John B. Wells

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I'm starting to wonder if maybe Bell Gab is required reading for Noory, Wells & Co.  Wells at one point last night said words to the effect of, "Some of you accuse me of being doom-and-gloom..."  This is a regular Bell Gab sentiment.  Certainly Noory's mention of "Coast Gab" was revealing...

Before I found Coastgab I always heard Wells talking about his enemies.  It was always so melodramatic I didn't know where the hell he was getting it from.  His email, perhaps, but it makes more sense to me that he was referring to a forum like this one, Coast (Bell) Gab being the most likely candidate.

[onan]

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So the sum total of human knowledge, understanding and insight is invalid if those people are dead? Really?

I guess there is no way to see that was humor. I honestly don't see how you could have missed that.

[Nebraska888]

I'm starting to wonder if maybe Bell Gab is required reading for Noory, Wells & Co.  Wells at one point last night said words to the effect of, "Some of you accuse me of being doom-and-gloom..."  This is a regular Bell Gab sentiment.  Certainly Noory's mention of "Coast Gab" was revealing.  I guess it just strikes my agnostic mind as strange how Lurch preaches doom and gloom and then points us towards the Bible as a way to figure things out; maybe this has been a tried-and-true way to control the argument.

I don't know if what I am about to write has been addressed here on Bell Gab (I'd be a bit surprised if it hasn't)...  I have heard that conspiracy theorists tend to be a bit socially isolated and feel powerless in their lives.  Being "in on the conspiracy" is a way for them to feel empowered.  I think Lurch appeals to such people.  (If we have any youngens here who don't get the Lurch reference, he was the baritone-voiced butler on the old Addam's Family program.)

I HOPE TO GOD that Noory and Wells ARE reading these posts!  Maybe they will take some good advice!

[NoMoreNoory]

I guess there is no way to see that was humor. I honestly don't see how you could have missed that.

Gotcha. Pax.
'I have also the Bible of Hell, which the world shall have, whether it will or no' Wm Blake, deceased

[Black Hole]

Sorry Johnny B.  I do love your voice but the real MOTHERSHIP is about to land and I don't think you'll be on it!

[moto-rama]

I kind of like this guy; So far anyway. 

If you like Jerry "I Hate America" Corsi, then you are sure to love johnb. He is a classic right wing creep show, no talent and wants to push his personal paranoia about everything from the left of Mussolini.

[Nucky Nolan]

At the end of the day it's all entertainment and nothing wrong with leaving it to the listeners to form their own opinions.
Cheers-
COC

That's the bottom line. We're all entitled to our own opinions, so don't get pissed if we disagree with your (in the general sense) views on whatever.

[Crusty Old Crone]

That's the bottom line. We're all entitled to our own opinions, so don't get pissed if we disagree with your (in the general sense) views on whatever.

Not pissed at all.  I've lurked here for a long time and finally thought I'd just jump in and put in my two cents worth.  To hear some here tell it John B. hasn't a single redeeming value, and I do differ with that viewpoint.  As to last night's show: I thought he did pretty well for someone who wasn't informed that his guest wouldn't be on until it was time to do the show. Anyways, I do understand because George Noory is the one I just can't stand. and at this point there's probably nothing he could do to change my opinion.   My mother, on the other hand, is quite fond of him.

[Nucky Nolan]

Not pissed at all.  I've lurked here for a long time and finally thought I'd just jump in and put in my two cents worth.  To hear some here tell it John B. hasn't a single redeeming value, and I do differ with that viewpoint.  As to last night's show: I thought he did pretty well for someone who wasn't informed that his guest wouldn't be on until it was time to do the show. Anyways, I do understand because George Noory is the one I just can't stand. and at this point there's probably nothing he could do to change my opinion.   My mother, on the other hand, is quite fond of him.

Oh, sorry! I didn't direct the "pissed" comment at you. In fact, I agreed and concurred with your very wise words to the wise in search of wisdom from the wise. In short, to each their own.  

[Étouffée]

There was this interview with a writer from the Weekly World News, you know, the paper that reported "Alien endorses Clinton", and "Crystal Coffins found with Aliens in Yugoslavia".  The paper had about 8 employees, and was located in Boca Raton, Florida ('natch).  The writer was asked how he could report such idiotic stories, and he said:

"I never let a question get in the way of a good story".

That's the art of Art.

[NoMoreNoory]

If Wells acknowledges The Snooron to be the Captain of the Mothership that is Coast To Coast AM, and Dave acknowledged Art to be the 'father' the other night, how should Wells acknowledge Art? Admiral Of The Fleet? Master Of The Universe?

[popple]

It's odd that the caller asked him if he heard what Jorch said about art's new show and then he didn't really acknowledge it. Just moved on. If Jorchie was talking about Art shouldn't JBW figure out he can say something about Art? Or was everyone under a gag order and only Jorch had it lifted?

[RationalRudy]

Problems with John B:

1. Can we get any more commercial than last night?
Every 10 minutes was a plug for radiation materials -- would your employer or would you allow your employees to work at another job while at your 1st job? Call clients for your part-time job while that report needs finished? Nope.

If I were the manager of Coast Corporate ("mothership" ?? What idiot school boy fantasy name is that?) I would give JB Wellsy two options: Stop the plugs or give back 10% of revenyue to Coast as payment for using valuable air time for other work.

2. Laadddieees... Call me.
Come one man. Srsly? Do you and Jorge run side-bets on who can collect pics from trailer mamas who snap shots while hubby snores? It's total frat move with "did you see that car I was photo'd with? My friend said "any price you want"

3. We are doomed.
Come one man. You believe that powerful individuals with strong egos will all of a sudden subsume their ego, pride of intellect and say "yep, your plan is better than mine" .. HELLL NO!!!! These people have HUGE EGOs and want EVERYTHING in their life to be done as THEY WANT IT down to their coffee temp in the AM.

4. WE ARE REALLY DOOMMMED.
We heard you the first time.

5. Financial collapse any day.
Really John? And your credibility for this view is...? Yeah, arm chair financier. More dangerous than stupid and I had to really think about the ranking of stupid/dangerous. Sure, economic growth is limited but collapse will harm the elites as much as the poor. Think about it: Do they want to run a bankrupt society or a society that is modestly progressing but under total control. Yes, better to rule a mediocre society than a collapsed society that completely broke down. No one understands that angle.

The fear porn on C2C is just laughable at this point. Can't wait for Art's return.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

I can't speak for Scully, but I have made similar statements myself not directed at anyone in particular.  I think Wells can sound good in small doses and one reason people may defend him is that they haven't listened that much.  But, taking his show last night and combining it with his regular schtick, it's at least my opinion that he is frequently full of gas.  The multiple long winded diatribes about his perceived corruption in the government had some salient points but I think were way beyond the scope of both his personal knowledge and his position as a facilitator of ideas from guests and callers.

I think before the left-leaning among us post sanctimonious post after sanctimonious post about Johnny B and his "right-wing" views, they might  contemplate that one of the early incarnations of Art Bell's program was a political talk show. He claimed to be a libertarian and proceeded to bash Bill Clinton and his ilk in a way that would make Sean Hannity proud. I also remember round about Y2K when Art had program after program about impending disaster in which he hawked a cornucopia of survival gear. And if that isn't enough to get your panties in a wad, I remember multiple programs in which Ed Dames was the guest, where Art would sell cassette recordings of the entire broadcast for a --gasp-- profit.

[Black Hole]

There was this interview with a writer from the Weekly World News, you know, the paper that reported "Alien endorses Clinton", and "Crystal Coffins found with Aliens in Yugoslavia".  The paper had about 8 employees, and was located in Boca Raton, Florida ('natch).  The writer was asked how he could report such idiotic stories, and he said:

"I never let a question get in the way of a good story".

That's the art of Art.

:
“I certainly believe that UFOs are really on occasion extraterrestrial craft visiting earth, so to me that means that our government, our military at some level they know they're here, and they're either frightened of them because they don't know, or they wish to figure a way to defend against them.”
Art Bell

[Black Hole]

I think before the left-leaning among us post sanctimonious post after sanctimonious post about Johnny B and his "right-wing" views, they might  contemplate that one of the early incarnations of Art Bell's program was a political talk show. He claimed to be a libertarian and proceeded to bash Bill Clinton and his ilk in a way that would make Sean Hannity proud. I also remember round about Y2K when Art had program after program about impending disaster in which he hawked a cornucopia of survival gear. And if that isn't enough to get your panties in a wad, I remember multiple programs in which Ed Dames was the guest, where Art would hawk cassette recordings of the entire broadcast for a low, low price.

Ya know I can almost remember a point where I was questioning what Art was doing.  I think I thought things were declining, ie., guests, his remarks, open line jargon.  Any way that is an interesting post there.  Lets hope a long hiatus has made a great difference in case he had begun to deflect a bit.  Maybe he was under great pressure.

[Nucky Nolan]

I think before the left-leaning among us post sanctimonious post after sanctimonious post about Johnny B and his "right-wing" views, they might  contemplate that one of the early incarnations of Art Bell's program was a political talk show. He claimed to be a libertarian and proceeded to bash Bill Clinton and his ilk in a way that would make Sean Hannity proud. I also remember round about Y2K when Art had program after program about impending disaster in which he hawked a cornucopia of survival gear. And if that isn't enough to get your panties in a wad, I remember multiple programs in which Ed Dames was the guest, where Art would sell cassette recordings of the entire broadcast for a --gasp-- profit.

Thanks for keeping it real. You might not be popular for it, though. You came awfully close to committing "blasphemy" and "heresy" in the minds of a few listeners with bad memories. For that, you might get put on a few ignore lists.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I think before the left-leaning among us post sanctimonious post after sanctimonious post about Johnny B and his "right-wing" views, they might  contemplate that one of the early incarnations of Art Bell's program was a political talk show. He claimed to be a libertarian and proceeded to bash Bill Clinton and his ilk in a way that would make Sean Hannity proud. I also remember round about Y2K when Art had program after program about impending disaster in which he hawked a cornucopia of survival gear. And if that isn't enough to get your panties in a wad, I remember multiple programs in which Ed Dames was the guest, where Art would sell cassette recordings of the entire broadcast for a --gasp-- profit.

Personally I wasn't making any statements about Well's views being left or right.  As the man himself says, it's not about left or right.  It's about what's right.

edit:  I have no dispute with what you said about Art however.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

Ya know I can almost remember a point where I was questioning what Art was doing.  I think I thought things were declining, ie., guests, his remarks, open line jargon.  Any way that is an interesting post there.  Lets hope a long hiatus has made a great difference in case he had begun to deflect a bit.  Maybe he was under great pressure.

My post was not meant to attack anyone's political views, but rather to encourage the participants in this thread not to engage in revisionist history. I don't know if Art's libertarianism was just an act for the program, but I do wonder since he's expressed his support for President Obama in recent years. He has stated on Facebook that Dark Matter "will not be a political show." I, for one, would welcome a little classic Art Bell escapism. I wonder whatever happened to Mel Waters...

[TheGrimCreeper1]

Thanks for keeping it real. You might not be popular for it, though. You came awfully close to committing "blasphemy" and "heresy" in the minds of a few listeners with bad memories. For that, you might get put on a few ignore lists.

Let the chips fall where they may. I remember the real Art Bell -- warts and all. The main difference between an Art Bell and a John B. Wells is talent. Art honed his skills from a very early age whereas Johnny B. is a relative newcomer to radio. Wells seems lazy and unprepared while Bell was usually well informed and exhaustively prepared for his programs.

[Nucky Nolan]

Let the chips fall where they may. I remember the real Art Bell -- warts and all. The main difference between an Art Bell and a John B. Wells is talent. Art honed his skills from a very early age whereas Johnny B. is a relative newcomer to radio.

Art Bell's definitely in a league of his own, but political consistency is not his forte. "Obama" and "libertarian" should not be in the same paragraph. That said, it's good to hear that he'll eschew political topics. I understand how John Wells could irk some liberal listeners with his partisan monologues.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

The point isn't whether Wells is right or not.  The point is his dialogue.. er monologue parading as dialogue.. is incoherent and unfounded.

[Nucky Nolan]

The point isn't whether Wells is right or not.  The point is his dialogue.. er monologue parading as dialogue.. is incoherent and unfounded.

He makes great points at times. Still, he should be less political for the sake of people who don't share his beliefs.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

The point isn't whether Wells is right or not.  The point is his dialogue.. er monologue parading as dialogue.. is incoherent and unfounded.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Sorry, I guess I'm becoming a little incoherent at this point 

[TheGrimCreeper1]

He makes great points at times. Still, he should be less political for the sake of people who don't share his beliefs.

I think it all boils down to the fact that Wells can't orate in a manner that appeals to a wide audience. The great radio hosts can take a mundane or controversial topic and keep their audience completely captivated while they expound on it. I simply don't see that quality within John B. Wells.

[UnscreenedCaller]

I'm listening tonight because it's a UFO show. I mean, what the heck, it's UFOs - conspiracy is a given so no problems there. There's a good chance he'll manage to bring up residual radiation from UFOs like the Edgewater one, hence a tie-in to his radiation detection sideline. And, skipping over open lines probably saved me a lot of gratuitous conspiracy migraine inducing blather.


Wells apparently got the memo to mention Art because he just did, twice, once to talk about the history of UFO investigation on C2C from Art to Snoory and Knapp and then a quick mention about how Art lived by Area 51.

Ding!Ding!Ding! Do I know Johnny B or what? Not only did his guest have an implant in his neck emitting radiation, but here we go with Fukishima and a download for a user's manual for a geiger counter.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE UNLESS WE GO TO MAZUR INSTRUMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

What a tool.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Wells just read a letter perfectly describing the Perseid meteor shower that is going on right now, well publicized in the news, except the person who mailed it didn't know what the fast moving lights were and was implying they were UFOs of some sort.  Wells didn't offer the explanation of the meteor shower.

[UnscreenedCaller]

Ha ha, I think he's having the guy call in the show. Maybe he can sell him a geiger counter.

[Étouffée]

John Barleycorn!  I love that song!  This Wilbur Allen guy is kind of bulletproof...he's energetic and eccentric and talks fast and he's talking about voices in his head and Area 51.  I know I'm in a scant minority here,  but there are times I really do enjoy John.B.  O.K.,  it is mostly because of his voice and the music... But you are listening, aren't you?