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25531

Putting aside your portrayal of the US (are you sure you visited our state of Georgia, and not the country Georgia in eastern Europe?), what do you recommend?

The Libs rule our big cities nearly 100% - and have for decades.  This is what Liberalism and socialist dependency produces. The people who know better are locked out of any policy making positions in these crime ridden cities.  Same with our schools, especially in these districts - they've been seized from the teachers and parents and handed over to the 'Progressive' teachers union bosses and educrats in DC and the state capitals.

Then change it! Stop putting a political spin on everything (all sides) Kids with guns don't give a shit about politics, as far as they can see all politicians and billionaires do is screw the system, why shouldn't they? Just what would the limit be for murder in your view? Percentage per capita?

And yes I went to Georgia USA. Landed at Atlanta, bused to Athens, stayed around Commerce, and went (as well as other places) to Madison city. Pretty place, and untouched by Sherman cos his mistress asked him not to raze it...

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Random Topics / Re: Random stupid things on your mind. Post them.
« on: May 09, 2014, 01:31:50 PM »
Student Kept Mailing Poop To Vice Principal: Cops
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/08/student-mails-poop-to-pri_n_5287340.html
The kid was arrested. Schools seem to be relying way to heavily on the police and the legal system for discipline. Who is going to be helped by arresting this kid? No one. Having to go through the legal system for a (very funny) prank will probably teach him hate the police and all authority figures, and skew his outlook on life. I am not big into conspiracy theories, but my husband said maybe they are trying to get kids used to being in 'the system.' That, I might just believe.  :-\


Nothing as conspiratorial as that: When I was at school, you did as you were told, sure we larked about and played tricks, but we knew the line . If we got caught we took the punishment, and if it was serious we got caned. But we knew the line. If it got really serious parents got brought in and if it was bad, we got home and got a leathering then too, grounded for a week etc..

Now? Well now, parents and teachers have been told they can't discipline kids..and kids not being stupid know this, and will take any opportunity to call out that a teacher (particularly male) touched them inappropriately. Teachers know this, and so take a back seat and are reduced to 'asking' kids to behave instead as happened to us, being bent over the bench in Mr Crooks' woodwork class and belted with a length of 2X2 ash. Guess what? We didn't fuck with him and got on with what we were supposed to do.

The other end of the scale in the same school was a delightful and highly respected french teacher who wouldn't hurt a fly, but the kids did as they were told, unquestioning...no-one fucked with him either. As a matter of fact it was my old school where an incident with a 14 year old shit (after I'd left) that resulted in the banning of all corporal punishment in England and Wales. Long story but to do with the shit's parents wanting compensation, and not recognising their shit of a son was a shit.

Parents? Yeah,, they go in now to schools and beat/shoot or abuse the teacher who 'asked' their shit of a child to do as they're told...

Which leaves the options open to the school very limited..they can't administer discipline, the parents won't, so who do they go to? Hong Kong Fui? Nope...The police...

Here endeth the lesson.   

25533

I think this has been explained multiple times, but every gun death of someone under 18 is not from a school shooting.  In fact if the number is 100,000 'kid' per year it's not even 0.1%. 

It's a bunch of punks - wanna be 'gangstas' - doing each other in.  50% of the 100,000 is probably a low estimate.  A very low estimate.

Yes, and they came out of the womb with the ability and desire to kill each other? To even think it's acceptable that kids are killing each other and to treat it as nothing to get upset about is diabolical. How can it be anything else?

I know it's repeated but the US really need to prioritise what is deemed outrageous to them. You can't discuss sex in a frank way on TV, you can't have songs on the radio if the sponsor will be upset about it, you can't show nudity yet have the biggest porn industry in the world! Yet the murder of kids (by whoever it is) in any scenario doesn't make anyone stop and say "Hey, lets' see if we can get the root cause of this and do something about it"?
I'm not going to say it doesn't happen here, because it does, but not even close to the rate you have it. We have gangs, we have gangs that are kids all under 16, and streetwise, but we also have people cleaning it up as best they can. The difference is, the population don't think having lots of guns will solve the problem, because as demonstrated, it doesn't.

25534
Politics / Re: Sharia VS LGBT Rights
« on: May 09, 2014, 12:22:40 PM »
I would imagine that all of them do. And they must also recognize sharia or they've ceased being a Muslim.

Really? I have a family that live across from me. They're Muslim, and the don't practice Sharia law.

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It defines how they practice their faith. So explain this liberal thing where Islam is protected from criticism like it's a race rather than a group of ideas. I never could figure that one out.

Where do you get this 'liberal thing'? As I said previously I consider most of my views on life (if not political-but in some Americanshire it's the same) as being liberal. It doesn't go that everything that isn't considered 'liberal' is open for criticism or that everything that is liberal is given a free ride. I've not understood why Islam and Judaism is treated as a race either. Having said that, I don't understand why religion (and faith of same) is given some sort of elevation in how anyone is perceived as far as their moral and ethical code is concerned.. Why a religious tome to 'prove' your sincerity in court for instance? Why do US Presidents have god help them in fulfilling their duty? Why should god bless America? Why is god used as a marketing tool in elections and not only given credibility but might make the difference to whether they're elected?

Is the implication that great minds (Philosophers, scientists, medics etc) who mainly are not religious are deficient?

As for not criticising one religion above another. Most people quite honestly have a tough enough job getting on in life as it is without getting into battles and arguments about religion. There are no winners and it ends in wars.   

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Random Topics / Re: UFO lays waste to Taliban compound?
« on: May 09, 2014, 02:44:48 AM »
It's the Daily Mail, man... it's not so much a newspaper as it is something you might wipe your ass with as a last, last, last resort.

Big supporters of Fascism in the 30s, the Daily Mail.... didn't much care for the Jews. Huge fans of anti-semitism... hates gypsies, blacks, immigrants, hell... just anyone who isn't a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant. 

Send them to camps in the east, that's the Daily Mail's philosophy. 

A handy rule of thumb is that if you read it in the Daily Mail it's a lie, racist, anti-semitic, or homophobic.

Oh, and now they do a FANTASTIC line in anti-Islamic propaganda. 

I advise all non-Brits to be cognisant of what they're looking at when they find themselves linked to a Daily Mail article.  Just set your default as, "Well now, this is unadulterated bullshit from a 'newspaper' that supported/probably still supports the NAZIs."




Spot on; and to add their online version's much derided obsession with using photos of the pubescent daughters of famous people (especially glamourous women) with a caption that suggests sexual maturity, whilst at the same time running (in the hard copy version) headlines about how outraged they are about paedophiles. We could throw in their rank hypocrisy with other things too, but it's enough to go on with.

25536
Random Topics / Re: Whats Wrong With This Chick?
« on: May 09, 2014, 01:35:17 AM »
Seemed reasoned and expressed perfectly well to me.  Is there something confusing to you about intelligible English, Drone?

I thought I hadn't used too many big words, or dropped Latin in to make it more profound, but I guess it could be down to Area51 feeling uncomfortable about answering without coming across as chauvanistic. Who knows?

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http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/
" For example, well over 50% of all the children injured by guns are little shits who totally had it coming. But taking that fact out of context is not going to help anyone.

To follow through that logic how about having a lottery each day and a school/school bus/kindergarten is
chosen at random and the kids are massacered and then later tell the parents (in a televised game show) by  anecdotes etc which 50% were not little shits deserving to die?

What I find nausiating is no-one has condemned you as the grotesque disgusting and unfit to live among decent people murderous shit that you are.

Oh? You're not going to be the one to pull the trigger on the 50%? No, cavemen like you don't, especially those who would still think universal firearm ownership shoildn't be compromised if 100000 children per year were murdered.

And you think you're civilised? The USA is fucked if most think (and I use 'think' advisedly) like you.

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 04:42:03 PM »
I know that doesn't look like an airplane.

9/11 CNN No Plane at Pentagon Original Footage

Hmmm, you've looked into what airliners are made of haven't you? And how aluminium alters it's state under very high compression and stress? How it liquifies effectively?

No? You should.

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM »
Every single one of those would have either flown over the building, or spread debris over the top and sides of the building from Hell to breakfast.

Do you really expect us to believe that you are that grotesquely insipid? That seems a stretch, even for you.

Oh bless, you really haven't a clue about aeroplanes do you other than handing in your boarding pass and the complimentary nuts and drink.  ;D

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 03:14:46 PM »
Hey, since this is the thread for jets... how did the plane that allegedly flew into the Pentagon, counteract the ground effect?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_(aircraft)



Show your work.


You mean like these?  ;D


25541
Random Topics / Re: Whats Wrong With This Chick?
« on: May 08, 2014, 12:04:58 PM »
<---------- This is hot.  You deny it Puddy?


'This'?

As in object? Is 'it' an inflatable doll? I've photographed lot's of attractive women and handsome men in a past life taking photographs..So your avatar I'm afraid doesn't make my pants twitch, sorry...I'm sure she's very nice in the flesh, but maybe only until she starts to speak? Many many pro models aren't that bright or sexy, but trust me on that. Yet the sexiest and most stimulating (and creative in the sack) you probably wouldn't look at twice because they don't reach your recognised standards..

25542
Random Topics / Re: Whats Wrong With This Chick?
« on: May 08, 2014, 12:00:09 PM »
My friend has a truck with a license plate that says CHKMGNT.   It's a piece of shit old truck.  Maybe that's me and I'm just spewing smelly gas out my anal cavity.  The bits of poop land right in your nose Puddy.  Don't you love it?

You flatter yourself too much. Get your arse wiped, it's not attractive.

25543
Random Topics / Re: Whats Wrong With This Chick?
« on: May 08, 2014, 11:38:26 AM »
Flaw??

She wears glasses?  She likes the color pink?  She didn't shave her underarms?   ???

You need to see it from Area51's POV..he's the authority on which women do and don't make it to the international exacting standards. I thought everyone knew that? It's backed up by his own dazzling perfection that has women literally throwing themselves at him.

Maybe.

25544
You people fascinate me

That's because you're learning stuff that they don't tell you on conspiracy websites. One day you really will understand asthma and grief. Small steps though, don't rush into that learning stuff.

25545
Politics / Re: Sharia VS LGBT Rights
« on: May 08, 2014, 06:33:06 AM »
Fuck, yes. I work with 2 gay Muslims.

Fucking liberals.  ;D

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 06:23:12 AM »
I didn't say I'm out there doing that or anything, but I've certainly seen it before myself at airshows.    When a real jet can float like those rc planes, then let's talk.   Of course, their engines will probably be too powerful for the airframe at that point.. lol

I think I'm right in saying that the Pegasus used in the Harrier is the most powerful normally aspirated turbine made fitted in a military aircraft. What is the key in this is vectored thrust. Getting it to work and move the aircraft in all directions whilst the airframe retains it's integrity is the engineering challenge.

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 05:10:52 AM »
The first pair of these were models, if you didn't know.   Look at :48 and 1:28, it's quite clear.  Plus somei of this shit they're doing is with their landing gear out.    You can pretty much do most of this stuff with prop models as well, although you don't have the rear exhaust, obviously.   The second part is real, but nothing that impressive.

Yeah I know first lot are R/C. But if you don't think throwing a vectored thrust fighter around the sky isn't impressive you'll have to post your own piloting skills vids.

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Didn't read it, but I think I have the gist of what it would say...

At first I thought you was thinking the "Art had loot, Ramona had a serious medical condition, why wasn't there more live saving gear in the RV, hindsight's always 20/20, wonder if Art blames himself" angle in your back in the day post.  But I'm thinking your going in a more intentional direction...

Your first part...  for some reason I doubt the "nobody knows" part.  There's one I can think in particular would have probably talked.

The second part... everyone's brain works differently.  Especially after a loss in your life.  Trust me, I know.

Oh give him credit. He's a cv surgeon on his days off and an expert on asthma and it's variations so why wouldn't he also be an expert in grief counselling and how different people react differently?

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 04:03:54 AM »
I was almost (no I wasn't really) taken in until I got to:

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but only after it had ascended to nearly 44,000 feet where “undoubtedly” all of the other passengers and crew were killed by asphyxiation.

Flying at FL440 would not cause asphyxiation. That's assuming the aircraft could aerodynamically fly at that altitude. But don't let fact get in the way of a good conspiracy.

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i dont think i would care what art bell said about me or what anyone else would say
im a dude who picks trash for a living, so lots of people say things about me offline, brush it off

Look. You might not think you're high enough up the food chain to warrant any interest, and I can buy that. But put yourself in the shoes of others. You don t have the right to make unsubstantiated accusations against others. By your own admission you pick up trash, yet you're an expert on the ins and outs of asthma and exactly how it manifests in all people. You really do 't know what you're talking about and just parrot whatever you've read that seems to fit what you already think. You prove that by ignoring all referances to the official post mortom and instead keep trying to sell the murder bs. And why should YOU be let near any official pathology report? You pick up trash, you're not a coroner.

25551
Politics / Re: Sharia VS LGBT Rights
« on: May 08, 2014, 01:26:02 AM »
This reads like a laundry list of stereotypes.

It really only seems to be an American thing (in the west) that people are judged in their entirity by who they voted for in the last election. They're told that if they agreed on (for instance) 60% of what candidate 'x' stood for, by definition they must agree with the other 40%. It doesn't work like that in  the real world. We don't agree with everything our friends and family think and say, so that because we choose to have them around us doesn't make us slavishly in agreement with everything. Because anyone is liberal thinking doesn't  make them in agreement with everything another liberal thinking person thinks..I certainly don't. Similarly right wingers don't all agree with each other.By the logic some employ, does this mean some do choose their friends based on who their political allegiances lie with? If so then something really is fucked.

25552
Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 08, 2014, 12:46:32 AM »


Came across this display...Impressive yes?

25553
the problem is, you want two and two to equal five.


Or as Astroguy said it isn't even wrong...it's the same as saying (paraphrase)  6+dog=laserbeam

25554
libel would be if i said
"oh look i have proof that mr bell murdered his wife" and then posted a bunch of fake shit and even then i dont believe the law applies to public forums where free speech is supposed to be protected, tho obviously some of those freedoms have not been protected in the world as of late....

point is its more of a thing for newspapers and magazines and shit, possibly blogs, but are there cases of internet forum libel? ive never heard of one personally

soo im open to someone pointing one out


You keep believing that, and ask various websites about libelous comments from unsubstantiated accusations and how the site owner is more than willing to help interested parties with their enquiries....


It's always amusing how the same people who see nothing wrong in making defamatory accusations are the same who want their 'freedoms' protecting..Such as the freedom to destroy someones reputation? How much would they mind if say Art Bell started spouting unsubstantiated crap about you? And you had strangers repeating it on CT websites, that were all lies, but hey...that's 'freedom' eh? Oh, and you couldn't afford to sue for libel, but people believed the shit about you? Sting a bit?

25555
i can say what i want man, i have reasons to believe that he murdered her and i told them. lots of other people think he murdered her too so blah blah this can go back and forth forever.
if you want to murder someone and do it right you can get away with it, especially when you have money and power and influence and prestige. so to talk about autopsy reports and shit makes no sense, but he was out on the meat market again within 2 weeks and then fled the country for a bit and her death was totally suspicious if his story is that he was "sleeping" through probably moans for help from her (i had forgotten about the part about him sleeping through it until you mentioned)


Your call MV but he's making accusations that might be seen as you sanctioning because you're not deleting them. In the Uk the web owner's name is above the door and they can and do get hammered (even from the US) if someone makes libelous comments.

AS for GMD...get a fucking purpose in life, you're obsessed with death, even wanting it on a radio host...Get some help Soon!

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Random Topics / Re: The Jet Thread
« on: May 07, 2014, 02:44:46 PM »
Back in the mid 80s, my then pre-teen nephew bought the F-19 plastic model kit.  He was so excited, I didn't have the heart to tell him it didn't exist.


Ahh yes, 'they' want you to think it doesn't exist... I know a bloke who knows a bloke who worked with a bloke (a senior supervisor in Walmart) whose brother knew a pilot (Crop sprayer in a Pawnee) who knew a guy (a truck driver) who saw one, once..In fog.

Need anyone need to ask more? You need an 'expert' to read the data?


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I wish I was asleep now, then this thread would only be a nightmare.

Please don't start saying that

Or I'll start believing you

If I start believing you

I'll know that this party fears two


(With thanks to the late great Billy Mackenzie)

25558
no


"And that your honour is the case for the defence in this libel trial"

25559
like i would rather you people just feel how you want about it nobody was trying to shove it in your face.
on other conspiracy sites people are just like oh yeah he obv killer her.t

Yeah, because by and large Conspiracy sites are frequented by the terminally unable to think, crazy and just not fit to breath air. They have no ability to have any critical thinking and believe ANY shit anyone comes along and tells them..I know this to be true because I got thrown off one such site because I spun a story about some crap only 'I and a few close colleagues knew about'. It was the blue touch paper and you wouldn't believe the takers who told me I was doing 'great work' and to be careful. I got thrown off because I owned up to it and the mods didn't have the same approach to psychological research, fun.

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because he was asleep when she died.


Oh C'mon, since when has being asleep been an excuse for not knowing what was going on if you'd been awake? I can give the benefit of the doubt, but simple unconsciousness is no excuse*.



*I'm making that bit up, I have to  in case he thinks I'm going along with his delusions.

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