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Time Traveler. I recognized one caller who was essentially using the old roleplaying game GURPS Time Travel book as the basis for his story. And he did a great job. 

Area 51: The ones who sounded like actual employees (what color is the door) with the guy who called all panicked and on the run. Great stuff.

Quote from: bsbishop on May 08, 2015, 05:43:55 AM
As others have said, RCH is better with Art than with anyone else.

He typically just seems too condescending to me. It's like he's talking crazy and then says something where the interviewer is supposed to connect the non-obvious (but RCH thinks they're plainly obvious) crazy-dots.

It also gets old with him saying he worked at NASA and was Cronkite's science advisor. When I hear this I think, "It doesn't mean you were any good. It just means you worked there."

The other problem he had is that when he was touting the face on Mars you could see it and say, "Wow - that looks like a face! ...and it's on Mars!" You could show that photo to your friends and they'd say the same thing.

Everything since then has either been us having to imagine something is there (like apartments on the moon or whatever - blurry streaks that look like a photography problem with the lens or the film, not evidence) or he claims something is there but then says NASA won't admit to it. May as well claim that there's a miniature alien golf course on Mars - just that NASA won't release the photos.

Now he's into torsion field / free energy stuff but there's never any proof. Just him saying that his torsion meter went off the charts when he stood in a field or some such nonsense. He also goes on and on about the science of it as if just saying "science" makes his random babbling "fact". I think it's also a play to put himself on a pedestal with "I'm a scientist and you're not that's why you're not understanding my babble."

I don't even find his crazy talk babbling entertaining. It's just tired, now.

Art knew how to handle him. Shut his ass down when he went off topic and toed the edge of "making fun of" at times. Art made RCH fun to listen to. Noorey buys into his BS and thus he's boring. I listened to his old "Mars and the Moon" Show and Art really did handle him well. Listen to "The Colors of Mars" on how shitty a job Noorey did. 2 hours of RCH droning on about fucking Iraq with zero coverage of the supposed topic. 

Quote from: SredniVashtar on May 20, 2015, 09:21:50 AM
I agree with you about Gary North. There was a lot of millennial angst about then, of course, and Art certainly rode that wave for as long as he could. North really got off on the possibility of imminent social breakdown and I remember thinking at the time that is must have a religious connection, and sure enough  he turned out be an evangelical Christian who went around prisons bothering the inmates with all his 'The End is nigh, be thou afear'd' balls.

I know a guy who's world view is based of this nutter. As I said to him once: North should just go join ISIS. He'd be right at home there. Totally insane.

David Adir: Just boring. I assume that most of the guests are full of shit but some are painfully obvious and boring, such as Adir.

Any of Noorey's bullshit non funny guests. I hate that "Angels, crystals, politics" shit with a passion. It's boring, stupid and dumb. Like Noorey.

Hoagland under Noorey: This is legit here. I have Art episodes where he obviously likes to confront Hoagland on certain points and shuts him down while keeping the sperg on topic. Noorey did an episode entitled "The Colors of Mars" which is sorta interesting but the only part of the show that discusses the goddamn colors of Mars is the last 30 minutes. Noorey lets the dumbass ramble about fucking Iraq and Sumar for a goddamn hour. Gods. Nobody cares you hack, just present more bullshit on how NASA changed the color of Mars. While dumb it is fun to listen to.

Skinwalker Ranch by Knapp. Great, GREAT read. Knapp is a good writer.

And sorry, Corso's book was actually sent to Thurmond's staff without the Alien stuff and he penned the Introduction off of that. The Roswell stuff was put in later and the later editions are missing the intro because of that. And I am of the belief that Bill Birnes penned the Roswell material to sell the old fellow's book.

Anything by Loren Coleman is good. While I have my doubts about many of the things he writes about he comes across as a serious author with a genuine interest in scholarship. His book on the history of Bigfoot is one of favorites because it traces the legend so well.

Richard Dolan's "UFOs and the National Security State". I have a fairly wide interest in the Cold War and enjoyed Dolan's work, even though I doubt any of the stuff is actually an alien. It's more fun to read between the lines of both his books and see how the Cold War and the UFO flaps intersected.

While I really don't believe much of what Hancock has to say, he is quite an entertaining guest. I like his books and TV specials as well. He's well spoken and articulate. I don't like him shitting on academia and Egyptology, however. Nor do I like his association with Hoaxland. Other than that, he's OK.   

Listened to his Dark Matter episode this weekend on my epic 19 hour road trip. He is so full of shit, I get embarrassed just listening. The more he digs, the bigger his lie becomes by need. Yes, the moon is covered in glass from the zillion domes that used exist, yes. Not only that, but he's boring. It's the same claims over and over and over again. And he always has to bring up the time he interned for Cronkite and polished his shoes or whatever the hell he did. Over the weekend I spoke to a gentleman who was a payload specialist for the unmanned missions like Surveyor, Mariner and Voyager. He had some damn good things to say about how awesome this stuff was. Hoagland can't even make shit up to sound interesting.

I replied earlier in the thread about John Lear. After an 19 hour road trip punctuated with classic Coast I just wanted to re-emphasize that John Lear has lost his fucking mind. I am actually Facebook friends with him and find his old flying stories way more interesting than his batshittery. But his early 2000s interview with Art really takes the cake. He's not pretending. He's not out to make a buck. He is legitimately mentally ill and I actually feel for the old fella. They way he answers caller questions points to the fact that he actually believes this shit; he's not making it up on the fly like some of the bullshitters do.

Case in point: My Uncle was the same way. Met him once at the Mall when I was little with my mom. He talked about semi-sane stuff for a bit than proceeded to tell us all about how he knew the future and in the future people would communicate with their finger tips. Whenever John Lear speaks about the batshit insane stuff like Alien soul machines and bases on Venus he sounds just like my Uncle, who is a diagnosed schizophrenic (and perfectly sane when on his meds).

Knapp interviewed him and just got some good stories out of him, again, the mastery of Knapp. But Art and Jorch both draw out the mental illness. I do find it amusing that Lazar points out multiple times that he doesn't believe a word and actually draws back in horror with the direction Lear has went.

Linda Mouldy Cow is alright but the monotone voice just kills it.

Frankly, anytime Snoorey has a "Angels" or "Religion" guest on. It's bad enough normally but I can only take so much of the crystal crap.

Isn't that the one where Art complained about how Dallas was even on the show?

I used to be an avid reader of Saucer Smear before the Supreme Commander passed in November of 2012. He mentioned quite a few times how he contacted Snoorey about a possible C-to-C gig and was either rebuffed or simply never heard back. Kinda says much about Noorey, as Moseley, for all of his controversy, was one helluva story teller. He made appearances on a few different podcasts and was always fun to listen to. Plus he had so much history with the UFO movement, including a few hoaxes.

Would have been a great show. Oh well, too late in any case.

If you have no idea who I am talking about, hit up "Saucer Smear" on Google or buy his book, Shockingly Close to the Truth. Fun read, and his participation in the heyday of Saucers in the 1950s made him one the last from that era.

Quote from: Sardondi on March 21, 2013, 09:47:30 AM
Oh, wait - I know this show - It's "The Talking Dead"

It's good, you should try it! A side of cynicism and skepticism makes it the best.

Edit: whoops, meant to respond to the post above the one I quoted!

Thompson almost made me lose control of the car because I was laughing at the insanity so hard. I always pictured him flying one of those personal helicopters from Mythbusters into the ice pack. For some reason that image almost killed me laughing.

John Lear. He's the king. The first show I listened to with Knapp had Lear on and they just discussed all the wackery with Area 51 and Bob Lazar. It was actually really interesting because Lear didn't devolve into absolute nuttery and instead talked about how the story broke and what happened with Lazar. Really good show, made me like Lear until I heard him later on and the insanity came through loud and clear.  Penn and Teller's Bullshit actually interviewed Lear. Really interesting to see him on TV. He didn't come off very well.

Al Bielek: The nutty old guy who claimed to have been part of the Philadelphia Experiment. This was a late 1990s show with Art and it was wonderful. All the best Coast shows always start out normal. You think to yourself "this guy might be legit" for the first hour. Then, after the break, it all goes nuts. Bielek is one of those. He seems sane and not out for a cash grab in the first hour. Then it descends into into batshit nuttery with the Montauk Project and time travel and aliens and all the wacky shit we know and love. No surprise he was affiliated with Preston Nichols at one point. The best part of this show was the callers. One guy, an Electrical Engineer, challenged him on some simple knowledge. Art pressed Bielek why he couldn't answer it. Bielek avoided the question and moved on. Great show. 

They were probably told "Look, we had a bit of a incident in New Mexico, here's what NOT to do if a top secret project crashes near your base".

I can see the USAAF doing that.

Long time reader, first time poster. Been a C to C fan for years. I was really quite happy when I found that I'm not the only one who can't stand Noorey. I listen to an Art show and the difference is insane. Plus Norrey is just so... boring. He's so in to that boring new age crap and his religion that everything just sucks.

Punnett's OK, his show with the Project Serpo people was his best, because he messed around with the guests.
George Knapp is pretty cool for all the "behind to scenes" stuff with Lazar.

Noorey, blah. Haven't listened to the show in years because of the bore. From what you guys have posted, I haven't missed much. Now, I'm going to go an listen to Art interview Al Beilik for the umpteenth time. THAT's how you manage guests and callers.