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Metron2267

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 22, 2018, 09:20:18 AM
Remember when these destructive dishonest ass wipes would get all huffy when they were called out (''are you questioning my patriotism''?).

At least the pretense is gone.

LOL!

PaulAtreides

The Kansas law championed by Kansas Secretary of State Kobach (a Trumper) and Trump requiring voters to prove citizenship before casting a ballot has been overturned by a federal judge (appointed by Bush). Studies have already debunked the Trump/Kobach claims and Kobach failed to provide any contrary evidence. Estimates suggest that voter fraud of all kinds occurs once in every 760,000 votes and votes by noncitizens are only a fraction of that fraction. Clearly, all of the voter ID proposals are nothing but attempts at voter suppression by conservatives scared s***less over non-whites voting. Kobach so botched the presentation of his case that the judge ordered him to complete six hours of remedial legal education. You can't make this up, folks.  Well, actually, all of you Trackers (TrumpCrackers) have done just that - made up shit. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:10:46 AM
The Kansas law championed by Kansas Secretary of State Kobach (a Trumper) and Trump requiring voters to prove citizenship before casting a ballot has been overturned by a federal judge (appointed by Bush). Studies have already debunked the Trump/Kobach claims and Kobach failed to provide any contrary evidence. Estimates suggest that voter fraud of all kinds occurs once in every 760,000 votes and votes by noncitizens are only a fraction of that fraction. Clearly, all of the voter ID proposals are nothing but attempts at voter suppression by conservatives scared s***less over non-whites voting. Kobach so botched the presentation of his case that the judge ordered him to complete six hours of remedial legal education. You can't make this up, folks.  Well, actually, all of you Trackers (TrumpCrackers) have done just that - made up shit.

You're just pissy because you still haven't achieved world wide communism yet and this is one of the main ways you plan on eliminating the last obstacle to that, us.

BTW, whenever you clowns mention the Bushes thinking their conservative you just further reveal to everyone what a truly brain dead idiot you are. :D

P.S. if the rest of the world wants communism then they should just get together and make a military play against us. ;)

Asuka Langley

Quote from: Spy on June 22, 2018, 08:56:39 AM
This is what traitors will be doing on Independence Day every year until the Trump regime is swept into the dustbin of history.


You only have 6 more years im sure you will make it until Baron is elected.

2 scoops
2 womp's
2 terms
deal with it!


Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:10:46 AM
The Kansas law championed by Kansas Secretary of State Kobach (a Trumper) and Trump requiring voters to prove citizenship before casting a ballot has been overturned by a federal judge (appointed by Bush).

Oh yeah...Bush...Clinton's "brother from another mother"...

QuoteStudies have already debunked the Trump/Kobach claims and Kobach failed to provide any contrary evidence.

Try again, leftard shill:

Based on the evidence, the judge ruled, Kansas' interests in preventing fraud, while legitimate, are "not strong enough to outweigh the tangible and quantifiable burden on eligible voter registration applicants in Kansas who were not registered to vote before January 1, 2013."


If the claims were "debunked" than the judge wouldn't have ruled his interest was "legitimate".

Lack of subject verb agreement and the entire thing swung on Motor Voter procedural verbiage.

Expect a SCOTUS review next.

QuoteEstimates suggest that voter fraud of all kinds occurs once in every 760,000 votes and votes by noncitizens are only a fraction of that fraction. Clearly, all of the voter ID proposals are nothing but attempts at voter suppression by conservatives scared s***less over non-whites voting.

Since when is requiring proof of citizenship a non-white issue?

Are you admitting that most non-citizen voters are non-whites?

Is it possible that this nation has been invaded by roughly 11-14 million "non-whites"?

Oh how could THAT ever happen one wonders...

::)

QuoteKobach so botched the presentation of his case that the judge ordered him to complete six hours of remedial legal education. You can't make this up, folks.  Well, actually, all of you Trackers (TrumpCrackers) have done just that - made up shit.

The old saw about proving a negative having high degree of difficulty applies.

If you can't adequately determine citizenship and it can legally be "affirmed/claimed" as a legal proof then it is impossible to really measure how many non-citizens are voting.

A classic Catch 22, you odious leftarded traitor to America. >:(

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 22, 2018, 10:16:08 AM
You're just pissy because you still haven't achieved world wide communism yet and this is one of the main ways you plan on eliminating the last obstacle to that, us.

BTW, whenever you clowns mention the Bushes thinking their conservative you just further reveal to everyone what a truly brain dead idiot you are. :D

P.S. if the rest of the world wants communism then they should just get together and make a military play against us. ;)

As usual, you failed to address any of the issues.  But let me recap.  There is NO evidence of illegal voting beyond the infinitesimal amount noted in the original post.  So, that means that you would to limit the voting rights of some American citizens.  And we know which color you would choose to restrict.  Conclusion:  You're a racist cracker.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:38:42 AM
As usual, you failed to address any of the issues.  But let me recap.  There is NO evidence of illegal voting beyond the infinitesimal amount noted in the original post.  So, that means that you would to limit the voting rights of some American citizens.  And we know which color you would choose to restrict.  Conclusion:  You're a racist cracker.

You keep telling yourself that. I know it's all you got.

P.S. I'd love for one of you cowards to say that to my face but I know you never would...because you're a coward. ;)

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 22, 2018, 10:28:45 AM
Oh yeah...Bush...Clinton's "brother from another mother"...

Try again, leftard shill:

Based on the evidence, the judge ruled, Kansas' interests in preventing fraud, while legitimate, are "not strong enough to outweigh the tangible and quantifiable burden on eligible voter registration applicants in Kansas who were not registered to vote before January 1, 2013."



You stupid ninny.  The interest is legitimate, but the methodology is not.  America 1; Crackers 0.

Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:45:02 AM
You stupid ninny.  The interest is legitimate, but the methodology is not.  America 1; Crackers 0.

If the interest IS "legitimate" then there is credible evidence of voter fraud. This much we know.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article213550254.html
WASHINGTON
Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft on Wednesday called voter fraud “an exponentially greater threat than hacking” to the U.S. election system.

But Ashcroft also testified during a hearing on Capitol Hill that his office detects 100,000 scans per day on its computer systems â€" possibly from hackers trying to break in.

“We cannot say which of those are targeted to elections,” Ashcroft told the panel of senators. “We have to treat them as if they’re all targeted to elections because if they find one way in, they’ll go from there to elections. So we treat them all as attacks.”

Ashcroft cited a 2010 Missouri House primary election that was determined by a single vote. Missouri Rep. John Joseph Rizzo’s relatives later admitted to illegally claiming a Kansas City address. Their two votes could have changed the results of the primary.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/05/03/left-ignores-voter-fraud-evidence-mounts-prove-wrong/
In many states, voter registration requires proof of citizenship. The left calls such policies anti-American. But is that really such a radical idea, that voters in a U.S. election would have to be U.S. citizens?

If liberals want evidence, then Heritage has it. To date, we have documented 773 confirmed criminal convictions in 492 voter fraud cases spanning 44 states.

Restating the catch 22 you ignored:

If a mere claim of citizenship is sufficient to establish legal proof of said citizenship then no means exists to flush fraudulent non-citizens from the voter rolls.

Cope.

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 22, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
If the interest IS "legitimate" then there is credible evidence of voter fraud. This much we know.


No, there is no credible evidence.  Kobach was admonished for failing to present any.  Ashcroft is just a Kobach wannabe considering higher office in MO.  My wish for you is that brown people start moving into your trailer park - with much nicer trucks and trailers than the ones you have. 


PaulAtreides

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 22, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
If the interest IS "legitimate" then there is credible evidence of voter fraud. This much we know.



Tell us, what law school did you attend that taught you to equate "legitimate interest" with "credible evidence?"  Was it a US school?  Or perhaps was sixth grade your "senior year?"

Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:59:58 AM
No, there is no credible evidence.

Sure there is, there simply wasn't enough at this time for the Judge to rule it a systemic problem yet.

QuoteKobach was admonished for failing to present any.

You'r eLYING again Paul - he did present some.

Stop the bullshit.

QuoteAshcroft is just a Kobach wannabe considering higher office in MO. 

Oh boo fucking hoo... :'(

QuoteMy wish for you is that brown people start moving into your trailer park - with much nicer trucks and trailers than the ones you have.

My wish for you is that you some day see past your own hideous racism. >:(

Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 11:05:36 AM
Tell us, what law school did you attend that taught you to equate "legitimate interest" with "credible evidence?"  Was it a US school?  Or perhaps was sixth grade your "senior year?"

You JD was achieved where?

And the evidence presented was credible and confirmed, it simply was not enough to prevail. :(

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621304260/judge-tosses-kansas-proof-of-citizenship-voter-law-and-rebukes-sec-of-state-koba

The judge said Kobach failed to show there had been a "substantial number" of people who managed to register to vote in Kansas without being U.S. citizens.

Heading into the trial, Kobach said that since 1999, his office had confirmed 127 cases of noncitizens who had either registered to vote or attempted to do so. Of that number, 43 had succeeded in registering and 11 had voted.


Gd5150

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:59:58 AM
No, there is no credible evidence

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 10:10:46 AM
Estimates suggest that voter fraud of all kinds occurs

Hi duneboy. Bye duneboy. See you in a few weeks.

Poor demokkktat lemming can’t even keep his lies straight.


Juan

Nobody ever complains about Florida’s voter ID law. But then it was Republicans who stole the Miami-Dade election back in the 90s, and Democrat Governor Lawton Chiles who got the legislature to pass the ID requirement.

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 22, 2018, 11:07:18 AM

And the evidence presented was credible and confirmed, it simply was not enough to prevail. :(


Gee, and that's the way our legal system works.  Even if one accepts Kobach's numbers, the remedy sought far outweighs the "damages" done by those few illegal votes.  It's called balancing.  Courts do it all the time. Again, this is nothing but race based voter suppression.  The last gasp of old, white, low information, underemployed men seeing the last remnant of white privilege slipping away.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Gee, and that's the way our legal system works.  Even if one accepts Kobach's numbers, the remedy sought far outweighs the "damages" done by those few illegal votes.  It's called balancing.  Courts do it all the time. Again, this is nothing but race based voter suppression.  The last gasp of old, white, low information, underemployed men seeing the last remnant of white privilege slipping away.

No.

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Gd5150 on June 22, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
Hi duneboy. Bye duneboy. See you in a few weeks.
Taking a trip, are you?  Or is this just part of your work/release program?

Kidnostad3

What continues to astound me is how any thinking person can place any cofidence at all in what the MSM reports and opines after so much of it has proven to be a gross misrepresentation or outright lies and all of it hideously biased.  No shit, no matter what your opinion of Trump is, at what point does one overcome his indoctrination and realize that he is being propandized and used by establishment politicians/bureaucrats and their outriders in the MSM, to all of whom Trump and those who elected him represent an existential threat.   Stop being influenced by the drama and histrionics of a group of so called elites concentrated in Democrat enclaves along the east and west coasts and in a majority of the major cities in the interior who are  totally out of touch with the average American and who care nothing about your welfare. 

I expect the rabid anti Trumper’s who post here really don’t give a rat’s ass about the truth and will only come back with a scathing criticism of Styxx’s Haircut and wardrobe choices instead of acknowledging the blatant corruption that is being revealed to them every day. 


https://youtu.be/NYKWTgyAiTE




Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 22, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Gee, and that's the way our legal system works.

No...that's how activist judges work.

Remember:

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621304260/judge-tosses-kansas-proof-of-citizenship-voter-law-and-rebukes-sec-of-state-koba

The ruling comes two months after the judge found Kobach in contempt of court for disobeying her order to allow some potentially ineligible voters to remain eligible to cast a ballot under a preliminary injunction.

Simple payback.

QuoteEven if one accepts Kobach's numbers, the remedy sought far outweighs the "damages" done by those few illegal votes.  It's called balancing.

Bullshit!

No person is "damaged" by proving citizenship - that's utter lunacy!

However we ALL are damaged when a mere claim of citizenship is enough to satisfy "voter voter" registration.


QuoteCourts do it all the time.

Yes, activist judges are many.

QuoteAgain, this is nothing but race based voter suppression.

No voter who has proof of citizenship can be suppressed.

Which "race" do you feel cannot prove citizenship?

QuoteThe last gasp of old, white, low information, underemployed men seeing the last remnant of white privilege slipping away.

Your disgusting racism is REJECTED, you worthless sack of shit!

DROP DEAD TRAITOR!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on June 22, 2018, 11:24:18 AM
What continues to astound me is how any thinking person can place any cofidence at all in what the MSM reports and opines after so much of it has proven to be a gross misrepresentation or outright lies and all of it to be glaringly biased.  No shit, no matter what your opinion of Trump is, at what point does one overcome his indoctrination and realize that he is being propandized and used by establishment politicians/bureaucrats and their outriders in the MSM, to all of whom Trump and those who elected him are an existential threat.  Stop being influenced by the drama and histrionics of a group of so called elites concentrated in Democrat enclaves along the east and west coasts and in a majority of the major cities in the interior who are  totally out of touch with the average American and who care nothing about your welfare. 

I expect that none of the anti Trumper’s who post here really care what the truth is and will come back with only a scathing criticism of Styxx’s Haircut and wardrobe choices instead of acknowledging the blatant dishonesty of the MSM.

Duneboy's too low IQ to get that.

Metron2267

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 22, 2018, 11:30:41 AM
Duneboy's too low IQ to get that.

He also (just as with pud and Lily) is a serial congenital LIAR! >:(

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 22, 2018, 11:38:30 AM
He also (just as with pud and Lily) is a serial congenital LIAR! >:(

Sure, they deny any reality but their own propaganda.

Metron2267

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 22, 2018, 11:41:14 AM
Sure, they deny any reality but their own propaganda.

I know this may sound naive, but frankly I can't begin to understand why they think that evading and denying the hard data presented is a workable world view or viable means of convincing others of their emotionally loaded biases.

Even though I can analyze the leftards, the corruption of their thinking process yet baffles me. :o




starramus

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 22, 2018, 10:16:08 AM
You're just pissy because you still haven't achieved world wide communism yet and this is one of the main ways you plan on eliminating the last obstacle to that, us.

BTW, whenever you clowns mention the Bushes thinking their conservative you just further reveal to everyone what a truly brain dead idiot you are. :D

P.S. if the rest of the world wants communism then they should just get together and make a military play against us. ;)

But what about your dedication to democracy? The world heavily out votes you on Donnie. Seems like nobody outside of his amerikkkan cult can stand the muthafucka.

Here's a little jolt for you. amerikkka is a failed empire waiting to happen.

Jackstar

Quote from: starramus on June 22, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
The world heavily out votes you on Donnie.

That's really just your opinion. No one who matters gives a shit about that.

starramus

Quote from: Kizuna Ai on June 22, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
You only have 6 more years im sure you will make it until Baron is elected.

2 scoops
2 womp's
2 terms
deal with it!



Donnie Tinyhands cannot even get along with his "stalwart friends", and allies. He is relegated to love hate relationships, and that will include the electorate. The shit storm he faces for a second term will inundate him the most "tremendous", and "incredible" pile of excrement "the world has ever seen"!

Jackstar

Quote from: starramus on June 22, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
amerikkka is a failed empire waiting to happen.

+1, Insightful (from 1912)



Quote from: starramus on June 22, 2018, 11:57:15 AM
Donnie Tinyhands cannot even get along with his "stalwart friends", and allies

Fuck them, and fuck you too. Go practice math or something.

starramus

Where oh where is Sloppy Steve?

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