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Quote from: Rix Gins on April 30, 2019, 02:01:34 AM
From the Imperial War Museum, April 30, 1919.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205239384 © IWM (Q 7568)


https://thelawdictionary.org/article/what-is-a-capias-warrant/

A stalker out on bond, sheesh.

Quote from: DaveSchrader on October 22, 2018, 11:52:09 PM
I told you, always lurking.
Sipping my Tidepods and lurking.

DS

Guess you freeze them this time of year.

Quote from: ItsOver on June 09, 2019, 06:13:40 PM
Place a call to Sixteen and you'll have more content than what you'll know what to do with.

You started that? 

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 10, 2019, 02:17:09 AM
Unlike you, you contentless piece of shit.

Woah, when did this hate start?  BTW, ItsOver has been my fake-photoshop INSPIRATION for years.

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 10, 2019, 12:49:57 PM
HEHEHE

I don't think Metron was a sock puppet of AZZERAE.

Quote from: Richard Groyper on June 10, 2019, 03:30:43 PM
im shocked and appalled by this sock puppet revelation.

It is not proven.  Attention-span differences.

Stop!  I signed nothing!  Groyper's lovely videos are all anyone needs.  He can get a partner to alternate, just like someday Spookcat's summaries might need a partner.

As for me, I have the flu, my voice doesn't project, I have no microphone, no keyboard & no notable dancing repertoire at this time.

Maybe we all see now exactly how diligently (or obsessively) George Senda produces his stuff.  It's not always as clever as other people's, but it's prolific.  Y'all could head over there when Groyper is reGrouping!

At this rate, you leave me little choice but to hang by a claw in the Politics thread.

Quote from: albrecht on June 10, 2019, 01:59:58 PM
Cops will harass someone who is doing the right thing and sleeping it off in their car and if you are in the driver's seat or have keys in the ignition they might even attempt to get you for a DUI/DWI but at minimum might try a PI.
So our City Council is building a facility like you mention. The goal, apparently, is instead of police arrest drunks they will send the drunks to this facility to sleep it off without any fines, arrest costs, etc.  Note this will be mainly for drunk college kids, homeless, etc drunk in public- not if you are operating a vehicle while drunk or commit some other crimes.  I'm not sure on what health facilities and security the facility would have.  I would think the City is taking a lot of potential liability by hosting a building of drunks- overdoses, fights, sexual assault, suicides, etc potentially.

I had been looking at it from a working class, commuter POV, but you're right, there are many types of problematic drinkers in public.  Like you, I foresee ODs, fights, assaults, etc...  Especially if not separated by reproductive anatomy (can't really say gender anymore, bec it doesn't mean much).

Our area put in a day shelter and when I drove home from work at 8AM the other day, I noticed the people around it looked awful.  Dressed like prostitutes, looking like addicts.  They ought to do urine/saliva tests & criminal background checks on the spot for access to the facilities.  Other than toilets & hand washing, we should not enable criminals and addicts.  Why should a good poor person be forced in with animals just for lockers & a shower?  Appalling.  My tax dollars paid for it & I wouldn't even feel safe with those people.  I'm a liberal, but I don't support the hand-holding of derelicts.

I think liberals confuse compassion with enabling.

Not to be too negative, though - like, I do hope what they made works out in your area.  If it doesn't draw more creeps in.

This thread keeps changing names.

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 10, 2019, 12:30:02 PM
I suspect they're a side effect of medication, but I do believe the directions one sleeps in can affect them in many areas of their life. For instance, placing ones head towards the east facilitates 10% greater imbibing of the pleasant positive vibrations emanating from the east by the saptachakrās in the body.

I eat a small dinner, and usually no later than six, and also believe in abstaining from excess refined sugars and other stimulants of any kind - especially after sunset. I have chamomile tea nightly, and wondered if this was the culprit, but thought about it and realized its likely not.

I quit drinking about a year ago, because I lost the desire to do so - the taste, its negative effects (being a depressant) ... I'm always thankful when I lose interest in an unhealthy food or drink of any kind, because then its easy as pie to abstain from it.

No hangovers! My God, you're fortunate. When it got to the point where mine would last 3 days plus, I knew it was time to call it quits. And it was difficult, at first, but when you're drinking to get drunk, and grimacing at the taste, you have a deep seated issue.

Seems we have some things in common.

Congratulations on not drinking for about a year, that's great!  And to have lost the taste for it does help.  I try to avoid "triggers" like certain grocery isles & keeping it out of the house as much as I can control.  Last year, I lived with raging alcoholics.  If they left excess booze out, to the extent that I could, I ran it down the drain.  There were a lot of people, so I was never blamed.  Usually they drank types of alcohol which I don't like at all, so that helped.  But other times, I stayed in my room to avoid temptation.  That helped a lot.  Here, I ask others to brown bag it or put it out of my sight, but if they have a drink on their side of the room, that's none of my business.  If I get married, though, I won't be able to have it in the house unless it's locked somewhere out of sight & reach, & no key for me...  I drank to kill back pain and for euphoria.  My back never bothered me when I drank.  I've had to learn a LOT of news ways of coping with lifelong back pain.

I've read about that, sleeping in certain directions.  I like to live & sleep where the terrain isn't too straight.  When I lived in a narrow valley, I slept very well.  Some radio transmissions can't navigate over barriers, maybe that was part of it.

Yeah, maybe I was lucky that way - - but not having regular hangover symptoms really prolonged my denial.  How can you be an alcoholic if you're never hung over?  But, I started getting sick at times outside of drinking, as in getting really sick if I didn't have alcohol in me.  But even that was a subtle message, because I didn't drink around work times.  But I guess my body was starting to need to - the addiction took hold.  Also, I started having difficulty stopping when my drinking time was over so instead of just stopping, I switched to something a lot more diluted for a couple hours.  Looking back, I realize how awful things were.  The morning anxiety, the digestive difficulty outside drinking times, prolonged (diluted) drinking sessions.  Ugh.  I read AA pamphlets over & over thinking about addiction, but none of the pamphlets described me at all.  I finally went cold turkey after a horrible episode and after a year in AA, I finally came across the "pamphlet for women", which actually described me very well.  Gee, considering women are half the population, you'd think all their pamphlets should be gender-neutral & include symptoms of alcoholism in both sexes.  Whatever.

Quote from: Chocolate coated jackboot on June 10, 2019, 12:12:13 PM
I will give you 20 bucks for an interpretive dance of the ice-cream-down-the-drain-incident. No talking necessary

Hey!  Last time a man handed me $20, it was just because I smiled at him!  (Oh, and I was counting nickles at the register while he was in line behind me.)

Quote from: Jackstar on June 10, 2019, 08:00:53 AM
While this was a strong effort, I am unable to determine if this is supposed to be aesthetically, or athletically. DISQUALIFIED.

  My conscious mind meant aesthetically. My subconscious mind knows the two words are very related...

Quote from: Jackstar on March 09, 2018, 01:15:12 PM
Price of silver: unchanged.

Where is the carnage we were promised? I paid for blooood!

I had mixed feelings about selling all my scrap silver years ago, but it's been a long time & ended up being just as well.

Quote from: Jackstar on April 13, 2018, 12:19:13 PM
Trade War Report, Day 36: THE SKY IS FALLING


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-steel-agriculture/trade-war-backfire-steel-tariff-shrapnel-hits-u-s-farmers-idUSKBN1HK0GV


Oh, my God: after a hundred years, this redneck finally learned how to haggle. Now, we're screwed.

Can't someone build one for the $3,500 difference??

Everything is "multi-national".  Some thing should NOT be sold.  Like job and property with nat'l resources.  Our country is owned by a bunch of foreigners.  The article below is interesting, although I don't agree with every detail.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/06/tucker_carlson_elizabeth_warrens_economic_patriotism_plan_sounds_like_donald_trump_at_his_best.html

As long as alcohol-serving establishments don't have reasonably-priced, ample beds, people will drive drunk.  I mean, if a person pays for a ride home, how are they going to get their car back?  They would have to hire another ride or beg from a friend - much of which the neighbors could notice.  Also, on work nights when drunk, the issue becomes too complex to fathom.  Like, you're drunk, you don't want to drive but you know you need to be at work by 9AM.  You plan to work - you've worked many times after nights of drinking, no problem.  Your commute is way too long for cab fare or even Lyft.  You want to stay near your car.  You're not going to monkey around in the morning at home w/ no vehicle trying to figure out how to get your vehicle so you can get to work and back.  Does anyone see how this could be overwhelming to the drunk mind?  Better to have rooms or even portable beds in the places where people drink.  Responsibility can't be all put on the bartender, bec even if they cut someone off, the person could have a flask in their jacket, purse, or car.  So, might as well assume that drinking people will get drunk and give them beds.  Even a secure parking area where they could sleep in their cars would be better than offering nothing. 

Quote from: Jackstar on June 10, 2019, 07:57:42 AM
I don't get how people are having actual spasms over deaths by guns, when vehicles kill far, far more people every day. Completely mystifying to me. Get some perspective.

Get a license!

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 09, 2019, 08:40:47 AM


It all comes down to money, the politics and motivation. Airports cannot afford to be closed down for very long. The major ones (and increasingly the not so major ones) employ more and more sophisticated security measures (most of which is invisible to the traveller and indeed most of the staff who work there) to prevent and/deal with a threat, all of which costs money, lots of it.

      No-one other than an idiot complains about the big picture even if they do about the tedium of all the checks and waiting because if you're on the plane taking you somewhere, you don't want to be sharing a metal tube six miles up with a hijacker. Call it selfishness, but that does play a part. Almost all commercial airports have armed police/guards who are intensely trained to identify, isolate and if necessary eliminate a threat-and they will, make no mistake. The last option though is the last resort because of the inherent risks of catching bystanders.

When it comes to schools it's a different kettle of fish. They're strapped for cash for teaching the kids, where are they going to find the money to implement the measures that you outline? And if they could, have you factored in the other costs of possibly having to rebuild certain/many sections of the internal structure to accommodate such as . Such things aren't cheap and how and where would you put them?

The politics play too because in certain states it's still legal for an abusive spouse to carry a firearm (Because of his 'rights') so how do you intend to prevent someone who is 'law abiding' going rogue and entering school grounds with a concealed firearm? They might even be on friendly terms with the staff, or anyone who is employed to guard the school. Psychopaths are frequently intelligent and know how to manipulate and use others for their own gains using a smile, a joke, even a gesture of kindness. But by the time they get to where they're going and have a target friendly environment it's too late and they're the fox in the hen house.

One answer is attitude. If and when the tipping point is reached and enough people say 'enough' then and only then will anything be done. Until that time, the only empty gesture that is offered, is thoughts and prayers. I get the feeling though that wouldn't be enough for a parent who gets told by the local police their own child isn't coming home from school alive. Studies have shown that kids who have had to endure a shooting are traumatized long after the event, recently an ex student of Columbine took his own life, he was in his thirties. In the USA, kids from an age far too young to understand are trained to go through the procedure of a 'lock down' just in case. What sort of anxiety must that be for them, or do they get inured to it ?I cannot imagine it if I'd done the same at that age.
Is it any wonder that some kids grow up nervous wrecks with anxiety issues and mental illnesses before they're twenty?

No, some don't get inured to the anxiety.  Lots of kids dread being sitting ducks and develop hyper-vigilance which impedes learning.  We've asked too much of students. 

I get philanthropy would be the answer for hardware installations and some initiatives.  It was great that Taylor Swift donated $50,000 for the Seattle Symphony, but when do we ever hear about the rich donating to grade schools, lol.

You know who should do it?  Athletes.  Athletes make boat loads of money & you don't see them building Carnegie Hall with it, do you?  Maybe when they aren't too busy buying fiances, they could stand up for the next generations of this county & put some investment into securing physical safety into grade school education.

As far as how to deal with a student or school visitor carrying a concealed weapon, well, detectors at doors would help.  And really, if they get out of hand, just shoot them to wound and then send them for some cruel punishment before their final sentence.  We have become weak.  Every reputable store has little rooms where security personnel sit, with cameras on all aspects of the store.  Few people notice or care.  But, businesses work very hard at protecting merchandise.  Contingent on funding, I don't see any reason why schools can't have the same professional security rooms.

For a long time, I have wanted us to have compulsory law enforcement service.  What better way than to involve students in their own security projects?  Over the years, the Us versus Them mentality about police has grown to absurd proportions.  So many people just do bad things simply to upset law enforcement.  But, if law enforcement is your daughter, your brother, your neighbor, you, that would give the Us/Them mentality a new feel.  Sometimes officers are assassinated just for being officers.  That might be reduced if everyone, everyone were required to be on the inside for 6 months or a year.  Preferably before they have any criminal record.  I don't think it's asking to much to require American citizens to give back this way.  There could be incentives for getting the service done before graduation, like earning credits, and programs to get it down before a mandatory age limit.  I suppose this opens up a lot of questions, but it's been on my mind for a long time.  We take so much for granted, and a lot of people never give back.  We tax people, but we have few other lifetime requirements.  It's like just paying your way & paying your taxes is enough.  How about serving your country a little?

Another idea is to have smaller schools.  Can't shoot too many people if there aren't too many people there.  Plus, with smaller populations, staff would be more in touch with students' mental health.

Which brings me to:  Mental health.  With both parents working full time and often still struggling, I don't know the answer.  But, many kids just don't have good parenting.  Should schools teach about core values, resiliency, altruism, etc...?  I don't know, but if the parents don't have time...?

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 10, 2019, 02:15:03 AM
Art Bell is the bigger animal.

If you're Filapina.

Gluten free treats usually come in a large package.  I don't need the whole package.  If I keep the remainder in the house, I will eat it.  So, what am I supposed to do?  Some people here disapproved of me crushing it & discarding it.  I don't see any point for leaving it on a trash can in public for addicts.  Well, yesterday I tried giving it away.  The first person I talked to was diabetic, so that was embarrassing for me and frustrating for her.  Shoulda just thrown the shit away.

I risked again, finally giving it to someone else.  She was not diabetic, so that went over fine.  But, she was already fat & it wouldn't really be helping her (nor anyone trying to wrap their arms around her).  But she was young; maybe time & metabolism would some day help her.

I also entrusted a package to someone to keep for me.  That might work.  I've done that before & it went alright.  Actually, it's nice because people never know what to get me when sweets go around & this enabled them to have something nonperishable on hand.  A win-win.  But really, the stuff is just fat & sugar, not real food.  Doesn't do anyone nor their teeth, pancreas, or colon any good.

I did see that some gluten free snacks are now being sold in smaller portions.  And of course, chocolate is always gluten free, and that comes in small packages.  The idea is to keep it out of the house.  Out of sight; out of mind.  Not within reach.

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 09, 2019, 03:58:05 AM
They have been affectionately called "bee stings". Yes, I'm small, but I make up for it in other ways.

Lol.  So, nothing a small extra leg can't make up for.

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 10, 2019, 02:08:45 AM
Paladin, wherever you are: I give you full permission to spill the tea on me. You have my secrets. Air out that dirty laundry, for all in sundry. Its been a weight on my shoulders for too long.

Someone needs to visit the True Confessions thread.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 09, 2019, 11:15:14 PM
No pork for you!

Coming from a turkey.

Quote from: whoozit on June 09, 2019, 05:16:31 PM
Typing on BellGab does not do your personal philosophy justice.  You don’t have to appear on camera.  Your voice will add natural emphasis where it can be missed in the written word.

Even so, typing does wonders for me aethetically  .

Quote from: CronkitesGhost on June 10, 2019, 01:42:08 AM
Unbearableness Ranking of Coast Guest Hosts

1. Connie Willis
2. Lisa Garr
3. Jimmy Church

Ian, Knapp and Syrett are better than Noory.

1. Ian
2. Connie lately
3. All the rest

Quote from: K_Dubb on June 09, 2019, 08:54:20 AM
Well as an existential threat to this forum he is exceeded in my memory only by its namesake and its owner so the metaphor still has teeth.

Can't argue with that! Whatever it is!

Quote from: albrecht on June 09, 2019, 06:02:52 PM
Not good. Cruise boat "taking on water" with 80 souls aboard due to these recent fast storms. Baseball sized hail in Bastrop County, 70+ mph winds on Lake Buchanan where the boat is, and tornado warnings all over. Tuned in for the hockey game and instead getting weatherman going crazy with stories and radar analysis of lightning strikes, tornado warnings, rotations, hail, etc. No storms here, yet. They say they are going to put onto a split screen once game actually is live. Crazy.

Split screen is a great idea.  Why can't they do that with sports and jeopardy! (Asking for a friend.)

The other day he said he had an event to do in July, "next year" (!).  I guess he goes by birth years, not calendar years because that would calculate right.

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on June 09, 2019, 03:21:59 PM
Connie Willis told Travis Walton to skip recounting his abduction experience, even though he seemed willing, because he's already told it a "bazillion" times. I can't be the only C2C listener who isn't familiar with his story. I was curious to hear what happened to him!

But Connie had no problem retelling her own Bigfoot/Dogman encounter in the Colorado Rockies, less than a month after her mind-numbing, repetitive, virtual one-woman monologue on the same thing!

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

Quote from: whoozit on June 09, 2019, 05:24:47 PM
I believe it is so he can identify gullible people to continue his serial killings.  Kind of like why this company is giving gift cards.

They do it through a very large (probably well-known) vendor, lol.  White Crow was a good person.  Funny about the hoodies.  That's so nice when people are able to just give, with no strings.  Every once in a while, when the opportunity arises.

Today, a bum asking for smokes outside a store helped me get my car started when the engine got too hot to start.  He helped me first without asking for anything.  I was really happy to see he spent the little donation I gave him, over at a dollar store across the street, as I was leaving.  So, he didn't buy smokes, alcohol or drugs.  He also told me how I can fix the problem myself, so I'll keep trying.  I had used heat-resistant, waterproof A/C tape but he recommended an adhesive.

Quote from: whoozit on June 09, 2019, 05:16:31 PM
Typing on BellGab does not do your personal philosophy justice.  You don’t have to appear on camera.  Your voice will add natural emphasis where it can be missed in the written word.

I have always enjoyed your posts.  Well, I wore my voice out on call centers for about 15 years.  But you make a very good point.  There is no substitute for intonation.  If I ever do You Tubes, I would like them to be musical, or dance.  It'll be a while.  I think you have to be pretty entertaining before You Tube allows revenue, right?  It can't be that much revenue, but do let me know.

Have you played any instruments?

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 09, 2019, 12:41:54 PM
The nightmares I was suffering from are back, and they’re worse than ever.

This too shall pass.  Try sleeping in a different bed or at a different time - seems your characters may be on a set, and on a schedule.  Sometimes a big dinner or too much sugar at night...?  If they might be related to drinking, have a teaspoon of honey or molasses - - that actually helps on-the-spot to reduce sleep issues that may have to do with drinking.

I am a recovering alcoholic with a lot of sober years.  One thing I kind of wish I knew when I was drinking, would have been to have a little sugar or a solid meal whenever I was wracked with morning anxiety.  I never connected my morning angst with alcohol, because I never had any symptoms of a hang over, no headache, no nausea.  But, all those mornings where I rolled up into a ball could have each been cured on the spot with just a little sugar.  Sigh.

Quote from: ItsOver on June 08, 2019, 12:47:29 PM
Ha!  So YouTube is safe, for now?

Let's hear from someone what the practical considerations of actually producing a You Tube video are.  Red eye?  Glare?  Bad hair days?  Glitches?  Stolen valor?

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 09, 2019, 04:18:33 AM
You're vaguely lovable. I'm absolutely detested.

Love the person; hate the sin, lol.

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 09, 2019, 03:41:14 AM
Cutter's tip: remember to cut along the length of vein, not across. Bigger payoff.

Oh puh-lease, no need for expertise here.  Less IS more!