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Started by onan, May 22, 2011, 02:41:35 AM

HAL 9000

Regarding the recent discussion about ground beef and coloring, I can shed a little light on the topic.

Long ago, I working in a large grocery store for many years putting myself through school. Recently, one of my patient's father, who worked at a meat packing factory, explained current packaging.

One Sunday afternoon, we had a large family dinner gathering featuring a tasty roast beef. I also happened to be taking my first anatomy/physiology class during this time. The topic of the deliciousness of my mom's homemade gravy came up. I proceeded to tell the entire family that in reality, gravy is just fat juices and the hemolyzed contents of red blood cells that have been oxidized and cooked. This information was not well received.

The father who recently spoke of his meat packaging job, informed me that, for quite a few years, modified atmosphere packaging (MAP) helps to keep meat pink for quite lengthy periods of time. Typically, this packing utilizes a black tray with special plastic wrap (less porous), in which the meat is packed in higher concentrations of carbon monoxide or nitrogen (low oxygen). For example, his plant packaged all their meat for Walmart, so that stores did not do their own packing. Grocery stores that still use the familiar white Styrofoamâ,,¢ trays are typically not in low-oxygen environments, and are therefore subject to much shorter shelf-lives.

Potato chips have long been packed in nitrogen to maintain freshness, and bananas (and many other fruits and vegetables) are stored in large nitrogen-rich rooms to dramatically reduce ripening until ready to sell.

            

CrabbyOld Bat

Quote from: HAL 9000 on January 26, 2013, 02:16:29 AM
The topic of the deliciousness of my mom's homemade gravy came up. I proceeded to tell the entire family that in reality, gravy is just fat juices and the hemolyzed contents of red blood cells that have been oxidized and cooked. This information was not well received.

LOL

You could write the best selling diet book of all time. Simply explain what we're really eating and food consumption would drop dramatically.  ;D

I read where the food industry used sodium nitrate to make greyish meat look redder/fresher, but I think it has been banned.

Sardondi

Quote from: somatic hypermutation on January 26, 2013, 01:19:34 AM
It could also be oxidation or fake coloring added to the outside to make the meat look red.  Oxidation makes meat gray but generally happens outside-in.

I broke open a pack of beautiful, red hamburger one time to find a mass of gray mud underneath. Took it back to the supermarket and they told me with a straight face it was all extra special primo fresh, and that I was just seeing something called "blooming" and the gray really didn't have anything to do with freshness yadda yadda. I stopped them in mid sentence, asked if that was so, why did they hide it? Why wasn't all their meat displayed as gray instead of red, since it was supposedly all the same? I didn't believe their story and I quit shopping there. They failed before too long. I suppose it was a sign of their financial distress that they were mixing old meat with the fresh.

*edit* and for giggles I just looked it up and found an explanation that says oxygen will indeed make ground meat look nice and red on the outside, while keeping the meat gray underneath. Oh no. What have I done to those poor people?

Imconfused

Rat race annoys me.  All this "climbing the ladder" and trying to prove something to people you don't give a shit about. I don't want to be part of it.  EVER!

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Imconfused on January 26, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Rat race annoys me.  All this "climbing the ladder" and trying to prove something to people you don't give a shit about. I don't want to be part of it.  EVER!
Who wins the rat race? The biggest, fastest rat.

        I'd rather be roadkill.

Imconfused

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on January 26, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
   
        I'd rather be roadkill.

Sadly I'm with you on that one.

Quote from: Rachael Nexusei on January 26, 2013, 04:58:29 PM
I read where the food industry used sodium nitrate to make greyish meat look redder/fresher, but I think it has been banned.
Just look at the ingredients of hot dogs,sausages salami.itrates,Nitrites are still there.

HAL 9000

Quote from: Unquenchable Angst on January 27, 2013, 12:41:24 AMJust look at the ingredients of hot dogs,sausages salami.itrates,Nitrites are still there.

...and not a bad thing. Here is a nice laymen's site explaining nitrates/nitrites, how/where they occur naturally, etc.

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/does-banning-hotdogs-and-bacon-make.html

There are of course, many other more scholarly articles supporting the information at the above site.

I get kind of hungry for a hot dog or a hamburger I will buy the Maverick Farms brand as they don't put anything in their hot dogs ,Their beef is grass fed.They also have Buffalo both groud and hot dogs.Kind of expensive  but for a treat every now and then.Good whole grain  rolls.
Went to a HS reunion in 1995 .Had been through a hurricane 3 days before and had cut my hair close as I expected to have to wash out of buckets before I took the 600 mile trip to the Reunion.Had a classmate that hd a couple relapses of cancer and had died a short time before.When I got to the party ,everyone treated me very odd.They had thought I was having chemo as my head was shaved.Have another reunion in 2015.50 year number.
As far as todays annoiance is how some people think that their imagined reforms of human nature will make the world perfect and those people will hit you with derogitory remarks,stereotypical archtypes ad ca not carry aon a discussion without trying to beat you with their 'superior' point of view and if they can't top you they start trying to drag you down to their level by trying to draw you into anger.
My nephew got all pissy about the polar bears.I told him they would probably get dark again in time and just be Grizzly's again.He got all pissed at me and said how could an old hippy like me not be worried about the demise of the polar bears. I said probably just the reverse of what happened when the place got cold to flash freeze the mammoths.


Sardondi

You do know that your Kennedy signature is a fake quote, don't you?

HorrorRetro

Paint that says one coat provides full coverage.  No, it does not.  I've used every brand out there, and it always requires at least two coats.  I'm in the middle of painting the basement and, again, it's going to require several coats.  >:(

michio

Quote from: Unquenchable Angst on January 27, 2013, 03:09:23 AM
My nephew got all pissy about the polar bears.I told him they would probably get dark again in time and just be Grizzly's again.He got all pissed at me and said how could an old hippy like me not be worried about the demise of the polar bears. I said probably just the reverse of what happened when the place got cold to flash freeze the mammoths.

It wasn't a flash freeze as people think.  The theory is that these mammoths became mired in thick mud, something like quicksand but not exactly, and being unable to move they may have continued to sink and suffocated.  The bodies were preserved by the mud and they eventually became encased in ice. They are now finding more of these fossils because of the continued melting of the ancient permafrost.

As for the deplorable and probable demise of the polar bears, chalk one up for "intelligent"  and "caring" humankind who figure out how to do the right thing usually too late.

ziznak

Anybody have any recent news on those grizzley polar bear hybrids?  I remember seeing something about it a while back apparently some hunter killed what he thought was a grizz only to discover afterwards that it was some mulatto-bear.

Thanks for the link to that nitrate article Hal.  I remember my Mom going on about nitrates when I was still a little shit and eating hot dogs like they were going out of style.  I sent her the link ;)

Eddie Coyle

 
          For at least 15 years, I've prided myself on the fact that I've never seen a Jackie Chan movie. I wear it like a badge. I feel it gives me higher ground.


           However, it has come to my attention that Jackie Chan was in Cannonball Run 2, apparently playing an Asian. And I must regretfully announce, that on Thursday, Aug 1, 1985...that the just turned 10 year Coyle watched Cannonball Run 2.

            A schmuck just like the rest. But...at least I haven't seen a movie with Jackie Chan in the last 27 years, 5 months and 27 days!  That's 10, 043 days and counting.

McPhallus


They actually aren't that bad, sort of like watching a spastic, ADD-riddled dance.  I remember sitting through some of his movies during the mid-90s with the group of knuckle-dragger friends I had at the time when he was at the peak of his popularity.

Hi movies are all nearly identical.

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on January 28, 2013, 10:18:31 AM

          For at least 15 years, I've prided myself on the fact that I've never seen a Jackie Chan movie. I wear it like a badge. I feel it gives me higher ground.


           However, it has come to my attention that Jackie Chan was in Cannonball Run 2, apparently playing an Asian. And I must regretfully announce, that on Thursday, Aug 1, 1985...that the just turned 10 year Coyle watched Cannonball Run 2.

            A schmuck just like the rest. But...at least I haven't seen a movie with Jackie Chan in the last 27 years, 5 months and 27 days!  That's 10, 043 days and counting.

ziznak

I regret to admit I actually liked his cartoon for a while.  Jackie Chan adventures was on like everyday right when I was getting home from work for a while so it was my after work bong smoking TV.  His movies I can't say I'm a fan of.  I always liked how he would use weird objects from his surroundings in his fights but you see that crap in a lot of kung fu movies.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on January 28, 2013, 10:18:31 AM

          For at least 15 years, I've prided myself on the fact that I've never seen a Jackie Chan movie. I wear it like a badge. I feel it gives me higher ground.


           However, it has come to my attention that Jackie Chan was in Cannonball Run 2...


i, too, have never seen a jackie chan movie.  i've also not seen cannonball run 2.  this places me just a click or two above you as a human being, and i'm surprised by this outcome. 


you should be ashamed of yourself.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: MV on January 28, 2013, 11:54:51 AM

i, too, have never seen a jackie chan movie.  i've also not seen cannonball run 2.  this places me just a click or two above you as a human being, and i'm surprised by this outcome. 


you should be ashamed of yourself.
Worst part is that I never even saw Cannonball Run I, so I was often confused and puzzled by the elaborate plot and story telling of the sequel. I'm definitely a lesser creature for watching it and my youth is no excuse. I deserve scorn and ostracism. Maybe Zircon is right about us.

Sardondi

Quote from: MV on January 28, 2013, 11:54:51 AM

i, too, have never seen a jackie chan movie.  i've also not seen cannonball run 2.  this places me just a click or two above you as a human being, and i'm surprised by this outcome.....

Nope, no Jackie Chan for me either. Just. Don't. Get. It.

CrabbyOld Bat

Never understood the Jackie Chan fascination.

But I'm even more confused by the Ashton Kutcher fascination. Is he a drag queen or is she a drag king? Couldn't pay me enough to see a movie with it as the star.

Wait. Make me a really big offer and I'll at least consider it. 

coaster

There is something about Hal Needham movies I enjoy. Stroker Ace, Smokey and the Bandit, and Cannonball Run are all fun movies. I'm not sure what it is that I like about them. Im not a redneck, and I'm not into cars. but Ive seen these movies several times. I guess sometimes its nice not having to think while watching a movie. Who knows..
Jackie Chan on the other hand..I find it hard to watch choreographed fighting. Its so cheesy. I do find it interesting seeing the U.S. through his eyes though. Anyone remember the set from Rumble in the Bronx? It was ridiculous. I wonder if thats how the world sees us.
Sorry for the rambling.

Marc.Knight

Quote from: Sardondi on January 28, 2013, 05:34:06 PM
Nope, no Jackie Chan for me either. Just. Don't. Get. It.


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Don't know if this issue has been mentioned yet, but I hate commercials that conclude with some moron speed-muttering through the product disclaimer.  It sounds like they're trying to pull a fast one with all the skill and talent of an angry wasp.  Shut.  The.  Hell.  Up.  Nothing makes me turn off the radio faster.  Well, maybe Noory's voice makes me turn it off faster, but other than that....

Quote from: MV on January 28, 2013, 11:54:51 AM

i, too, have never seen a jackie chan movie.  i've also not seen cannonball run 2.  this places me just a click or two above you as a human being, and i'm surprised by this outcome. 


you should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh NO!  Have I stumbled upon Forum Shaming??????   Tsk, tsk, tsk.    ;)

Juan

Now wait a minute.  Jackie gave Michelle Yeoh her start.  He's not all bad.

Sardondi

Quote from: CrabbyOld Bat on January 28, 2013, 05:45:49 PM...But I'm even more confused by the Ashton Kutcher fascination. Is he a drag queen or is she a drag king?....

I don't get him either. At one point I thought it was because he was a younger guy famous for sleeping with Demi Moore. But as Demi has come to resemble a Chihuahua with the nerve-shivers, and since they've parted ways, I guess that's not it. He's not even really in movies now is he? So I'm back to not getting it about him.

coaster

The kind of commercials I hate are the ones on tv that tell you how much their product can help you feel better. Then they start listing all the horrible side effects which are far worse then the symptoms the medicine is supposed to relieve. I think I've complained about those commercials in this thread before. The worst ones are the depression medications which side effects include thoughts of suicide. Seems like a rather pointless medicine. I think the best thing a depressed person can do is turn off their tv.
Quote from: Sardondi on January 28, 2013, 09:46:03 PM
I don't get him either.
The problem with Ashton Kutcher is hes a horrible actor. Its not just him though. A lot of people who started their careers doing sitcoms cannot transition to movies. Sitcoms are easy and require no acting skills at all.

ItsOver

Quote from: coaster on January 28, 2013, 10:28:02 PM
The kind of commercials I hate are the ones on tv that tell you how much their product can help you feel better. Then they start listing all the horrible side effects which are far worse then the symptoms the medicine is supposed to relieve. I think I've complained about those commercials in this thread before. The worst ones are the depression medications which side effects include thoughts of suicide. Seems like a rather pointless medicine. I think the best thing a depressed person can do is turn off their tv.


;D   The pharma commercials are like watching a really bad version of an old Dan Akroyd SNL parody.  Those COPD commercials are bad enough to drive you to depression medication.   


What's with the psuedo-uber macho Viagra commercials with the jock-ass pick-up or Camaro drivers?  The background music alone sounds like something from a porno flick. Oh for the innocent days of Bosco chocolate syrup and Wonder Bread commercials.  :-[

Sardondi

If I had before me the persons responsible for making all these ads where supposed 65-year-olds (played by incredibly beautiful 43-y.o.s) are spending the weekend running ultra-marathons together, or parachuting from 75,000 feet, and then on Monday run a Fortune 500 company or preside over an NGO that saves baby koalas, and then spend the after-work hours at their inexplicably young children's school-programs and thence to some world-saving fundraiser, and finally home in their $90,000 vehicle where they will roger the spouse until dawn, at which they time they train with a local SEAL detachment, all the time with an insipid smile on their faces because they use some product (that just might give you thoughts of suicide or make you throw a clot), I think I really might bitch slap them to tears. I do hate them. All.

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