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Started by MV/Liberace!, February 08, 2012, 10:50:42 AM



Dr. MD MD

Wow! I like this guy. He was one of the more reasonable voices on Fox and they destroyed his life because he's a conservative Trump supporter I guess?  ??? ::)

http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/left-gets-vicious-celebrates-death-of-eric-bollings-son/


pate

At what price Cuban Cigars


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeGw32e5Em4

Have you ever seen such a thing over Havana?

Appropriate, donut accents, <applause>;





https://www.facebook.com/MikeCernovich/videos/1301005116695204/




This is disgusting. The worst offender is Richard Keenan who raped a 4 year girl but said the girl was a willing participant.  >:( >:( >:( A 4 year old girl is a willing participant. All of these former mayors should be locked up and the key should be thrown away and then some big brute of a con can assrape them for the duration of their lives.  I don't care about the party affiliation as there are bad eggs in the Republican Party like Hastert but most of these mayors if not all appear to be Democrats.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/13/at-least-11-mayors-accused-of-child-sex-related-crimes-since-2016/


Of particular note also is former Seattle mayor Ed Murray who resigned as mayor yesterday.

USS Jimmy Carter, a SSN Fast Attack sub has returned home to Kitsap in Washington flying the Jolly Roger.   
Seems like this is a tradition after the success of a mission during a patrol.  Carter is a special boat modified for carrying SEALs,
ROVs and the like.  Wonder what they were up to?  Nork related mission maybe?




https://www.dvidshub.net/image/3754953/uss-jimmy-carter-returns-naval-base-kitsap-bangor

https://twitter.com/IanJKeddie/status/908045395552595969

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 14, 2017, 06:32:36 AM
USS Jimmy Carter, a SSN Fast Attack sub has returned home to Kitsap in Washington flying the Jolly Roger.   
Seems like this is a tradition after the success of a mission during a patrol.  Carter is a special boat modified for carrying SEALs,
ROVs and the like.  Wonder what they were up to?  Nork related mission maybe?




https://www.dvidshub.net/image/3754953/uss-jimmy-carter-returns-naval-base-kitsap-bangor

https://twitter.com/IanJKeddie/status/908045395552595969

I thought the Jolly Roger was a Royal Navy tradition.  Hopefully Kidnostad3 will weigh in on this.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 14, 2017, 08:29:36 AM
I thought the Jolly Roger was a Royal Navy tradition.  Hopefully Kidnostad3 will weigh in on this.

I knew the RN boats flew it after operations, maybe its a crossover tradition? Buccaneers  in Gulf war 1 flew jolly rogers as nose art. Sky Pirates.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 14, 2017, 09:07:06 AM
I knew the RN boats flew it after operations, maybe its a crossover tradition? Buccaneers  in Gulf war 1 flew jolly rogers as nose art. Sky Pirates.

Sure you did...sure you did.  ::) ;D

Yorkshire pud

I see the swamp Trump was draining didn't extend to Mnuchin and his then new bride..He wanted to use a government jet for his honeymoon. And no, he didn't think he should pay for it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-mnuchin-wanted-government-jet-for-his-honeymoon-2017-9 

Jackstar

the three-week-old face of fascist distraction


You're never going to make the big leagues, Kid.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on September 14, 2017, 09:59:40 AM
the three-week-old face of fascist distraction


You're never going to make the big leagues, Kid.


Michelle!! Where you been baby? Been in rehab?  ;D

Kidnostad3

Brooms!  I want to see brooms attached to periscope shears. 


During World War II, American submarine crews, eager to showcase their many accomplishments, revived the practice. If a boat sank every target with which she engaged over the course of a patrol, the crew attached brooms to the periscope shears so their success, a “clean sweep,” was on display as they entered port.
In recent years, subs have displayed their clean-sweep brooms in a variety of contexts. When USS CHEYENNE (SSN-773), supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003, put all the TOMAHAWK missiles she launched on target without any duds or failures, her captain determined that that constituted a clean sweep. Other boats, such as USS OHIO (SSGN-726, after her conversion to a guided-missile boat) and USS VIRGINIA (SSN-774) have hoisted brooms after successful Alpha sea trials.
Perhaps the most unusual clean sweep was achieved in 2000 by the Military Sealift Command (MSC), which controls most of the Navy’s transport and replenishment ships. When the Y2K bug prowling through the command’s computers was finally vanquished, an MSC crewmember proudly hung a broom from the yardarm of the flagpole outside the command’s headquarters to celebrate the virtual clean sweep.

http://ussnautilus.org/blog/making-a-clean-sweep/



Taaroa

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on September 14, 2017, 10:37:59 AM
Brooms!  I want to see brooms attached to periscope shears. 


During World War II, American submarine crews, eager to showcase their many accomplishments, revived the practice. If a boat sank every target with which she engaged over the course of a patrol, the crew attached brooms to the periscope shears so their success, a “clean sweep,” was on display as they entered port.
In recent years, subs have displayed their clean-sweep brooms in a variety of contexts. When USS CHEYENNE (SSN-773), supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003, put all the TOMAHAWK missiles she launched on target without any duds or failures, her captain determined that that constituted a clean sweep. Other boats, such as USS OHIO (SSGN-726, after her conversion to a guided-missile boat) and USS VIRGINIA (SSN-774) have hoisted brooms after successful Alpha sea trials.
Perhaps the most unusual clean sweep was achieved in 2000 by the Military Sealift Command (MSC), which controls most of the Navy’s transport and replenishment ships. When the Y2K bug prowling through the command’s computers was finally vanquished, an MSC crewmember proudly hung a broom from the yardarm of the flagpole outside the command’s headquarters to celebrate the virtual clean sweep.

http://ussnautilus.org/blog/making-a-clean-sweep/

Somewhat related:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/09/13/why-did-one-of-the-u-s-navys-most-advanced-subs-return-to-port-with-a-pirate-flag/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on September 14, 2017, 10:37:59 AM
Brooms!  I want to see brooms attached to periscope shears. 


During World War II, American submarine crews, eager to showcase their many accomplishments, revived the practice. If a boat sank every target with which she engaged over the course of a patrol, the crew attached brooms to the periscope shears so their success, a “clean sweep,” was on display as they entered port.
In recent years, subs have displayed their clean-sweep brooms in a variety of contexts. When USS CHEYENNE (SSN-773), supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003, put all the TOMAHAWK missiles she launched on target without any duds or failures, her captain determined that that constituted a clean sweep. Other boats, such as USS OHIO (SSGN-726, after her conversion to a guided-missile boat) and USS VIRGINIA (SSN-774) have hoisted brooms after successful Alpha sea trials.
Perhaps the most unusual clean sweep was achieved in 2000 by the Military Sealift Command (MSC), which controls most of the Navy’s transport and replenishment ships. When the Y2K bug prowling through the command’s computers was finally vanquished, an MSC crewmember proudly hung a broom from the yardarm of the flagpole outside the command’s headquarters to celebrate the virtual clean sweep.

http://ussnautilus.org/blog/making-a-clean-sweep/

I just hope swabbing the poop deck isn't what I think it is.  :o ;D

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 14, 2017, 09:07:06 AM
I knew the RN boats flew it after operations, maybe its a crossover tradition? Buccaneers  in Gulf war 1 flew jolly rogers as nose art. Sky Pirates.

The Brits put some relatively risque nose art, including topless woman, on their a/c flying out of Muslim countries during the Gulf War.  I asked an RAF exchange officer (who flew Jaguars during the war) if he was aware of any offense taken/complaints made by the host Muslim nations where the RAF jets were based.  He said unlike the Americans, the Brits, who had a long history in the Middle East, didn't worry about offending the Muslims. According to him the Brits basically told the Arabs if they didn't like the way they did business, they'd go back home and let Saddam overrun them.  A far cry from the US requiring Christian chaplains to remove their cross patches/badges and changing their title to "morale officers".

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 14, 2017, 03:02:50 PM
The Brits put some relatively risque nose art, including topless woman, on their a/c flying out of Muslim countries during the Gulf War.  I asked an RAF exchange officer (who flew Jaguars during the war) if he was aware of any offense taken/complaints made by the host Muslim nations where the RAF jets were based.  He said unlike the Americans, the Brits, who had a long history in the Middle East, didn't worry about offending the Muslims. According to him the Brits basically told the Arabs if they didn't like the way they did business, they'd go back home and let Saddam overrun them.  A far cry from the US requiring Christian chaplains to remove their cross patches/badges and changing their title to "morale officers".

SA had Tonkas at the time, their pilots trained by the RAF. So I can see why there was an element of 'Like it or lump it' attitude. They also had at least one Tonka sim at Riyadh in an air conditioned hanger (as specified by Redifusion simulation who were supplying it) that in the wisdom of the Saudis was accessible via a corridor that had a ninety degree corner in it! Not good. The corridor had to be bulldozed and a conventional roller door installed before the sim could be put in place.

The Jaguar wasn't a good looking aeroplane though, good ground attack (I think terrain following radar) but not pretty.  :)

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 14, 2017, 03:02:50 PM
The Brits put some relatively risque nose art, including topless woman, on their a/c flying out of Muslim countries during the Gulf War.  I asked an RAF exchange officer (who flew Jaguars during the war) if he was aware of any offense taken/complaints made by the host Muslim nations where the RAF jets were based.  He said unlike the Americans, the Brits, who had a long history in the Middle East, didn't worry about offending the Muslims. According to him the Brits basically told the Arabs if they didn't like the way they did business, they'd go back home and let Saddam overrun them.  A far cry from the US requiring Christian chaplains to remove their cross patches/badges and changing their title to "morale officers".

Popular Mechanics take on the matter:  Possibly a tap on the Norks fiber optic cable into China up the Yalu river via an unmanned vehicle - a pretty cool feat if that what it was..........  Another theory was some electronic snooping. 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a28209/navy-spy-sub-jolly-roger-uss-jimmy-carter/

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 14, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
Popular Mechanics take on the matter:  Possibly a tap on the Norks fiber optic cable into China up the Yalu river via an unmanned vehicle - a pretty cool feat if that what it was..........  Another theory was some electronic snooping. 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a28209/navy-spy-sub-jolly-roger-uss-jimmy-carter/


As covert top secret missions go, that doesn't really meet the criteria.. ;)

Taaroa

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 14, 2017, 03:02:50 PM
The Brits put some relatively risque nose art, including topless woman, on their a/c flying out of Muslim countries during the Gulf War.  I asked an RAF exchange officer (who flew Jaguars during the war) if he was aware of any offense taken/complaints made by the host Muslim nations where the RAF jets were based.  He said unlike the Americans, the Brits, who had a long history in the Middle East, didn't worry about offending the Muslims. According to him the Brits basically told the Arabs if they didn't like the way they did business, they'd go back home and let Saddam overrun them.  A far cry from the US requiring Christian chaplains to remove their cross patches/badges and changing their title to "morale officers".


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 14, 2017, 03:02:50 PM
The Brits put some relatively risque nose art, including topless woman, on their a/c flying out of Muslim countries during the Gulf War.  I asked an RAF exchange officer (who flew Jaguars during the war) if he was aware of any offense taken/complaints made by the host Muslim nations where the RAF jets were based.  He said unlike the Americans, the Brits, who had a long history in the Middle East, didn't worry about offending the Muslims. According to him the Brits basically told the Arabs if they didn't like the way they did business, they'd go back home and let Saddam overrun them.  A far cry from the US requiring Christian chaplains to remove their cross patches/badges and changing their title to "morale officers".


You prompted me to look...There are dozens!! A few of the ones on very beat up aircraft. Buccs, Tonkas,  Victor Tanker, Jag. Lots of Pavespike missions.

https://defenceoftherealm.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/aircraft-gallery-tornado-gr-1-gulf-war-nose-art/










Taaroa

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 14, 2017, 05:09:10 PM

You prompted me to look...There are dozens!! A few of the ones on very beat up aircraft. Buccs, Tonkas,  Victor Tanker, Jag. Lots of Pavespike missions.


I suppose the UK doesn't even allow aircraft art anymore?


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Taaroa on September 14, 2017, 05:55:04 PM
I suppose the UK doesn't even allow aircraft art anymore?



I don't think the Typhoons have it. They've gone very dark with identifying marks in the last few years. They used to interview pilots face to face, they don't now. They're just referred to as 'pilot' if the reporter manages to blag a ride in the two seater. Tonkas are due to retire in a couple of years anyway.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 14, 2017, 05:09:10 PM

You prompted me to look...There are dozens!! A few of the ones on very beat up aircraft. Buccs, Tonkas,  Victor Tanker, Jag. Lots of Pavespike missions.

https://defenceoftherealm.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/aircraft-gallery-tornado-gr-1-gulf-war-nose-art/




I hesitate to look and see what the Japs, Koreans, etc put on their stuff considering their weird sexual comic-porn and peccadilloes. The mind boggles. And also hesitant about looking for RN stuff considering: 'rum, sodomy, and the lash' etc. But good on you for still painting stuff on RAF craft and keeping it, "well, within the bounds of good taste." (movie reference)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on September 14, 2017, 06:34:56 PM
I hesitate to look and see what the Japs, Koreans, etc put on their stuff considering their weird sexual comic-porn and peccadilloes. The mind boggles. And also hesitant about looking for RN stuff considering: 'rum, sodomy, and the lash' etc. But good on you for still painting stuff on RAF craft and keeping it, "well, within the bounds of good taste." (movie reference)

The Buccaneers (top and bottom photos.'Hello sailor' and 'Sea Witch') based at Lossiemouth Scotland had whiskies painted on too. The top one being Grouse of course. Finest strike bomber ever flown by the RN and RAF.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 14, 2017, 06:49:07 PM
The Buccaneers (top photo in the quote 'Hello sailor') based at Lossiemouth Scotland had whiskies painted on too. That one being Grouse of course. Finest strike bomber ever flown by the RN and RAF.
I recall HIGH SECURITY situation around the Famous Grouse vats and warehouses (and others up there.) It struck me funny. Here we have stuff labeled Exxon-Mobil, Phillips, Chevron, BP, and what-not and up there you'd see whisky labels on yuuge storage tanks. More than security at airports and the free-trade-zone bonded warehouses in Shannon, Rotterdam, etc and the time! (pre-911 though) Ha. I like priorities.

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