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Quote from: The General on August 03, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
A true Brit.  Comparing gun control to Ebola outbreaks.  Brilliant.

I'm comparing risk...So which do you think will be more risk to you at this time? Roughly?


You still didn't say how the doc should have been treated though.

Quote from: The General on August 03, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
Anybody who travels to Africa or any third world nation, whether it's for humanitarian reasons or not, knows the risks they are taking.  But it's their life they play with.  By bringing him here, it's not just his life we are playing with any longer.  Viruses don't care if you are compassionate or not.  Perhaps he should have been taken to your house and you could feed him some chicken soup?

You say he shouldn't have been taken to the USA, but you haven't suggested what he should have done.

It is interesting that you make much of this doctor who has been repatriated to the US for treatment in an isolation unit that will be sealed from the rest of the hospital let alone the rest of Atlanta. He's being cared for by medics who will be fully protected and trained in dealing with this sort of incident. The chances of you, anyone you know, or don't know in the US being infected by this doctor is less than you being eaten by a great white you find in your bath.



It's interesting because your chances of being murdered by someone who has had no psychology testing and can legally hold a firearm is very many more times higher. That's playing with a lot of peoples lives. Stray bullets don't care who they hit, they're not compassionate at all. 

You might find this quite fun to play with too...

http://www.htwins.net/scale2/

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A man has completed his challenge to push a Brussels sprout up Snowdon using his nose.

Stuart Kettell, from Balsall Common in the West Midlands, started out on Wednesday and reached the 1,085m (3,560ft) summit in three days.

The 49-year-old trained for his charity mission by pushing a sprout around his garden with his nose.

Mr Kettell said he selected a large sprout so it would not fall down a crevice in the rock.

His aim was to collect at least £5,000 in sponsorship for Macmillan Cancer Support, but does not yet know how much he has raised.

"People definitely think I'm mad, and I'm beginning to think it myself," he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-28621775

There's no escape...Oh there is.. (Say Stellar's name backwards over and over while drinking warm milk and this will appear).



http://youtu.be/vcWn_IrqBPc

It isn't just Sabbath folks....An airliner pilot has the word too.


http://youtu.be/LfrENoTJdo4

But then this is what happens.


http://youtu.be/vcWn_IrqBPc

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When I was young I decided to go to Medical School.


In the entrance exam we were asked to rearrange the letters PNEIS and form the name of an important human body part which is most useful when erect.

 
Those who answered SPINE are doctors today.   The rest of us are sending jokes via email.

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on August 03, 2014, 01:13:11 AM
Dude, don't be like that. 

These are educated people who fully understood the risks they were taking, and took them anyway for reasons you don't know.  Now you would have us insert ourselves into that process because of some abstract moral principal that might not apply here.  Your heart is in the right place, but you might be the bull in the china shop.  Certainly you shouldn't speak about The General or anyone else as being uncaring just because they approach this situation differently than you do.

If an outbreak of Ebola breaks out in GA I'll gladly say I was wrong.

Quote from: Kelt on August 02, 2014, 07:06:05 PM
Like a Flintstones cartoon.

Stop rolling your fucking eyes.

Dogs would have pissed up it too, lose the ballast before they chased dinosaurs.


I can't stop rolling my eyes, it's a tick I have...you have tickism. Reported.

Quote from: The General on August 03, 2014, 01:00:04 AM
Your reading comprehension is almost as bad as your butchering of the English language.

Hey I still call a toilet a toilet and not a rest or bathroom.

Quote from: The General on August 03, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
Anybody who travels to Africa or any third world nation, whether it's for humanitarian reasons or not, knows the risks they are taking.  But it's their life they play with.  By bringing him here, it's not just his life we are playing with any longer.  Viruses don't care if you are compassionate or not.

What you mean is I think is: I don't give a shit about anyone but me, because when it comes down to it, only I matter. Fuck him.


It's like the line from Airplane. "They knew what they were doing when they bought their tickets, I say let em crash"   

Let's hope one day you don't contract a notifiable disease you need treatment for eh?

Help you? How? The medics weren't allowed to treat people before you to know what to do.

Quote from: albrecht on August 03, 2014, 12:07:28 AM
Quite. But so is insulting, and oddly not  you being even aware of his own vaunted NHS vaccination scheme, Considering we  are (unlike your NHS)  are bring Ebola victims here. Now I agree, somewhat, with the open-borders problems but was funny how you thought your country still did TB vaccines! Also, sadly, your best medical journal the Lancet started, or at least legitimized, this whole anti vaccine movement. It has been  dismissed, thankfully,  but the best medical journal published it.

I said I had a TB jab. I did. The Lancet publishes a lot of things. To it's eternal shame it published the Andrew Wakefield shit about the MMR jab causing autism. However to it's credit it later admitted it's failings on that one; which is more than can be said about conspiracy theorists who claim shit and don't apologise when they're wrong (Which is 99.999% of the time).


Incidentally how do you know there'll be no Ebola victims brought to the Uk for treatment? We have the virus being tested on in labs to find a vaccine, what makes you think there's no plans to try and treat patients?

Quote from: The General on August 02, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
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Ebola isn't fucked up, given the right conditions it's quite efficient. Making a poster that suggests leaving a doctor who was helping others  in a poor African country to fend for himself is fucked up though.

The unit being used currently has been used for previous dangerous diseases by the way.  It isn't the first time it's benn used.

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Quote from: wr250 on August 02, 2014, 02:28:59 PM
as was i. i got the chicken pox, and measles. the shot you dont remember what it was was probably tetanus, which is usually given after a puncture wound or severe cut.

Year probably, but I've had a few since then...Industrial accident reasons usually.

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it should be noted that vaccines do not prevent a disease. vaccines only cause the body to recognize the pathogen before it can get established enough to be serious (and usually before symptoms manifest) and destroy it via antibodies . it does absolutely no good in those with very weak or compromised immune systems.

Yes, I know. Although it also goes you need a minimum take up for the efficacy.

Quote from: Foodlion on August 02, 2014, 02:13:05 PM
As much as anyone would think, this would be easy to control. In reality the people are attacking the hospitals and health workers. The so called control measure used it failing, and the last line of defense are bombs and bullets.

Oh come on; why not go straight to bombs and bullets? That way someone will get a hard on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28560507

I know you're not really interested, but most of the problem is superstition and fear of reporting a case in a family. They're terrified of it being confirmed, so attacking any medical workers isn't the highest of priorities...

But then, Doctors and nurses in US and UK hospitals that have to also cater for the asswipes of the world also get attacked by non Ebola carrying drunken, drugged up fucks. They should get the bullet, but not because they're afraid, but because they're fucks.

Quote from: The General on August 02, 2014, 02:10:57 PM
They are exactly knuckleheads.

Yeah, they should have taken a cross section of the average forum user to advise them on their transport strategy.

Quote from: albrecht on August 02, 2014, 01:33:35 PM
A very small population in the US is vaccinated against TB.
Tuberculosis (TB) Vaccination
"BCG is a vaccine for TB. This vaccine is not widely used in the United States"
http://www.cdc.gov/Vaccines/vpd-vac/tb/default.htm
"BCG is a vaccine for TB. This vaccine is not widely used in the United States, but it is often given to infants and small children in other countries where TB is common. BCG vaccine does not always protect people from getting TB."
http://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/faqs/qa_latenttbinf.htm#Latent4

That's where the USA falls down.. I was vaccinated against diphtheria, TB, polio and whooping cough as a kid. I had another as a teenager but can't remember what it was. I had measles and so did my younger brother, we were both pretty ill with those, him more so because he was about 4. All kids get chickenpox, so that's done with.

You need a vaccination programme to get immunity; God, magic, angels, and good luck is no substitute. The cost is no cost compared with the alternative.


A Doctor walks...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28625309

Quote from: BattyBrooke on August 01, 2014, 04:54:43 PM
Radio hosts of news programs that do zero research on their daily topic of discussion. This woman went on and on for 2 hours about how the jury in the Oscar Pistorius trial should have been sequestered. THERE IS NO JURY IN THE OSCAR PISTORIUS TRIAL. They do not use a jury in their justice system. There is ONE judge. He/she decides guilt or innocence. NO JURY. The radio host was so passionate and emphatic in her argument and she sounded like a total dumbass. Could her producers not have informed her? Why did she not know this critical bit of information on her own? How could she be so worked up about a case she is quite obviously not following? I am sure even the janitorial specialist knows there is no damn jury.

But where would the fun in that be? Being a talking head on radio mostly doesn't need a great deal of wit. We have a radio presenter who does weekdays 12noon til 2pm on BBC Radio2. Name of Jeremy Vine..there's even a spoof twitter account about him called Jeremy Vine watch.  Irony the bloke worked as a journo in South Africa some years ago, but his knowledge is that...anything else he's a total tool.

Quote from: albrecht on August 02, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
There are many other diseases we should worry more about, like all the TB, some resistant, coming over with our friendly illegals since we, or our children, are more likely to catch those. Ebola is scary as hell but, relatively, hard to catch. Especially in countries with a higher standard of living, less population density, and proper medical facilities. You need actual contact with the infected, not like the flu, the cold, or like the Pertussis and TB coming over with our friendly illegals. And the place where these patients are going are world-standard facilities and used to dealing with very nasty stuff. Though I must admit the odd delivery of the patients looked at little amateur. When the President was in town recently they shut down whole highways, screwed up traffic all day, etc. You would think for a very deadly disease they would at least have a roving escort on the route and block traffic. They do that for a basic funeral procession even!

Shall I bother? Yeah go on then...only 22 words in you manged to get 'illegals' in. Then mentioned it again. What is the take up rate for TB vaccination in the USA? 70%? 85%? 90%? As for the Presidents motorcade closing the roads; are you kidding me? Really? When did that start to happen? This year? Don't say since 2008 since black people got in the limo...No!!!

Three of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence were educated at Cambridge University. As were Charles Darwin and Steven Hawking.


The adult human has normally 20 feet of small intestine.

Quote from: zeebo on August 02, 2014, 01:28:23 AM
The oldest known living tree, a bristlecone pine, is believed to be just over 5000 years old.

Only a 1000 years younger than the Earth, that's something; it would have had dinosaurs and people milling around it...  :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28610112

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It spreads by contact with infected blood, bodily fluids, organs - or contaminated environments. Patients have a better chance of survival if they receive early treatment.

Initial flu-like symptoms can lead to external haemorrhaging from the eyes and gums, and internal bleeding that can lead to organ failure.

A US relief agency is repatriating two of its American staff who have contracted the virus in Liberia.

A flight carrying the first of the patients - Dr Kent Brantly - landed at and US Air Force base in Georgia at about 16:00 GMT.

Hundreds of US Peace Corps volunteers have already been evacuated from the West African countries.

Separately, US President Barack Obama announced that delegates from affected countries attending a US-Africa conference in Washington next week would be screened.

"Folks who are coming from these countries that have even a marginal risk, or an infinitesimal risk of having been exposed in some fashion, we're making sure we're doing screening," he said.

A Doctor speaks:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28613885

Quote from: West of the Rockies on August 02, 2014, 11:30:00 AM
I imagine that officials must have pondered such concerns as traffic accidents and so forth; they aren't knuckleheads.   I'm not being purposefully contentious--just offering another perspective.

Stop it now...We know what happens when you do that.

Quote from: analog kid on August 02, 2014, 11:53:23 AM
What is going on in this thread.

I just don't understand.

No-one likes a show off. You got lucky, okay?

Quote from: Quick Karl on August 02, 2014, 07:07:26 AM
I bet those theoretical gay soldiers you're babbling about don't act like the stupid cunts that you two do.

Theoretical? You're certain all soldiers are heterosexual? Not that either persuasion would make any impact on your chances of getting laid.

Quote from: Quick Karl on August 01, 2014, 09:36:06 PM
How dare you inject reason, logic, and facts, into an irrational-emotion-based argument.

WTF is wrong with you anyways?

Sucking up to PB still won't make him like you. Honestly.

Quote from: Quick Karl on August 01, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
You queers sure are funny, in a nauseating kinda way...

I'd love to see you videoed pissing off a gay soldier just back from Afghanistan. Show him how tough you are. I'd find it funny, really I would.