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#241
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul ri
December 07, 2020, 07:22:32 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
RealPolitik was used to justify us having to not just negotiate with communist dictators but do active business with them as well. I remember Bush 1 getting a lot of mileage out of that one and people really seemed to buy it back then but I think that was just the inherent guilt of a generation whose wealth was not really earned so much as granted to them by a post war boom speaking. Anyway, here we are after ALL the RealPolitiking by these Rockefeller funded globalist stooges who’ve used it to enrich themselves while virtually bankrupting the nation. You must be using a RADICALLY different definition of that word than how it’s actually played out in reality.
Not to be mean but are you simple?  I gave you the definition I used.  If you are using any other definition you are not listening and further conversation is pointless.  Perhaps if we apply the original definition I so carefully laid out and call it plaid politics, where ideology cannot influence political decisions we can continue a meaningful discussion.  You are using a different definition and willfully ignoring what I am saying.  You are using the tactic of changing the meanings of words and we are wasting our time.
https://youtu.be/xpAvcGcEc0k
#242
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul ri
December 07, 2020, 06:34:29 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 06:26:15 PM
I’m not necessarily say you are, only that RealPolitik is or at least has been used to that effect in this nation. Do you disagree?
By the definition I used I strongly disagree.  Do you understand why I say realpolitik is by definition the antithesis of communism?  I’m not sure what your definition is because all you’ve said is Kissinger.  If you lay out what you mean I can give you an answer in light of your meaning.  But rather than force you to do so, I can agree that that I think that for the majority of the last 50 years or so the country has not been moving in a good direction.
#243
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul ri
December 07, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 06:16:18 PM
OK, I’ll try. Back me up though. Which question?

BTW, I never voted for McCain nor would I have ever even remotely considered doing so and only Obama the first time. Trying to bastardize my record is what faggy libs who got nowhere else to go do. I think you’re better than that. ;)
Quote from: whoozit on December 07, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
Alright, I’ll take a tilt at the windmill.  I use the term realpolitik (the k at the end is because it is a German term) means using circumstances and factors instead of ideology.  If used correctly it can be used used to remove the “am not, are too” out of political debate.  Essentially I’m a pragmatist and that’s why I won’t play schoolyard shouting.  Now it is your turn to explain how that makes me a communist.  Not your definition of anyone that disagrees or doesn’t see eye to eye with you.   In fact communism is anti realpolitik because of how ideological it is. 
I defined how I used the term realpolitik and asked how that could possibly cause me to be called a communist. 
#244
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul ri
December 07, 2020, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
I’m asking you, since you seem to think we’re politically sympatico, do you think this nation has gotten better or worse since RealPolitik became policy with Kissinger? Do you think we’ve become more communistic or more constitutional? Your turn.
Nope, never said politically simpatico, I never voted for Obama, nor did I vote for McCain.  No answers until my outstanding question is answered.  This is a purely quid pro quo relationship.
#245
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:47:48 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
I’m a pragmatist too. Take a minute to think what the nation was like before RealPolitik and what it’s become since. Then tell why anyone should still consider it relevant?
I answered your original question and even answerered this new one in my prior response.  For the love of fluffy puppies, think and answer my question, or be proven solid not just dense.
#246
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 05:32:25 PM
Yeah, I’ll take that as you got nuthin.
Alright, I’ll take a tilt at the windmill.  I use the term realpolitik (the k at the end is because it is a German term) means using circumstances and factors instead of ideology.  If used correctly it can be used used to remove the “am not, are too” out of political debate.  Essentially I’m a pragmatist and that’s why I won’t play schoolyard shouting.  Now it is your turn to explain how that makes me a communist.  Not your definition of anyone that disagrees or doesn’t see eye to eye with you.   In fact communism is anti realpolitik because of how ideological it is. 
#247
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:29:18 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 05:25:50 PM
And my points about your so-called RealPolitik?

I won’t hold my breath. ::)
I’m not here to educate you about your misunderstanding of the origins and meanings of words.   I hope you were good at sports in your youth, you obviously weren’t chosen for the debate team. 
#248
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:22:55 PM
Quote from: albrecht on December 07, 2020, 05:22:14 PM
A very thin gruel and some cadged spiders since you supported the Commies!
Do I have to eat all of the legs?
#249
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:19:40 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 05:14:45 PM
Are we on the same side? I associate that movement with him. Regardless of whether it predates him or not it’s been an evil globalist slippery slope whose compromises have led to where we realistically are now: China getting belligerent and threatening war with the rest of the world and our own nation on the verge of being taken over by actual communists. Bravo, RealPolitik!

BTW, I’ve always appreciated them spelling it with a K on the end as it gives away their real communist agenda. ;)
I’m sorry, I forgot that anyone that doesn’t see things your way is a communist.  Won’t happen again.  What am I having for breakfast tomorrow?

#250
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:10:01 PM
It is unfortunate that both sides of most political debate quickly becomes:
https://youtu.be/xzYO0joolR0
#251
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 04:54:44 PM
I’m just not a fan of Kissinger, like you guys. He’s the globalist who originally sold us out to China. Why would anyone still be following his “real” politik anymore?! It’s those kind of compromises that have gotten us into this whole mess in the first place. ::)
Now I’m a fan of Kissinger?  You have me confusticated.  Realpolitik predates Kissinger.  And it is funny that you throw me in with your opposition.  You do realize we are fairly similar in our political bents, right?  You have to stop lashing out at things you do not understand.
https://youtu.be/_MWzDKE4zbY
#252
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 07, 2020, 04:53:30 PM
You couldn't swing a cat in there.
I’v  always loved that phrase because I always picture someone swinging a cat by the tail even though I understand the origins of the word.
#253
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riot
December 07, 2020, 04:49:34 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on December 07, 2020, 04:47:31 PM
Q predicted this.
Listen to your ❤️.
Nothing bad has ever happened doing to anyone following their feelings.
#254
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 04:43:16 PM
This is the truth. I think we should finally learn to deal with that.
I’m glad that I don’t live in your head. Give me an address so I can send you a helmet while you keep bashing it into walls.  :P
#255
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 07, 2020, 04:39:46 PM
No, a witch hunt is a persecution, a very different thing. This is a group of disingenuous people floundering around trying to cook up a story.
Granted witch hunt is a poor choice of a word.  Replace it with investigation with lack of evidence.
#256
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 04:35:48 PM
Sure but you’re dismissing the fact that there actually is evidence of this, just as we now have the factual evidence that the Russia investigation was a deep state witch hunt.
You can be dense.  You will never win this argument with that investigation was fake, this one is real.  All you are doing is yelling “Am not” to someone calling you a name.  Realpolitik removes feelings and opinions and gets things done.
#257
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 04:12:09 PM
Not following you. There was absolutely no evidence for the Russia investigation. It was purely a political witch hunt by the previous admin and deep state agencies like the FBI and DOJ. There is actual evidence of fraud with the aim of election stealing here. What are you, on drugs?!
Exactly, but once again your perspicacity fails you.  The left views the election investigation as a witch hunt.  If they were not mad about the Russia Investigations then this one surely has at least as much merit.  This removes all argument about affidavits and video evidence.  Stop the ridiculous bickering about which side has the moral high ground. 
#258
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 07, 2020, 03:24:44 PM
Some evidence to back it up. If you have proof to back up your story then you will be taken seriously. I've made statements before to the police, but if there's no corroboration it won't go any further. There are so many people in this business who are so thoroughly dishonest that they'd swear black was white if they thought Trump would get re-elected. If you investigate without any evidence you just feed their paranoia, not that it needs much feeding. And if the investigation comes up with nothing they say it was all a fake by the Chi-Coms or Soros.
All I am suggesting is that this has a much basis as the Russia investigation and impeachment debacle.  I’m sick of one side changing criteria depending on who is being investigated.  Be consistent people.
#259
Quote from: K_Dubb on December 07, 2020, 02:37:59 PM
Whoozit please notice that, once again, I am innocent.  These chuckleheads fling poo in my face whenever I get them a little upset, which is understandable.
This is going to end up as a “Who has the biggest hemorrhoid” competition with photos.
#260
Politics / Re: Olympia, WA riots!
December 07, 2020, 03:21:56 PM
Quote from: K_Dubb on December 06, 2020, 11:42:19 PM
Ab homonym...
...by any other name..
#261
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 02:51:15 PM
Quote from: SredniVashtar on December 07, 2020, 01:38:32 PM
People lie in affidavits all the time because it's very difficult to prove that they are actually deliberately lying and it usually isn't worth allocating resources to prosecute them if they did. The people going on about investigating fraud are as dishonest as the 9/11 people, they will never accept any result that doesn't reflect their pre-conceived opinion. Like the phake physician on here, it's a waste of time to take any of them seriously.
What is the criteria for opening an investigation? If affidavits aren’t enough what is?  Please don’t tell me it’s like the definition of pornography. I agree lots have pre-conceived opinions and biases but what is all the blustering about finding the truth?   
#262
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 07, 2020, 12:57:19 PM
Also, look mang, Koolaid won the powdered drink war and only a handful of people like you and me even remember it’s cheaper cousin, Flavoraid. That’s why we use it and not what was actually used in Jonestown when referring to unthinking political drones like K_Dubb. ;)
I agree but it is a great example of how to change collective memory.  At some point it becomes easier to accept the mistake than keep correcting the record, and that is truly terrifying. 
#263
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: K_Dubb on December 07, 2020, 12:32:03 PM
Ah yes, the secret evidence that is to be revealed.  How often have you guys kicked this can, now?  The only things these clowns are after are contributions, views, and clicks.

There is a public duty to make a persuasive case to the nation.  I think if he is going to tell the people the election was fraudulent, the President should, at minimum, refrain from making laughably disprovable claims like the million PA absentees, and distance himself from obvious shysters, but he has done exactly the opposite.
You are twisting my words.  All I want is a real investigation.  It should not be directed to persuade the nation, it should be directed to find out what happened.  Stop trying to equate me with the Flavor Aid (it was Flavor Aid not Kool-Aid used at Jonestown, funny how a fiction often repeated becomes the record) drinking fringes of either party.  You now expect the President, 3 years and 11 months into his term, to behave differently? That is a bit laughable.  Do you often burn yourself on the glowing stove?
#264
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: K_Dubb on December 07, 2020, 11:21:46 AM
Great, just like WOTR you wind up to a sonorous peroration, this time about a serious and sober investigation, with which no one in his right mind would disagree.  This effort isn't one.  Meanwhile you have doc ahootin' and ahollerin' and ready to grab the Brown Bess down from over the mantle, right out of Hamilton.
Which effort?  That is the issue, I have not seen a honest effort.  If you are expecting Trump or the media to do the investigation you are crazy.  And if you expect lawyers to make the arguments in public and not before the courts you are more addled than most on BellGab, thinner but addled.
#265
All of the runny bum talk has proven that this thread has jumped the sewer and fell short.
#266
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 10:24:53 AM
I think the affidavit alleges they were deceived into leaving.  That allegation makes the definition of may and must moot and should be investigated with more than a no widespread fraud statement. It doesn’t mean the election is invalid or should be overturned per se, but at least a serious and sober investigation should occur.  There are way too many “I watch law shows on tv so I understand the intricacies of the law” reporters and bloggers out there.
#267
Politics / Re: Minneapolis/St.paul riots
December 07, 2020, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: K_Dubb on December 06, 2020, 10:37:44 PM
https://codes.findlaw.com/ga/title-21-elections/ga-code-sect-21-2-408.html

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 06, 2020, 10:30:07 PM
I did read the section of GA law pertaining to election observers and didn't see anything stating that their presence was required.  It's in plain English, cited in any number of articles.
You may want to sit down with a fresh cup of delicious Peet’s Coffee Holiday Blend and reread the code:

(c) In counties or municipalities using direct recording electronic (DRE) voting systems or optical scanning voting systems, each political party may appoint two poll watchers in each primary or election, each political body may appoint two poll watchers in each election, each nonpartisan candidate may appoint one poll watcher in each nonpartisan election, and each independent candidate may appoint one poll watcher in each election to serve in the locations designated by the superintendent within the tabulating center.  Such designated locations shall include the check-in area, the computer room, the duplication area, and such other areas as the superintendent may deem necessary to the assurance of fair and honest procedures in the tabulating center.  The poll watchers provided for in this subsection shall be appointed and serve in the same manner as other poll watchers.

Edit:  I see you are making the distinction of may and must.  If a poll watcher was stopped from being present the law was broken.  That is the real question that needs to be answered and not in front of a tv camera.  Some people will say anything to get on tv especially if they are too fat to get their own show.


#268
As Arnie would say, “Look at those ahhhhhhhhhhhhhms!”.
#269
Quote from: Corona Kitty on December 06, 2020, 05:54:54 PM
She can probably bench 250 with ease. Jack probably could only lift the bar.
I’ll bet $50 the one on the right can bench more.
#270
Was it worth it?  I guess that question is for both of you.
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