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Midnight In The Desert

Started by Falkie2013, December 12, 2015, 01:13:40 AM

K_Dubb

Quote from: Sean92008 on May 20, 2018, 09:22:13 AM
I have a theory I haven't seen on BG yet... I can completely understand the probable reason Marsha waited until weeks after Art's death to talk...

She wanted to absolutely make sure she wasn't in the will by some far off chance...

Are you suggesting there are provisions in wills that make any inheritance contingent on discretion?  Or that being left out of the will inspired her to go public out of spite?

A contrarian view:  blame and credit in relationships are community property, split 50/50.  Art's inclination and ability to dissociate with his progeny suggests something is wrong but, beyond that, it's hard to distinguish Marsha's and Vincent's characterizations from the kinds of things exes always say -- Vincent's only heard one side all his life.  Accusations of sociopathy, narcissism and manipulation are just spent ammunition in the war of love.

To me it's just as likely that Art's death means people can now talk without fear of rebuttal.  A more-charitable reading of all this would have Art navigating the difficult ethics of polyamory as that culture blossomed in the '70s, a sort of sexual pioneer.

FlarpsWife

Quote from: chefist on May 20, 2018, 10:45:14 AM
With so many illegitimate children coming out of the woodwork, there may be a class action lawsuit against Art's estate soon. Artie Appleseed.

I think Vincent said Art was married to all of their mothers at one time. Which ones are illegit?

Quote from: chefist on May 20, 2018, 10:45:14 AM
With so many illegitimate children coming out of the woodwork, there may be a class action lawsuit against Art's estate soon. Artie Appleseed.

Who knows how many girls he inseminated at those swingers parties?

Metron2267


Sean92008

Quote from: chefist on May 20, 2018, 10:45:14 AM
With so many illegitimate children coming out of the woodwork, there may be a class action lawsuit against Art's estate soon. Artie Appleseed.
Agreed.  Thought of that when Vincent repeated the $10M trusts. There's a possibility...

timebandit

Quote from: whoozit on May 20, 2018, 10:38:57 AM
I think it sucks stuff like this comes out after someone dies.  Who knows exactly what Art did during his life.  In this circumstance there seems to be many indicating Art led a kind of double life.  That does not really affect me as I like most had no personal dealings with Art.  At this point I am re-evaluating my feelings about Art.  I can’t tell you what the outcome will be.  This is the best example of,why I do not want to know about the personal lives of entertainers.
Bukowski use to say his fame came too late.. fuckable young groupies would pound on his door at night.
With power, money and fame comes sex.. If I won the lottery i'd wallow in tang



timebandit

Quote from: whoozit on May 20, 2018, 09:11:24 AM
I think it was the other way around.  The bigger sociopath ate the smaller one.  As The One used to say; Art was the larger animal.
heather was a victim and needs our support..

Sean92008

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 20, 2018, 10:47:46 AM
Are you suggesting there are provisions in wills that make any inheritance contingent on discretion?  Or that being left out of the will inspired her to go public out of spite?

In a roundabout way...  Maybe not spite because she wasn't a recipient just holding off until she knew for sure.

Darth Vader

Quote from: timebandit on May 20, 2018, 10:51:16 AM
Bukowski use to say his fame came too late.. fuckable young groupies would pound on his door at night.
With power, money and fame comes sex.. If I won the lottery i'd wallow in tang
If i won the lottery, I would send Falkie to a place where he can not use any computers and surf the internet. Maybe to an island with the Amish. No internet or computers and hard work will do falkie good.

AstroBuzz

Just throwing this out there...

I remember back in the 90's at the end of Art's show he would mention something about a Philipina Hoax and he had a link on his website that he would direct listeners to that explained the situation.

Wasn't it a rumor/hoax that Art was running a Philippina prostitution business...?

After the latest AB revelations, it kind of makes ya wonder.

K_Dubb

Quote from: ItsOver on May 20, 2018, 10:18:15 AM
The dragging out of Heater on his "test" MITD as some sort of co-host was one of the clues, plus his so-called problems with MITD before he even started the show.  I remember listening to the joint Bell and Heater show and wondering WTF is up with this.  He would have rolled in Heater earlier as the full time host if it hadn't been such a bomb.  Bell figured what the hell and built up the subscriber base for Heater for a few months before he finally dropped the Heater bomb in December of 2015 and launched into his final quittening.

If I remember right, the test show suggested she might co-host from time to time.  An actual plan would have her worked in gradually and him bailing her out once in a while when she flailed.  Nah, he split; she's just another abandoned project.

whoozit

Quote from: timebandit on May 20, 2018, 10:54:52 AM
heather was a victim and needs our support..
She wasn’t a victim.  She was out used.

chefist

Quote from: FlarpsWife on May 20, 2018, 10:48:05 AM
I think Vincent said Art was married to all of their mothers at one time. Which ones are illegit?

I think they may have been at least one he didn't marry...but like others have said, how could you know how many kids may be out there given the history of behavior.

Tricky-D

Quote from: Sean92008 on May 20, 2018, 09:44:06 AM
While I would have to reread the deposition to know for sure, I believe Art referenced getting a percentage of C2C earnings.  Now, many quittenings have occurred since he made that statement...

There's also the possibility that Art was getting a cut of the show and some genius thought of Paranormal Date as a way to generate income that was outside of the show that was off Art's books...  Either way, Paranormal Date is a great way to monetize the brand.

Paranormal Date is actually run by company called White Label Dating, they run thousands of these niche dating sites around the world. They setup partnerships with various brands to draw people, the brand owner’s only responsibility is to market the site and get a commission if there is any. It’s all a scam because they pool the members of all these sites into one membership pool no matter if they signed up for paranormal date or CosmoDate. https://www.whitelabeldating.com/

MV aka Liberace could setup Bellgab date and watch that cash roll in.




PaulK

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 20, 2018, 10:46:53 AM
I think Art had an ax to grind with Coast but didn't want to host the show for long.  He'd build up listeners for a few months then hand the show to Heather who he thought wouldn't run the show into the ground. Yes, it was pre-planned that Heather would take over.

Do you know why?


PaulK

Quote from: timebandit on May 20, 2018, 10:54:52 AM
heather was a victim and needs our support..

Heather is decomposing. Trust me.

ItsOver

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 20, 2018, 10:57:09 AM
If I remember right, the test show suggested she might co-host from time to time.  An actual plan would have her worked in gradually and him bailing her out once in a while when she flailed.  Nah, he split; she's just another abandoned project.
Yes, that's how I remember it.  Art seemed to be running Heater up the flagpole to see if anyone would salute, other than himself.  Looking back at the supposed problems Art was having with kicking-off MITD (music licensing, Queef, etc.), I think he was looking for an out to can any comeback and then decided to go with the plan of eventually setting up Heater with the show, while she whiled away the time in the cuckshed as his "producer."  It's interesting that the stalker firecrackers showed up just when MITD was really taking off and the opportunity to go with national syndication developed.  Art no doubt thought he'd done all he could do to set-up Heater but knew she wasn't going to be good enough to seal a deal with Cumulus.  Time to hit the eject button and hand-over the controls to Heater.

Quote from: PaulK on May 20, 2018, 11:02:43 AM
Do you know why?

He didn't like the direction George and his producers took the show.  I remember him coming on Bellgab and calling George, Dave, like many other members who have contempt for Noory. He also left a cryptic message about "the wind blowing" something or other. It had something to do with Coast but I can't remember the exact quote now.

Exile

After reading all this, the next funeral I go to, I will probably go through the deceased's pocket looking for change. Hopefully it wont be mine. ;D

DynamoHum

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 20, 2018, 11:11:36 AM
He didn't like the direction George and his producers took the show.  I remember him coming on Bellgab and calling George, Dave, like many members who had contempt for Noory. He also left a cryptic message about "the wind blowing" something or other. It had something to do with Coast but I can't remember the exact quote now.

Didn’t he spend a fair portion of the first Sirius show explaining about his issue with Premiere and C2Cam and it also being left out to dry with regard to support/legal counsel during the sexual assault case that concerned his son and a teacher?

Hells Mole

Quote from: Liberace on May 20, 2018, 01:51:04 AM
i was going to post it tonight, but life got in the way.  i'll get it posted asap tomorrow.

Life is always getting in the way until its not and at that point death is forever in the way of getting around to all the things that never ended up mattering.


ItsOver

Quote from: timebandit on May 20, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
hi..do you recall the date of the test show?..
I'd like to listen,
thanks
July 19, 2015

ItsOver

Quote from: DynamoHum on May 20, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
Didn’t he spend a fair portion of the first Sirius show explaining about his issue with Premiere and C2Cam and it also being left out to dry with regard to support/legal counsel during the sexual assault case that concerned his son and a teacher?
Yes.

K_Dubb

Quote from: DynamoHum on May 20, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
Didn’t he spend a fair portion of the first Sirius show explaining about his issue with Premiere and C2Cam and it also being left out to dry with regard to support/legal counsel during the sexual assault case that concerned his son and a teacher?

Yeah, I remember something like that.  If Premiere really did hire detectives to investigate him as that article suggested, prickly Art probably was pissed they just didn't take his word for it.

QuotePremiere trusted Bell's denials but hired private investigators to double-check, Kitchen says. They found "nothing even remotely close to being a pornographer or child molester" in Bell's past, he adds.

Hells Mole

Quote from: Liberace on May 20, 2018, 01:54:46 AM
i'm gonna take a look at that game on your recommendation, btw.  i saw several reviews saying it was awful but fuck those people.

If you're talking about the Prey video game you have to get the original from 10+ years ago not the new one released within the last couple of years.  The original game was great, at least the first section of it while on Earth with Art Bell on the radio.  After that it's basically alien Portal.  Very unique atmosphere/ambience.  Can't speak for the remake.  If people say it sucks it must be the remake they are talking about because it seemed like the original was cherished.

69CheckMate

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 20, 2018, 08:39:02 AM
Name 1 thing besides his antenna farm that Art actually planned in advance.

Sex parties.

Quote from: DynamoHum on May 20, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
Didn’t he spend a fair portion of the first Sirius show explaining about his issue with Premiere and C2Cam and it also being left out to dry with regard to support/legal counsel during the sexual assault case that concerned his son and a teacher?

I believe there was some mention of that but it was more than that.  He had ongoing battles with Coast producers about unscreened open lines during the last few years of Coast prior to him leaving for the final time.   I don't think the producers liked callers calling in to complain about George's ineptitude to Art.

Quote from: AstroBuzz on May 20, 2018, 10:55:09 AM
Just throwing this out there...

I remember back in the 90's at the end of Art's show he would mention something about a Philipina Hoax and he had a link on his website that he would direct listeners to that explained the situation.

Wasn't it a rumor/hoax that Art was running a Philippina prostitution business...?

After the latest AB revelations, it kind of makes ya wonder.

Yes, here is a link to that letter:
https://www.pinoyexchange.com/discussion/349866/anti-filipino-letter-by-nevada-radio-host-art-bell

It also was tracked down to San Diego so it probably involved one of Art's ex-clients?

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