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Ah well I'm labeled a troll here now, the love is gone, gotta find some chocolate! 

Quote from:  Vendetta
Pogo:
The following is not meant to imply anything derogatory, nor pugnacious on my part, but simply an observation from my perspective.
By way of your verbage and sentence structure, you sound  young, and without much responsibility (witness your incessant need to research past posts as an attempt to use them argumentatively to make a point). Not meant to be a slam, as little responsibility comes with being young. So if you are indeed young, then your behavior comes with the territory.
On the other hand, I have a house payment and other bills to pay, clothes and dishes to wash, 2.25 acres of grass to cut at least weekly (3 hours per mow), and all the other things that is a part of being a mature grownup.
I am not an "old fogey" - I feel lucky enough to have grown up during a a time when personal morals where taken more seriously, when unmarried pregnancy was a stigma (I work in a profession where I work with neonates, and the overwhelming majority are unmarried women - race is not a factor where I live)... to remember and appreciate folk music/rock/classical/pop-rock/jazz - whatever.
Additionally, at a quite young age, I suffered my first heart attack (RCA blockage - 95% occluded). 1.5 years later, I had my second heart attack - 99% occlusion in my LDA - aka the "widow maker." If it closes off, you die. Simple as that. I drove myself to the hospital (clearly a stupid idea as I found myself stuck in traffic in the parking garage) Clearly in denial, (most medical professionals do this - that being, in denial) I was obviously saved, despite being within minutes of death. Just last week, I recognized similar previous symptoms, but treated myself by chewing uncoated aspirin, taking a Plavix, and hydrating (I had spent 5 hours working in 92 degree heat - not smart, as I learned). I recovered with rest, but was very near calling 911 had the symptoms persisted.
Now, why do I even bother telling anyone these things? It's because of an overall life-perspective. I live daily with the knowledge, that it's possible for my "ticker" to fuck-up. I have almost no control. But such experiences do put life into perspective.
So you wonder, why I don't correct misinformation propagated against me by others on another forum. The facts are, when you've experienced what I have, such meaningless "verbal combativeness" doesn't take as much importance in one's life as it might if one were younger, or other wise more inclined.
When I feel slighted, I can certainly respond vociferously, and have posted as such. But generally, I'm a very even-tempered, nonchalant kinda guy. However, attack my friends, or my family, or, under certain circumstances, myself, I can be very protective; sometimes especially of my reputation, which, in reality, is about all we have in a cyber-environment (not so dissimilar from old CB radio "hangouts of years gone by" (perhaps another post about that analogy).
Why do I bother mentioning these personal facts about my life? So as to present a personae (believe it or not) of not taking "internet/web" threats seriously, and all that goes on with that style of internet communication. I am by no means perfect, and have on occasion, had no hesitation in "dressing down" certain mods at GLP, and maybe others that I don't remember. I try not to let my emotions get in the way of reason - as through my life-experiences, and personal closeness with death, being only minutes away from the ultimate trip, that, in the grand scheme, what others say to or about you don't mean much, ESPECIALLY on the "anonymous" internet. I would take such talk much more seriously if it were coming from a friend or relative, but an anonymous posting on a forum? I try to put these things in perspective.
If attacked, I may or may not respond - subtly (my preference, as it often goes flying over their heads), or more directly, through coarse language (my least appealing attribute. I still don't swear in front of my parents). Or not respond at all, as it often becomes pointless.
So, hopefully, in conclusion, I don't often find it necessary to defend myself - it's often pointless and a waste of emotional energy. It comes with some modicum of maturity.
Likely, someday soon, I'll lexiconically (did I just make up a word?) illustrate a timeline, as to what happened at GLP. I'm certain it won't be satisfactory to the hardliners who remain at GLP (but come here as "guests"). Not my problem. The timeline and accompanying explanations with be both brief and unsatisfactory for some. Again, not my problem.
So while I personally view your response(s) as a rejection of my proposed "equation" (as so eloquently explained in Gumby's previous recent post to you or others), I would Like to think that the previous chapter of TOGNST and its progeny, are simple moot and dead. We have a new home, and what a home it is!!!
So, Pogo (or others), I think my equation as being a fair settlement of any animosity, or questions for that matter - if one can "leave well enough alone,"
we can all move forward to the ultimate goal of exposing the incredible suckage known as George Noory, and extend an invitation to a competent host. I'd suggest that conjecture cannot, and must not be, ever construed as fact, so, therefore, concentrate your efforts on enjoying this forum, and give up on what you think "might be." You'll be wasting your time.
For those of you who have read this and thinks it's a pile of shit, remember, I forearned you in the very first sentence! For those who suffered through my verbosity, I've hopefully espoused some semblance of reasonableness and logic.
Quite hopefully, I'll do my best to at least not attempt so lengthy a post of explanation, though I also don't apologize for it. I wouldn't have written it if I didn't think it necessary.
With that, I'll bid you all good morning, and wonderful upcoming day.

  Thank you for the response, it could simply be that I'm as brief as you are long-spun on occassion. 
There was no need for me to research past posts since I remembered yours here saying you would 'put the word out' there, made on the same weekend as the flareup there and the invitation for me to come here.  BTW you might not be the best one to put the word out there, an invitation seen as being from you might have the opposite effect with some.
Yes I agree that you would dress down mods in the past, I remember such posts, and as you say you may have done the same with others there.    Not all of the posts attributed to you were done by imposters then.
I also agree with you when you say that conjecture is not fact.  I gave my past impressions to illustrate how many viewed the situation and were left in the dark without a few words from you, and hoped you would clear the air after many months of silence on the subject.
I have simply been looking for that timeline you referred to, your own personal experience, whatever that might be.  Good or bad I didn't care, I just wanted to know, and didn't see why you couldn't provide it.  Reading your answer I understand if you can't do so, at least for now, no questions. 
Curiosity is what drives me at this point, the old thread is gone, I'm over that, just wondered what happened and hoped to hear your experience, perhaps that will happen someday then.
i'm certainly not Sir William Wadd, i didn't see my post as accusation or torture but perhaps it sounded that way, I just wanted to hear what you went through. 
Yes I understand about the inside job, some fake posts, ads showing up over there.  There were three or more upheavals over a very long period of time, and any one of a number of things could have happened along the way and I wanted to hear from you in your own words.

Quote from: Gumby, Dammit on June 30, 2009, 01:21:41 AM
Pogo. It was an inside job my friend. You should do more than "scan" what I wrote and the links I posted before continuing with these insinuations. That shit doesn't belong on this thread.

i didn't see it as my insinuating anything, I was simply explaining what I had thought took place back then, and asking V to say in his own words what actually happened.  I listed a few possibilities, the first of which was "I did nothing" to deserve this bad rap.

If it's over the line the mod can delete it.

Finally out for the night ....

Quote from: V for Vendetta on June 29, 2009, 11:27:44 PM
.... I have not posted at GLP in quite some time, .....

Perhaps you haven't posted there in quite some time, but a week or so ago you mentioned here that you were going to post links at 'the other place' to invite folks over here .......

Quote from: V for Vendetta
Well, lookie here... a real forum that's free (liberty and monetarily), without censorship (SFAIK), and lots of names I recognize.
Getting out the word, though banned, isn't that difficult - it's just a matter of how long the post lasts (at the "other place"). I'll make a few posts there at various times to get the word out

You didn't follow through then and invite them here?  You did seem to show up there more than once and tell them they're welcome here (which in itself is a nice thing to do).  That seemed to inflame some of the members there.

I'm out for the night, tomorrow then ...

Quote from: V for Vendetta on June 29, 2009, 12:44:11 AM
No, I didn't and don't appreciate being falsely accused, so if your posts there were accusatory, then yes, I take exception to them. This is my only concern/problem I have with anyone (except the mods at GLP - that's something I cannot forgive). NOLADOG remains vociferous, as does Spikegirl and Starbrite (though more subtly in her case), and a few ACs (there are only about 5 people who post there any longer). I don't go there often, as there's virtually no reason to, but I sometimes chuckle when I see posts that are attributed to me, when I haven't posted in quite some time. I've even noticed posts that where it's clear someone was impersonating me. I couldn't even tell you the last time I posted.

There are a number of ways to approach this, such as communicating privately via PM... though I like THIS idea best: you agree to not post inflammatory or accusatory posts regarding me, and I'll consider the matter dropped. Ended. Caput. Done. Finished.

In fact, if anyone, who previously maligned me, were to come here, I would be at the very least cordial IF they 1) stopped accusations 2) an apology for jumping to conclusions would be nice, but not necessary or 3) at least publicly acknowledge giving me the benefit of the doubt. If any, or all of those things occured, all animosity on my part would cease.

So I view the situation as being solved if the following equation is true: no accusations=no problem. Seems simple - and while magnanimous sounds a bit overstated, fair sounds... well... fair.

Good post, and now we have a forum where we can speak freely.  I've scanned the stuff Gumby referenced, and will look through it more later later, at the same time you can also say 'here's what happened .... '

At times I've said on TOGNST that you seemed to deliberately pump views to take the thread down, at other times when you seemed to show up I posted it as a question.  The frequent red V posts about cranking various thread views showed up until the day the forum finally was deleted. 

You've said here you're able to post on GLP easily.  If you knew false posts were being made in your name you could certainly go there and refute them, over and over if necessary, posts often stay up for hours before being deleted, I followed the thread nightly, did you happen to make any such posts, did I miss your posts on this?

The old thread is gone, at this point I'm more interested in what happened.

This forum is a breath of fresh air, now you can say what really took place, and clear everything up, such as
I did absolutely nothing....
or
I was dicking around with the views for some harmless fun, and inadvertently gave an enemy of the thread the idea to continue it and bring the thread down...
or
They accused me falsely of boosting thread views so I decided WTH I'll start doing it and really give them headaches..

... or whatever.   

You can say in plain English here what actually happened.

Quote from: Gumby, Dammit on June 29, 2009, 11:27:07 PM
Pogo...if you need help with an avatar look me up...personally I think that you should grab that Strother Martin picture from a few posts above. It's from the movie "Cool Hand Luke" and would make ONE HELL of an avatar for you.

I just saved that pic to disk so can set it in the profile later.  If I want to go with blue dots I have other shades to put in too!

Quote from: MABUSE on June 29, 2009, 11:33:03 PM

No, really....
Have a gorilla!

**M**

Soothing, thanks....

Noory's slicin' and dicin' the news report, did he cough or just choke in the middle of saying sar-coph-agus?

I'll have a Gorilla Gumby, but that's the ugliest one I've ever seen!

Quote from: Itty Bit on June 29, 2009, 11:14:18 PM
Some people need visuals, some people do well with the written word.  Blue dots, kind of reminds me of the blue dot over the face of the girl the Kennedy kin was supposed to have done naughty things to down on the beach, remember that, good golly, it was a lot of years ago. . .anyhow. . .

It's nice to have you here, pogo.

Hey thanks for the nice welcome itty Bit, it warmed me up!  The blue dot girl, I'd forgotten all about that.

Quote from: pogo on June 26, 2009, 08:34:03 PM
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(EDIT: picture an astonished smilie here, can't get it to post)

Quote from: V for Vendetta
Perhaps your inability to figure out how to add an avatar, or post a picture on a forum, speaks greater volumes than I could ever conjecture.

Folks, my newer system went down a few weeks ago, I'm now using a slow 11 yr old computer that won't work with the smilies or text buttons on the menu bar above the reply window, won't work the drop-down menus, etc., and loading pages is very slow.
I may not be able to give fast replies here.

  Hope that explains my "(insert astonished smilie here)" reference, thought it was kind of cute myself. 
In addition I didn't want an avatar for now so I replaced the silhouette with a small blue dot to blend in with the background.

Quote from:  AC 708686
And Pogo, now that you've become a member at "The Refugee Camp," for all your cowardly bravdo posted here, why don't you come on over to the RC and post the same things. We'll let the chips fall where they may.

V for Vendetta, this poster seemed to take my posts about you personally and invited me here to RC to discuss this and 'let the chips fall where they may', was that you then, or someone else?

My response to the above was that I had already been working my way over here, adjusting myself to the refugee camp to hang out, enjoy the board, and hopefully chat with you as well.
By the way my post that brought AC 708686's above answer was posed as a question, not an accusation.

'supial's on!  It looks like there's what, 100 or so new posts here in the last day, fast moving board!

Quote from: PW on June 28, 2009, 06:18:35 PM

Hot babe for the 'ribbeting' host of Coast

Quote from: NOLADOGNOLADOG
Tis is a STAND against the "Other" Thread. Keep the Faith and NEVER Forget...GEORGE NOORY SUCKS!!"

Quote from: V for Vendetta
.... Somehow, subtly debasing this thread, and thereby, the members who have left GLP and set up camp here, is again, perhaps noteworthy of one's pathology and loneliness.......

I don't agree with NOLA on that and have said so there,  I visit and enjoy posting at both threads, as some others who have been banned there do as ACs.
I certainly don't want to debase this thread.

Quote from: V for Vendetta
... All three people left posting there, plus Pogo's postings there, bring the total to 3.5 posters. ...

Oh dear, now I'm only 1/2 a person!  Well OK ha I'm in a good mood tonite, and if I am 1/2 a poster then that should be all the easier a job for V when we get a chance to talk!

Just got in, haven't caught up on the last several pages, I'll be back tomorrow night and hopefully we can continue this sir!

Quote from: V for Vendetta
... Perhaps your inability to figure out how to add an avatar, or post a picture on a forum, ..

V and others, to explain about the AV, I wanted to get rid of that silhouette and decided against an avatar for now, so I made the smallest blue dot I could to take its place and blend in with the board.   I'm happy with it for now and hope that makes sense to you all, hope the lack of an AV doesn't bother people here. 

I don't want to disrupt the board and don't think I'm doing so, this shouldn't take more than an hour or two. 

However, if you  folks don't want me here after V and I discuss this I'll respect the board members' wishes and not post here again. 
Damn funny reading though, I've never laughed so hard over a thread.

So V for Vendetta, you weren't completely thrilled with my posts about you on the other Noory GLP board?
(EDIT: picture an astonished smilie here, can't get it to post)

Quote from: V for Vendetta on June 28, 2009, 01:31:45 AM
I ordinarily don't respond to trolls, but I'm hungry, so I'll take a nibble at the bait... whatever would possess you to come here and ask such a question? Perhaps your inability to figure out how to add an avatar, or post a picture on a forum, speaks greater volumes than I could ever conjecture.

By all means, thrill us with more of your brilliant analysis. ....

Hello V, thank you for responding.  I joined the board to hang out, enjoy the board, and straighten out any misunderstanding between the two of us.

You objected to my posts on GLP and invited me to come here and discuss my posts about you, saying we would "let the chips fall where they may", I brought this up as you yourself suggested, not as a troll, just looking for straightforward discussion that you said you wanted to have.  If I'm incorrect in what I posted there, I'll find out in the course of our conversation.

I addressed you here so we could have that conversation you invited me to.  I'd like to do that in a direct open manner.  Seems like a good way to take care of it, do you disagree?

The conversation may get lively but we don't need to insult each other. 

Knapp is scheduled on C2C tonite and I'd like to listen without carrying on another conversation with someone, with a good host on why don't we continue this tomorrow when Noory is on?

Quote from: EvB on June 27, 2009, 08:27:39 PM
He reminds me of the worst of out-sourced tech support - where the person you get on the other end of the hone just keeps on reading from those 3 x 5 cards NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.

Premrad might want to run with that idea, if they went with a call center service in Delhi at least we'd have a host that can speak English.

Quote from: Gumby, Dammit on June 27, 2009, 08:13:31 PM
Yes. Yes. Yes.

A week ago last Friday night I was driving home and heard him try that 'you just missed out on winning a prize' routine. OMG he is such a piece of shit. 'You just won six-thousand books (it was either three or six thousand I don't recall which)...but you waited too long to claim your prize so I can't give 'em too ya. Ha ha ha. I'm sooory.'

What was sick and weird about it was the caller really didn't seem to know or care WTF George was even talking about and continued to just try and tell his story. WTF kind of radio is this? It's beyond suckage and beyond feeling embarrassed for the butthole as he fumbles and faux pas through the night...night after night.

It's like tripping on acid tainted with strychnine. Reality grinds it's gears while you grind your teeth. Coast has reached the tripping point

But I can't help but wonder when the tipping point will come? I wonder when it will just become too stupid and embarrassing or an exercise in diminishing returns to be on the show or even associated with it?

Steven Basset.   To quote Dixie B: "GAH!"

Gumby I heard that call, Noory sounded like a 6 yr old teasing his little brother who he'd like to punch in the stomach, but mom and the audience is listening, so he can't get away with it and pulls this crap. 

So if he perceives a caller as being somehow weaker than himself he goes after them with this drek?  Sure seems that way, with an old lady, or a stutterer,  .... 

Quote from: PW on June 27, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
Don't you hate it when he pretends to be a caller on hold, and talks to the current caller?  Like this is in any way funny.  ...

The guy's a real laff riot, the real George shines through.

Quote from: PW on June 27, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
... The other weirdness is asking people their age out of the blue.  I've heard guests take his head off for that, but to no avail.  He said to one guest:  "You're really getting up there...how old are you anyway?"  Numbnuts.

I think he's bored to hell with the show and needs to bond with the callers.  Truck driver?  Where ya driving, what road are you on, how much is gas there?

Quote from: Smoky on June 27, 2009, 06:28:33 PM
That is a really good point. I agree I have never noticed noory exhibiting a sense of humor on any level. He has his fake feigned laugh...that makes my skin crawl. That is why this fraud of a man is so pathetic. He can't even laugh at himself.

Noory's idea of jokes are at the expense of his callers, making fun of a stammerer, or 'you just missed out on winning a prize'.
Sometimes he'll fumble through a bad read of a tired old joke.
Could be that the grisly child tragedies tickle his funny bone.
One good joke was his PRG award from Stephen Bassett.

Two of Art's calls last night sounded very phony and affected, figured they were both pranks.  One had been trying to send Commander(?) Noory a ufo for years but George wouldn't talk to him. Strange low voice, couldn't make out half of what he said, damn I didn't have the recorder set up. 
The guy right after him sounded like a gay Emo Philips, his relative had 3 cars disappear in his rear view mirror.

Quote from: V for Vendetta on June 26, 2009, 02:01:28 AM
This guest is making my fucking ears bleed -.....

So V for Vendetta, you weren't completely thrilled with my posts about you on the other Noory GLP board?
(EDIT: picture an astonished smilie here, can't get it to post)

Quote from: MABUSE on June 25, 2009, 09:06:17 AM
Klatu! Barratus! Nikkto!


And your second?

The fellow never gave specifics about what he called Noory's "splendid and excellent" performance, just let loose with a lot of distraction to try and derail the thread, so I couldn't take him seriously.  More proof from one of Noory's fans that George does indeed ..... suck.

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PW: The more I listen to George, the more I am convinced that he does not believe in anything he talks about. ....

it seems as if he sat down years ago and spent 20 minutes thinking up his routine, "let's see, angels, evil, 2012, pyramids, coincidences, ..." and never looked back
God only knows what the rest of his time is spent doing.

Boss Hawg
One other suggestion Pogo (et al.) is under modify profile:
Look and Layout > Messages to display per page: 50
This configuration allows you to display more posts per page (which seems similar to our old home at GLP).

thanks Boss Hawg, good tip,  makes it a lot simpler

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Michael Vandeven
i changed it.  what do u guys think about it now?

Hey I noticed it today, very nice, thanks

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These people are so talented.  I don't know how to do any of this stuff. 

Great pics, never laughed this much over a thread, too fast and funny for me, loads of laughs on hte last 60 pgs. 

Quote from: pogo on June 24, 2009, 08:18:59 PM
Trying to load Avatar
Profile>Modify Profile>Forum Profile>Upload Pic>

Thanks for the help, I think I've got the av I wanted at the moment, ha!  ...

Perfect! 

Trying to load Avatar
Profile>Modify Profile>Forum Profile>Upload Pic>

Thanks for the help, I think I've got the av I wanted at the moment, ha!   I'll see if this works,   then out tonite and back tomorrow.  I'm nearly caught up with the thread.

Can ACs post here?  Wouldn't seem so
Let's just say I come in here and yell





HOLLLEEEEERRRRRR




What's your first split second reaction? 
Hey i like the idea of that practical joke, so shoot me!

Quote from: Pirate King Atomsk on June 24, 2009, 03:06:50 PM
Yeah I checked the URL, tried 'previous/next", ect...unless there's a way of setting it to display differently in your profile options, I'm not sure how to do it either. I'd look deeper into it, but I'm about to go get ultra drunk to celebrate the two weeks of studying which got me into the Fall semester to begin pursuing my A.A.S. today. (Self-congratulatory "WOOT!")

Perhaps Michael or Max will know something to help you when they check the thread. I do admit, if a thread has a lot of posts - that can be slightly annoying.

Hi Pirateatomsk I figured that might be a tricky one for the mods or something.

No matter how hard you hit the juice today/tonite you'll probably never match the experience of being "Noorified", or whatever George is goin through every night 'n day.

Quote from: pogo on June 24, 2009, 03:05:38 PM
"Am just catching up here to see if there's any tidbits in past pages that I need to respond to." ....

Ah, some get serious while talking about boobs on page '20 something'. 

All I've gotta say about that is ..... The Village Fugs! (insert VF pic here).

Hope all here are well, I'll be in and out today, I can hold my own ......

"Am just catching up here to see if there's any tidbits in past pages that I need to respond to."

.... and while I happen to be doing that I have to say there's some damn funny 'laugh out loud' stuff there, not just lol funny!

fI'll be in and out throughout the day!