecomastia from Cannabis?

A medical professional? Thank you. I once tried to explain to the vaguely lovables here that Art’s barrel chest was likely a result of the physiological changes associated with COPD.

The gynecomastia could be caused by a variety of meds, including commonly prescribed calcium channel blockers, or proton pump inhibitors. Also, while the ‘pumped up’ chest with breast enlargement is seen in body builders taking anabolic steroids, could a similar effect be seen after long-term corticosteroid use for COPD?

And one more thought...Physiological changes aside, Art looks as if he could be wearing a back brace in that picture. Given his chronic back problems, it could be another possibility for the distortion seen in the photo.

Quote from: awguy on April 21, 2018, 06:46:29 PM
That's always been my biggest beef with LMH, she talks and talks and talks. A good interviewee knows to keep their answers brief and to let the host steer the direction of the conversation.

Ha. I think Art had LMH, Richard, and Whitley on when he needed a break. I imagine him surfing the web, going out for a smoke, chatting on the phone, etc. as they talked, and talked, and talked...

While most remember Art for paranormal topics, he was no one-trick pony. He exuded a genuine curiosity for just about any topic under the sun, and was uniquely adept at interviewing widely disparate guests from Michio Kaku, to Harlot the witch. From George Carlin, to some random anonymous guy in a phone booth.

Not long ago I heard a replay of Art’s interview with Eric Burdon. Art was clearly tickled to be interviewing a favorite artist of his. Though I haven't seen this one on the bumper music playlists, I’m pretty sure I remember Art playing it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lroU7apzma8

http://archive.org/details/EricBurdonArtBellShow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6sHXJmh91Y

Quote from: nooryisawesome on April 19, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
She should ask for a patreon or go fund me. A lot of podcast have them, some people on Facebook are telling her they want to help.

Someone at FB already offered her that. She said if they started one she would stop it. Something to the effect that she only wants money for the merits of a doing good show. In fact, the poor good folks at her fb page have made generous offers to her, including money, one-on-one counseling, etc, trying to help alleviate her suffering, but like a good martyr she’s refused everything (but the subscriptions).

I don't see people here hating on her, only those who find her very public ‘poor me’ meltdown a sad distraction for Art’s listeners who wish to honor him following his death.

Quote from: Morgus on April 19, 2018, 07:23:18 PM
From the revelations on Heather's Facebook page today apparently the number of monthly paying subscribers for MITD has been shrinking over her period as host, plus the monthly fee was reduced in half when she started hosting, and that is insufficient to pay for running the network.

In light of all this news, could her plan for the Area 51 invasion been an attempt to get publicity to increase subscriptions?

Not to worry! Briefly scrolling through the flowery responses of sympathy for Heather, I noticed several posters reassuring her they had just subscribed/re-subscribed to the show.

Quote from: Juan on April 19, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
What everyone seemed to forget is that good radio hosts have years of experience on stations almost no one listens to. They don’t start on top.

Excellent point. Also, in terrestrial radio, hosts and deejays were reularly axed if they didn’t bring in the listeners. Radio “personalities” experienced one of the highest rates of turnover of any profession. I guess if you took it personally, you’d move on to a career with more stability.

Quote from: Grifynne on April 19, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Right, but if she felt that she had the talent to do this, she could have built herself up and created her own legacy rather than riding on the coattails of Art Bell. Or took the existing show in her own direction (as Art stated he told her to do early on, if I recall correctly). Or, if she and Art really were that close, maybe he could have helped her advertise by telling his followers about what she was doing and how he supported it. He could have put links to her show on his Facebook page or wherever his fans would see it. He could have let her interview him to drum up listeners for her project. All of these things would have helped her without corralling her into being Art - assuming she had the talent to succeed. If she did have talent, pretending to be Art seems to have completely squelched it. It seems like the path she and Art chose was the worst path possible, at least where the show is concerned.

Precisely what I was thinking. She was naive to think she (or anyone) would come anywhere close to Art’s millions of listeners in his prime. Besides, Art was on AM radio, accessible to eveyone in the U.S. with a cheap radioâ€"for free, with advertisers providing the steady revenue that comes with a large audience. At podcasting, you have to be really spectacular to stand out from the crowded field, where any yahoo can podcast from mom’s basement. Art brought the majority of his Internet listeners from radio, as that medium moved away from terrestrial.

Art’s quiting episodes may have been driven by personal issues, but I think he lost his passion for broadcasting when he left the (real) airwaves.

I found George and Heather both lacking the passion and originality it takes for anyone to succeed in producing a show and making it captivating. Also, it always bothered me that both of them used Art’s bumper music, thunder, etc. “Coattails” indeed. I could never get used to hearing any voice but Art’s after The Chase, then the “Ride” intros. The lack of quality guests, and the poor interviewing skills of his replacements never pulled me in to listen to an entire show.

Quote from: FallenSeraph on April 17, 2018, 08:26:26 PM
Ugh I feel like crying right now. Up until yesterday there used to be a YouTube channel called Ghostly Matters with 12-hour binge videos of all of Art's best shows, including all the Ghost to Ghost shows, the GIS EVP shows, Paglini, Father Malachi, you name it.

My intention today was to use one of those websites out there to convert the above-mentioned into epically long mp3s. I just set up my laptop to get started and of course the channel has been killed. F U YouTube. I'm pretty devastated.

I know you guys suggested torrents but the last time I tried that, I got a bad one and it wiped out my whole computer. As in killed it dead.

WHERE CAN WE EVER LISTEN TO HIS CLASSIC SHOWS NOW? Hell, I'd PAY FOR THEM if the family wants to release them.

I'm so bummed. I hate myself for being such a PROCRASTINATOR. I meant to snag all those things yesterday.

I thought I saw Ghost 2 Ghost compilations at archive.org too. I’m busy, rarely at a computer to take on an entire torrent. But like YT, archive.org is good for phone quickies on the run. 🙂 Lots of other good stuff there also.

http://archive.org/search.php?query=art%20bell

Quote from: Taco Bell on April 16, 2018, 11:26:10 PM
Art knew a fraud when he heard one.

Unlike George, Art Bell was wise to avoid Alex Jones.

Jones is the lowest form of money-grubbing scum. His entire schtick is largely based on profiting from the pain and tragedy of others. He knows his low-brow audience will eat up whatever shit he serves, so he doesn't even bother trying to dress it up as legitimate information. Once a self-styled rebel and rogue iconoclast, he’s now a sad caricature of himself. Fortunately his gravy train has just about run out of steam.

Sandy Hook Parents Have Just Hit Alex Jones With Defamation Lawsuits

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5acf6a6de4b0ac383d74bfe1

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 16, 2018, 05:55:31 PM
The only one I can think of was a Noory guest.  The crocodile hunter, Steve Irwin.  Oh wait, John Mack.

Considering the bulk of Art’s interviews took place in the 90s, I would expect there have been a number of his guests who’ve died over the years. But if the topic is those who passed on under mysterious or controversial circumstances, that list is likely short.

Evelyn Paglini is one. I seem to remember some controversy, as folks said there was no record online of her death so maybe it didn’t happen. Also, many of Art’s guests predicted various dramatic ‘end of the world’ scenarios, where we’d all go together, such as Elizabeth Claire Prophet, who would later die of Alzheimer’s Disease.

While the subject matter these guests brought to Art’s show explored the inherent mystery of death; near-death, afterlife, etc., the fact that extraordinary folks (like Art) might die of a common, ordinary disease is a part of the mystery.

Perhaps something to consider following Art’s seemingly sudden passing, is the death of one of Art’s popular guests, Terence McKenna, who after being diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, had the time to ponder the subject on a deeply poignant level.

I always thought death would come on the freeway in a few horrifying moments, so you'd have no time to sort it out. Having months and months to look at it and think about it and talk to people and hear what they have to say, it's a kind of blessing. It's certainly an opportunity to grow up and get a grip and sort it all out. Just being told by an unsmiling guy in a white coat that you're going to be dead in four months definitely turns on the lights. ... It makes life rich and poignant. When it first happened, and I got these diagnoses, I could see the light of eternity, à la William Blake, shining through every leaf. I mean, a bug walking across the ground moved me to tears.

🌹🌹🌹

West of the Rockies...Late night road trips listening to Art...as one station faded out, we quickly tuned to another...KOMO, KOH, KGO, KNX, etc..(over 500 affiliates!)

One especially strange night I remember driving from Ely, NV on the “Lonliest Highway” (US 50) listening to Art interview this creepy woman who was an I AMer(?). It was pitch dark when we heard helicopters above us but could not see them, they had no lights! Theater of the mind and beyondâ€"an audio Twilight Zone.

Seamlessly, Art could scare me to death one minute and make me laugh the next. Listening to Art I learned to expect the unexpected. Edge of your seat stuff, I don't know how he did it night after night and maintain his genuine enthusiasm for Live radio. And when he dissapeared during a break, you wondered: did he go out on his deck for a smoke/toke and fall off cause the deck wasn’t there; glue his lips together; get shot at by a stalker???... Ah, I miss Art.

AM radio is now a wasteland, full of yammering idiots, it’s only good for baseball and local disasters. For me Art Bell represented the best (and the end) of an era.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 15, 2018, 12:07:56 AM
Yeah,  I've finally started crying about Art's death.  I was in a state of shock for the last 6 hours.  I cry for his kids who will be without a father for the rest of their lives.  I got aggravated with Art over his frequent retirements but still loved the guy.  No one was better than Bell when he was at the top of his game.  Anyway, it is nice to see so many coming to Bellgab to pay their respects.

Yes, it’s so sad especially for his little ones. Whether his passing was sudden or expected, they must be devastated. Bless their hearts.

On a lighter note, I think Art would be pleased to see BG honor him with his own death conspiracy thread