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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:18:31 AM »
Just another random allegation from you. You're full of them for everyone, not just Trump...which is why we should, as a nation collectively put you out of your misery, sunshine. ;)


This is you..Wasn't difficult to find...

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I'm sick of faggots whitewashing these scumbags like McCain. You want to discuss him? First know who he really is becuase I ain't buying the fairytale version. He was the deep state's point man for secret ISIS dealings, obviously...and that's just one of many reasons to wish death upon that fucker. How many Americans have died because of him? Do you care? He doesn't.  ::)

In response to 21st Century man saying this..

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I don't wish McLame death- that's going too far IMO- but I'll be happy when he is gone from the Senate.  Flake, Corker, Cornyn, McConnell and some others too.


Course you don't insult people who disagree with you.  ::) ::)

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:04:09 AM »
Umm...what I was trying to say that you're obviously too stupid to understand is that you started with the insults first so you should expect them, moron. ;)


Oh, leave your insults to me to one side; You do it with anyone that your very fragile ego perceives as disagreeing with you..21st Century man being one.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:02:29 AM »

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:43:30 AM »
Aw! He's likely to pitch but he doesn't like to catch. Did it hurt your widdle fingers?! :D

Stupid faggot! ::)

You're the bitch who accuses everyone else of using insults...Yeah, that'll be you..  ;D ;D



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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:40:53 AM »

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:39:40 AM »
The sad thing about you is your an inbred moron from an island of pedophiles. Keep watching CNN!

You're the bit h who accuses everyone else of using insults...Yeah, that'll be you..  ;D ;D


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:35:32 AM »
Fuck you, you piece of British excrement!

Oh my, you are strung out...Your dealer putting baking soda in your meth?  :-\  Why do you hate America?

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:34:16 AM »


The sad thing, you actually believe this shit.. What does the hippy who can't afford shirts say? If he agrees, you're good to go..What about Trump News and Breitbart?

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:28:05 AM »


Look at these smug bastards! They're essentially saying, Yeah, so what?! What are you gonna do about it?! Clearly, the islands are infested with communist Obamites. ::)

Still here?

Hey don't worry, Trump was playing golf (You know the game he said he wouldn't have time for?), if a false alarm happens again, there's every chance that Trump will tweet that the USA is about to attack NK, and then all hell will be let loose..

But Obama..

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:25:44 AM »
Is anyone else concerned about Pud?  At least once a week we hear these alarming descriptions of what his bride does to those who cross her.

She had three brothers, so can take care of herself. I think its only right that someone who is prepared to insult her to her face is aware of things. I'm reasonably confident though it won't happen, because the meth addicted insomniacs haven't the balls.  ;)

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:51:25 AM »
I really can't comment on your Socialist utopia, other than suggest they dump socialism.

Thatcher was many things, but socialist wasn't one of them..Try again.


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As far as the dotcom bubble burst, to a certain extent it was a normal part of the boom and bust cycle.  Exacerbated as usual by government, in this case the Fed.  The economy got overheated due to excess money in the system, and excess greed during a period when nearly everyone was making a lot of money. 

Tiny startup companies got investor money even though their ideas were bad.  People chose to work for them.  Investors bought their stocks when they had their IPOs.  Other companies sold them goods on credit.  Bill Clinton's Fed allowed too much money to be created.  And that was the result.


Can you at least step back and see the larger picture, say the 25 years from 1982 to 2007?  That didn't work for you?

Not particularly. Sure I learned my trade and was/am good at it. But the rich/poor divide is as large as it ever was, since the 80s.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:37:39 AM »
Yep, he certainly did inherit a mess.

Then didn't do a thing to improve it.  No, he came to power interested in social issues, dividing the country as best he could and weakening it in general when he got the opportunity.  He wasn't interested in the economy, other than to hambstring it when he could

If you can think of any positive steps he took to improve the economy, please let me know because I must have missed them


Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Dated 2012

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/Documents/20120502_EconomicGrowth.pdf

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Despite the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and a series of shocks in its
aftermath, the economy has gradually strengthened since mid-2009, though more work remains.

Growth in the U.S. has outpaced that of other advanced economies affected by the global
financial crisis.

2016

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/current-us-economic-recovery-may-end-up-as-longest-ever-2016-07-18

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Current U.S. economic recovery may end up as longest ever
Published: July 19, 2016 1:52 p.m. ET

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:34:05 AM »
Showw yourr faggott workingss.. .. ..


Show me how to prove a negative flower boy.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:33:38 AM »
Golly, I'm shocked the Democrat Fake News Media would insist on such crap.  You know, the people who love ever bigger government and endless tax increases.  The people who hate Reagan and love Obama.  Why would they lie about the benefits of lower taxes?

You want evidence?  How about the economic revolution Reagan unleashed:  25 years of astonishing, record setting growth, the rise of the digital world, including high-tech, communications, bio-tech.  Do you really need to have that pointed out to you?   

You're going to seriously go along with the ''trickle down'' label, then claim it doesn't work?  Unbelievable.

And tell the audience, what happened after that little miracle. Extra points if you can incorporate 'economic bubble', 'Yuppy', and 'Over leveraged'. It doesn't work you idiot unless you're already rich. Ask the poor sods who lost their jobs through no fault of their own what they thought of it. My ex brother in law who went on to get a PhD in economics sucked in his cheeks with embarrassment when he saw the town he grew up in have an economic collapse and skilled workers went to work on monday morning to be told it was all over. And he was a devout Thatcher disciple.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:27:19 AM »
The US economy is extremely strong and resiliant.  More so than any economy in the past, or around the world.  It typically runs despite the goings on in Washington DC, despite the politicians, and despite the Fed, strangling regulations, excessive taxes, restrictive employment laws, and all the rest.

Regarding the economy, the government can really only do two things:  put up obstructions, or take them down.  Reagan took them down.  Much of what a president does to influence an economy involves confidence:  either the decision makers have confidence the president is pro-business, or they don't.  With Obama they didn't.  With Trump, they do.  It seems like a small thing, but it's extremely important.

Our economy would have rebounded from the 2008 meltdown regardless.  That the recovery was as anemic as it was was shocking. You can assign the blame for that on Obama:  his actions, his comments, his priorities, and how that affected the confidence the economy had in him.  With Trump, all that negitivity was replaced by the opposite



Obama inherited one of the biggest economic slumps in modern history-it was in all the papers, loads of firms closed, people lost their homes and jobs.. (Did you miss that bit?). Trump inherited a recovery and is calling it his own, So therefore Trump has very little to do with the continuing upward trend...  Dispense with the disingenuous shit.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:16:32 AM »
Russia is an important country due to it's military power.  Putin happens to be their leader. 

Trump isn't remotely concerned about military power. Sure, he likes to puff his fat chest out to say he's got the best generals (Who just happen to be the same ones who he said he knew more about warfare when he was running as a candidate), the best aircraft (including the fictitious F52 that he says Norway are talking delivery of), but he has no intellectual curiosity about any of it. Which is why he's flippant in tweeting about how he'd launch ICBMs. His only interest in Putin is what he thinks Putin can do for him, personally. Or do against him personally. It has nothing to do with what 'deal' he imagines Putin can do with the USA; Not a lot considering the GDP of Russia is smaller than Italy's yet for reasons we can only imagine (Money laundering) it has more billionaires than any other country on the planet--Trickle down economics eh?

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Let's go over some history of how our relationship with them was blown, including what led to Putin became leader in the first place, the abject failure of the Obama Administration in dealing with him, and Bill and Hilary's corrupt dealing with the Russians at the expense of our security.  Then maybe we can criticize Trump for not doing the same.

When the Soviet Union fell, Yeltsin became President of Russia.  They wanted to be freinds with us, although given the historical rivalry there were some suspicions to overcome.  There were also legitimate concerns within regarding the makeup of the governments of the newly created countries on their borders, and Russian citizens living there.

Bill Clinton began meddling in the elections of certain governments, siding with candidates that opposed the preferred candidates of the Russians.  We had no business doing that.  It led to the rise of Putin, who canpaigned against US meddling and won his own election.

Bush II did the same thing.  Clinton and Bush both treated the new Russian state shabbily when there was no need to do so.  We alienated them and pushed them away.  We did that. 

Obama inherited a badly blown opportunity, which he was only too happy execerbate - either through his desire to intentionally undermine the US anyway he could, or through abject incopetence.  Probably both.

Hilary Clinton sold 20% of our uranium supply to the Russians,

No she didn't. She did not. That is mendacious bullshit.. I don't like Clinton, or even the Clintons, but she didn't do that.

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in a deal that got Bill huge ''speaking fees''.  Obama and some other hack administration officials signed off as well.  I believe the FBI has opened a case to investigate, hopefully they will finally have the will to fully investigate at least one Clinton scandal.  I think looking into the phony ''foundation'' for a source of bribes on this and other activity would be a good start.

These are just some ofthe bigger pieces of corruption and incompetence.  There's more, but you get the idea.


Back to Trump.  Why shouldn't he at least try for a fresh start, or at least improve the relationship?  Seriously.  What good do you think it would do for Trump to start disparaging Putin?  What benefits do you think would come out of that?  You don't like Trump when he calls people out, and you don't like him when he doesn't.  Go figure.


Get this right...Trump tweets when his uber thin skin is pricked over any perceived slight, anything. Yet he is notably silent that Putin has (and continues to) orchestrate a systemic attack on the west. We're talking major attacks, that is justified by Trump because Putin 'Says he didn't do it'!! Its a new model for courts..The defendant denies it so it stands to reason they're innocent. (See Trump and Roy Moore).

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:02:04 AM »
Well, $66 million minus $12.8* million he paid to himself

And those outside donations gave us the Mercers (Breitbart, Bannon, Conway), and Cabinet Members

Steve Mnuchin $425k, Betsey DeVos $1.8m, Linda McMahon $7.5, Ben Carson $100k, Todd Ricketts $1.3m , Wilbur Ross $200k, Andrew Puzder $332k

*Federal Election Commission data and reports that the Donald Trump campaign paid his own companies $12.8 million.

That's millions to Trump Tower and Trump's private plane, plus hundreds of thousands more for office suites, hotels, employees, security, and so on. Also:

Trump’s Palm Beach club Mar-A-Lago, which he designated as his “Winter White House,” was paid $435,000 by the campaign for facility rental, catering and lodging, while his golf courses were paid $398,000 for the same services.

Eric Trump’s Charlottesville, Virginia, vineyard was paid $32,000 for facilities rental and catering, while a linked company — Trump Virginia Acquisitions — was paid $2,300 for lodging. (Eric Trump, his wife Lara Trump and his brother Donald Trump, Jr., also were reimbursed $56,000 by the campaign for travel and meal expenses).

Payments for meals and catering went to Trump Restaurants, LLC ($78,000), Trump Grill ($608) and Trump Café ($95), while Trump Restaurants, LLC also was paid $141,000 for rent and utilities.

Even a company called Trump Ice got in on the action, charging the campaign $3,400 for beverages for meetings, and office supplies.

Yeah, but no inference should be taken he only went into it to make him and his family richer...  ;)

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:45:45 AM »

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:41:44 AM »
Amen sister.

Record stock market.

I asked this before, but you couldn't answer--Other than those holding shares and milionaires how does this benefit you?
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Record number of record closes.

No idea what you're saying here..
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Record unemployment,

What is it now? 52%? 78%? Walmart announced they're closing stores this week. Carefully hidden into announcing bonuses..

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Record drop in illegal immigration.
The jobs they did replaced by white people? Oh wait...

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Highest economic growth in 20 years.

No it isn't...It's been growing since 2009.

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Thanks to his tax 90% of Americans will receive a tax cut.

...to be taken away later...Medical bills will rise too..

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Millions getting pay increases thanks to his tax cut.

Can you show that?

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Corporate tax cuts will grow economy to highest it’s been in 30 years.

Nope...Corporate tax cuts will benefit the execs and shareholders within. There is no such provable animal as trickle down economics.. If there is, please show me..

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It must suck to be always be wrong. Poor bastard.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

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But he’s orange. an incompetent, narcissistic, cry baby, gormless, illiterate, racist, misogynist, idiotic asshole, and orange.



FIFY.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:32:03 AM »
Evidence please

Well Trump hasn't ever remotely criticised Putin for the previous and ongoing cyber attacks on not just US, but other Western allies' electoral and infrastructure systems, although all US security agencies and agencies from the UK, Holland, France, Germany and Italy have brought it to his attention. Or are they all making it up?  ::)

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:28:51 AM »
The same way Dole, Bush II, and Romney did.  The Fake News media chose their preferred candidate to run against, and convinced the Republican Primary voters he was ''the only one who can win''.

They did the same with Trump, by the way, with a couple of wrinkles.  1) there was a huge field, so it was easy for them to get away with only covering Trump, and due to the large field it was easy for him to then win primaries with 30% of the vote, and 2) there were some voters voting for Trump who wouldn't normally vote, or vote for the Rs.

But we still hear it now: ''Trump was the only one who could have beaten Hilary''.  As with McCain, et. al. from earlier election years, he was in reality probably the candidate least likely to win - but even he could beat her.


Oh is that the same 'fake news' who preferred Trump by a huge margin but now don't?  ??? 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:25:25 AM »
Do you speak for Laura like that too? I bet she finds it charming, amirite? :D

WHAT.ARE.YOU.TALKING.ABOUT?

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Random Topics / Re: Google Adsense is finished on BellGab.
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:24:30 AM »
Can we assume that with this thread running to so many pages that its an indication that MV has had multiple donations by those posting on it?

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:17:37 AM »


He’s a joke, and when he’s gone the country will be better for it.

Never a truer word..





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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:15:07 AM »
He was working with him. Sorry to burst the bubble on your hero. It's just a movable feast to guys like this.  ::)


But you're fine that Trump is best buddies with Putin who has opposition leaders and Russian journalists murdered; Has had a hotel partially built in Azerbaijan that has one of the worst human rights records on the planet ? Got it..  :-\

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:11:35 AM »
I'm going with ABC News, or some PR intern at the White House messed up the name, not the Dr.

Exactly, so why did they attribute it to the doctor if he didn't issue the statement. Its unlikely he'd use a term such as 'exceptionally well'. Trump dictated that to one of his mouth breathers, possible Miller or Conway.


And now the strawman...
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Where were you when Obama was falsifying documents?  Documents that were intended to show he was qualified to hold his office, not some press release about a visit to the doctor

 ;D


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:09:17 AM »
When the African Union openly and publicly condemns their Muslim members for sex with children, and clit mutilation, then I think we can begin to try and take them seriously.

Yeah because Trump is so much more advanced and civilised..  ::)

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:03:07 AM »
Doctor declares Trump is in 'excellent health' after physical

"The president’s physical exam today at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center went exceptionally well. The president is in excellent health and I look forward to briefing some of the details on Tuesday," Dr. Ronny Jackson said in the statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doctor-declares-trump-excellent-health-physical/story?id=52306593

As issued by the Whitehouse...How do we know? Because its unlikely the doctor qualified if he couldn't even spell his own name....The Trump circus can't even falsify statements convincingly.


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 12, 2018, 11:54:46 PM »



O'Keefe is da man... Enough brainless idiots accept what he says to make what he does worthwhile.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 12, 2018, 11:51:50 PM »
You'd like that, wouldn't you? Be honest! :D

Top tip...Go fuck yourself with a baseball bat..Then fuck yourself again.

Anyway, you're settling down for your night stint..I'm off to bed. Don't overdo the meth to keep you awake.. Not good for you.

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