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Swishypants

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 04, 2017, 10:57:34 AM
Where are all the Trump haters and conspiracy theorists who told us that Trump's TLAM strike against Syria was based on bogus claims of Syrian use of chemical weapons?  Why is it when the facts come out on their wild-ass claims these folks have nothing to say. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-chemicalweapons/chemical-weapons-watchdog-found-sarin-used-in-march-syria-attack-sources-idUSKBN1C91XJ

You got traded to ANTIFA fuck-stick. You don't get to be on the Trump Train anymore; adjust your arguments accordingly.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 04, 2017, 10:57:34 AM
Where are all the Trump haters and conspiracy theorists who told us that Trump's TLAM strike against Syria was based on bogus claims of Syrian use of chemical weapons?  Why is it when the facts come out on their wild-ass claims these folks have nothing to say. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-chemicalweapons/chemical-weapons-watchdog-found-sarin-used-in-march-syria-attack-sources-idUSKBN1C91XJ

I think the consensus of opinion is that Syria (and Russia) have chemical weapons used on their own population. The evidence was for all to see (well, those who didn't dismiss the TV reports as fake). Trump ordered an attack (Or rather the GJs did) on an airbase but since then there's been little news about how the chemical weapons (That Assad and Putin deny having) have been found and disposed of.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Swishypants on October 04, 2017, 12:26:44 AM
Doesn't that make you mad? Nope! I'm not Rhodesian SAS. I just hung with them for 10 years. I never said anything other than that. Now you look as stupid as you are, and you can sit and ponder what Black Operations are and how they are OFF BOOKS!


You must be pretty old, it hasn't been Rhodesia since 1979.

starrmtn001

LIVE President Donald Trump URGENT Speech to Civilian Heroes and First Responders in Las Vegas.

https://youtu.be/OaPVNYEbgJs


TigerLily


What do you think Trump would consider worse; an alien probe or a Russian probe? Asking for a Russian alien friend

Kidnostad3

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 02:04:30 PM
What do you think Trump would consider worse; an alien probe or a Russian probe? Asking for a Russian alien friend

Obama was fond of anal probes. 

albrecht

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 04, 2017, 02:20:17 PM
Obama was fond of anal probes.
and aliens, especially of the illegal variety.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 02:04:30 PM
What do you think Trump would consider worse; an alien probe or a Russian probe? Asking for a Russian alien friend

If the alien is one of those sexy ones from Star Trek, definitely alien

paladin1991

Quote from: Swishypants on October 04, 2017, 12:26:44 AM
Doesn't that make you mad? Nope! I'm not Rhodesian SAS. I just hung with them for 10 years. I never said anything other than that. Now you look as stupid as you are, and you can sit and ponder what Black Operations are and how they are OFF BOOKS!

Oh.  You were the Platoon fluffer.  I heard it was like that over there.  Faithful Negro auxiliary was the title, wasn't it? 

Black ops?   Off the books?  Oh, shit, you're fucking Jack Ryan aren't you?  Or is it Jack Reacharound?

TigerLily

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 04, 2017, 02:20:17 PM
Obama was fond of anal probes.

Still waiting for the illegal wiretap evidence, racist

albrecht

Some of the people, usual suspects, behind the anti-Trump, pro-illegals, and general anti-US campaign. In this case the financial information from the group "Center for Community Change Action" are detailed. The usual suspects.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/donors-anti-trump-resistance-group-revealed/

We need another Congressional inquiry into these tax-dodging Foundations and their influence on the country, politics, and culture.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/3768227/Dodd-Report-to-the-Reece-Committee-on-Foundations-1954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_to_Investigate_Tax-Exempt_Foundations_and_Comparable_Organizations

TigerLily

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 04, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
If the alien is one of those sexy ones from Star Trek, definitely alien

I was thinking this guy to do the honors. Russian/alien hybrid


TigerLily

Quote from: albrecht on October 04, 2017, 03:17:31 PM
Some of the people, usual suspects, behind the anti-Trump, pro-illegals, and general anti-US campaign. In this case the financial information from the group "Center for Community Change Action" are detailed. The usual suspects.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/donors-anti-trump-resistance-group-revealed/

We need another Congressional inquiry into these tax-dodging Foundations and their influence on the country, politics, and culture.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/3768227/Dodd-Report-to-the-Reece-Committee-on-Foundations-1954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_to_Investigate_Tax-Exempt_Foundations_and_Comparable_Organizations

What is more anti-US than not caring about the Russian invasion? Of course, you've made it clear you're pro-Slavic

Quote from: paladin1991 on October 04, 2017, 03:09:47 PM
Oh.  You were the Platoon fluffer.  I heard it was like that over there.  Faithful Negro auxiliary was the title, wasn't it? 

Black ops?   Off the books?  Oh, shit, you're fucking Jack Ryan aren't you?  Or is it Jack Reacharound?

More like Jackov Smirnoff.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
Still waiting for the illegal wiretap evidence, racist

And you're a Nazi for calling him a racist.  :D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
Still waiting for the illegal wiretap evidence, racist

My dislike of Obama has nothing to do with his race nor is it because he's a homosexual.  It's because he is a lying traitorous con artist who misused his office to spy on and suppress his political opponents, circumvent congress and subvert the constitution to name just a few of his crimes.  There are persons of Obama's low character in every race but they comprise the majority of the Democrat party.  Stop hiding behind you race. 

TigerLily

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 04, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
My dislike of Obama has nothing to do with his race nor is it because he's a homosexual.  It's because he is a lying traitorous con artist who misused his office to spy on and suppress his political opponents, circumvent congress and subvert the constitution to name just a few of his crimes.  There are persons of Obama's low character in every race but they comprise the majority of the Democrat party.  Stop hiding behind you race.

Still waiting

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
Still waiting

His illegal ''agreement''  with Iran was the single most damaging action a US President has done to date.

Illegal because he bypassed the Senate and their Constitutional role to radify, reject, or simply let it die by not voting on it; illegal because he presented it to the UN as a done deal, giving nations and corporations political cover to begin trade with Iran, including weapons and weapons systems;  illegal because he overruled US law by voiding sanctions;  illegal because he overruled US law by allowing them access to western financial institutions and markets;  gave them several planeloads of cash to tide them over until they had full access to financial markets.

Damaging to the point of treason, as these actions removed the stifling economic sanctions stifling their economy, freeing up the ability to continue their nuclear weapons and ballistic weapons programs, and providing funds for increased mischief in the Middle East - their military is now active in Irag, Syria, Yemen, and they are resupplying Hamas and Hezbullah.

It's time to apprehend the traitorous former President Obama, Secretary of State Kerry, and their staffs, and seek justice.

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 03:21:29 PM
What is more anti-US than not caring about the Russian invasion? Of course, you've made it clear you're pro-Slavic

Now we have a non-existent Russian invasion to go along with the non-existent Trump campaign ''collusion''?

Idiot

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
Still waiting

I don't know why you're waiting, or what you're waiting on.  This has been explained several times.  But here goes.

In order to get a warrant for a wiretap on a US citizen, government officials (police) must show probable cause and convince a judge that other means of getting the information have been exhausted. 

Under the FISO law (Foreign Intlelligence Surveillance Act), the standards are much lower to get approval for a wiretap warrant to obtain intel between foreign powers and their agents suspected of espionage or terrorism.  Those warrants are granted by special FISO Court judges.  When reviewing the results of the wiretap and passing them to the appropriate agency, if any incidental conversation by a US citizen is picked up, the identity of that person is supposed to be ''masked'' - as there is a higher standard for wiretapping US citizens.  If there is probable cause of criminal conduct, the person may then be ''unmasked''. 

Berock Obama claims to be a professor of Constitutional Law.  For a Leftist, that means he's studied ways to get around and undermine it.  He certainly took to it, because he was quite good at it, including abuse of the FISO Court (below).

The Obama Administration applied for and was granted FISO warrants on the Russians.  They picked up a certain amount of communication by the Trump campaign, and possibly Trump himself.  It is normally rare for a US citizen to be ''unmasked'' in a FISO wiretap, yet the Trump campaign was ''unmasked'' in dozens of tapped calls.  In January 2017, just before leaving office, Obama issued an Executive Order allowing the sharing of more intelligence among the 17 various intelligence agencies, including information picked up from unmasked US citizens under FISO warrants.  Information regarding the Trump unmasking was leaked to the media and to some administration friendly members of Congress.


None of the above is in dispute.  The following are conclusions that can be drawn from the above, to a greater or lesser degree of certainty:

Obama and the Obama Administration were intentionally spying on Trump and the Trump campaign (none of the following would have happened without his direct approval).  Which is a felony. 

Due to the lower standard of evidence required, they got FISO warrants instead of the regular warrants.  To do so they lied to the FISO judges about the intent of the warrants.  Which are felonies.

They unmasked the Trump campaign folks without the probable cause required.  Which are felonies.

They spread the information from the wiretaps to all intelligence agencies, intentionally greatly increasing the odds someone would leak it.  Spreading of the intel was ''legal'' under Obama's unethical Executive Order, the leaking of it were felonies.


Now that you've had it laid out for you again, please let us know how FISO intel gathered on Trump was obtained legally by media and by members of Congress if you have a different scenario for it to have been done so. 

And by the way, all we've been told is ''Trump colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election''.  No evidence.  No details.  Yet we're supposed to believe a bunch of traitors, felons, and partisan election losers.  Which is more than a little suspicious and doesn't pass the smell test.  Do I have that all about right?





Kidnostad3

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on October 04, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
I don't know why you're waiting, or what you're waiting on.  This has been explained several times.  But here goes.

In order to get a warrant for a wiretap on a US citizen, government officials (police) must show probable cause and convince a judge that other means of getting the information have been exhausted. 

The standards are much less to get a wiretap warrant to obtain foreign intelligence information between foreign powers and agents of foreign powers suspected of espionage or terrorism.  Those warrants are granted by special FISO Courts, under the Foreign Intlelligence Surveillance Act.  When reviewing the results of the wiretap and passing them on, if any conversation by a US citizen is picked up, the identity of that person is supposed to be ''masked'', as there is a higher standard for wiretapping US citizens.  If there is probable cause of criminal conduct, the person may then be ''unmasked''. 

Berock Obama claims to be a professor of Constitutional Law.  For a Leftist, that means he's studied ways to get around and undermine it.  He certainly took to it, because he was quite good at it, including abuse of the FISO Court (below).

The Obama Administration applied for and was granted FISO warrants on the Russians.  They picked up a certain amount of communication by the Trump campaign, and possibly Trump himself.  It is normally rare for a US citizen to be ''numasked'' in a FISO wiretap, yet the Trump campaign was ''unmasked'' in dozens of tapped calls.  In January 2017, just before leaving office, Obama issued an executive order allowing the sharing of more intelligence among the 17 various intelligence agencies.  the information was leaked to the media and some in Congress.


None of the above is in dispute.  The following are conclusions that can be drawn from the above, to a greater or lesser degree of certainty:

Obama and the Obama Administration were intentionally spying on Trump and the Trump campaign (none of the following would have happened without his approval).  Which is a felony. 

Due to the lower standard of evidence required, they got FISO warrants instead of the regular warrants - and lied to the FISO judges about the intent of hte warrants in order to do so.  Which are felonies.

They unmasked the Trump campaign folks without the probable cause required.  Which are felonies.

They spread the information from the wiretaps to all intelligence agencies, greatly increasing the odds someone would leak it.  Spreading of the intel was ''legal'' under Obama's unethical Executive Order, the leaking of it were felonies.


Now that you've had it laid out for you again, please let us know how FISO intel gathered on Trump was obtained legally if you have a different scenario for it to have been done so. 

And by the way, all we've been told is ''Trump colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election''.  No evidence.  No details.  Yet we're supposed to believe a bunch of traitors, felons, and partisan election losers.  Do I have that all about right?

Yeah all that's true but he's black so he can do no wrong in her eyes.  Talk about a racist.


Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 04, 2017, 07:29:54 PM
Yeah all that's true but he's black so he can do no wrong in her eyes.  Talk about a racist.

Yeah - not a one of them can get past his skin color, yet it's the rest of us who are racists.


=Schlyder=

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on October 04, 2017, 07:35:06 PM
Yeah - not a one of them can get past his skin color, yet it's the rest of us who are racists.

^ this.   He is a traitor, and should be tried and executed, along with most of his administration, and the Democrat leaders, and all RINO traitors too.

GravitySucks

Quote from: =Schlyder= on October 04, 2017, 07:45:03 PM
^ this.   He is a traitor, and should be tried and executed, along with most of his administration, and the Democrat leaders, and all RINO traitors too.

And his little dog too!!!

Lord Grantham

White House walks back Trump's Puerto Rico comments as Wall Street reels
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/04/trump-puerto-rico-debt-white-house-response-243452

On Wednesday, the Trump administration indicated it has no current plans to take the unprecedented, politically dangerous and probably illegal step of wiping out the owners of Puerto Rico's bonds


Trump's Puerto Rico drop-in was a monumental insult
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/353872-trumps-puerto-rico-drop-in-was-a-monumental-insult
Trump then visited a church and started throwing out rolls of paper towels like he was the star of a cheap halftime show shooting T-shirts at adoring fans. He also gave out flashlights but then yelled out, “But you all don’t need flashlights anymore do you!” in a clear attempt to highlight the “great work” he has done to bring the island back from disaster.

People DO need flashlights, however: Just 8.6 percent of the population has electricity. In addition, just 48 percent have access to drinking water. Trump was then taken to survey the affected areas and speak to disaster survivors about their needs â€" except he didn’t.


this part is especially interesting
Trump and the Republicans had better ensure that the Puerto Rico recovery happens quickly and normalcy returns to the island. If that doesn't occur, there will be a massive exodus of hundreds of thousands of American citizens who are immediately eligible to register and vote when they settle into states like Texas and Florida.

They come from an island where the voting participation rate is almost 100 percent. I don't think that will bode well for Trump or Republicans in 2018 or 2020.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lord Grantham on October 04, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
White House walks back Trump's Puerto Rico comments as Wall Street reels
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/04/trump-puerto-rico-debt-white-house-response-243452

On Wednesday, the Trump administration indicated it has no current plans to take the unprecedented, politically dangerous and probably illegal step of wiping out the owners of Puerto Rico's bonds


Trump's Puerto Rico drop-in was a monumental insult
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/353872-trumps-puerto-rico-drop-in-was-a-monumental-insult
Trump then visited a church and started throwing out rolls of paper towels like he was the star of a cheap halftime show shooting T-shirts at adoring fans. He also gave out flashlights but then yelled out, “But you all don’t need flashlights anymore do you!” in a clear attempt to highlight the “great work” he has done to bring the island back from disaster.

People DO need flashlights, however: Just 8.6 percent of the population has electricity. In addition, just 48 percent have access to drinking water. Trump was then taken to survey the affected areas and speak to disaster survivors about their needs â€" except he didn’t.


And what are the things you like about him?  :D

GravitySucks

Quote from: Lord Grantham on October 04, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
White House walks back Trump's Puerto Rico comments as Wall Street reels
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/04/trump-puerto-rico-debt-white-house-response-243452

On Wednesday, the Trump administration indicated it has no current plans to take the unprecedented, politically dangerous and probably illegal step of wiping out the owners of Puerto Rico's bonds


Trump's Puerto Rico drop-in was a monumental insult
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/353872-trumps-puerto-rico-drop-in-was-a-monumental-insult
Trump then visited a church and started throwing out rolls of paper towels like he was the star of a cheap halftime show shooting T-shirts at adoring fans. He also gave out flashlights but then yelled out, “But you all don’t need flashlights anymore do you!” in a clear attempt to highlight the “great work” he has done to bring the island back from disaster.

People DO need flashlights, however: Just 8.6 percent of the population has electricity. In addition, just 48 percent have access to drinking water. Trump was then taken to survey the affected areas and speak to disaster survivors about their needs â€" except he didn’t.


this part is especially interesting
Trump and the Republicans had better ensure that the Puerto Rico recovery happens quickly and normalcy returns to the island. If that doesn't occur, there will be a massive exodus of hundreds of thousands of American citizens who are immediately eligible to register and vote when they settle into states like Texas and Florida.

They come from an island where the voting participation rate is almost 100 percent. I don't think that will bode well for Trump or Republicans in 2018 or 2020.


All three major indices closed up for today. Wall Street is reeling. OK.


Geezus, what an ego - he even had the dog named after him.  Or was it just that he didn't want to be the only one in the family with the name or initials BO, lol

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