20151202 - Open Lines - Live Art Bell Chat Thread

[Zenman]

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THE GUEST CANCELED AND WE GOT OPEN LINES!%!!!!@$~

Calm down Sandra. Make some tea.

[Sean92008]

Is it verified that he's the dead suspect?

An early report was that this guy had an argument earlier at the x-mas party (oops, holiday party) and returned with his two cohorts.  A witness identified him and, supposedly, family members let the name out without going through law enforcement.  Word was L.E. wanted to contain that for some unknown reason...  Yeah, right.

Apparently, he went on Paternity leave and it was a contentious situation back in June (I think I heard that).   A lot of people left the department because of bad management, so nothing out of line with the rest of the office.

The "terrorist" factor is the story of his returning "ready to rumble," like he went there to blow some steam and then kill 'em all.

[Juan Cena]

Oh christ. Why didn't Art do this for Planned Parenthood. The silence of the right wing on stuff like that is sickening.

He was off on Friday?

[albrecht]

Hate to think it, but I'm wondering if this wasn't actually a diversion, the main event being called off.

Anytime I see a few shooters or a pipebomb I think bigger op going down elsewhere. The skinhead types in the NW liked to set off a bomb and then rob a bank. The Muslim crazies often like to set up a shooting or bombing and then target first responders or do a bigger op in another place. Sad but that is the mentality. IRA taught the Muzzies how to car bomb. And the world goes on.
The US has had terror events for decades, ebbs and flows. Anarchist bombings anyone? Bombing UW chemlab? OKC? Unibomber? Islamic Center siege? etc etc etc.

[Lt.Uhura]

Alex Jones will say it was a false flag operation.

I think his followers already have--within 60 seconds of the breaking news.  Trigger-like reflexes!
http://www.vocativ.com/news/257009/just-60-seconds-after-shooting-san-bernardino-truthers-wave-the-falseflag/

[JamesMcDonald]

Here's an overhead view of the center.

The red area is the site of the shooting.

The building just below that is a school for the blind.  A large group of blind people were in there and they heard the shooting and had no idea what to do.  That's horrible.

[Sandra Kristen]

He was off on Friday?

Nah he had open lines that was ruined by Michelle.

[Richard Groyper]

Oh christ. Why didn't Art do this for Planned Parenthood. The silence of the right wing on stuff like that is sickening.

Why didn't you start a PP-shooting thread?

[Dateline]

This is the talk that Art can have a conversation with and will impact us.

[albrecht]

I think his followers already have--within 60 seconds of the breaking news.  Trigger-like reflexes!
http://www.vocativ.com/news/257009/just-60-seconds-after-shooting-san-bernardino-truthers-wave-the-falseflag/

Yep, it was weird how one of the first articles in the LA Times interviewed a lady there saying how she thought it was one of the drills since they have them so frequently. So even if not a "false-flag," doubt it was, is this over-training and fake-drills making people actually more likely to be victims?

[zeebo]

So tired of hearing we can't do anything since it serves as "recruiting tools" for them. 

First, it's not like they don't hate us already and second, shouldn't this kind of brutality serve as recruiting tools for us? 

[GuerrillaUnReal]

What are Arabs going to do? That's like saying the average American needs to get involved in American drone strikes. The fuck am I going to do about that?

[Sandra Kristen]

Why didn't you start a PP-shooting thread?

The fact that none was started said everything that needed to be said.

[trostol]

aliens are just gonna come by and nuke this planet

[VtaGeezer]

This was too heavy an attack to be spontaneous.  My hunch is that he was at the buffet to verify it was a good target, then made up some tiff to join the rest of the team and execute the plan.

[QuantumMystics]

Oh God, Arab nations? Islamic followers did this, Mohammad gives them guidance and serves as the role model, governments maybe totally outside the scope of the problem....my patience has already worn thin with Islam in general, it fosters a insane mentality towards the way nature and the world works.

[=Schlyder=]

 LOL, so  you are trying to compare the lone white nutjob,   to today's jihadis?  pretty weak.

[chefist]

The best minds of BellGab on the left have suggested, "play dead or run"...what other options are there? hmmmm fight back maybe?

[Autistic Star Children]

not the right song for today

[Richard Groyper]

The fact that none was started said everything that needed to be said.

Then why didn't you personally start one?

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Al Jazerra reported the original argument before the shooting was over tentacle porn. I kid you not.

[Dateline]

Tonight England declared war on Syria and is to begin bombing.  There is a lot going on in this country and internationally that is important.  One night of this when the news is taking place is not uncalled for in my opinion.

[Sandra Kristen]

The best minds of BellGab on the left have suggested, "play dead or run"...what other option are there? hmmmm fight back maybe?

Ah yes the war on terror. How did that invasion of Iraq go?

[trostol]

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/10/09/saudi-born-singer-criticizes-arab-countries-for-blaming-the-west-for-their-longstanding-problems/

[norland2424]

The fact that none was started said everything that needed to be said.

Lol can we just nuke the whole world now?

[JamesMcDonald]

Nah he had open lines that was ruined by Michelle.

Uh Oh, what did she do this time?

[Rat-eating Hater]

This first caller just needs to think happy thoughts about unicorns and stuff. That will make Sudden Jihad Syndrome go away.

[trostol]

Al Jazerra reported the original argument before the shooting was over tentacle porn. I kid you not.

great lord Cthulhu says thats not his idea of fun

[Zenman]

Anytime I see a few shooters or a pipebomb I think bigger op going down elsewhere. The skinhead types in the NW liked to set off a bomb and then rob a bank. The Muslim crazies often like to set up a shooting or bombing and then target first responders or do a bigger op in another place. Sad but that is the mentality. IRA taught the Muzzies how to car bomb. And the world goes on.
The US has had terror events for decades, ebbs and flows. Anarchist bombings anyone? Bombing UW chemlab? OKC? Unibomber? Islamic Center siege? etc etc etc.

Like Art said, this was a soft target. Massive amounts of LE personnel were summoned there and not available for other areas, or were at least were some distance away.

[Richard Groyper]

brb, gotta make jihad on the toilet.