20151203 - Sally Vander Veer - Marijuana - Live Art Bell Chat Thread

[trostol]

not sure if i am surprised that it happened to it took so long

http://www.wtam.com/articles/national-news-104668/scott-weiland-found-dead-on-tour-14175051

[aldousburbank]

I'm not really interested in marijuana. But it seems to be quite interested in me.

[chandlerkaiden]

not sure if i am surprised that it happened to it took so long

http://www.wtam.com/articles/national-news-104668/scott-weiland-found-dead-on-tour-14175051

Pot overdose.

[zeebo]

I'm backstage tonight working as a roadie.

Nice, no wonder the show's goin' so smoothly.   

[SciFiAuthor]

Luckily you are a fish mammal, because not much oxygen in them. But did you find my stolen bike in there?

I can only imagine how many bikes lay at the bottom of the canals. I did rent a canal boat once with an insane French mirage pilot that I know and he took us out into the Ij. Nearly got killed by a passing cruise ship. How that man was allowed to fly by the French Armée de l'air is a total mystery to me.

[Catsmile]

[Zenman]

I'm backstage tonight working as a roadie.

Hey aldous. Don't worry, we're saving you a hit.

[=Schlyder=]

I recall something from coffee shop that approached Light-Brown sugar in a rectangular form. And, another timeand place, some that look reddish-brown put on a pin but consistency of "Liquid Nails?"

the light brown sugar would have been a blonde hash... the reddish brown liquid type.. was oil extraction resin.. simply "oil"

[zeebo]

the light brown sugar would have been a blonde hash... the reddish brown liquid type.. was oil extraction resin.. simply "oil"

Schylde thanks for the info tonite, good stuff.  I mean, well, ya know, good stuff.

[AvDaBr]

I wonder if Herbn Legend is tuning in.

[albrecht]

Right, but weed is kind of a bitch. It takes awhile and a lot of resources to produce, it's really hard to smuggle and it has a rapidly dwindling profit margin. It amazes me there's still enough profit to warrant smuggling it. Especially when the quality of mexican is legendarily shitty.

You're right about the cultivation aspect. Up here in the Northwest, it's part of life. Every person I've known since I was 15 years old has smoked weed and even in prohibition days it was out in the open everywhere. I remember when I used to travel a lot, I'd pull out weed in New Mexico or Wyoming and people would flip the fuck out. Even reading how it's still taboo to some people in this thread is odd and like looking into a different era.

What's funny is all it takes for growers to get caught is the police to go to the power company. With smart meters and indoor growing light profiles, the power companies know where virtually every indoor/guerrilla grow is. But indoor growers consume 3% of the nation's electricity and most power companies want the money and keep their eyes shut.

I guess it depends and the "intricacies" of growing good stuff but in many places hemp can grow and goes wild like crazy. Like bamboo or invasive. As I mentioned I had hard time just CUTTING my stuff down on a porch planted containers!

[JamesMcDonald]

Hash is an extract of cannabis.  It is produced in several manners, producing slightly different final product.... but generally it is a putty like texture. One crumbles a small bit into a pipe and takes single hits.  Or one can crumble and mix with cannabis in a joint. several other methods  LOL. 

Black hash (India), blonde hash(Lebanon), red hash (Moroccan) ,  are three types of hash

Black hash is a hand rubbed hash.  resin is collected on the hands and then rubbed off and formed into balls etc.
Blonde hash is a dry sifted hash.  dry cannabis is rubbed on fine screens and the resin gland fall thru and are collected, and then pressed into forms.
red hash is also a dry sift.

there is also ice water extraction ... as the resin is not water soluable, this is possible to extract using ice/water

Then there is oil extraction.  This is done by using a solvent, to wash the resin from the cannabis plant.
this solvent could be pure alcohol, or isopropyl alcohol.  It also could be butane extracted.  These methods are more dangerous, obviously as you are using solvents/compressed gas and should not be attempted by untrained people.

You forgot to mention bubble hash.  One of the best. 

We smoked almost nothing but hash in Montreal.  Usually blonde Leb, sometimes Kashmir came to town if we were lucky.

[zeebo]

I wonder if Herbn Legend is tuning in.

.. turning on

[aldousburbank]

or turning on

Or dropped out.

[albrecht]

the light brown sugar would have been a blonde hash... the reddish brown liquid type.. was oil extraction resin.. simply "oil"

Thanks! So much knowledge on BG.

[GravitySucks]

I guess it depends and the "intricacies" of growing good stuff but in many places hemp can grow and goes wild like crazy. Like bamboo or invasive. As I mentioned I had hard time just CUTTING my stuff down on a porch planted containers!

When I was stationed in Omaha the ditches were lined with ditch weed growing next to the corn fields.  Towards the end of summer, you would see a lot of out of state plates parked along the sides of the roads filling there trunks.  Seem to remember a lot of Michigan plates. Probably got more headaches than highs.

[=Schlyder=]

I guess it depends and the "intricacies" of growing good stuff but in many places hemp can grow and goes wild like crazy. Like bamboo or invasive. As I mentioned I had hard time just CUTTING my stuff down on a porch planted containers!

yes, but there is a difference between growing fine connoisseur quality bud, and a unkept wild growing bunch of hemp. LOL

[zeebo]

I love alcohol, but it's objectively awful.  Never feel like shit the next day with the other.  Unless I eat way too much.

I'm totally against alcohol .. with the following exceptions:

scotch
bourbon
cognac
martinis
red wine
beer

[Spinner]

Awesome show tonight (thank you, Heather).
Makes want to move to Colorado.

[aldousburbank]

yes, but there is a difference between growing fine connoisseur quality bud, and a unkept wild growing bunch of hemp. LOL

It's like the difference between Art Bell and George Noory.

[QuantumMystics]

[trostol]

I'm totally against alcohol .. with the following exceptions:

scotch
bourbon
cognac
martinis
red wine
beer

you missed vodka

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I'm not really interested in marijuana. But it seems to be quite interested in me.

[chandlerkaiden]

I'm totally against alcohol .. with the following exceptions:

scotch
bourbon
cognac
martinis
red wine
beer

Vodka, here.  Ugh.  Day it's in stores, where I'm at, I'm done with the booze for life.

[Zenman]

I know a few cannoiseurs, but I know more folks who will smoke pretty much anything.

[SciFiAuthor]

you missed vodka

Are you listening?

[albrecht]

yes, but there is a difference between growing fine connoisseur quality bud, and a unkept wild growing bunch of hemp. LOL

Or, for sure! But, it used to be, seem the method has been changes, that the "make it legal" movement used to be about the hemp for industrial, agricultural, fuel, paper, etc purposes, it seems a sea-change and it is about the THC (and associated aklaloids) for pain, fun, and TAXES.

[NefariousBanana]

Speaking of drugs, uh, Scott Weiland is dead.

[AvDaBr]

I'd like to hear Amy do the news after a few tokes.  I've never heard what a stoned robot sounds like.

[zeebo]

you missed vodka

Thank you for understaning martinis are made with gin ... damn kids these days and their 'vodka martinis'. 

But yeah, vodka too.