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Started by gnooryblows, December 19, 2017, 05:47:32 PM

gnooryblows

voluntary relationships between men and women are not "wrong" regardless of whether they happen in a workplace or not. if a woman gives a blowjob for a 20 million dollar movie contract, she isn't a "victim", she is a cock gobbling shark in the waters of life who made out like a bandit. a simple exchange of goods and services cannot be legislated. this is government overreach. prostitution should be legal, just as consensual adult relationships in the workplace should be legal.


also, women are naturally attracted to power and prestige, therefore it is most often the WOMAN who is initiating the sexual relationship with their old fat and ugly bosses. they cannot help themselves


WOMEN ARE NOT VICTIMS! they are totally depraved sex pigs! despite what you probably think of me, i am an attractive male and have been weinsteined at my job at least twice by female managers! EVERY woman is this way! THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS! THEY LOVE THE FUCKING DICK, EVEN IF THEY ARE LESBIANS, LESBIANS ARE JUST WHORES WHO ARE TOO AFRAID OF PENISES TO ACCEPT THEM INTO THEIR LIVES. THEY HAVE DICKPHOBIA


THE REASON WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE MEN ARE NOT SOCIOPATHIC IN THE WAY WOMEN ARE, WE DO NOT REPORT SEXUAL ASSAULTS AGAINST US, WE DO NOT TRY TO RUIN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO US.


UNATTRACTIVE MEN erroneously believe that women are sexually pure and not depraved sex pigs, because they have not first hand seen women throwing themselves at them, begging the man to put it in her butts, saying "beat the shit out of me and treat me like im dogshit!" and all of the other stupid BS that women do in the bedroom.


except for 21stcenturyman, because he lets his woman finger him in his butthole.


WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A MORAL PANIC PEOPLE. YOU CANNOT LET FEMINISTS GET THEIR WAY ON THIS ISSUE. THEY HAVE TRICKED THE RIGHT-WING INTO TACITLY CONCEDING THEIR OLD "RAPE CULTURE" TALKING POINT! WAKE UP MEN! IF YOU BUY INTO THIS #METOO MOVEMENT THEN YOU ARE A RAGING BLUE-HAIRED FEMINIST OR AT THE VERY LEAST A RAGING BLUE-HAIRED FEMINIST ENABLER!

gnooryblows

what we are experiencing now is nothing more than a 21st century version of the salem witch trials. because secular progressivism is the new religion of the masses, the crime is no longer "witchcraft" or "collusion with satan" but rather "misogyny" and "sexual assault".


THESE ARE WITCH TRIALS, NOTHING MORE


THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE ACCUSED WITCHES AT LEAST GOT A TRIAL! IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING TRIED AND FOUND GUILTY IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINIONS, CAREERS AND LIVES RUINED, OVER NOTHING BUT A SIMPLE ACCUSATION


WAKE UP PEOPLE. YOU CANNOT CONDEMN THE SALEM WITCH TRIALS AND MOB MENTALITY WITHOUT SIMULTANEOUSLY CONDEMNING THE FAKE #METOO MOVEMENT

We already have a thread for this subject. Actually 2 but please post your observations here.


http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=11705.0

gnooryblows

Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 19, 2017, 05:51:26 PM
We already have a thread for this subject. Actually 2 but please post your observations here.


http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=11705.0


no, i saw that thread, that's nothing like what im talking about. totally separate things. that thread is an evil thread that is in condemnation of male sexuality and playing right into the feminist plan to demonize men and make everybody miserable. threads like that are exactly why threads like this one MUST exist. there is a MORAL OBLIGATION TO THE UNIVERSE AND THE HUMAN RACE FOR THREADS LIKE THIS ONE THAT I HAVE JUST POSTED TO EXIST and it is exactly because of the attitude of the people in that thread


Quote from: gnooryblows on December 19, 2017, 05:54:15 PM

no, i saw that thread, that's nothing like what im talking about. totally separate things. that thread is an evil thread that is in condemnation of male sexuality and playing right into the feminist plan to demonize men and make everybody miserable. threads like that are exactly why threads like this one MUST exist. there is a MORAL OBLIGATION TO THE UNIVERSE AND THE HUMAN RACE FOR THREADS LIKE THIS ONE THAT I HAVE JUST POSTED TO EXIST and it is exactly because of the attitude of the people in that thread


Maybe so but we have threads like that so we debate one side or the other.  More people will likely read your observations on that other thread.


Jojo

Quote from: gnooryblows on December 19, 2017, 05:47:32 PM
My Responses Are In Bold.
Your arguments are illogical and I will show it.  I showed your illogic last time.  I'm never gonna quit.  I have like-minded individuals and protegés who will continue, so you are not going to be treated with kid gloves.  Although, you could use a heaping dose of self-compassion because your points harm the lives of boys.  Although, If you are faking being a scumbag because you really ARE a scumbag, then PM me and we can fight it out friendly-like.

voluntary relationships between men and women are not "wrong" regardless of whether they happen in a workplace or not. if a woman gives a blowjob for a 20 million dollar movie contract, she isn't a "victim", she is a cock gobbling shark in the waters of life who made out like a bandit. (No, the act is coercive and would be extorted from her investment in her career and her career goals) simple exchange of goods and services cannot be legislated. (Fallatio or sex to gain employment is by no means a "simple" exchange, but is:
- A rip-off that can wreck marriages, families, and of course families with little boys
- A rip-off that spreads disease to husbands, wives, and embryos
-A rip-off that increases unwanted children, fatherless children, and abortion)
this is government overreach.(No, you are overreaching, to destroy the fabric of society, which is based on a family unit, however you define family, which includes the safety of babies, children, the disabled, aged, and sick), which prostitution should be legal, just as consensual adult relationships in the workplace should be legal (consentual adult relationships *are* legal in the workplace.  They might be against the policies of some companies, but they are legal.  As long as they are consentual, and not coercive.  Speaking of coercive, how would feel feel if your supervisor only gave you hours of employment on the weeks when you performed cunnilingus? And worse, only promoted men who were willing to go down on her!  Meanwhile, your girlfriend or wife and/or children do not thrive because you choose to honor your spouse... so all the real money at work only goes to single men, who are more willing to go down on her because they don't have girlfriends or families to betray.)


also, women are naturally attracted to power and prestige, therefore it is most often the WOMAN who is initiating the sexual relationship with their old fat and ugly bosses. they cannot help themselves (That is B.S.  And I've told you before, people CAN help themselves.  If people couldn't help themselves, every husband would be an adulterer who also has sex with his daughters and mother.)


WOMEN ARE NOT VICTIMS! they are totally depraved sex pigs! despite what you probably think of me, i am an attractive male and have been weinsteined at my job at least twice by female managers! EVERY woman is this way! (Don't be ridiculous. Many women do not have the hormones to be that way even if they wanted to.  They are conservatively ages 0-12 and 70-90 or, more liberally, ages 0-13 and 48-90...) THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS! THEY LOVE THE FUCKING DICK, EVEN IF THEY ARE LESBIANS (Lesbians like clitoral and g-spot orgasms.  It is not the fault of lesbians that manufacturers make primarily phallic sex toys), LESBIANS ARE JUST WHORES (Wrong again.  Lesbians are in loving, committed, monogamous relationships, as evidenced by their huge political success in legalizing marriage for lesbians,) WHO ARE TOO AFRAID OF PENISES TO ACCEPT THEM INTO THEIR LIVES. THEY HAVE DICKPHOBIA (You can't have it both ways.  It is illogical to say lesbians love dick while also saying lesbians have dickphobia.  Also, it has actually been scientifically proven that most women prefer clitoral orgasms, which pretty much leaves the penis out of the picture, unless perhaps it is not circumsized, at which point the loose skin located at the base of the erect shaft does provide clitoral stimulation.  Furthermore, many lesbians have been married, so that fear-factor thing you mention is not true.  Just look at the number of lesbians with children.  How do you think they got those children?  They were with men, long-term and unafraid.)


THE REASON WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE MEN ARE NOT SOCIOPATHIC IN THE WAY WOMEN ARE,  (Women are not sociopathic, as proven by the fact that most women sacrifice their careers and interests in order to be primary caretakers of children, the elderly, the sick, and the disabled.  I'm not saying I agree women should be such martyrs, but that is how it has been for a long time.)  WE DO NOT REPORT SEXUAL ASSAULTS AGAINST US  (For one thing, MANY rapes in general go unreported, of both sexes.  Second, men DO report rape.)


(Third, man raping a man does not cause:)
(Perineal injury)
(Death)
(Pregnancy)
(Beating beyond recognition)


(Frankly in some ways, it can be less of an overall damage to be a man raped by a woman than a woman raped by a man.)


(Fourth, there have been cases of men raping BOTH a lady AND her boyfriend, a fact you fail to consider.)
(You missed rape of man and boys, by man.)
(Along the same lines, you fail to consider gang rape.)
(And gang rape of MEN by MEN.)


we don't try to ruin the lives of people just because they are sexually attracted to us. (You are arguing apples and oranges.  Because... you equate assault with attraction when you say men don't report assaults because it is okay for women to be attracted.  Don't you understand that attraction is an inward feeling, while assualt is an outward infliction.)

UNATTRACTIVE MEN erroneously believe that women are sexually pure and not depraved sex pigs, because they have not first hand seen women throwing themselves at them, begging the man to put it in her butts (There isn't a woman alive who really does that, you idiot.) saying "beat the shit out of me and treat me like im dogshit!" and all of the other stupid BS that women do in the bedroom.(Based on your unrealistic sexual experiences, your new nickname is Virgin.  The b.s. you speak of is produced by men, for men, for porn purposes.  You are obviously not talking about the S/M community, or you wouldn't have generalized women.  Remember, the b.s. is from porn, not from real situations.  And porn is made by men, for men.  So what you see there is male-generated.)

except for 21stcenturyman, because he lets his woman finger him in his butthole.(Regardless of whether this is just rumor, it really doesn't matter because anyone who has read about male sexual pleasure knows that the experts, male and female, say that when done properly, many men love it.)


WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A MORAL PANIC PEOPLE. YOU CANNOT LET FEMINISTS GET THEIR WAY ON THIS ISSUE. (Its is not "feminists" reporting these crimes.) THEY HAVE TRICKED THE RIGHT-WING INTO TACITLY CONCEDING THEIR OLD "RAPE CULTURE" TALKING POINT! (The words "rape" and "talking point" should never be used in the same sentence.) WAKE UP MEN! IF YOU BUY INTO THIS #METOO MOVEMENT THEN YOU ARE A RAGING BLUE-HAIRED FEMINIST OR (Intelligent people do not discuss complex issues in terms of "either/or" derogatory name-calling.) AT THE VERY LEAST A RAGING BLUE-HAIRED FEMINIST ENABLER!

You are not going to get away with your illogical arguments that are designed for privileged, hormonal, callow 14-year old boys who have no concept of why and how society is structured to preserve civility toward families:
- To minimize venereal disease and death
- To minimize breeding retarded children (retarded people are easier to rape)
- To minimize disease to embryos and therefore children
- To minimize the number of unwanted children, foster children, orphans, and abortion.

Society is structured in family units, of whatever persuasion that family may be.  Society is also structured with single people who usually have extended family.  Employers know the value of family.  They know that if an employee has that social unit, they will be more dependable because they have a support network of family members to help out when there are illnesses, transportation challenges, or other things that might cause absenteeism.  Employers who only promote whores damage real families and the little boys in them.  Why should little Johnny not get new sports shoes just because his dad was passed over at work, since most of the hours and promotions were given to whores?


You are only thinking from the vantage point of a virgin, hormonal 14-year old with no healthy regard for anyone, not even himself.  Because if you had any compassion for your own self, you would realize:
-Your opinions damage the lives of male embryos through venereal disease, unwanted pregnancies, and abortion.
-Your opinions hurt little boys when they are born fatherless, or when their parents separate after one was traumatized by rape, or traumatized by illicit workplace infidelity.
-Your opinions hurt fathers, who may end up keeping diseased bastards that their wives accidently produce when coerced into sex for workplace promotion.
-Your beliefs hurt fathers who divorce over workplace infidelity.
-Your ideas hurt men and women working honestly to support their young sons and daughters, in a world where you say promotion should go to hot lips.


You, you, you are on the way to sheer depravity of mind.  Take a minute to use both sides of your brain and reason out the overall destructiveness in the opinions you stated.


gnooryblows

Quote from: Jojo on December 19, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
My Responses Are In Bold.[/size]Your arguments are illogical and I will show it.  I showed your illogic last time.  I'm never gonna quit.  I have like-minded individuals and protegés who will continue, so you are not going to be treated with kid gloves.  Although, you could use a heaping dose of self-compassion because your points harm the lives of boys.  Although, If you are faking being a scumbag because you really ARE a scumbag, then PM me and we can fight it out friendly-like.voluntary relationships between men and women are not "wrong" regardless of whether they happen in a workplace or not. if a woman gives a blowjob for a 20 million dollar movie contract, she isn't a "victim", she is a cock gobbling shark in the waters of life who made out like a bandit. (No, the act is coercive and would be extorted from her investment in her career and her career goals) simple exchange of goods and services cannot be legislated. [/size](Fallatio or sex to gain employment is by no means a "simple" exchange, but is:
- A rip-off that can wreck marriages, families, and of course families with little boys
- A rip-off that spreads disease to husbands, wives, and embryos
-A rip-off that increases unwanted children, fatherless children, and abortion)
[/size]this is government overreach.[/size](No, you are overreaching, to destroy the fabric of society, which is based on a family unit, however you define family, which includes the safety of babies, children, the disabled, aged, and sick)[/size], which prostitution should be legal, just as consensual adult relationships in the workplace should be legal [/size](consentual adult relationships *are* legal in the workplace.  They might be against the policies of some companies, but they are legal.  As long as they are consentual, and not coercive.  Speaking of coercive, how would feel feel if your supervisor only gave you hours of employment on the weeks when you performed cunnilingus? And worse, only promoted men who were willing to go down on her!  Meanwhile, your girlfriend or wife and/or children do not thrive because you choose to honor your spouse... so all the real money at work only goes to single men, who are more willing to go down on her because they don't have girlfriends or families to betray.)[/size]also, women are naturally attracted to power and prestige, therefore it is most often the WOMAN who is initiating the sexual relationship with their old fat and ugly bosses. they cannot help themselves (That is B.S.  And I've told you before, people CAN help themselves.  If people couldn't help themselves, every husband would be an adulterer who also has sex with his daughters and mother.)WOMEN ARE NOT VICTIMS! they are totally depraved sex pigs! despite what you probably think of me, i am an attractive male and have been weinsteined at my job at least twice by female managers! EVERY woman is this way! (Don't be ridiculous. Many women do not have the hormones to be that way even if they wanted to.  They are conservatively ages 0-12 and 70-90 or, more liberally, ages 0-13 and 48-90...) THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS! THEY LOVE THE FUCKING DICK, EVEN IF THEY ARE LESBIANS(Lesbians like clitoral and g-spot orgasms.  It is not the fault of lesbians that manufacturers make primarily phallic sex toys), LESBIANS ARE JUST WHORES [/size](Wrong again.  Lesbians are in loving, committed, monogamous relationships, as evidenced by their huge political success in legalizing marriage for lesbians,)[/size] WHO ARE TOO AFRAID OF PENISES TO ACCEPT THEM INTO THEIR LIVES. THEY HAVE DICKPHOBIA [/size](You can't have it both ways.  It is illogical to say lesbians love dick while also saying lesbians have dickphobia.  Also, it has actually been scientifically proven that most women prefer clitoral orgasms, which pretty much leaves the penis out of the picture, unless perhaps it is not circumsized, at which point the loose skin located at the base of the erect shaft does provide clitoral stimulation.  Furthermore, many lesbians have been married, so that fear-factor thing you mention is not true.  Just look at the number of lesbians with children.  How do you think they got those children?  They were with men, long-term and unafraid.)[/size]THE REASON WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE MEN ARE NOT SOCIOPATHIC IN THE WAY WOMEN ARE, (Women are not sociopathic, as proven by the fact that most women sacrifice their careers and interests in order to be primary caretakers of children, the elderly, the sick, and the disabled.  I'm not saying I agree women should be such martyrs, but that is how it has been for a long time.) WE DO NOT REPORT SEXUAL ASSAULTS AGAINST US  (For one thing, MANY rapes in general go unreported, of both sexes.  Second, men DO report rape.)


(Third, man raping a man does not cause:)
(Perineal injury)
(Death)
(Pregnancy)
(Beating beyond recognition)


(Frankly in some ways, it can be less of an overall damage to be a man raped by a woman than a woman raped by a man.)


(Fourth, there have been cases of men raping BOTH a lady AND her boyfriend, a fact you fail to consider.)[/size](You missed rape of man and boys, by man.)
(Along the same lines, you fail to consider gang rape.)
(And gang rape of MEN by MEN.)we don't try to ruin the lives of people just because they are sexually attracted to us. (You are arguing apples and oranges.  Because... you equate assault with attraction when you say men don't report assaults because it is okay for women to be attracted.  Don't you understand that attraction is an inward feeling, while assualt is an outward infliction.)UNATTRACTIVE MEN erroneously believe that women are sexually pure and not depraved sex pigs, because they have not first hand seen women throwing themselves at them, begging the man to put it in her butts (There isn't a woman alive who really does that, you idiot.) saying "beat the shit out of me and treat me like im dogshit!" and all of the other stupid BS that women do in the bedroom.(Based on your unrealistic sexual experiences, your new nickname is Virgin.  The b.s. you speak of is produced by men, for men, for porn purposes.  You are obviously not talking about the S/M community, or you wouldn't have generalized women.  Remember, the b.s. is from porn, not from real situations.  And porn is made by men, for men.  So what you see there is male-generated.)[/size]except for 21stcenturyman, because he lets his woman finger him in his butthole.(Regardless of whether this is just rumor, it really doesn't matter because anyone who has read about male sexual pleasure knows that the experts, male and female, say that when done properly, many men love it.)WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A MORAL PANIC PEOPLE. YOU CANNOT LET FEMINISTS GET THEIR WAY ON THIS ISSUE. (Its is not "feminists" reporting these crimes.) THEY HAVE TRICKED THE RIGHT-WING INTO TACITLY CONCEDING THEIR OLD "RAPE CULTURE" TALKING POINT! (The words "rape" and "talking point" should never be used in the same sentence.)[/size] WAKE UP MEN! IF YOU BUY INTO THIS #METOO MOVEMENT THEN YOU ARE A RAGING BLUE-HAIRED FEMINIST OR [/size](Intelligent people do not discuss complex issues in terms of "either/or" derogatory name-calling.)[/size] AT THE VERY LEAST A RAGING BLUE-HAIRED FEMINIST ENABLER![/size]

You are not going to get away with your illogical arguments that are designed for privileged, hormonal, callow 14-year old boys who have no concept of why and how society is structured to preserve civility toward families:
- To minimize venereal disease and death
- To minimize breeding retarded children (retarded people are easier to rape)
- To minimize disease to embryos and therefore children
- To minimize the number of unwanted children, foster children, orphans, and abortion.

Society is structured in family units, of whatever persuasion that family may be.  Society is also structured with single people who usually have extended family.  Employers know the value of family.  They know that if an employee has that social unit, they will be more dependable because they have a support network of family members to help out when there are illnesses, transportation challenges, or other things that might cause absenteeism.  Employers who only promote whores damage real families and the little boys in them.  Why should little Johnny not get new sports shoes just because his dad was passed over at work, since most of the hours and promotions were given to whores?


You are only thinking from the vantage point of a virgin, hormonal 14-year old with no healthy regard for anyone, not even himself.  Because if you had any compassion for your own self, you would realize:
-Your opinions damage the lives of male embryos through venereal disease, unwanted pregnancies, and abortion.
-Your opinions hurt little boys when they are born fatherless, or when their parents separate after one was traumatized by rape, or traumatized by illicit workplace infidelity.
-Your opinions hurt fathers, who may end up keeping diseased bastards that their wives accidently produce when coerced into sex for workplace promotion.
-Your beliefs hurt fathers who divorce over workplace infidelity.
-Your ideas hurt men and women working honestly to support their young sons and daughters, in a world where you say promotion should go to hot lips.


You, you, you are on the way to sheer depravity of mind.  Take a minute to use both sides of your brain and reason out the overall destructiveness in the opinions you stated.


yeah i didn't read all that. i started to and then just saw that you were just denying patently obvious facts about female sexuality, then i saw something about you basically saying that male on male rape isn't really a bad thing so i just stopped cuz this is a wall of stupidity

gnooryblows

Quote from: Swishypants on December 19, 2017, 09:19:27 PM
Fuck your problems! Fuck your wall of text.




i am the greatest human being on the planet earth and far superior to you as a man and in terms of penis size.

gnooryblows

Quote from: gnooryblows on December 19, 2017, 10:22:06 PM

yeah i didn't read all that. i started to and then just saw that you were just denying patently obvious facts about female sexuality, then i saw something about you basically saying that male on male rape isn't really a bad thing so i just stopped cuz this is a wall of stupidity


honestly jojo i mean were you really expecting me to sit and read your hundred pages of third wave feminist drivel? i'm happy to talk to you but not if you're going to write a novel worth of annotations into my comments, and esp not when its just empty "NO women aren't attracted to power!" and stupid stuff like that

heater

Quote from: gnooryblows on December 19, 2017, 10:23:41 PM

i am the greatest human being on the planet earth and far superior to you as a man and in terms of penis size.





Jojo

Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 19, 2017, 05:51:26 PM
We already have a thread for this subject. Actually 2 but please post your observations here.


http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=11705.0
There is one thing I actually agree with.  It is that in at least one case, the employer let the man go, publically ruining him, without actually releasing the allegations.  So, to me, that is defamation.  If a woman is willing to put her name kut there, then there is some substance to the rumor.  Or, maybe she doesn't want to be known, but the employer should at least give the rest of the sordid details, even if they leave out her name.


Otherwise, as in tne case of one celebrity at least, the allegations and dismissal are sheer defamation. 

Jojo

Quote from: gnooryblows on December 19, 2017, 10:26:13 PM

honestly jojo i mean were you really expecting me to sit and read your hundred pages of third wave feminist drivel? i'm happy to talk to you but not if you're going to write a novel worth of annotations into my comments, and esp not when its just empty "NO women aren't attracted to power!" and stupid stuff like that
I'm not surprised laziness is a trait of yours.  The reasoning is there.  Whether or not you use your intelligence to review your opinions is up to you.  God gave you a conscience but doesn't force you to use it.


As for your poor reading comprehension, I didn't qualify male rape on men, except to say you left out that category. 



gnooryblows

Quote from: Jojo on December 20, 2017, 01:10:20 AM
I'm not surprised laziness is a trait of yours.  The reasoning is there.  Whether or not you use your intelligence to review your opinions is up to you.  God gave you a conscience but doesn't force you to use it.


As for your poor reading comprehension, I didn't qualify male rape on men, except to say you left out that category. 



jojo it's not "laziness" when someone doesn't want to read some blue-haired third wave feminists long diatribe about their ideas about female sexuality and male sexuality and feminist rape ideas. you can write 1000 page reports, nobody is going to give a shit. everyone knows people like you are insane.


people like you are just too miserable with their own existences. you yourself are almost certainly incapable of finding a suitable mate, you so you have to convince yourself of all of this delusion so you can rationalize destroying the social relationships between men and women. basically it's the "if i can't be happy, then i will stop at nothing until NOBODY is happy" mentality. congrats, you're just like every other SJW on the planet.

paladin1991


Quote from: gnooryblows on December 19, 2017, 05:54:15 PM

no, i saw that thread, that's nothing like what im talking about. totally separate things. that thread is an evil thread that is in condemnation of male sexuality and playing right into the feminist plan to demonize men and make everybody miserable. threads like that are exactly why threads like this one MUST exist. there is a MORAL OBLIGATION TO THE UNIVERSE AND THE HUMAN RACE FOR THREADS LIKE THIS ONE THAT I HAVE JUST POSTED TO EXIST and it is exactly because of the attitude of the people in that thread
LOL  fucktard


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