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Quote from: BobGrau on September 27, 2012, 01:02:43 PM

It's not so much the running around shooting that worries me, more the fact that guns can be highly effective psychological weapons without even being loaded...

Exactly correct, we don't usually have to shoot these pukes when they come around looking for trouble or something to steal - just pull out a gun and they get the fuck out and don't come back.  They don't even have to see it, just rack that shotgun and they are out of your house before you can even come find them.

Quote from: Morgus on September 27, 2012, 01:28:34 AM
obviously because Noory watched the Andy Williams TV show and Christmas specials when he was a kid.
just like he watched Pat Boone's movie "Journey to the Center of the Earth" and has him on because of that.

And didn't George say he discuses the show with Ma Noory every night, and it's as if she's another 'Producer' for him? 

I guess we should be happy Engelbert Humperdinck isn't a regular.

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Quote from: The General on September 26, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
My contention is not that google is biased.  It is simply a non-biased way of seeing what people are saying in blogs, articles, news pieces, etc.  Think of it as taking a snap shot of the entire internet...

The term 'Extreme Right Wing' is used often by the 'mainstream media'.   I don't ever remember hearing the term 'Exteme Left Wing' used by them to identify anyone or any group.

Just another reason I call them the Phony Media.

Quote from: Ruteger on September 26, 2012, 05:58:22 PM
If the USAToday/NYTimes polls show Hussein ahead by 50 points, that gives me even more reason and desire to vote on Nov 6. Romney may lose, but I will sleep well at night, knowing I honored the Founding Fathers with an informed and responsible vote.

Dick Morris is right about things like campaign strategies, polls, and predictions more than most.  Over the years he has been very very good.  He's convinced Romney will win.  Here is yesterdays column.

I agree with what he says about Obama being under 50% and those undecides ultimately breaking for Romney - that is my experience reading polls over the years as well.  These people have seen Obama for 4 years, as we all have, and are not with him.   Add to that the media bias even in conducting polls.  And any Bradley effect there may be.

http://www.dickmorris.com/romney-pulls-ahead/

What will be really telling is which campaign starts to panic.  The internal polls conducted by each campaign are usually the most accurate - they are not made public, except sometimes bits are leaked for tactical reasons - and how campaigns behave or change behavior can be indicitive..

Quote from: Morgus on September 26, 2012, 02:12:47 PM
... Bill apparently spends all his time now calling into radio talk shows.

He keeps doing that hoping it will somehow impress a girl to become his girlfriend, but so far it hasn't worked and he still waiting to get his first girlfriend at age 62...

And there it is.  By now Bill has probably become and email pal of George's, exchanging tips and ideas and discussing celebs and models they'd like to date...

AC/DShe - If You Want Blood...

Quote from: onan on September 26, 2012, 04:24:51 AM
I find this tedious...

Well of course.  The Libs and the Left can make any claim - no matter how outrageous, no matter how untrue or absurd - they can call anyone that disagrees with them anythig they like - nothing is ever too low, or beyond the pale in any setting - and everyone just accepts it with no criticism whatsoever.   For example an otherwise normal person can be sitting in the lunchroom at work and out of the blue suggest we 'eat the rich', or suggest we abolish religion, or claim half the nation is racist, or that we should immediately adopt full on Marxism, and no one will bat an eye.  They can use the most abusive language possible, and it's always ok - then back to the discussion about purses and cosmetics or analysis of last nights ballgame..


But let someone say, print, or post someting that calls out the Democrats... lookout!  Because the Ds are, you know, well meaning, and everyone else is evil.

Quote from: Ben Shockley on September 26, 2012, 06:08:10 AM
... What we have here is actually sensational fodder for the "Coast to Coast" part of the forum; specifically exobiology and alien visitations.

What we have in posts like those above is the very stealthy yet unmistakable announcement of alien life on Earth.   It has to be.   The beings writing that stuff can't be from the same planet as me...

I salute your attempts to be conciliatory and find common ground with these beings.   But I invite you to remember your sci-fi movies.   Remember what happened in the 1953 "War Of The Worlds" to the little party that initially approached the Martian craft carrying a white flag?   Remember "Independence Day" and what the alien said was their goal vis-a-vis humanity?

Okay, maybe it's not that bad.   Try "Alien Nation" or "District 9."   Forget rapprochement -- because the aliens are pretty clearly not interested in close, friendly relations and certainly not in assimilation to the surrounding civilization-- and just give these creatures a "reservation" where they can conduct their business according to their odd customs and perceptions.

But for gods' sake, keep 'em penned up good and tight!   Because, remember another movie-- the 1968 "Planet Of The Apes," when Cornelius read from the ancient scroll regarding "the beast, Man:"  "he will make a waste land of your home as well as his."   Applies to alien right-wingers too...

Yew left out George Noory's favorite  Twilight Zone episode 'To Serve Man'.  I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that it really wasn't a cookbook - that was just Rod Serling using literary license to make the story more exciting.

Quote from: The General on September 25, 2012, 11:46:34 PM
Liberalism and Leftism have become synonymous, much to the detriment of our society.  But these terms used to mean very different things.  It confuses a great many of those that continue to vote Democrat, thinking that they are voting for the values of JFK, but they are unknowingly voting for the values of Marx.

The political left is the home of pure communism, socialism, theocracy, fascism, and other rights-violating systems of government.  In contrast, the classical liberal, in the example of someone like JFK, believed in capitalism, individual rights, the rule of law, limited government, private property, and laissez faire economics.

Over the last 50 years or so, the liberals of America's political power structure have taken a huge leftward shift.  The principles of the classical liberal were abandoned and replaced with leftist ideas like group rights, increased government, and redistribution of wealth.  These were ideas that no classical liberal would have ever embraced.

I personally believe that many well-meaning, self-proclaimed liberals are now voting for leftist ideals without their full understanding.  Obama is not a liberal.  He is a man of the left.  This is a new Democrat party.  Mitt Romney is the liberal in this race.

I would agree with this.

The definitions have moved over the years.  Thomas Jefferson was the classic Liberal.  He would be sick and disgusted at what passes for 'Liberal' today.

I personally think of modern day Liberals as well meaning folks that truly believe the Government is the best way to effectively to solve problems and that if we just could get the right people into office, society could be made to run much smoother through higher taxes, more programs, and goodwill.  They think that by reaching out to criminals and people that hate us (the Moslems are the current flavor of the day), we can convince them of our good intentions and we can then all live in harmony.  They will try to appease anyone threatening, demanding, or just claiming to be a 'victim', claim to feel 'uncomfortable' or 'offended'.  None of this tends to work, it mostly wastes money and emboldens the agressive.  So, well meaning but completely deluded people.  These people consider others to be 'bigots', 'greedy', 'unenlightened', and 'stupid'.

I believe the Leftists to be completely different.  Anti-American, anti-Capitalism, anti-Fredom and Liberty, full of hate and bile, these people do not mean well at all.  They are the ones burning flags, screaming obscenities, they are the protesters that end up burning, rioting, looting.  They use our Constitution against us while trashing it.  They lie and are way over the top in their accusations and commentary.  Like termites they will do everything in their power to erode our society, our economy, our governemt.  They support our enemies and slander our friends abroad.  They stir up class warfare and race hatred.  Their goal is complete control and absolute power.  There really aren't that many true Leftists, maybe 8, 10, 15% of the population, and most of them are the off-balance and malicious and don't realize or care who they are working for and what it is they are working toward.  Many focus on just certain aspects of our society and country to attack, although they all support each other.

The Liberal, being deluded, confused, and easily led is easy prey for the Leftist.  The Leftist, knowing they can never gain power by themselves, wrap themselves in the words and ideals of the Liberal - peace, harmony, equality, liberty, making things better.  Dare I say Hope, Change, and Bringing Us All Together.  They sure don't mind more taxes, regulations, restrictions, and sell this to the Libs on terms the Libs enjoy hearing and will support. 

Historically, when the Left acheives power, they murder their former allies - the Liberals - first, so as to not share power.  Think of Occupy - fitting the above description of Leftism perfectly, they speak in terms the Liberals like to hear and have sucked many into supporting them and even speaking on their behalf.  They make no demands, so there are no goals, because it's not about working with others towards solutions.  They pretend to have no leaders, and combined with no demands they made if difficult for opponents to show them for who and what they are.  Claiming no goals or leaders, there is nothing to be achieved except confusion, chaos, and distraction.   

Think also of the Jihadis.  It is no coincidence the Left seems to be currently in league with them, supporting Hamas, supporting the Brotherhood, constantly attacking Israel with propaganda.  Look at how closely aligned the Obama administration is to radical Islamists taking power in various countries during the 'Arab Spring' - certainly Egypt, a very important country that is home of half of all Arabs.  Last weeks uprisings and the administrations handling of it should have been pretty convincing.

In warfare, there is power and and there is will.  The side with the power does not necessarily win if the side with less or little power has more will.  The North Vietnamese had the will and the US had the power but ultimately not the will.  The Islamic Jihadis have the will.  The Left has the will.  They both appear weak, but with the amount of will they have, they are not.

Quote from: ziznak on September 25, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
I fear subversion by the Muslim Bruthas about as much as I fear getting smoked while crossing the street..

We have one of their operatives advising Hilary on Arab affairs, we've got them walking in the front door of the White House visiting Obama, they're all thru the Pentagon and the military, we've got piles of trash along the Mexican border from illegal aliens and plenty of it is in Arabic, we've got the Phony Media and government officials at all levels - from school districts to the President - bowing to Islam and Sharia, we have immigrants and students from Islamic countries flowing in - think any of them are plants?.  What's to worry about.

Quote from: Zircon on September 25, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
Oh hell yeah. Plus Oregon seems to be full of depressed and/or angry people. went down to Eugene one time and found a lot of depressed kids sitting on benches, panhandling, stoned and "depleted" looking. Beautiful little city with the University of Oregon campus so tucked away. Quiet. Kids acted post-apocalyptic.

So, the young folks in Beaverton, Corvallis have the same arrogance as Seattle? I think Portland is a "Seattle Wanna be". No sales tax is nice but they make up for it somewhere else. Are you living in Portland now?

I live in the SF Bay Area.  Grew up in cental Wa State.  Seattle is an SF wannabe.

Bring on al-Qaeda, I've got sumpthin' fer 'em

Quote from: Ruteger on September 25, 2012, 06:34:24 PM
Hussein doesn't frighten me - I fear the American Public. If they are willing to give this man another 4 years after witnessing the last 4 years - then we are doomed. America is finished. No going back. This is the Fall of the Roman Empire. The Shining City on a Hill - it's Light extinguished.


I keep hoping and praying that November 2010 mid-elections were not a fluke. I still have hope the American People will do the right thing.


God help our Great Nation.

You know when I knew it was over?  When Ronald Reagan couldn't fix the spending and entitlements in 8 years, and Bush I got elected and tried to show everyone he wasn't like Reagan instead of keeping the revolution going. 

So basically this is mostly about keeping afloat as long as possible.  But if the Tea Party (the Establishment Rs are obviously incapable of doing anything constructive) can demonstrate to a certain portion the Black, Asian, and Latin communities that they are actually Conservatives too, we can still turn this around.  Need to make the case and take it directly to them and not have the message filtered thru the Phony Media.  The Left has had a 50 year Long March through our institutions - the bureaucracy, schools, universities, the media, and it would take years to take them back, but it is doable

Quote from: The General on September 25, 2012, 06:23:53 PM
No, Noory could not be more irrelevant.  Oh, you meant Jimmy Stewart. 

The Jimmy Stewart impression is the 'training wheels' of comedy.  If Noory did stand up comedy, he'd need a trunk full of props to deliver his knock-knock jokes.  He could open up for Carrot Top and Michael Richards.  Noory is the undisputed king of late night irrelevance.

George is quite the cut-up around the office.  Everyone loves his jokes, stories, impressions, and especially his singing.

'Geesh', he'll say, a little self consciously, 'jus' part uv my job, I do uruuhf, er, eight oars-uh  show prep ev-ry day, an' this is, ah, part uv that.  An' yuh know, fam-lee is impotent, an' yewer like my fam-lee a-rund here'.

Quote from: EgoFartSnooryBoy on September 25, 2012, 01:30:54 PM
dont have a green card

We have possibly 30 million people that don't have green cards here.  They couldn't even come into the country legally.  Just an idea.

Onan - heh, hahaha

Quote from: Zircon on September 25, 2012, 02:02:06 PM
... My experiences were largely in Seattle - the land of arrogance, conceit and geographical/class bigotry...

OMG yes.  Portland Oregon too. 

Glen Beck - never listened or watched a single time, don't even know what his voice sounds like. 

Quote from: MV on September 25, 2012, 04:50:43 PM
obama's economic policies largely reflect his philosophies which were articulated during the campaign, and people voted for him anyway...

Everyone was warned that he was a Marxist and a sympathizer of radical Islam, and we were scorned and called racists.  Now you are telling me he put that out there during the campaign for all to see?  From where I'm sitting, he's still hiding it and denying it.

There are always going to be something near 40% that will vote for the Ds regardless, and about the same for the Rs.   That's why 60% is considered a landslide.  The people that decide the elections are the others, mostly people that don't pay attention, don't really care, aren't interested.  For sure there are some true moderates that carefully weigh everything, think about who they think the 'best person' is and vote accordingly, but really - damn few.  And even those 'moderates' don't actually believe in anything much, or they wouldn't be 'moderates' in the first place.

Obama won that election on meaningless terms like 'Hope', 'Change', 'Bringing us all together', 'Rebuilding America'.   That's all crap because it invites everyone to project their own notions of what those terms mean onto the speaker, and then vote for that.  The candidate plays to each audience and tells them exactly what they want to hear, having the effect of reinforcing those projections.  When these demigods win elections that way, they later spell out more clearly what it was they 'meant' for everyone to hear, and then claim that's what people voted for. 

His actual economic policies have been to bailout a few big companies (and, specifically, unions and big donors), to hand out tons of money to Wall Street (again donors), ram this Obamacare bill down our throats, and try to bankrupt the country with $6 Trillion in additional debt.  Please don't tell me he articulated all that beforehand and that's what people voted for.  Don't tell me he was told us he was going to dump Israel, push over Arab regimes, and deliver them to the Brotherhood.  He didn't. 

Now I'm sure people can find all kinds of quotes from 2008 where he told various groups of radical supporters this stuff, but it certainly wasn't put out there for general consumption - just the opposite.

Quote from: MV on September 25, 2012, 04:50:43 PM
... i think if the republican party had supported ron paul, he could have easily defeated obama and the republicans would have been assured the white house.  all it required was a bit of risk taking, but they were such a collection of pussies that they had to rally behind the empty suit establishment shill.  the result?  4 more years.  i think paul was the only candidate who could have easily defeated obama.  i know some of you will disagree with that because you can't stand ron paul or libertarians for this or that reason, and that's fine... but nothing is going to get better without bold, unusual ideas and someone to implement them.  romney is neither bold nor unusual.

I consider myself some mix of Libertarian and Conservative, but I'm really whatever the Founding Fathers were.  I like a lot of what Ron Paul has to say.  I think he would have been a disaster because of the things I disagree with.  If he were to be elected, how would anything get done? - he would have no fellow members of his Libertarian Party to work with or steer bills through.  The Conservative Rs would have worked with him but that's all.  The problem with the Libertarians - other than lack of any party infastructure - is the inability to prioritize - they think getting rid of zoning laws, legalizing prostitution, and selling the National Parks is just as important as National Security and tax reform.

Job One is getting rid of Obama and his radicalism, voting for Ron Paul in Nov is not helping that.

Quote from: Zircon on September 25, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
... Biting but wholly accurate. An excellent post P*B...

I'm not sure any of that is especially biting, it's who Obama has chosen to be in life - Obama has hidden his past to the point we know who very few of his associates were (and nearly nothing about his activities).  Let's see, there are Frank Davis, Valerie Jarrett, and David Axelrod - all either known Commies or at the very least Red Diaper Babies, his closest friends and confidants seem to have been Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn - homegrown 1960s radical terrorists, 20 years in the church of the Rev Jeremiah Wright - Black Liberation Theologist and hater of America and Israel.  Rising through the ranks of the incredibly corrupt Chicago political machine.  I was just pointing that Obama gets off point and lets us know who he is every once in awhile.

Add all that to his Moslem upbringing, and who knows what all else he's hiding, and we have a very radical Marxist that disagrees with just about everything that made America great, and who is either incapable of recognizing the reality and threat of the Jihadi's such as the Moslem Brotherhood - or worse, does recognize it and is knowingly helping it along.  Everything he has said and done screams this out to those who will watch and listen. 

A few weeks ago he was talking about hard working Americans 'not building that', and that 'the private sector is doing just fine it's the government that's hurting'.  This week he's blaming a 3 month old video that no one ever heard of for 'spontaneously' causing riots and the murder of our ambassador, that it is some big coincidence it just happened to occur on the 9/11 anniversary, and that it wasn't at all related to jihadi terrorism.

Before that it was the Alinsky tactic of zeroing in on the target (Romney), and showering him with lies - felon, murderer, tax cheat, job exporter, vulture capitalist, and worst of all - he's 'rich'.

Quote from: Zircon on September 25, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
...  I think you said you worked or are currently working in the media itself.

Nope, just an interest in the world around me and a long time observer of how these ideas and events have been reported by our friends in the media, and the tactics they use. 

Fly to New York, find a shit job, a place to crash, and a band to play in

Quote from: bud2112 on September 25, 2012, 01:28:43 AM
People keep wondering if George reads this website. George or at least someone on staff does because one time I read something on here and asked George if it was true and his response was "they are idiots not true". Doubt he would call you guys idiots if he didn't know a little about what goes on here.

Was that a call you made to the show, or did you ask in person?

Quote from: Morgus on September 25, 2012, 01:56:54 AM
Better start calling in now to get in the queue, see if Noory allows a person to defend themself when attacked by name on the air by the guest...

"Thuh show iz-unt about yellin' an' screemin' "  - George

Quote from: astroguy on September 25, 2012, 02:04:38 AM
... He shows up as a grey question mark to me

Yah, that has to be George.  Does it droop a little?

Quote from: MV on September 24, 2012, 05:24:03 PM

i think you guys had better prepare yourselves for an obama win.  romney is such a weak candidate in so many ways.  i've already resigned myself to the fact that obama will be the president for another term.  doing so early will lessen the pain.

I've prepared myself in every election since 1984 that I wasn't going to get someone I liked, or that would even talk as if they were going to take the country in the direction it needed to go.  So no problem there.

There are 2 truisms at work here.  One is you can't beat somebody with nobody - and Romney is doing everything he can think of to show that he's a nobody.  Obama is also a nobody - but he didn't have to beat a sitting President last time, and this time he's at least the incumbent.

The second is that no incumbent this incompetent and just plain wrong on economic issues and foreign policy issues can win.  (See Jimmy Carter.  Hell, for that matter, see George Bush I, who did everything he could for 4 years to show he wasn't Reagan and ended up letting a brief recession we were actually out of on election day beat him).


So we have to wait and see.  A few more things I'd point out is that Obama is not leading 50-something % to 40-something %, he's reported to be leading 40-something % to 40-something %.  That means that the voters that know him and plan to vote for him are under 50%.  Historically when a sitting President is under 50% this late, those undecideds have tended to break for the challenger.

Second is the way the polls are skewed.  All polls are skewed.  The pollsters can only collect results from people actually at home answering the phone.  Certain groups are overrepresented in this - older retired folks, bored housewives, people on welfare or unemployment, people that work nights, others.  The pollsters know this and try to 'adjust' their results by giving additional weight to those groups they think were underrepresented in the actual collected results they got.  To do that they look back to earlier elections to see the actual historical turnout of various groups.  For example, in the 2008 election African Americans and students turned out in greater numbers than ever before.  Pollsters looking back to that are going to overweight these groups if their turnout is not as great this time around - which seems like a pretty good bet. 

A third item is the Phony Media.  These shills are a wholly owned subsidiary of the D Party, and are going to do everything they can to help Obama.  This includes trying to convince people that an Obama win is inevitable and therefore try to convince the easily led undecideds to vote with the 'winners', or to discourage people into just staying home because Romney is a losing cause.  Or that there is no harm in throwing their vote away on some third party.

We haven't even had the debates yet.  I'm thinking a guy used to interacting with smart experienced people in boardrooms may have an advantage over a guy that can't even talk without letting his mask slip to reveal his true self unless he has a teleprompter.

Bottom line - Romney may lose, Obama may win, but it's by no means assured.  Don't believe anything you hear from the D'crat media machine.

Quote from: Nebraska888 on September 24, 2012, 11:35:17 AM
The following was sent to Lisa Lyons, Tom, Dan, Shawn at Coast:



And, let it be known that again and again Mr. Knapp rules the Coast to Coast host seat.  There is no dispute!  Knapp juggles guests and callers with superhuman adeptness!  ...

Yah, but can Knapp sing, do sound effects, bad impressions?

Hey, the Grand Ayatollah Vahid Khorasani in Iran just announced Jesus was an illegitimate child, criticized the Pope, and claimed the Bible has been 'altered'. 

So I wouldn't venture outside for the next few weeks as Catholics and other Christians storm the embassies of Arab and Muslim nations, burn inner city liquor stores and magazine stands, and go on a general uncontrolled rampage.  I expect the rioting frenzy to last for several weeks, possibly until the next outrage.

Quote from: coaster on September 24, 2012, 03:09:56 PM
Care to explain why the hate on Nebraska? Even if I wasn't a fan, Id find it hard to hate them.

Oh, just because they were one of the Football Factories when I was growing up.  Don't they have the third most wins ever or something like that?   

I guess they aren't what they were since Osbourne left coaching in '97 - no more of the 'win at all costs' stuff... still, they barely made the list - nowhere near my distain for Texas and USC.

Quote from: The General on September 23, 2012, 11:11:04 AM
All of them.
Because I can.

I keep thinking my dad must be writing some of these posts, but no - he wouldn't have even clicked on the thread.  Not that any of these comments are 'wrong' of course. 

I do have to say - as a group sports fans seem to be, umm, overrepresented in the sub 100 end of the IQ spectrum... but then so do drivers, people using cell phones in public, shoppers, TV audiences,..

Quote from: McPhallus on September 24, 2012, 09:11:01 AM
This.

I mean, really, aren't they all the same at the end of the day? Overpaid, ego-driven, free agent fucks. I don't understand this pining over one team vs. another.

On Seinfeld, Jerry would do short nightclub bits in the beginning or end of the episode.  Here's one he did on this (of course it's funnier listening to it than reading it):


"Loyalty to any one sports team is pretty hard to justify. Because the players are always changing, the team can move to another city, you’re actually rooting for the clothes when you get right down to it.

You know what I mean, you are standing and cheering and yelling for your clothes to beat the clothes from another city. Fans will be so in love with a player but if he goes to another team, they boo him.

This is the same human being in a different shirt, they -hate- him now. Boo-oo! Different shirt!! Boo. "

Quote from: Zircon on September 24, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
... I continue to think a "national emergency" would make this administration ponder over the idea of at least delaying them. A potential World War breaking out in Iran/Israel/Iraq/Egypt/Libya/Syria would tend to disrupt the day-to-day activities - even political ones...

Do you mean delay the elections?

That would be a colossal miscalculation in our current highly charged environment, where each swing state 'undecided' voter is so precious.  Imagine the R's pounding Obama as a Third World Dictator Thug Wannabe every single day from the time the elections were postponed until they were restored (this is actually something the R's should be doing anyway, but that's another story).  People would swarm to the rescheduled polls in a massive turnout and O would be absolutely crushed.

If he is going to do that, he'd better cancel them completely.  Will his troops at Acorn, Occupy, TSA, and SEIU be ready for battle as of Nov 6?  How about Nov 2016?