Totally respect and admire Linda.
Have you done anything in the paranormal field, guys?
Have you done anything in the paranormal field, guys?
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Show posts MenuQuote from: b_dubb on October 17, 2010, 03:41:36 PM
well i never said he WASN'T a complete monster. merely that there may be another side to that story
Quote from: b_dubb on October 17, 2010, 12:35:49 PMQuote from: anomalies on October 17, 2010, 07:41:16 AMQuote from: b_dubb on October 15, 2010, 07:08:51 PMQuote from: anomalies on October 15, 2010, 06:01:01 PMI am disappointed that Roman Polanski escaped the law for so many years after raping a child for his own amusement (no longer watch his movies either - many of them, like Chinatown have sick themes anyway)
i've seen some evidence that Polanski was practically framed by the police. the LAPD kept harassing him until he began to consider a plea deal. he agreed to the plea deal but then the LAPD/District Attorney reneged on the deal and tried to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. was a crime committed? i don't really know. but there's at least the chance that some less than straightforward dealings were involved.
i'm a fan of his films and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after hearing some of the stories about the LAPD/DA behavior
It's nice that you are so forgiving. Had it been you or your sister he raped, and someone accused you of making the story up, and stating that the police 'framed' him, how would you feel then?
Polanski was identified by the 13-year old girl and had just prior to the rape had been in her mother's house, where Polanski picked her up the day of the rape. I don't remember the whole story, but he was not framed. The girl testified again within the last few years, and said she doesn't want him to go to jail - she'd rather forget the whole thing. BTW, her wishes wouldn't matter anyway - she was a child and underage - that's rape.
The reason her mother let her go off with him was because the mother was greedy and thought Polanski would spend big bucks on her daughter, make her a star or at least a well-paid model. She thought he was going to take modeling photos that might lead to acting jobs. She also thought a caregiver went with her daughter, but Polanski prevented her from going, apparently without the mother's consent. The mother was also naive.
Polanski is a viper. When he raped 13-year old Samantha Geimer, he did so against her wishes, because she begged him not to rape her and often said, "No" during this unforgivable act. Again, whether this rape occurred with or without her consent, she was underage. It was rape. See this list of highlights: Polanski event list. You will also note that the police didn't charge him right away. They were careful to check out the girl and her mother's stories first, so where this 'framing' thing comes from is a mystery to me.
what i'm saying is that there is some question as to what actually happened. and i didn't say framing. the DA and LAPD may have seen an opportunity to advance their careers with a high profile case
Quote from: MV on October 16, 2010, 01:55:51 AM
Something I'd like to add...
I started listening to Coast To Coast back when it was the Art Bell Show. For me, it will always be the Art Bell Show. I don't, nor could I ever., view Art as being replaceable. Everybody else is just second rate as host of the show... some more than others.
Quote from: b_dubb on October 15, 2010, 07:08:51 PMQuote from: anomalies on October 15, 2010, 06:01:01 PMI am disappointed that Roman Polanski escaped the law for so many years after raping a child for his own amusement (no longer watch his movies either - many of them, like Chinatown have sick themes anyway)
i've seen some evidence that Polanski was practically framed by the police. the LAPD kept harassing him until he began to consider a plea deal. he agreed to the plea deal but then the LAPD/District Attorney reneged on the deal and tried to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. was a crime committed? i don't really know. but there's at least the chance that some less than straightforward dealings were involved.
i'm a fan of his films and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after hearing some of the stories about the LAPD/DA behavior
Quote from: b_dubb on October 14, 2010, 10:57:24 AM
in the span of Art's career in broadcasting ... how many times do you think he's had to say "TURN YOUR RADIO OFF"? i'm betting that has something to do with why he seems 'unfriendly' at times. cause people have a seemingly limitless capacity for stupidity
Quote from: 11angeleyes11 on October 13, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
I know how to shake it up!
Next week have a week of American Coast to Coast Hosts! All week a host would have a guest and a hour to slot for an interview with that guest. These hosts would come from signing up with the local affliatates. The only restriction is that they must host within the Coast show genre and have shown an interest in that area.
Each nite there will be three hosts and the last hour would be callers commenting in an open line segment. Art Bell or Ian would alternate the manning of the phones. Then, during that last hour, the listeners would supply the winning host through the Instapol. With four nights you would have four hosts and they would come back for the Friday nite and the winner of the week would be selected. After four weeks, you would have four winning hosts. Then, the battle of the Coast hosts would be held. The winner would get Noory's contract through 2012.
I do NOT think that would be boring and bland.
Quote from: MV on October 13, 2010, 03:43:14 PM
one more thing, anomalies... i know where you're coming from, and i'm not surprised by you or anyone else who feels the way you do about art. he often comes across as an impatient, dismissive man who harbors some sort of deeply seeded resentment toward others. i can't explain it, but i totally see it and understand it. i have said before that if i were given the opportunity to meet art, i'd turn it down. i think it would be such a disappointment. i see it when someone compliments him and he responds with a palpable disinterest. actually, it's almost a disgust he shows when someone compliments him.
i furthermore am not impressed by how he's abandoned his children. as someone who hasn't seen his biological father since age 5 (which, for me, has become a personal choice rather than a circumstance), i understand how disappointing that must be to his kids, particularly with the fame he's acquired. i don't think he's the kind of guy who has an easy time seeing the world through the eyes of other people, especially as it relates to his own actions.
in other words... i'll bet art is an asshole.
THAT SAID... i don't care about any of this. none of it is my business, and it doesn't affect the enjoyability of the program for me. if anything, with the number of kooks who appear on c2c and who need/deserve manhandling, art's disposition is a boon to the program. i don't want some guy to come on the show and suggest jesus was from venus and hear the words "absolutely" or "fascinating" follow such a suggestion. i just wouldn't be able to continue listening to something on the order of that.
Quote from: MV on October 13, 2010, 03:26:37 PMQuote from: anomalies on October 12, 2010, 11:37:15 PM
When it's a guest, you need to ask questions to put them on the spot if they don't make sense, not say, 'Well, I believe...,' because I don't give a r@t's behind what Art Bell thinks. I am tuned in to listen to someone else's point of view, and it ain't the host's! If we wanted to listen to Art Bell, George Noory or Ian what's-his-name's opinion, they should get their own show, called 'My Opinion ...' I do wish Noory's interview skills would improve.
thing is, i do tune in to hear what art thinks and what he has to say. he is intelligent, he has a wide array of life experience to draw upon, he's a great conversationalist, and more often than not his input is responsible for transforming what would otherwise have been a bland, throw-away guest/interview into something memorable. there are countless examples of that happening.
if people didn't tune in specifically because of the host, then we'd listen to these guests on any old shit-bag talk show they ended up on... but we typically don't. most guests themselves don't bring enough to the table to sustain three hours of spoken content. the host must use his personality, experience, intellect, and his control over the show to snatch a guest's ideas from what would otherwise be a swirling hurricane of concepts and focus them in a package which is presentable in broadcast form.
i think the guest is just that... a guest. the host is supposed to make it interesting. otherwise, anybody could be a host... but few can.
Quote from: ringthane on October 12, 2010, 02:03:32 AMQuote from: anomalies on October 11, 2010, 03:36:05 PM
Hi, ringthane. I'm sorry to say this, but I think those visits from the Secret Service have turned Bell into what appears to be a paranoid old man. Is he really paranoid? Don't know, but it seems that way. (How many times has he quit?) Paranoia can do things to ya.
I don't miss Art. I prefer Noory over Bell, because Noory is a kinder person.
I do think something is up at C2C and I think the format change (mixed guests) is just the tip of the iceberg, which includes annoying and sad changes.
Anomalies, that's where we differ -- I don't see George's kindness as an asset, but as a liability.
Yes, Art could be brief, brusque, abrupt, and at rare times even rude. To me, it didn't distract from the show. George's kindness occasionally benefits the show/format, but more often than not his hospitality causes the show to drag because he doesn't manage the callers/guests efficiently. Just my opinion.
I do agree, however, that something seems to be going on behind the scenes.
Quote from: starrmtn001 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:16 PM
I did years ago - and got banned soon after for making a non-offensive pun about something snoory said. It was a Malaprop of some sort - funnier 'n hell and I said as much. Probably the last post I ever made there.
-NOT!
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on October 10, 2010, 09:21:25 PM
It's still under lockdown.
Quote from: ArtBellFan on October 10, 2010, 12:45:23 PMQuote from: ShelliesMom on October 05, 2010, 10:12:13 PM
What the heck is up with that site? ? I really believe those "members" are all sock puppets that George Noory had somebody create. It's complete, unadulterated drivel. And that "BadBoy" dude. I guess he feels nobody else has a radio or are total idiots. It can't be a real site; it just can't be.
For example, somebody posted, and I quote, "Here comes the music (insert funny emoticon)! Hi, George!"
If anybody knows more about this ridiculous crap fest of a site, I'd love to know more.
I know BadBoy from Fantastic Forum, he got and banned and NHZ was the result, I actually know his real name, where he lives and his phone number, no I won't give out that information. I agree he is obsessed with snoory, I tried to join his forum when he first put it up and because he knew that I have never listened to snoory and agreed with all the bashing on FF at one time he wouldn't let me join, I had a good laugh over that as I didn't really want to be a member. He is a Hollywood wanna be and would do anything to get mentioned on Coast and would brag ad nauseam when he did get mentioned. I will say one good thing about him, he was a huge Art Bell fan and used to send me shows all the time back in the day and I know he didn't want Art to retire and he did not like snoory in the beginning, he probably still doesn't but is hanging on just in case snoory gives him a job or connects him with the Hollywood powers that be. Kissing butt hasn't worked so far.
Quote from: ringthane on October 10, 2010, 02:36:41 AM
Wasn't George's original night time radio show in STL called the Night Hawk? Or maybe that was his nickname or his 'handle' for his on air persona.
So, I 'get' where fans of his from the original St Louis show would create a board dedicated to Snoory, and were double thrilled when he took over such a prestigious show.
But fan sites that don't allow dissent is creepy and just kinda deflates the value of being a fan in the first place.
As much as I love Art, he has quirks that irritate me and it's fun for like-minded fans to get together in a forum and blow some steam. I'm not into hagiography, but then again I wouldn't expect Noory or his NHZ minions to even understand that.
Speaking of Art criticism... I don't remember precisely when this happened, because Art retired/unretired more than Michael Jordan and Brett Favre combined. I think this was just prior to his second retirement, after he had replaced the terrible Mike Siegel.
I swear, about 4 weeks before Art had announced his second retirement I knew that something was up. He sounded... exhausted. Mentally wiped. He sounded as though he was just phoning it in, on auto-pilot. For that stretch, it seemed like he had Richard C. on every other night and just let that loon rave and ramble so Art didn't have to book guests or conduct interviews, do research or show prep, etc. Within a few weeks of that, Art had announced his 2nd retirement. It was a bad stretch of radio and painful to listen to.
I'm noticing Snoory really dropping the ball during interviews lately, I have to wonder if something is brewing behind the scenes. Or maybe I'm just more keenly aware of his lameness due to hanging out at Coastgab.
Quote from: general jamison johnson on September 26, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
The guy who was flying his little airplane into area 51 was awesome. Remember that one? Probably a hoax but was great. You could hear the fighter jets flying past him and air raid sirens in the background, and he's going "This probably wasn't a good idea."
Area 51 pilot phones Art Bell-REAL original broadcast
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 09:07:15 PMQuote from: anomalies on October 09, 2010, 02:04:49 PMi think the guy was from denmark.Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
anomalies... i heard someone on that broadcast say, "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job." are you referring to him?
I don't remember that quote. Niels Harrit said that he watched the fall of Building 7 with his mouth wide open, and then watch it again and again, several times, before he realized it was most likely a controlled demolition, but I don't recall him ever saying "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job." Maybe Richard Gage did?
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 09:06:01 PMQuote from: anomalies on October 09, 2010, 02:04:49 PMit was syd barrett of pink floyd... until i changed it to the noory commodity center.
Anyway, I wanted to ask you about your avatar. Looks familiar. Who is that? Thanks.
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on October 09, 2010, 10:38:37 PMQuote from: Do you think it was angels? on October 09, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
Seems to me we should all visit and say hello at the same time.
They read my mind!!!
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Quote from: Marc Knight on September 28, 2010, 08:07:17 PM
"Do you think asteroids have a brain and know which side of the planet to crash into?"
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
anomalies... i heard someone on that broadcast say, "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job." are you referring to him?
Quote from: racefanwfo on October 05, 2010, 03:56:13 PM
ian punnett is a jerk off and should be removed from the show.
george knapp should be the host every sat & sun.
get rid of ian punnett now.
Quote from: PhantasticSanShiSan on October 03, 2010, 10:41:43 PMQuote from: anomalies on September 26, 2010, 08:50:48 AMQuote from: nightshift on September 19, 2010, 07:30:24 PM
couple of pics I took at this years sevent in Pt. Pleasant WV
Mothman was a scary figure, according to John Keel.
I have met researcher and cryptozoologist, Loren Coleman, who brought a mothman doll to the meeting. I tried to buy it off him, but he said 'no.' Boo hoo.
I met him this past weekend. Pretty sure I saw the doll in the museum. He's got tons of that funky stuff - mothman dolls, bigfoot dolls, chupacabra dolls. It's obvious that he collects anything related to cryptozoology. And he was a pretty cool guy too. Little bit cheesy at first (on the tour), but when I spoke him one on one, he was quite cool. I was surprised by his attitude towards cryptozoology - I expected him to push the fantastical aspects of CZ but he didn't.
Quote from: ShelliesMom on October 05, 2010, 10:12:13 PM
What the heck is up with that site?? I really believe those "members" are all sock puppets that George Noory had somebody create. It's complete, unadulterated drivel. And that "BadBoy" dude. I guess he feels nobody else has a radio or are total idiots. It can't be a real site; it just can't be.
For example, somebody posted, and I quote, "Here comes the music (insert funny emoticon)! Hi, George!"
If anybody knows more about this ridiculous crap fest of a site, I'd love to know more.
Quote from: MV on September 29, 2010, 06:26:27 AMQuote from: anomalies on September 29, 2010, 12:45:50 AMi don't know. to me, that's a pretty tough sell to ask for money ($40 per year) to listen to a podcast, even if it is really good.Quote from: b_dubb on September 28, 2010, 08:50:14 PMNo, not quite. These 'faceless suits' as you call them have an agenda. It appears they want to dumb down America and the world even more than they are already dumbed down. Or perhaps ultimately they have a more nefarious reason? Who are the guests that don't get on C2C anymore or only in a limited fashion? The somewhat shady, but not without some merit, Alex Jones. Who is treated (by George Noory, as well as others there) with a degree of disrespect? Richard C. Hoagland, and even Linda Moulton-Howe to some degree. They both have been apparently told to zip it with regard to some subjects, in my opinion. George treats Richard C. like he runs off at the mouth for no reason and has cut off Linda Howe in a rude way for having a 'poor phone' connection, when I didn't hear anything wrong with her phone! She said almost nothing that night. She asked him when the next time she could talk about the bees situation (there were some new theories), as well as other subject matter, and George told her "the next time you're scheduled to be on!" You could almost hear him call her a b!+@^. She was next scheduled to be on a month away! And she did not actually talk about those subjects the next time she was on with George! But, you know who did let her talk? Whitley Strieber from http://www.unknowncountry.com. They have a free online radio program every Saturday called Dreamland. I never miss it. If you have the money to subscribe to his program, which includes archives, private chat sessions and product discounts, he is smaller than C2C and could use the money to keep his program going. It's not owned by a huge conglomerate, like Clear Channel is. Money well spent.
so a faceless corporation probably BOUGHT Art's show, right? so over time ... these suits that work at the faceless corporation sit in meetings and flap their gums about shit for hours on end. at some point, someone has to do something otherwise it will become readily apparent to everyone that those suits are in fact worthless pieces of shit. so they issue memos. and stuff.
so basically you have a bunch of people who have no real connection to C2C ... no interest ... no point of reference .... making decisions about the direction of the show. and that's why it's slowly turning into a pile of shit in front of George Noory because on paper ... he probably looked like a good idea. but these suits don't relate to the show because they are NOT the C2C audience.
does that help?
i know it's just a matter of opinion, and mine certainly is blessed with no assumption of inherent correctness, but i've never even been able to stomach strieber as either a guest or a host. first off, his voice just grates on me with its monotone flatness and its pendulum cadence. he makes me so bored and sleepy. furthermore, when he and art both got on the whole superstorm kick, that really sealed the deal for me as far as strieber is concerned (alien probes aside), and it even dropped art back a few notches for me as well. it wouldn't have been a problem if they'd presented it as just a good fictional story written by two men with a lifelong interest in the unusual. however, they went so far beyond that, presenting the superstorm book as some sort of scientifically legitimate glimpse of what awaits us; a clarion call. neither man has the credentials to make such an assertion, nor is there any historical precedent to suggest they were even in the right ballpark. i'm growing a bit fatigued with people making money off of the whole "green" fad.
QuoteThey wondered how the stomach contents remained half decayed while the animals froze? This is a problem since it takes a long time to freeze an animal as large as an elephant. A quick freeze came to mind. Birds Eye Frozen Foods Company ran the calculations and came up with a staggering â€"150°F (â€"100°C). Once again, the scientists were puzzled. How could such temperatures be reached on earth, especially when apparently they were in a fairly temperate environment before the quick freeze?
Quote from: b_dubb on September 28, 2010, 08:50:14 PMNo, not quite. These 'faceless suits' as you call them have an agenda. It appears they want to dumb down America and the world even more than they are already dumbed down. Or perhaps ultimately they have a more nefarious reason? Who are the guests that don't get on C2C anymore or only in a limited fashion? The somewhat shady, but not without some merit, Alex Jones. Who is treated (by George Noory, as well as others there) with a degree of disrespect? Richard C. Hoagland, and even Linda Moulton-Howe to some degree. They both have been apparently told to zip it with regard to some subjects, in my opinion. George treats Richard C. like he runs off at the mouth for no reason and has cut off Linda Howe in a rude way for having a 'poor phone' connection, when I didn't hear anything wrong with her phone! She said almost nothing that night. She asked him when the next time she could talk about the bees situation (there were some new theories), as well as other subject matter, and George told her "the next time you're scheduled to be on!" You could almost hear him call her a b!+@^. She was next scheduled to be on a month away! And she did not actually talk about those subjects the next time she was on with George! But, you know who did let her talk? Whitley Strieber from http://www.unknowncountry.com. They have a free online radio program every Saturday called Dreamland. I never miss it. If you have the money to subscribe to his program, which includes archives, private chat sessions and product discounts, he is smaller than C2C and could use the money to keep his program going. It's not owned by a huge conglomerate, like Clear Channel is. Money well spent.
so a faceless corporation probably BOUGHT Art's show, right? so over time ... these suits that work at the faceless corporation sit in meetings and flap their gums about shit for hours on end. at some point, someone has to do something otherwise it will become readily apparent to everyone that those suits are in fact worthless pieces of shit. so they issue memos. and stuff.
so basically you have a bunch of people who have no real connection to C2C ... no interest ... no point of reference .... making decisions about the direction of the show. and that's why it's slowly turning into a pile of shit in front of George Noory because on paper ... he probably looked like a good idea. but these suits don't relate to the show because they are NOT the C2C audience.
does that help?