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George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

Started by MV/Liberace!, April 06, 2008, 01:23:02 AM

Can Noory pronounce anything correctly?

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Quote from: 11angeleyes11 on April 09, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
All right I am jumping into the pit.  I'll give George the benefit as being a responsible journalist.  It is only by understanding and discussing behaviors that we can target and modifiy those behaviors.  I could see this being discussed but only in an even-handed professional round-table way.
I know that you are extending George a great deal more credit than he deserves in order to make an argument on his behalf.  For that, I give you credit.  However, there is nothing left for a responsible journalist to do than to help warn parents (without alarming them) as to how pedophiles work.  I cannot see what purpose broadcasting such a discussion would serve at this point. You and I (and the rest of the forum) discussing these behaviors will do nothing to target nor modify the behavior of a pedophile.  Discussions, conversations, and meetings among those in professions who have some influence or can look for signs of abuse (say teachers or sports coaches, for example) are necessary.  The information exchanged needs to be tailored to the group.  A neuropsychologist needs a different discussion than a hockey coach.  Coast is not a good medium for what I agree is a much needed discussion (and I question the need to insert a potentially manipulative man who has been convicted for his preferences in with scientists and those giving actual information on how these individuals operate and what makes them tick.)  In my mind, there is no need to take down the guys phone number for future contact and nothing that he could add to a round table discussion.

On the same topic, a local station did a series of interviews on the news with a well known (had been in the news several times over the years) local pedophile who claimed to be reformed.  The interview tried to tug at the emotion that he had done his time, served his sentence and that it was almost unfair that society continued to stigmatize him.  As I recall, they did a short segment with his son who refused to have anything to do with his father and claimed that he was a dangerous, manipulative man.  Turned out the son was right when the guy was arrested a couple of months later being charged with kiddie porn again.

Quote from: Oliver Kloseoff on April 10, 2012, 02:53:40 AM
  Is it safe to try this?  Please let me know if anyone has tried this before.
My biggest concern would be with the power of that which possesses George.  If you listen to the father Malachai Martin interviews with Art, you will quickly recognize that such a powerful demon is not something to flirt with and that it will need a place to go.  The battle which you propose could last for days, leave you drained and not break any influence over the host of coast.  Sadly, Father Martin has left us and there just are not enough people with the strength, training and skill to withstand an exorcism anymore.

Oversoul

Quote from: Oliver Kloseoff on April 10, 2012, 02:53:40 AM
This should anger all of you but here goes. Has any of you thought of performing an exorcism on george?  I mean laying your hands on the radio and imploring the almighty to "drive out and vanquish teh stupid in Noory"!   Is it safe to try this?  Please let me know if anyone has tried this before.

I wouldn't want to be part of any such exorcism on Noory.  I don't want any of his demons jumping into me.  Pretty dangerous, if you ask me.  Besides, what if his demons feel very at home in him?  How're you gonna make them leave?  I doubt if the power of Christ can compel those demons out of him.   ;D  ;D  ;D

You are probably right. what if if something went wrong and you failed to disconnect the radio before teh stupid started backfeeding into you. People would say "sumpin's wrong wif him, he not so smart now".  It would be like a field effect.

Lovely Bones

George has neither the intelligence nor the background to host a round table discussion of this topic.  That was clear in his brief interchange with "Jay," the pedophile who called in the other night.  As someone above mentioned, listeners could hear Snoory's intrigue grow once he realized he had a real, live pedophile on the line.  That alone indicates he doesn't have the clinical detachment to host such a discussion.

I've been sitting here reading this thread deep in Sandusky country, where discussion of pedophilia has arrived now for the last five months just about daily in our morning paper.  I do think it's a topic that deserves discussion--in the right hands--as a way to educate parents/teachers/coaches/nurses/etc. about grooming behavior and about the ways pedophiles will manipulate their way into the lives of their victims. 

But it has to be moderated by someone with some kind of professional, clinical expertise, and whatever panel is put together can't include some self-volunteered pedophile who simply wants air time. 

One of the best discussions in the wake of the post-Sandusky revelations I heard was moderated by Dr. Drew (Pinsky) and included both professionals from the field probably the only "reformed" pedophile I would ever listen to on a panel, a man named Jake Goldenflame.  I'd heard him before--he's served time in prison but has lived about 20 years post-prison without re-offending after intensive therapy.  For the record, I think Goldenflame is the rare exception to the rule, the rule being that it is extremely difficult to rehabilitate child molesters.  Even Goldenflame admits he is like an alcoholic and must live day-to-day reaffirming his commitment not to offend and reaffirming his commitment to removing himself from any situation (like riding a bus and seeing an attractive youngster) which might trigger the desire to reoffend. 

Pinsky and the others on his panel were effectively able to handle having that particular pedophile as a member of a round table discussion.  The idea of George Noory trying to moderate a discussion panel which includes "Jay" sends shivers down my spine. 

Sardondi

Quote from: Oliver Kloseoff on April 10, 2012, 02:53:40 AM
...Has any of you thought of performing an exorcism on george?  I mean laying your hands on the radio and imploring the almighty to "drive out and vanquish teh stupid in Noory"!   Is it safe to try this?  Please let me know if anyone has tried this before.

A real exorcism? Where an appropriate priest, like a radio engineer, commands demons to be cast out? If so, I propose these demons be exorcised:

Moronicus Maximus, demon of extreme stupidity;
Assholiarum, demon of arrogant jerks;
Craniopenisi Veritas, demon of true dickheads

And I suggest prayers during the exorcism for the intervention of a little-known saint, St. Ricardo de Minimis, the patron saint of the poorly hung and Lebanese radio talk show hosts.



(...and my apologies to any Roman Catholics who feel this may be an example of Going Too Far.)

Frys Girl

Let's be honest. George is a grandfather. Shouldn't he have stuck up for kids instead of offering to bring a pedo on the air right away? Disgusting.


We need to start a petition.

Sardondi

Quote from: Lovely Bones on April 10, 2012, 08:43:47 AM
...The idea of George Noory trying to moderate a discussion panel which includes "Jay" sends shivers down my spine.

(I apologize for back-to-back posts but this shouldn't be included with my previous silliness.)

You're absolutely right: Noory can't even manage a competent interview of someone who says they've seen a UFO, and he's going to give a clearly very adept manipulator and pedophile a national audience? Riiiight.

Even at the late hour of C2C's broadcast, hundreds of minors listen to C2C nightly. Organizations such as the incredibly vile NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) exist to propagandize the public, and they would pay for such an opportunity as being on C2C. NAMBLA is an "outreach" and "education" group, with the mission of mainstreaming and normalizing pedophilia (as well as providing an underground connection where kiddie porn is traded...and in some cases even the kids themselves, although a criminal case has never been proven).

Instead of being ashamed of their perversion, NAMBLA proudly trumpets its members' twisted desires. But it is also trying to reach kids, the more the better. NAMBLA preaches that even toddlers are mature sexual beings and can make their own decisions about having sex. They tell kids that mom and dad have no right to quash their natural and healthy desire for sex, blah, vomit, blah. All NAMBLA wants is an opportunity to reach as many people as possible, and kids even more. Now, they don't think kids will hear them and immediately put on makeup and eyeliner and go hang out for trolling chicken hawks. But they want to plant a seed in hopes it might ultimately "help" some fellow 'phile to more easily get into the Underoos of a particular target. 

So say George let's an apologetic-sounding pedophile on the air: I for one think a manipulative pedophile might slip in some subtle "ads" for his side before George or anyone at Team Noory catches on to what is happening. For example,he says "People don't realize how mature children actually are" or "Parents try to ignore and stifle their childrens' sexuality, and they're afraid of sex in general." Planting a seed. Now what kind of chaos might that contribute to in a few weeks or months. Or even a few years?

Could this guy be entirely legit? Sure. But he gave up the privilege of the benefit of a doubt when he molested kids. And if I understood what he said about his own case, it was actual molestation, not just possession of kiddie porn he was guilty of.

There's no way I'm going to give a hot mic to a guy when the fellow across from him is a credulous, gullible moron who can be fooled into trusting someone because they're quite and polite. 

Especially when the show isn't about yellin' and screamin'.  Regardless of topic or what anyone says, George mostly sits by passively waiting to go to commercial break.

I can picture George having that round table discussion show, interrupting when he shouldn't and not interrupting when he should.  As usual.

Question:

Should the call screener be brought into this discussion for allowing the caller to reach Noory in the first place?

What are the standing call screener(s)'s instructions? 

"Deny all anti-Ed Dames fanatics.  Allow convicted child porn collectors."

Perhaps the caller didn't elaborate, bypassing by omission.

But for the sake of argument, suppose the screener knew the score and still allowed the call go to Noory.

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on April 09, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
Wells could masterfully function as Knapp's announcer - a truly clever analog to Ross Mitchell of C2C.

Correction, after reading a topic created last night: " - a truly clever analog to Ross Mitchell formerly of C2C."

Usagi

Quote from: Lovely Bones on April 10, 2012, 08:43:47 AM
Even Goldenflame admits he is like an alcoholic and must live day-to-day reaffirming his commitment not to offend and reaffirming his commitment to removing himself from any situation (like riding a bus and seeing an attractive youngster) which might trigger the desire to reoffend. 



Do what now?  This fucker says this and is allowed to have the choice to get on a bus with children?  He should have his balls chopped off and be left to bleed out.  I'm beginning to despise relativist anything. 


And I think this particular conversation sucks.  Granted, Snoory passes along stories of suffering children with disquieting frequency, but equating him with this isn't doing us any favors in not appearing to be mouth-frothing "haters".

fysisist

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on April 10, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
Question:

Should the call screener be brought into this discussion for allowing the caller to reach Noory in the first place?

What are the standing call screener(s)'s instructions? 

"Deny all anti-Ed Dames fanatics.  Allow convicted child porn collectors."

Perhaps the caller didn't elaborate, bypassing by omission.

But for the sake of argument, suppose the screener knew the score and still allowed the call go to Noory.

I think they (the Official C2C Noory Call Screener's Credo and Instruction Manual) can be summarized thus:

"Immediately put through all sycophants, regardless of sexual persuasion or perversion."
"Immediately deny all haters and admitted CoastGab members and/or CoastGab forum perusers, or anyone even hinting at criticality or disbelief."

punkinpie

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on April 10, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
Question:

Should the call screener be brought into this discussion for allowing the caller to reach Noory in the first place?

But for the sake of argument, suppose the screener knew the score and still allowed the call go to Noory.

I considered this.  I've listened to countless hours of talk radio and have never heard this nonsense on any other show.  Maybe the screener was bored that night and wanted to see just how far George's understanding nature goes. 

George could have dumped the call as soon as he said what he was convicted of and claimed they lost connection.  Of course, George would have to be quick on the uptake to pull that off within the ten seconds or so of delay.  Nevermind. 


Those of you who have grown used to Noory's incisive wit, impeccable subject preparation and cerebral approach are in for a treat tonight. Sharon Sebastion , the author of "Darwin's Racists: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow" will warn us of the coming socialist/marxist apocalypse. Some of the reviews on Amazon rave about this book; "If you like to experience profound self-deception that makes you both ignorant and stupid, this book is for you". Special guest tonight- Glenn Beck!
just kidding. I hope George shines tonight like he always does. I would be listening myself if I didn't have to finish my socialist tax return. Always and eternally, Noory Sucks

Oversoul

Quote from: Lovely Bones on April 10, 2012, 08:43:47 AM
George has neither the intelligence nor the background to host a round table discussion of this topic.  That was clear in his brief interchange with "Jay," the pedophile who called in the other night.  As someone above mentioned, listeners could hear Snoory's intrigue grow once he realized he had a real, live pedophile on the line.  That alone indicates he doesn't have the clinical detachment to host such a discussion.
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One of the best discussions in the wake of the post-Sandusky revelations I heard was moderated by Dr. Drew (Pinsky) and included both professionals from the field probably the only "reformed" pedophile I would ever listen to on a panel, a man named Jake Goldenflame.  I'd heard him before--he's served time in prison but has lived about 20 years post-prison without re-offending after intensive therapy.  For the record, I think Goldenflame is the rare exception to the rule, the rule being that it is extremely difficult to rehabilitate child molesters.  Even Goldenflame admits he is like an alcoholic and must live day-to-day reaffirming his commitment not to offend and reaffirming his commitment to removing himself from any situation (like riding a bus and seeing an attractive youngster) which might trigger the desire to reoffend. 

Pinsky and the others on his panel were effectively able to handle having that particular pedophile as a member of a round table discussion.  The idea of George Noory trying to moderate a discussion panel which includes "Jay" sends shivers down my spine.[/font]

I agree that it is extremely difficult to rehabilitate child molesters.  The obsessive-compulsive energies which drive a child molester's sexual passions are so deep rooted in the psyche of the offender that is takes a comprehensive rehabilitation program to address the problem.  This would include not only professional clinical psychotherapy (a field which I believe Noory nowhere comes close to) but also the other aspects of psycho-spirituality and spiritual healing (which I feel Noory has no competence in whatsoever).

But having said that, has anyone thought that the supposed self-confessed pedophile who called C2C might have been a "planted phony caller" (an actor) to spice up the show's sensationalism ("yellow journalism" on the show's part) and/or boost Noory's image on the air as a controversial "caring" talk-show radio host?  Something in my gut feeling tells me it was a planted phony caller.    :-\

Oversoul

Quote from: Frys Girl on April 10, 2012, 10:38:53 AM
Let's be honest. George is a grandfather. Shouldn't he have stuck up for kids instead of offering to bring a pedo on the air right away?

You got to be kidding here.  Several times in the past, Noory has publicly declared over C2C that he would be so utterly UNFORGIVING if anyone were to harm or kill his grandchildren.  Tell me now, who is the truly loving grandfather who would so brazenly use his own grandchildren as a staging platform to proclaim to the world that he has an unforgiving side to his nature? 

He is exposing his own grandchildren at risk to the likes of a wacko listener looking to do some evil against him or his family.  He seemed to be actually projecting his strongest subconscious fears about his family and grandchildren in particular.   Furthermore, doesn't Noory realize that through the workings of "consciousness" (assuming he really understands it) he may unwittingly be wishing that very evil he decries (or some other form of evil) to befall upon his family and bring that unconscious wish to actual fulfillment?   

Oddly enough, I sent him an e-mail chastising him for his self-professed "total unforgivingness" attitude and for risking his grandchildren's lives in the manner I just stated.  I have never heard him repeat those things over C2C since.  I know they used to be part of his guest interview "checklist" because it would be a perennially resurfacing pet remark by him in C2C episodes, and I sensed that he was using it to make him look so righteous (self-righteous really) in C2C.  How hypocritical of a sensationalist Noory is.  What an unthinking clod Noory is!    >:(

Thank you for your earlier words of concern, Sardoni. I'm an adult now with a kid of my own, and when he was young I knew exactly how to teach him to recognize lures and protect himself, and to always keep the lines of communication open which is how you fight these creeps. Happily, that's part of my job as well, so I'm content in that I can help educate kids so that they don't experience what I did. It's my revenge.


Quote from: Lovely Bones on April 10, 2012, 08:43:47 AM
George has neither the intelligence nor the background to host a round table discussion of this topic.  That was clear in his brief interchange with "Jay," the pedophile who called in the other night.  As someone above mentioned, listeners could hear Snoory's intrigue grow once he realized he had a real, live pedophile on the line.  That alone indicates he doesn't have the clinical detachment to host such a discussion.

I've been sitting here reading this thread deep in Sandusky country, where discussion of pedophilia has arrived now for the last five months just about daily in our morning paper.  I do think it's a topic that deserves discussion--in the right hands--as a way to educate parents/teachers/coaches/nurses/etc. about grooming behavior and about the ways pedophiles will manipulate their way into the lives of their victims.   



George Noory has no business interviewing a pedophile as if he was a serious journalist. As far as I'm concerned, he left any news credentials at the door when he began giving platforms to the assortment of medical quacks and flakes of every stripe without once questioning or challenging their outrageous claims. Of course, someone could argue that what he's doing is entertainment, but that makes it even more inappropriate for him to blunder his way through an interview with Jay from Ct, where he would be out manipulated in 3 minutes of less. In fact, he was manipulated in less time than that during the phone call when he began stumbling over wanting to appear to be a nice guy while throwing in his stupid remark about jail, murderers who belong in jail, and his wishes for Jay to rehabilitate himself. And he actually ended up asking a pedophile to give him his number for a later show. I can't say it enough times, George Noory is a gullible, naive schmuck despite the veneer of sophistication he likes to maintain.


If he thought for two seconds about those grandchildren of his, he would have gotten the pedo off the line in record time. But he didn't - his ego is bigger than his common sense or concern for his own grandchildren, never mind anyone else's children which he made clear when he offered a platform for this guy at a later date. I sincerely hope someone talked sense into him after the show, although I agree with Camazotz that this would be the perfect way to get rid of him once and for all. At the very least it exposed him as the not too bright, spineless and self-absorbed jerk he really is.

Scully

Quote from: fysisist on April 10, 2012, 01:36:40 PM
I think they (the Official C2C Noory Call Screener's Credo and Instruction Manual) can be summarized thus:

"Immediately put through all sycophants, regardless of sexual persuasion or perversion." ...


Fysisist, I think there's even more truth to this than jest. The pedophile started his conversation with Simple George by stroking his ego in the way only our suspected "paid callers" do.  He immediately had Noory eating out of his manipulative hand, and from there on he led him like a lamb to the slaughter.


My take is that either it was a setup (as someone else mentioned) in a misguided attempt to once again make GN look like the tender soul he plays on the radio, or the screener was simply fed the same load of pap George was.  :P

Quote from: UnscreenedCaller on April 10, 2012, 10:55:32 PMI sincerely hope someone talked sense into him after the show, although I agree with Camazotz that this would be the perfect way to get rid of him once and for all. At the very least it exposed him as the not too bright, spineless and self-absorbed jerk he really is.
My prediction is that this pedophile show will never happen.  Noory is just the "talent."   The brains of the show (such as they are) are behind the scenes.  Noory doesn't arrange for the guests (although he can suggest them and he can veto ones he really doesn't want).  Pedophiles are rightly unpopular and those responsible for the show are not going to give c2c THAT much of a black eye by having one on.  Not too bright, spineless and self-absorbed sum up Norry quite well. 

Quote from: UnscreenedCaller on April 10, 2012, 10:55:32 PM
. . . that this would be the perfect way to get rid of him once and for all. At the very least it exposed him as the (1) Not Too Bright, (2) Spineless and (3) Self-Absorbed Jerk he really is.

Trifecta!

(and screaming in at a mere tail's length away in 4th place "Something's Going On" followed closely by "Let's Take Some Calls" coming in at 5th.  Look at those hooves kicking up the track!)

blackshap9

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on April 11, 2012, 02:02:02 AM
Trifecta!

(and screaming in at a mere tail's length away in 4th place "Something's Going On" followed closely by "Let's Take Some Calls" coming in at 5th.  Look at those hooves kicking up the track!)
and "It's been a fast night, I feel like I've been time traveling" comes in last.

Quote from: blackshap9 on April 11, 2012, 02:11:24 AM
and "It's been a fast night, I feel like I've been time traveling" comes in last.

And after all the horses are stabled and all the festive, gambling Great Gatsby people have departed . . . 

A lone, smallish figure (some would say dwarf) dressed in green coveralls remains, patiently resurfacing the track. 

UFO Phil.

(cue crickets)


Quote from: Camazotz Automat on April 11, 2012, 02:02:02 AM
Trifecta!

(and screaming in at a mere tail's length away in 4th place "Something's Going On" followed closely by "Let's Take Some Calls" coming in at 5th.  Look at those hooves kicking up the track!)


;D  Not to mention the unholy proximity of George Noory and horse manure.

fysisist

Quote from: Scully on April 10, 2012, 11:20:43 PM

Fysisist, I think there's even more truth to this than jest. The pedophile started his conversation with Simple George by stroking his ego in the way only our suspected "paid callers" do.  He immediately had Noory eating out of his manipulative hand, and from there on he led him like a lamb to the slaughter.


My take is that either it was a setup (as someone else mentioned) in a misguided attempt to once again make GN look like the tender soul he plays on the radio, or the screener was simply fed the same load of pap George was.  :P


Who's jesting?  Certainly not me. 

And as for the Noory grandchildren, they would be wise to change their names and vehemently deny any relation. 

DAE

This is my first post here on this forum.  I hate to say this, but as a die-hard Coast fan since the start, I still find it hard to listen to George.  Even after all these years of him being the host.  As a person, he seems kind and well-rounded and he would probably be an awesome friend.  However when it comes to interviewing, I find myself rarely listening to Coast anymore, which is a sad feeling on my end. 

I took a chance again when Ed Dames was on recently.  I was just floored at how, after all these years, George still appears to be a complete newbie when it comes to understanding remote viewing.  But it's not just the always-a-beginner feel of the discussions, but the usual aspects of George which drive me bonkers.  Such as jumping to a new topic too fast during an interview (often forgetting the guest has only partially started to answer the original question), silly hypothetical questions or what-ifs (to which my own answer could be just as valid as the expert guest), and the tendency now to interview the 'mainstream' or published researchers (versus that prior Art Bell unseen world of the garage and backyard inventors with no books to peddle).

I realize that I myself changing over time also plays a role, whereby I have already graduated so-to-speak from the beginner level of the topics.  But even if a topic was well discussed, Art always had these variables that make you think and make you explore and learn more.  For example with Ed Dames, the basics usually get covered in the first 15 minutes or so with Art.  With George, hours into it, the basics are still needing to be explained or re-explained again.

Of course I am generalizing somewhat.  And I admit that I have had moments where I really liked and respected what comes out of his mouth.  But overall, his interview style keeps me from tuning in, or recommending the show to others.

I think Coast is still a tremendous advantage for people who are just waking up to the unseen world around them.  But I find myself now going to the Coast website just to explore the websites and material by the guests, versus wanting to listen to the guest during the interview. Obviously I disadvantage myself and I surely miss out on some important stuff by not listening as much.  But over time I have been systematically taught by George that details or deep exploration is limited to just a few minutes, as he changes the topic too fast during an interview.  So why bother even listening?  At least that is what I find myself asking myself.

:)


Sardondi

Quote from: DAE on April 11, 2012, 09:42:15 PM

This is my first post here on this forum. (Whereupon follows The Recognition: George-is-a-nice-guy-but; then, the standard complaints -  mainstream guests/topics; repeated guests/topics; cuts off/doesn't listen to guests; inane questions - which have brought almost every CoastGabber here.)...

...(and finally, The Question, which every CoastGabber has asked him/herself)
So why bother even listening?  At least that is what I find myself asking myself.


Well, DAE, sounds like you're here right about on schedule in your life as a C2C listener. Your post is almost exactly like my first was, and about 90% of the other folks here. The difference is, over time you'll probably change and take a harsher view of Simple George. Take me for example: when I first got here I too was careful to say something like, "Gosh, George sure is a swell guy, but, golly, he does seem to ask a lot of dumb questions...and I don't think he listens too well, either."  Whereas today I find myself desperately hoping that Satan will use Noory's naked eye sockets for a toilet. A little harsh perhaps, but once you've witnessed George go full Nooron, you just can't be expected to restrain yourself.

Welcome.

Quote from: DAE on April 11, 2012, 09:42:15 PM
... With George, hours into it, the basics are still needing to be explained or re-explained again.

Of course I am generalizing somewhat.  And I admit that I have had moments where I really liked and respected what comes out of his mouth...

Yes welcome.  Do you have any examples of moments where you liked and respected what George said?

blackshap9

Quote from: Paper*Boy on April 11, 2012, 11:12:25 PM

Yes welcome.  Do you have any examples of moments where you liked and respected what George said?
Run Forrest! RUN!

Shockwave

Just now on coast:  "Is this New World Order thing bad?"  -- GN.

Quote from: blackshap9 on April 11, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Run Forrest! RUN!

That you McDivit, Love Don't Hate troll, Mrs D, etc?  Still starting out with the 'George Sucks but he's a nice guy' schtick before choosing a poster to target?

I'm so happy you're back and enjoying my posts.. George just isn't going to get better is he.


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