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#1
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 04, 2018, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Metron2267 on July 04, 2018, 01:17:08 PM
I don't see that in him at all.

If anything he seems rather "woke"...

''Everything Trump does is goood, and everything anyone else does is baaad''.  That seems ''woke'' to you?

#2
Archive of Old Threads / Re: Most Gallant
July 04, 2018, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on July 04, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Let's vote for PaperBoy. This obsequious charlatan has been called out on his reprehensible bullshit for years, and the fucking cunt just keeps on plugging away with his shitbag deep state propaganda objectives. He's still doubling down on Bush being a decent human being! Never blinks! Never flinches! What a pro. Never breaks character. He should get a metal.


Hats off. You're a real mensch.

Aw, thanks.  I'd given up being nominated for one of these awards, and of all people MikeStar steps up.  And for Most Gallant.  I'm truly honored.
#3
Quote from: Chocolate coated jackboot on July 04, 2018, 04:02:45 PM
It's possible the week-long vacation might be Vara's punishment for last week's "do the whole thing" debacle. It seems like every big moment like Asia's birthday wishes or an emotional It's-far-worse-than-anybody-has-any-idea speech gets FUBARed by LNM.
NOTE clip edited for brevity, the "do the whole thing" skipping went on for 8min followed by 8min dead air

Gosh, who wouldn't want to work with this twit?

Putting up with the foolishness of people who have talent and star power is one thing, but why put up with this clod?  She listened to Lasha, and chose to change networks and work with a bunch of clowns.  Didn't she do her due diligence?   

Just like Art, she had to have everything her way.  Unlike Art, she isn't very smart, doesn't have any talent, and doesn't have the money to quit when something doesn't go her way.  So the answer is to cry, then claim it's because she misses Art. 


''Uh, well, boy, ragin' thru the night...''
#4
Random Topics / Re: Things That Annoy You
July 04, 2018, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on July 04, 2018, 12:19:38 PM
A citizen speaks.


pro tip: just ask them a lot of questions about "jury nullification" and they'll usher you out shortly. How did you not learn that, while reading all those books... oh, wait. Known toolbox. Got it.

Don't worry, that was going to be brought up if they were to ask me any questions. 
#5
Quote from: Metron2267 on July 04, 2018, 11:42:25 AM
Do you have an idea of month and year when she was on with MV?

I'd be interested to access the archive and hear what early Heather sounded like and how her delivery has changed.

Prepare to be surprised at how much her voice and personality have changed.  And not for the better.

You should also listen to the GabCast when she and Bateman both call in.  Her treatment of him when he was simply trying to be a friend and offer help was quite revealing.
#6
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 04, 2018, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Metron2267 on July 04, 2018, 12:43:55 PM
http://washingtonsblog.com/2013/03/cheney-admits-that-he-lied-about-911.html

Did you read this?  Did you follow any of the links?

Bush, Cheney, and the rest made a huge blunder attacking Iraq and Afghanistan.  It's pointless to really go into it here, unless you want.  We'll probably never know how much of it was incompetence, how much was a decision that didn't turn out well, and how much was on behalf of their cronies and for personal gain.  I personally don't think the latter played into it much at all, at least from Bush Administration officials - of course Haliburton, etc, wanted to maximize business and profits, that's what businesses do, but they don't make the decisions.

But the piece you linked assumes the worst of everyone, and weaves together a pile of shit based on strands pulled out of context from every source possible.  It's something Star A or MikeStar would link 
#7
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 04, 2018, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 04, 2018, 10:58:42 AM
There's no difference at all between them...

Still sticking with the black or white paradigm I see.

Go take a look at the votes in the House and Senate on important legislation and Senate votes on various appointees - from any time period you like.  Scan through the individual votes and check which party they each belonged to - then tell me ''there's no difference''. 

Go look at those votes on those same items during the Trump era - actually look and see which members of which parties voted with his agenda and which didn't.  Instead of stupidly repeating your ''all the same'' BS.  Really, the information is there.  We don't have to wonder about who does what.  Of course that means actually sitting down, clicking a mouse, and reading for a few minutes.

Face it:  you were misled and voted foolishly your entire life.  Your whole family did.  Now you've somehow come to understand that the Party that gave us Obama is a fraud.  You've come to understand the media lies to us constantly and is an advocate for the Ds. 

But you still believe all the BS they told you over the years.  They've lost you as an eager supporter, but as long as they can convince you the other side is ''the same'', they've still got you.


The fact is Trump took the ideas of the Tea Party, the base of the Republican Party, who have been pushing these ideas far longer than Trump has been.  It's great that someone (Trump) finally got through to you, and to others, and got elected and is implementing those ideas, but he isn't alone against everyone else with this.
#8
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 04, 2018, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Metron2267 on July 04, 2018, 11:30:37 AM
I am in complete agreement, the "lesser of two evils" false choice was just that...

It's not a false choice, it's the choice we are presented with on election day.

The only answers available are to retake the Democrat Party from the Progressives, start a third party, or nominate and elect conservatives in the Republican Party.  That's it.  There aren't any other options.  The first two are non-starters, for a variety of reasons. 

Given the choices, the least daunting is to retake the Republican Party.  To do that, we need to stop nominating ''moderates'' in the primaries and elect Conservatives.  Agreeing with disaffected Democrats everyone is ''all the same'' is unhelpful - it plays right into their hands. 

#9
Quote from: brig on July 04, 2018, 12:55:44 AM
Yes, he's much more reliable.

That's one word for it
#10
Quote from: brig on July 03, 2018, 11:11:01 PM
Poor Robin just doesn't understand how much we Trolls enjoy this stuff I guess.  ???

Wait until she finds out how many of us don't believe there was a stalker, or most of the other BS Art put out there the past few years.

Or that he appointed her as his ''legacy''
#11
Heater was very wise to listen to Lasha and take her advice
#12
So funny listening to replay after replay, and her talking about how much she loves doing the show, what a privilege it is, etc
#14
Quote from: brig on July 03, 2018, 09:53:09 PM
The Universe guided Michale Vara into this.

And this network wasn't Heater's first choice?
#15
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 09:51:23 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on July 03, 2018, 09:27:07 PM
That is a true story.



It is pretty interesting, how PaperBoy goes on and on and on about some shit in a reasonably erudite tone, and then clams up and moves on to another topic whenever anything remotely challenging surfaces.

It's obvious and pathetic and I hope your gonads rot from the inside out, you disingenuous quisling spam artist whore.

Oh no, Mike doesn't like my posts.

Where does one go from here?
#16
I can't imagine why anyone would want to have this guy killed
#17
Quote from: Aquarius on July 03, 2018, 09:33:46 PM
Not a peep. Radio silence...

Listening to these two, radio silence sounds really good right now
#18
Quote from: brig on July 03, 2018, 09:30:26 PM
"Too Taosan Tree"

MV was living in Baltimore and had a lawn mowing business
#19
Obviously it was the other MV
#20
Quote from: brig on July 03, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
Poor Michael can't get a word in edgewise.

If the offer's still open, you can get a thumb drive with 9 years of this - and a couple t-shirts - for only $500.
#21
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on July 03, 2018, 09:19:32 PM
Which is it--you don't know how it works, or you think being repetitive and obtuse is clever?

Wait, wait, don't tell me--it's both.

Well, you announce you have me on ignore, and after that you're the first one to respond to my posts.  It's curious.
#22
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 09:20:36 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 03, 2018, 07:42:26 PM
Oh, is that what you were doing?! ::)

BTW, if I were the black and white thinker you say I am I would've never voted for Trump. I would've been one of those duh, duh Republicans who thought that McCain wasn't such a bad guy. ;D

No one ever thought that.  We knew he wasn't Obama.

You're another one who doesn't quite grasp the idea that there are only two possibilities for president in the general election.  At least Pud had the excuse of being new to the country
#23
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on July 03, 2018, 09:12:48 PM
9/11
Waco
Ruby Ridge
go eat a bag of dicks

I thought you have me on ignore
#24
Quote from: Chocolate coated jackboot on July 03, 2018, 08:43:30 AM
Heather doesn't believe in monday shows any more

I keep hoping to hear that Karen is forcing her to stop using ''Kingdom of Nye'' as the name of the show.
#25
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 03, 2018, 07:20:55 PM
Nah! His feelings get hurt and then he just starts in on the name calling. No better than pud, really and just as partisan.

When you aren't able to comprehend a pretty basic idea that's short and written in plain English, ignore the part that already answers what you are responding to, and apply your black and white interpretation to it, I'm going to point it out. 

Then I'm going to explain why you didn't get it in the first place
#26
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 03, 2018, 07:08:01 PM
You never found anything unsavory about the Bushes, et al?

I've had plenty to say about them, some of it was good, most of it not so much.  They were a hell of a lot better than the people you voted for:  Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, and Berock Obama.

I probably don't bring either of them up much, as George W has been out of office for 9 1/2 years and this is the Trump thread.
#27
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: Metron2267 on July 03, 2018, 05:47:53 PM
Let me clip a few quotes from this article that may fit in the gaps on that:

https://theweek.com/articles/746249/utah-doesnt-need-mitt-romney-already-mike-lee

Utah already has a distinguished conservative senator who was anti-Trump during the campaign. Unlike Romney, he played no role in elevating Trump prior to 2016. He was not associated with the Republican failures that made Trump appealing to so many blue-collar conservatives. And he is not tied to the Iraq and immigration policies of the last administration, about which Trump was closer to being right than was much of the Republican establishment.
That would be Mike Lee, who will, upon Hatch's retirement become the senior senator from Utah.

It seems like a lifetime ago now, but Lee was among a handful of consequential lawmakers to hold firm to his anti-Trump convictions at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. He also clashed with the RNC over the rules, defying his mild-mannered reputation as he demanded points of order and shouted "No!" on floor votes.
Even after the convention, Lee never endorsed Trump for president. He spelled out the reasons, rooted in policy and temperament, for why he was sitting this one out. He even took a harder line on Trump's outlandish slurs against Sen. Ted Cruz's (R-Texas) father, Rafael Cruz, than Ted Cruz himself.

"We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend's father of conspiring to kill JFK," Lee told NewsMax TV.

The argument against Lee, however, is that he hasn't always channeled the Resistance since Trump has been in the Oval Office. Lee yukked it up with Trump when he slashed two national monuments in Utah, a move local residents viewed as a federal land grab. He's often voted with Trump, has at times defended the administration's policies, and has been somewhat skeptical of the Russia probe.

Romney, who auditioned to become Trump's secretary of state, would do nearly all these things, too. Utah voters want a senator who will vote for conservative bills, even if Trump is the president who ends up signing them into law. If Special Counsel Robert Mueller uncovers clear evidence against Trump, Romney and Lee would be exactly the senators whose votes would be in play to hold the president into account.

Looks to me like they each stand. chance to benefit from Trump despite trashing him earlier.

The guy is such a deal maker! ::)

Trump isn't a conservative, never gave any indication he was.  Yes, based on that and based on what we'd seen of Trump over the past 30 years, based on his personality and temperament and so on, a lot of conservatives preferred someone else in the primary - even with a remarkably weak field to choose from. 

So what?  Lots of people prefer candidates in the primaries who don't win, for a variety of reasons.  At some point it's typical to back that person, either in the general election or when they are in office.  Trump did attack others for no good reason, and they and their friends and supporters had good reason not to campaign for him.  So what? 

That he's turned out far better than expected is an incredible shock.  I think most people in the party - certainly the Conservatives - have supported his policies when they agree with them.  They aren't the ones actively undermining him.  One thing not to be forgotten is Trump created this situation, and did so purposefully.  Not being a stupid person, he knew he was making enemies and ensuring their full support would not be forthcoming.  He did that. 

Moving forward, I would expect Mike Lee to do what he's been doing:  supporting Trump when he agrees with the policy. 
#28
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 02, 2018, 06:01:14 PM
Really?! Were Stroke and Pain leaders?! ??? ::)

I point out not everyone in the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc is a deep state agent, that Obama put the appointees in place to politicize the agency, and that they recruited a certain number of others already within the agency to do the same.

And your response is to reference Stroke and Pain?  Yes, Stroke and Pain would be two of the ones who were recruited within the rank and file that I already mentioned.  Or did you really think 100s of thousands of employees turned on a dime, abandoned years if not decades of excellent professional service to the country, and became anti-Trump stooges overnight?  That's your theory?

That's not how things work.  You are fucking dumb as a rock.  Absolute moron.
#29
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 02, 2018, 07:19:59 PM
I tried but I'm not establishment enough for PB. For some crazy reason he still believes in that bullshit. ;D

Like I said, you have no concept of nuance of differing ideas within a group.  It's always black and white with you. 

I point that out once again, tell you sometimes I don't agree with Trump, and your response is I'm an Establishment Republican.  Black or white.  At least you never have to actually think for yourself. 
#30
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
July 03, 2018, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 03, 2018, 04:20:06 PM
So, you said earlier that you didn't expect any anti-Trump push back from the establishment douche bags in the senate.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/03/politics/senate-intelligence-putin-donald-trump/index.html

Still think that? :D

I don't think I ever said that as a blanket statement.  In fact I've said many times Trump's counterproductive attacks on people who he needs support from is going to backfire over and over during his entire terms, and that he should stop.

I've said the majority of Rs will support him on certain things, regardless of his - in many cases unfounded - treatment of them

If you're going to refer to my comments, please be accurate.
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