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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 10:43:52 AM
I know you're making the point he can bleat 'same old same old, poor me, they're picking on me'. But he's POTUS elect, not a seven year old in the playground, even though he acts like one.

It matters not one jot if Buzzfeed, CNN, Facebook, 4chan or whoever tipped their hand too soon. Its his reaction to it that is noticed. If he wants to play on the world stage, he should be behaving less like a petulant bully who had his face rubbed in the dog shit by a girl who said 'no more'.

I say 'should'; because he won't, he can't. He'll only be taken seriously as a vulnerable bully, not respected. He has holes in his armour now, lord help him after 6 months, if he gets that far.

Of course you do realize that most see what you deem juvinile behavior as Trump handing his enemies their asses and deservedly so.  On second thought, there's no way you could possibly see that because Trump doesn't fit your model for a politician and you're into making what you see as his flaws into a cause celeb.  I like to believe that when I have a visceral dislike for someone I'm not blinded to their strong points and achievements.  I believe that Sun-Tzu had something to say about that in The Art of War. 

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:07:11 AM
http://theweek.com/speedreads/672744/foxs-shepard-smith-defends-cnn-against-donald-trumps-belittling
Since anyone can claim stuff I knew a gal who worked at Fox News in NYC a while back and said the place was rife with sexism (stuff like hitting on them or leaving computers open to porn sites 'accidentally') and several of the hosts enjoyed the Bolivian Marching Powder too much and had anger issues with staff. I won't name names since I, unlike CNN etc, need to look for more sources than one report. But there have been lawsuits and some stuff made public of allegations. But no surprise that reporters defend their own. It is like the Bar associations where you need to almost kill your client to get a stiff censure, otherwise a slap on the wrist and don't do it it again.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 10:43:52 AM
I know you're making the point he can bleat 'same old same old, poor me, they're picking on me'. But he's POTUS elect, not a seven year old in the playground, even though he acts like one.

It matters not one jot if Buzzfeed, CNN, Facebook, 4chan or whoever tipped their hand too soon. Its his reaction to it that is noticed. If he wants to play on the world stage, he should be behaving less like a petulant bully who had his face rubbed in the dog shit by a girl who said 'no more'.

I say 'should'; because he won't, he can't. He'll only be taken seriously as a vulnerable bully, not respected. He has holes in his armour now, lord help him after 6 months, if he gets that far.

Poor Pud, your world order got dumped and you just can't seem to come to terms with it.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 12, 2017, 11:15:22 AM
Of course you do realize that most see what you deem juvinile behavior as Trump handing his enemies their asses and deservedly so.  On second thought, there's no way you could possibly see that because Trump doesn't fit your model for a politician and you're into making what you see as his flaws into a cause celeb. 

Not so much a 'model politician' but more 'not an adult.'
I am under no illusion that the press isn't controlled by "if the viewer/reader says 'wow', its news!" Murdoch is one such individual.

And unforunately, the 'wow' has overtaken and clouded real reporting. Let's not forget this story was sat on by the 'evil msm' for months. Not a sniff. And now, all that most of that same msm is reporting is the fact Trump was told in a two page synopsis last week, that the WH, IS, and most of congress were aware of a rumour flying round that may be damaging to him.

He should have thanked the media for their reluctance to say anything; but instead he goes on the attack and blames them and the IS for him being informed. How is it their fault?

Would Obama be given a pass if he'd launched into that response? Of course not, you'd have the Reps and Alex Jones types pretty much saying the rumours were true and that CNN had been trying to 'cover it up' because they'd sat on the story.

Trump plays the media, they know it, and to a point will let him do it in order to get a quote directly. But that will change when its realised he doesn't play even if they don't report things that they could put in the 'rumour column'.

It will be his undoing. He can't survive for ever on twatter.




Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 12, 2017, 11:30:15 AM
Poor Pud, your world order got dumped and you just can't seem to come to terms with it.

Oh, OUR world will be dumped. That will be a hell of a lot to come to terms with.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
I don't know what that means. I was born in 63 in the UK. Very little came out of the USSR so those that knew anything were few and far between.

Isn't that strange.  Kim Philby defected to the USSR and several other members of the Oxford Group got busted in 1963.  Nothing contemporaneous about that--ancient history. The fact that you had one elderly lady in your Country that remained a Soviet Agent until the Fall and wrote a book about it without repercussion demonstrates that your country is free of Marxist die-hards that have no influence on your politics at all. 




Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:46:43 AM
Oh, OUR world will be dumped. That will be a hell of a lot to come to terms with.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 12, 2017, 11:47:26 AM
Isn't that strange.  Kim Philby defected to the USSR and several other members of the Oxford Group got busted in 1963.  Nothing contemporaneous about that--ancient history. The fact that you had one elderly lady in your Country that remained a Soviet Agent until the Fall and wrote a book about it without repercussion demonstrates that your country is free of Marxist die-hards that have no influence on your politics at all.

Nicely extrapolated. They don't, not in any meaningful way, you're correct.



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 12, 2017, 11:55:16 AM
Exactly! Post after post of yours...totally meaningless.  :-\

You're slacking...queen....?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:57:43 AM
You're slacking...queen....?

That goes without saying. i'm sure everyone else is onto your MO now too.  ;)

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:07:11 AM
http://theweek.com/speedreads/672744/foxs-shepard-smith-defends-cnn-against-donald-trumps-belittling

I'd like to continue with this circular argument but I have pressing business to attend to.  I bought a liter jar of green olives and I have to extract the pimento out each olive before putting the jar on the pantry shelf.  (Those little red bastards will really fuck up a martini.)

I will leave you with this one comment:  Shepherd Smith is a tool.

norland2424

Yorkshire pud, bellgabs alex jones

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:46:43 AM
Oh, OUR world will be dumped. That will be a hell of a lot to come to terms with.

Like I told you before, what we had going for the last decade sucked donkey cock on all fronts. The world order, such as it was, was no longer cutting it. It should not surprise you that it got dumped. 

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 10:30:01 AM
Whether the video exists or not isn't important. He's once again shown his hand by trashing the IS of the US. He's said reluctantly that Russia are behind the cyber attacks. I can't really see how he can instill confidence with anyone; other than Putin, who can depend on Trump being way out of his depth when it comes to grown up stuff.

Seriously though, whenever I see this cuck posting I am positive that this is a  picture of him:


GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
Not so much a 'model politician' but more 'not an adult.'
I am under no illusion that the press isn't controlled by "if the viewer/reader says 'wow', its news!" Murdoch is one such individual.

And unforunately, the 'wow' has overtaken and clouded real reporting. Let's not forget this story was sat on by the 'evil msm' for months. Not a sniff. And now, all that most of that same msm is reporting is the fact Trump was told in a two page synopsis last week, that the WH, IS, and most of congress were aware of a rumour flying round that may be damaging to him.

He should have thanked the media for their reluctance to say anything; but instead he goes on the attack and blames them and the IS for him being informed. How is it their fault?

Would Obama be given a pass if he'd launched into that response? Of course not, you'd have the Reps and Alex Jones types pretty much saying the rumours were true and that CNN had been trying to 'cover it up' because they'd sat on the story.

Trump plays the media, they know it, and to a point will let him do it in order to get a quote directly. But that will change when its realised he doesn't play even if they don't report things that they could put in the 'rumour column'.

It will be his undoing. He can't survive for ever on twatter.

Yep. He will probably drop out of the primaries after New Hampshire.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on January 12, 2017, 12:05:16 PM
Seriously though, whenever I see this cuck posting I am positive that this is a  picture of him:



My tee shirt is lime green, not black. Dumbass.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 12, 2017, 12:02:54 PM
Like I told you before, what we had going for the last decade sucked donkey cock on all fronts. The world order, such as it was, was no longer cutting it. It should not surprise you that it got dumped.

I know why it was dumped, and not without good reason; but that's like saying we don't like swimming in shit, let's swim in vomit instead.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 12:24:21 PM
I know why it was dumped, and not without good reason; but that's like saying we don't like swimming in shit, let's swim in vomit instead.

You've predicted the future and convinced yourself of that, but again, literally all this guy has to do is favor the economy to be a resounding success. That will happen.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 12, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
You've predicted the future and convinced yourself of that, but again, literally all this guy has to do is favor the economy to be a resounding success. That will happen.

Not to pud and his ilk. If Trump's not going to make the world shit they'll devise a nefarious plan to make it shit and blame it on him. That's how committed to their ideology they are.  ;)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 12, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
Not to pud and his ilk. If Trump's not going to make the world shit they'll devise a nefarious plan to make it shit and blame it on him. That's how committed to their ideology they are.  ;)

'They' control you too. We will prevail, as 'they' have always done. You need to get the latest from AJ to fill you in on the latest that 'they' don't want you to know.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 12, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
Not to pud and his ilk. If Trump's not going to make the world shit they'll devise a nefarious plan to make it shit and blame it on him. That's how committed to their ideology they are.  ;)

It's literally a matter of waking up every morning wondering what new fake bullshit they've come up with to sling at Trump. The left is a fucking joke at this point.

norland2424

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 12:37:10 PM
'They' control you too. We will prevail, as 'they' have always done. You need to get the latest from AJ to fill you in on the latest that 'they' don't want you to know.

opsec please

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 12:37:10 PM
'They' control you too. We will prevail, as 'they' have always done. You need to get the latest from AJ to fill you in on the latest that 'they' don't want you to know.

You asked for it!  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_1qvy6qtVA

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I am under no illusion that the press isn't controlled by "if the viewer/reader says 'wow', its news!" Murdoch is one such individual.

And unforunately, the 'wow' has overtaken and clouded real reporting. Let's not forget this story was sat on by the 'evil msm' for months. Not a sniff. And now, all that most of that same msm is reporting is the fact Trump was told in a two page synopsis last week, that the WH, IS, and most of congress were aware of a rumour flying round that may be damaging to him.

The strongest indictment against the Buzzfeed documents is that they sat around, unsubstantiated, for several months at least, in an environment where the slightest corroboration would have been explosive.  I know there are some good reporters, but they're either lazy or they can tell by the tone of the writing what they are and what attention they deserve.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 12, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
You asked for it!  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_1qvy6qtVA


Fuck, I don't know how to break this to you; I'm not a Democrat nor can I be. Sorry.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 12, 2017, 12:38:26 PM
It's literally a matter of waking up every morning wondering what new fake bullshit they've come up with to sling at Trump. The left is a fucking joke at this point.


There wasn't a problem with the fake bullshit thrown at Clinton. And some took that seriously.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 12, 2017, 01:00:19 PM

Fuck, I don't know how to break this to you; I'm not a Democrat nor can I be. Sorry.

What does that have to do with anything?!  ??? ::)

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