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Quote from: SredniVashtar on September 20, 2022, 04:33:36 AMI'm starting to worry about you, dear boy. You can't give these people an inch. The next thing you'll be telling me that that 'all men are created by equal' garbage was true as well. It sounds like you need to head back to Blighty instanter before the rot really warps you for good and all. I will choose to believe that this is all a 'deep cover' operation you are engaged in and you are really sowing mischief and discord behind the scenes prior to our long-planned invasion moving into full-swing.

Thanks for blowing my cover. My handlers at MI5, CIS, MFI, CBI, LTR and UPS will not be best pleased. But when I'm not engaging in 'deep cover' for HMG my cover employment is being gainfully employed in a technical capacity which brings me into contact with natives from all walks of life and on the whole they're okay..some are funny folk, but I'll come to that. After almost six years here I've met the lot!

Memsaab of course is above reproach but even she says the locals can be dubious. I get asked at least once a week if I'm from London. (It doesn't get trite after the first hundred times); My reply is usually; "Oi, do I look like that sloe gin swilling southerner, SV? Well, do I?" At that point their eyes dart left and right and they're trying to work out if a) they do know you, b) if there's been a police bulletin when you might have been mentioned c) Did you appear on 'The Voice' or somesuch 'talent' contest. When it's clear they haven't heard of you (I know, I know) I explain I'm from the only county worth mentioning in England, that no, it isn't near London, no it isn't near Edinburgh either, or Paris, or Dublin.
 I was asked if I was Irish once, and when I said no, I'm English, she asked if I was sure...Generally if you're a Brit you get treated with more respect and it's assumed you're better educated. Seeing as the FED spend less than 1% of GDP on public education, it isn't difficult to believe. But there's no incentive to make it better because...well, draw your own conclusions. But having said that I'm working among some very capable people who really know their stuff.

The stereotype that most Americans don't really know much about anything outside the four corners of their garden (Or tarp if you're homeless) isn't without merit. And it's obvious when I meet those who have been out and about (Usually have a military background or quite wealthy). It took me a while to realise why that is. It isn't entirely a lack of curiosity or being insular and not caring, it's mainly financial. Unlike the UK, vacation days are not mandatory, and many (Not all) jobs require a full year's employment before qualifying for any leave. Sick days are not paid everywhere. And if you do get leave, it's fewer days than the 28 enjoyed in the UK. Which explains why most Americans who holiday in the UK are retired.
In California they have an 'easy in/easy out' deal with jobs, you can be fired on the spot without redress, but likewise you can leave without notice too.
The 'funny folk' tend to have a weird sense of reality and if you dare to dig down, are trumpers. I haven't met many, because it's northern CA, and the one's I have met are frequently from out of state. A few weeks ago I was at a customers place and one guy had his phone playing Alex Jones..and he was relaying to his colleague what the good lord Jones was selling, I mean conveying his wisdom. He blamed the wildfires in the state on Communists, yes really. Although most are not arson and those that are, the political leanings of the crim isn't usually made known. I didn't venture the question as to how he knew and why they would because his eyes bulged and I wasn't sure of his emotional containment. I quietly muttered 'Ooookaaayyyyy' and backed out of the room.

But fear not old man and when my boys get my private jet back into civilian configuration after it was pressed into service dropping food parcels to the peasants in Pacific Heights me and the fragrant Laura will take a visit to the home counties. I think we're still allowed to drop into Brize Norton, even though the copybook was blotted somewhat with that little jape 'Badger' Harris-White had on his thirtieth birthday bash back in 1993. Enough said.

MD should

Quote from: albrecht on September 17, 2022, 01:51:24 PMThe weird thing is how politics and views change. For example the most reverent supporters of Jews and Israel are so-called 'evangelical' Christians. Likewise the so-called liberals don't support free speech and love 'hate speech' provisions and such. And hold abortion as almost some kind of sacrament and casus belli and, yet, claim the evil Christians against them are racists, as well as sexist. Yet abortion is used in many countries to kill female babies and most, if not all, Planned Parenthood and other abortion outfits are in minority and poor neighborhoods! So while they are fulfilling Sanger's ideals it is weird that the sacrament of abortion would be celebrated by people, and Parties, that, in theory, like non-white and poor people!

MD owes you a pint for answering for him..that way he doesn't have to address a single point I made. Having said that, you didn't either, not really. Rich/poor white/not white, ultimately the seed that the three purjered trump SOTUS judges subscribed to has taken root.
Take Alabama for instance, their governor, pious and god fearin sees no issue at all with banning abortions under ANY circumstances. Life of the mother, rape, incest victim, no matter.

It's the poorest state in the US, no drinking water for weeks, the federal money they had given to start dragging them up has instead been put to other uses, like a volleyball court that so happens to be at the college the daughter of Paul Favre attends, oh he got 6 million dollars.

Remember, it isn't what you know, it's who you know.

It just so happens to be a red state too.. you know, fiscal conservatives, anti corruption, anti hand outs...

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 17, 2022, 10:26:18 AMWould they? Another word for them is elitists. It may have been that way at one time pud, but you guys didn't let enough into your exclusive lifestyle and now you'll just have to face the angry mobs of ALL those people you consider beneath you.

The rest of your post assumes the great majority of the people in the world haven't been used and abused and treated unfairly and that the world is just hunky dory the way it is and that the only people complaining are the inferior, which is why you're the fascist. The British are big on blaming the victim, they really are.

Do you EVER listen to yourself? Honestly? How am I exclusive, elite? I gave you a potted history of my immediate family; Is there anything, anything at all in that that suggests I'm an elitist? What you seem to be suggesting is a more equitable society, where there isn't an us and them; correct? Well if you are, we're on common ground.

You gave yourself away somewhat with the angry mobs scenario; The last times the 'angry mob' attacked the 'elite' was the French revolution...and the Russian revolution...and a civil war in Spain.  You know the common thread in those? The elite were the rich and powerful, who were subjugating the masses. The masses rose up and said no. And in all three they were happy to be called Communists; Orwell is frequently hailed by those on the right and left as being a visionary with 1984; He went to Spain in the 30's to fight against Franco on behalf of the Communists.

I don't even pretend to think the world is hunky dory, but while you have the very wealthy and powerful moving the pieces, and being rewarded by the rich and powerful and bought, the average will remain so. Take for instance the previous and the current POTUS's policies.

The previous POTUS signed off a tax cut for all. The only thing, it wasn't for all, unless you pretend that the top .5% of the population receiving 85% of the actual tax cut is fair, equitable and not elitist? The current POTUS wanted and ran on a more even distribution of wealth, the Senate being a 50/50 split and needing a 60% majority voted against it. The GOP has repeatedly voted down putting through policies that will help the poor, the disadvantaged and even military vets.
 

Quotepeople in the world haven't been used and abused and treated unfairly and that the world

As you say...The GOP's attitude seems both unfair and abusive to me, how about you?

Quotebut you guys didn't let enough into your exclusive lifestyle

What is this exclusive lifestyle of which you speak? I don't have gold toilets, I don't own golf clubs (admittedly heavily leveraged), I wouldn't know where to begin defrauding the IRS, or banks to favour my tax burden or credit worthiness respectively. I don't have private jets, I can't and wouldn't bribe a university to give a place to my not so bright offspring.

No...MY exclusivity and elitism was asking my mother aged four who the man in the kitchen was. He was my dad. But because he worked like a dog, getting up before me, and getting home after I went to bed, seven days a week, I seldom saw him and couldn't connect. MY exclusivity was going to a comprehensive school (Public high school) and walking there and back, we couldn't afford a car. MY exclusivity was watching my parents go without so their three kids could have stuff. We seldom had family holidays, that's how fucking élite my life was.

I'll leave the best till last;

QuoteThe British are big on blaming the victim, they really are.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The 'victim' has often been an invaded country, you may have heard of Poland, Belgium, Holland, France, Norway, Denmark, Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Greece, Burma, Thailand, Singapore, Falklands.. Thing is, they weren't invaded by Britain. I'll let you work out the rest...

But who DOES blame the victim? Currently it's the Christo fascists, that upstanding sub set of humanity who preach the gospel according to white, privileged bigots. The kind of Christians who while simultaneously decrying bigots and zealots of other none Christian religions, practice in word and deed precisely the same indoctrination.

They love feotuses. They really do, even if the mother is herself a child, or a rape victim..But, let's hope the mother isn't poor, or single because if she is, well, she and the baby are on their own, because the world doesn't owe her anything, right? So all that cant about caring for the new born only extends to actual birth, not it's post natel months, it's development, it's education, it's general welfare in life until adulthood. It's the mother's fault anyway, if she didn't wear short skirts or had run faster, she wouldn't have been in such a predicament. Want more?

Some of these fascists want contraception eradicated. I'm sure I don't need to explain the implications of what that means.

There's much more in the list but those are the main highlights. You need to look up fascist and elite and ask yourself what examples you know of that you align with.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 17, 2022, 06:55:00 AMSee, I think the real reason you two NEVER put your money where your mouth is is because you don't really believe it and aren't liberal at all. You're both just a couple of establishmentarian goons. Be sure and curtsy for the King.

The issue you have is your inability to define what it is you mean by liberal.. I never have, never thought there's a need to. I'm sure SV feels the same. In the US, it's frequently used in a pejorative way, but when you ask what they actually mean, they don't know, and find they tend to agree with many things. It's interesting that the more educated, more open minded, better read, more travelled, less inherently angry and bitter would say they're liberal minded.

Now fascism is easily defined and easy to spot in people. The 'marks' lured into it tend to be insecure, not well educated, often angry at how the world treated them, and look for validation..

Up pops someone with a close cliqué who preaches their gospel of 'it's not your fault you're poor/uneducated/unemployed,it's 'their' fault'. 'Their' can be another religeon they don't like, a race, a culture and there's always always a willing crowd who identify as the mark. They're forgiving of anything the leader does, says or thinks, because he (usually but not always a he) has their back and can do no wrong.

Those close know he's a grifter, and they jump on the same train, because there's money to be made. The marks don't care because he's leading them to the promised land, he hasn't fully explained what that is and still won't invite them to his ivory tower but if he says he's the one, that's good enough for them..

He drops hints to pick out the enemy, and damage them, physically or reputationally, usually HIS percieved enemy, and that can include those who were once followers and 'friends'. He has no friends, he doesn't concieve of mutual love and status, he is the number one, everyone else is less. But because he's got his marks all lined up, they don't care he doesn't care about them, right up until they themselves are the enemy, the 'other'.

That is fascism.

Quote from: pate on September 16, 2022, 11:28:30 AMThread, has this been properly 'splained/debunked:



Seems legit, Nautical Shore?

I think also the bloke leading is the RSM, or Regimental Sergeant Major. He is referred to as Sir, God, Your supreme excellency, Divine Lord  even by high ranking officers. His power is absolute as he carries a pace stick that shoots lasers that can melt slate.
 

-p

Sigh...Heathens.

The soldiers are the Welsh Guards. The goat is their regimental mascot, not the monarch's.

No debunking neccessary.

Quote from: albrecht on September 15, 2022, 09:04:46 PMCouple glasses of white, for a Yorkshireman shouldn't make that kind of mistake. Even one who fled to sunnier pastures. 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/judge-wont-force-disclosure-of-records-on-alleged-episode-with-hunter-bidens-gun/ar-AA11N0aI

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-beats-obama-s-record-for-putting-public-defenders-on-federal-bench/ar-AA11R1O7 I'm not against this, generally, but the ones he, and Soetoro, put up tend toward the 'defend the criminals on racial or some kind of warped social-justice, communistic grounds' not on real civil rights grounds.

Raise those prices! Help the Saudis! (Odd that Trump and Xiden- and your Royals love to 'court'

Who is defending that? Trump is a proper real lifelong crook. He's got away with his shit because his MO is to delay...where down the opposing side (contractors, attornies,businesses) and wear them down so they either can't afford or haven't the will to carry on. This pos stole from kids with cancer to line his pockets. He's excrement.

Quote from: albrecht on September 15, 2022, 08:52:20 PMWhat is the Rh factor and your travel and 'relationships' history. And any drug/alcohol history. Some Royals or some aged Oriental leaders want to know. The high-tech Bros going synthetic but old school dynasties like the old school methods. Though younger blood is, usually, better some things could be arranged. 

Nothing as elaborate: back in the 90's there was an outbreak of BSE..or Bovin Spongeform Encephalopathy..Mad Cow Desease.

About ten people in the UK presented with it.. but cos the Yanks are risk averse (right!)..a ban was made on anyone from the UK giving blood. It was retaliation for in the 80's some factor 8 shipped in from the US was contaminated with HIV..because then controls on blood (and it's a paid donation, unlike UK) quality wasn't as it is now.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 14, 2022, 10:10:12 AMRude

On the Monty Python LP 'Matching tie and handkerchief' there's a sketch "World War one noises"

I think it's Graham Chapman (officer) and Mike Palin (squaddie) discussing the war, end of the war...and Palin shows the officer a photo of his g/f back in Blighty.." Oh, she's a very pretty girl" "Thank you Sir"  The officer digs out similar: "Bit ugly Sir" "Sorry?" "As in unattractive to men Sir"  "Oh think it's the light, makes her nose look big"  "No, it's not the nose, she's ugly Sir"

Charles has HAD that conversation.

Quote from: albrecht on September 15, 2022, 08:42:43 PMIt is the parties before the court or judge that needs to have 'standing,' not the judge or the lawyers but the plaintiff or parties bringing suit. Usually this means that the party needs to show that they have been harmed, or will be soon harmed. Or, as some cases, tangentially harmed in the future. Or, weakly, an interest in the case. (Some States have allowed also 'standing' to apply to non-entities, like environment, by another party who is a person/group, I think California did that.) But standing has nothing do with the the judge except that, in most cases, the judge determines if a ligitant has 'standing' (right to bring a suit) to the Court.

I meant status..A couple of glasses of white..

The upshot she's said she doesn't believe that there's any need to worry if he had/kept/sold/gave away anything that was top secret. The DoJ and intelligence services are in an impossible position. If agents are killed because drump compromised them, he should be tried for treason; sadly the actual statute for treason in the US only applies during war. And she should be impeached as a judge because she may as well be on his payroll.

Quote from: Jackstar on September 14, 2022, 01:55:10 PMThey busted their asses to keep me alive and that's definitely in your interest, so... they certainly have acted in your interest; and as well they've allowed me to answer this question instead of letting one of their trained nutless monkeys do it; it's just not the usual immediately obvious sycophantic mewling packet of wild g*y quo-tries.

I'm type O. But the bastards still won't let me give blood. Get on it!!

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 15, 2022, 03:18:32 AMCriminalizing the opposition and rounding them up so that it's effectively a one party unistate? Nah! That's not fascism. 🙄

Putin can throw more clarity on that: he has the opposition murdered or imprisoned AFTER trying to kill them

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 15, 2022, 07:44:18 PMBoy, the walls are really closing in. Should be any day now.

The judge drump chose to preside over his case seems to be falling into line; her total lack of experience, that drump appointed her, and surprise surprise she's got a priddy face too.

EVERY lawyer of standing and years of actual lawing both for and anti drump has pointed out her woeful lack of objectivity.

She's basically said that there's two statutes of any law; Not drump and being drump. If drump then as far as she's concerned, you're above reproach: she even asked if his loss of reputation was taken into consideration? Really? Did ANY mob boss ever pull the judge to one side and say "Hey judge, if I'm investigated and/or charged, my reputation is shot, not fair"..

That pretend doctor is fascism. Call it what it is.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 15, 2022, 10:34:18 AM☝️ Disgusting.  Typical English degeneracy and perversion.  That is your queen you are talking about 

You ought to hear how he describes the females in his apartment block!

His court cases are I think scheduled for November..ALL of November.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on September 15, 2022, 09:57:43 AMAs I recall, your description of 'slightly soiled' wasn't entirely accurate. It was so stuck to the box that clumps of hair came out as I was trying to prise her loose.

So YOU were the one with the handle "Posh southern man wank"?

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 15, 2022, 05:12:13 AMPud do you have this doll?

I had the lifesize version, but sold it on e bay. Eventually..

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 14, 2022, 09:19:18 PMYou're actually celebrating fascism. You're just too stupid to realize it.

It's funny; when drump and Mike Flynn who was  fired for (no giggling) lying to Mike Pence, and the compliant Fux Nuts called for Clinton to be locked up without so much as a formal arrest or court case, I didn't read your reservations about fascism...

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 14, 2022, 09:19:18 PMYou're actually celebrating fascism. You're just too stupid to realize it.

Naaa..if crims are going to do the crimes, then they should be held to account, agreed? After all, the million or so in prison in the US didn't get far with "I'm a victim if the fascist state" as a defence. No, not even guys arrested for not being rich and connected...see Matt Gaetz.

Imagine being drump tonight..update former Chief of staff, Mark Meadows has been subpoened and is complying with the DoJ.

If he's any sense he'll realise it never ends well lying for drump (Micheal Cohen) and expecting the orange one to also admit blame..

Presumably he and his spouse and family have reached an agreement that he'll tell the truth.

That's separate to the goings on with the stolen docs. Drump's ex lawyer Ms Bobbs has lawyered up because it seems drump lied to her about what he did and didn't have in his possession..Naturally (being dim) she believed him! And signed off as such to the FBI..Oh dear.

Still, I'm sure this misunderstanding will all be cleared up over a nice mug of tea. If she's lucky she won't lose her license to practice law, and hopefully not be charged with such messy crimes like fraud or obstruction of justice.

Still, they had plenty of warning who they were dealing with.

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 14, 2022, 08:44:31 PMSo if Charles would have had the hots for Koo Stark instead of Andrew, Koo would be now Queen Consort?



That timeline would be more interesting.

I know they're odd, but I'm not sure Charles had the hots for his brother...

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on September 14, 2022, 08:30:35 PMhttps://twitter.com/disclo setv/status/1570194219368693760

I wonder how long he'd been stood there? 

Quote from: BobGrau on September 14, 2022, 04:47:34 PMThe main 'problem' is that Camilla is catholic, while the whole British monarchy has been running their own scam since Henry VIII.

Don't blame me, I think imaginary friends should all just try to get along.

It's a not exact comparison with Brenda's sister Marge. She was infatuated with Townsend, inconveniently he was already married. But a divorce rended him unsuitable anyway.

Her marriage to Snowden didn't go the distance. Though she did produce offspring.

Marge then spent the rest of her years being the girl who would show the fucking establishment just how embarrassing she could really be.

Charles wanted Camilla, badly. But being a pape and eventually marrying another bloke, that sort of chucked a spanner (wrench) in the works.

Diana pops up, arguably more royal than he was.. beautiful, demure, alleged virgin, and the kicker, she was an instant hit with the public though hounded by the press.

But Chuck (because he's an inbred dork) didn't leave it alone with Camilla. Naturally Di was seriously pissed. And eventually retaliated..the rest is history.

After 17 years, it's been accepted that Camilla is a fixture, but...but she's still not Diana. Never could be, ever. And if anything will harm her Queen Consort position, it will be the history. Diana was beloved, deeply. Camilla isn't, and won't be.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 14, 2022, 07:04:10 PM

Oh dear...how sad...never mind. 

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:41:39 PM

Tucker 'Fox news isn't a news program and shouldn't be taken seriously' Carlson?

That one? 

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:20:21 PMSo, in other words, nothing happened?

Oh it happened. Berman was forced out of his job. Because he refused to do drump's bidding...in other words he was standing up to a fascist.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:19:27 PMYes, I'm an extremely bad doctor because I support Trump. 🙄

As you just said...

Your judgement is debatable at best...

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:14:29 PMNo, a real medical doctor, pud.

Then I pity your patients.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:08:19 PMWhy don't you highlight these Trump arrests for us then? They didn't seem to make the news.

P.S. I like that you call me Barbie. Given that I'm a doctor and that the original doctors were barbers it's both respectful and historically educational. Thanks. 

Well for instance drump wanted John Kerry arrested. Bill Barr told the SDNY AG (Berman) to make it so..

Berman was then asked to resign..he refused. Barr released a statement to say he'd resigned...Berman heard it on the news and released his own to say no, he hadn't.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:08:19 PMWhy don't you highlight these Trump arrests for us then? They didn't seem to make the news.

P.S. I like that you call me Barbie. Given that I'm a doctor and that the original doctors were barbers it's both respectful and historically educational. Thanks. 

A doctor in what? PhD from drump uni?

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 09:01:36 PMFraud?! He sells pillows.

Not now he doesn't! His last store has closed in Minnisota.. oops.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 13, 2022, 08:54:53 PMIt must be fun for fascists like you to watch to government bully and intimidate your enemies, right?

You haven't heard about the highlights in Geoff Bermans new tome then?

Oh boy...Drump drops a tweet...two days later Bill Barr instructs the DoJ to 'act' on said tweet..including but not restricted to prosecuting anyone drumpikins saw as an enemy...not because they committed a crime...just didn't like what they said about him. Basically used the DoJ as his own personal law firm.

Now barbie...sit down and keep quiet. There's a lamb.