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Started by GravitySucks, November 05, 2016, 10:30:35 PM

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Chupacabra

#30
November 06, 2016, 07:21:48 PM
I want a Chupacabra...

No really, I want a fancy water feature, thats all I want. Christmas is about family and friends.  For all you kids out there, live it up now. Christmas is not the same when your 30

ksm32

#31
November 06, 2016, 07:58:59 PM
The KSM44


I'll have to purchase it on my own.

comaphobe

#35
November 07, 2016, 04:06:30 AM
i'm trying to score a black 1985 ibanez PL1660 before december 8th. it's been a 22 year mission trying to build voltron but in 2016 all the parts are aligning. i collect japanese made ibanez flying Vs and X shaped guitars of the early and mid 80s. i have anxiety.

Mind Flayer Monk

#36
November 07, 2016, 05:20:21 AM
Can't this thread wait until after Thanksgiving Day?

Nobody

#37
November 08, 2016, 09:21:23 AM
Brig's hat.*








*Which may appear to be a harmless "sweet old lady" hat, but which is actually constructed similar to (and employed by her in a manner similar to) Oddjob's bowler.

the_Stranger

#38
November 08, 2016, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: comaphobe on November 07, 2016, 04:06:30 AM
i'm trying to score a black 1985 ibanez PL1660 before december 8th. it's been a 22 year mission trying to build voltron but in 2016 all the parts are aligning. i collect japanese made ibanez flying Vs and X shaped guitars of the early and mid 80s. i have anxiety.

I'd put that guitar in the top 5 metal guitars list. Never played one, but they look nice.
Are the necks thin for Trump fingers like mine?

comaphobe

#39
November 09, 2016, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: the_Stranger on November 08, 2016, 10:42:16 PM
I'd put that guitar in the top 5 metal guitars list. Never played one, but they look nice.
Are the necks thin for Trump fingers like mine?

Out of curiousity what other metal guitars would you rank up in there?

To clarify, I said PL1660 but it is actually PR1660. Either way I know you knew I was talking about the Proline 1660. I started with a couple of paragraphs and then it went into this whole big thing below.....

It has a slim neck although I don't know how to classify it.  I think the frets are 'medium'. There are only 22 frets on the 1660 but they shred. The guitar can be played fast and with ease. Glancing at my limited notes here it has a "flat radius" fingerboard although I don't really know what that means exactly. The body is alder wood, and the fingerboard is ebony. Apparently some have maple fingerboard. I consider the guitar to be extremely fast, and is easy to play if you are ok with the shape. I think with Proline models marked the beginning of the traditional modern Ibanez headstock shape. If you look at a Roadstar II for example just a year or 2 earlier, the headstock is nowhere near the same shape as the ones on the necks of rock guitars that Ibanez put out after that.

If you like pointy guitars I bet you would love the Proline 1660, it was well-built and they sound as good as an ESP or Jackson.

They pop up here and there and go for reasonable rate if there is just a couple of minor scratches or small dents from wear and tear. Try and grab one, but if you do I would make sure it has all the original hardware. I have seen some with replaced pickups, bridges, and even neck replacement. Whoever did those things to those guitars is a serious asshole. The guitar is fine with stock parts. The pickups are not to be messed with. Make sure the V5s are intact if shopping for one of these.

IMO the PR1660 sounds better than a mid or high level Randy Rhoads flying V by Jackson or ESP. Plus the pickups that come in them are the old V5 humbuckers that Ibanez used to have in their thrasher guitars of the early to mid 80s, and they have these chrome rails so they are somewhat easy to identify at a glance... but what I was gonna say about the pickups is that they are very hot, and they are just passive. They are totally amazing though, the sound is powerful and the distortion capability is like no stock pickups I have come across I don't think. They are very bright and loud and designed for maximum gain. It's a guitar for punk and heavy metal stuff. It is definitely built for distortion, heavy riffing, screaming leads. It has a 3 way switch and only 2 knobs. You can play Priest or classic era Slayer material or any kind of oldschool speedmetal leads no problem on one of those. You can also play blues if you want.  They are also very thrashy, heavy, powerfully good for rhythm, playing punk or whatever. If you like harmonics it is a superb guitar, it screams and wails like satan's whorehouse. It's very effortless to squeeze out harmonics on one of these you don't even need to try.

The guitar is the pre-lawsuit model. They were only made between 1985 and part of 1986, then were replaced by the 2660 which was produced in 1986 only and was even more of an exact clone of Jackson's RR and this caused Jackson to take Ibanez to court and that was it for the whole V/RR thing all together. There are pics of both guitars in a link at the bottom. The 1660 has a bolt-on neck, the 2660 was a neckthrough design, and instead of pearl dot inlays like the 1660, the 2660 had sharktooth style ones although I am not sure what they were officially called. The 2660 is more evasive, I have never seen one available anywhere.

It is my favorite guitar and I guess has become a hobby to collect them. I found a pink one in the summer. It took 2 weeks of talking/planning, then eventually 10 hours of travel to pick it up in the middle of literal fucking nowhere but it was earned and the trip makes the guitar fun. The current one I am shopping is longer distance and requires a translator. The seller wants to trade for an equivalent valued guitar, I have nothing to offer that I'm willing to get rid of and just want to pay cash so he can get whatever he wants but I don't know how it's gonna pan out. I think he is looking for a used high end ESP.

Also FYI, the DT350 (star shaped body) which was an Ibanez Destroyer (X-Series) made in 1984 and possibly 1985 has identical hardware/output as the PR1660 randy rhoads shaped flying v. I think the neck is the same too except it's enamel coated to match the body of the guitars. Anyways, the DT350 has the same pickups and classic Pro Rock'R tremelo system as the 1660, a floyd rose style bridge system which was discontinued and replaced by the Edge series tremelo systems in similar classes of Ibanez guitars from 1986 onward. In short, the output of a DT350 sounds almost identical as a PR1660. Same 3way switch/V5 pickups etc. Although I am not sure if the sound resonates through the body the same as the 1660. I have an ESP Alexei200 (RR shape with sawtooth inlays) and although it's got good sustain as well as being really nice sounding all around, I would say that the vibrational resonating is not like the amazeballz of the 1660... because even when not plugged in, the Proline V sounds very good somehow. It's unexplainable.

Also, there was a Rocket Roll version of the Randy Rhoads V but I can't remember the year it was produced, nor do I know model number, but if you search you will find it. At a glance it looks a lot like the PR1660. I saw one on the internet a few months ago for the first time ever while looking up info on a different Rocket Roll V that I own. It looks similar to the 1660 but there is an extra triangular plate somewhere down near the apex of the big pointy point. I don't know what that is all about, maybe it has active pickups and that is a routed out compartment for housing 9v battery. No idea I have never played one I just discovered their existence not too long ago but I would like to try one of those out. I have no clue what their value is. I have a 1982 Ibanez Rocket Roll II full sized V which is kind of a gibson style but a lil more sleek/modern looking edges and flush joint area... But it is the only Rocket Roll of any type that I have either seen or played. It sounds excellent and it is extremely hard to find. I really don't know a whole lot about those but it is a really interesting guitar. I found it by accident while searching for available PR1660s within a 10-20 hour radius of my house. I paid more for my Rocket Roll II than any other guitar that I own. I still have no clue as to what it's value is, nor do I for most of the other guitars that I own. I think something is only as valuable as another is willing to pay for it.

There is a discussion topic on this site talking about the PR1660... about halfway down the page somebody posted images of both the PR2660 (1986), and the previous PR1660 (1985). I think their market values might be a little inflated. I wouldn't trust that shit one bit. Ones I usually see on Ebay are also inflated by a couple of hundred more than they probably should be. I am not sure I would trust Ebay to act as a price guide for items of any kind. Also, note the date of posts, they are 7 years old. The economy is worse and that creates an ideal time to buy certain items.
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f18/cherry-ice-pl2660-a-143985.html

one more discussion page:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?232629-(NGD)-Vintage-ibanez-pre-lawsuit-score-proline

general overview of the Ibanez ProLine family tree...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibanez_Pro-line

the_Stranger

#41
November 09, 2016, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: comaphobe on November 09, 2016, 04:31:44 AM
Out of curiousity what other metal guitars would you rank up in there?


BC Rich Bitch
BC Rich Warlock
Ibanez Destroyer
Dean ML 79
Jackson King V

I had to disqualify "classic" styles like the Gibson Flying V, SG, Les Paul, Strat, etc...
All amazing guitars, but they're not synonymous with 80s metal like the above list.
I love guitars, especially the cheap unloved models that sit on pawn shop walls waiting to be discovered.
I haven't played in around 4 years, but last weekend I brought a Les Paul knockoff out of storage to torture me here at home.
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