President Donald J. Trump

[Metron2267]

From a manchild who wouldn't know how to tell the truth if his marriage and presidency depended on it...

From a serial liar Englie who can't even speak honestly to his own nation's history.

You truly are a subhuman pile of shit.

[Metron2267]

And the Cato Institute isn't exactly left-leaning.

There's a point to be made that libertarian stances oft times diverge from classic left-right definitives.

Their veneration of a totally unfettered market and no one being "compelled" to do anything by the state leads them to promote prostitution and user fee based roads while supporting gun rights too.

They have a contradictory social philosophy in many ways.

[Metron2267]

Perhaps Theresa May should suggest that the USAF and Navy withdraw their squadrons and fleets from the airbases and sub bases used in the British Isles if the UK is such a security risk? It would only seem appropriate...And while they're at it, close Menwith Hill and Fylingdales to US military personnel. The other 'security risk' countries could follow suit and politely but firmly tell Trump that obviously US forces would be much safer and secure either back in the US or maybe none NATO countries.

You have a rich fantasy life, obviously.

[Yorkshire pud]

That timeline was relevant to China's overall recent move to control the global steel market, the only meaningful response is by Trump, as anyone who followed the Obamessiah can see.

Uh...the 18,000 cited are Arcelor-Mital employees, not the total employed in our steel industry.

Can you ever speak honestly or discuss data accurately?

Anecdotal.

ROFL...You cite Alex Jones and Trump for your point of reference and you dismiss my real life experiences as anecdotal? ROFL

Already made, read the citations again if you can't come to grips with them.

She saved your steel industry, you dog in the manger traitor.

What steel industry? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about you idiotic muppet. The only steel industry now isn't a tenth of what it used to be. 60000 workers, most highly skilled lost their jobs in Sheffield alone. That was just directly employed by British Steel. The wider catchment of suppliers etc was more than twice that number.

Fake news is a dominant leftard activity.

As opposed to Trump News from Sean Hannity? Oh, you're a fucking moron.

And yet you represent your alleged ability to do so time and again, you raving hypocrite.

Nope...Just the observations of the oaf in the WH...It's pitiful to see the blank look on his face when he doesn't think the camera is on him..There's nothing going on behind those eyes. 

[Yorkshire pud]

From a serial liar Englie who can't even speak honestly to his own nation's history.

You truly are a subhuman pile of shit.

I'm sure your mother loved you at one time, yes, I'm sure she must have.. 

[Yorkshire pud]

You have a rich fantasy life, obviously.

Nope...Just explaining to you the logical progression to ensure that Trump's oft cited reason for tariffs (National security) could impact on his<sic> military outposts dotted around NATO.

[GravitySucks]

Nope...Just explaining to you the logical progression to ensure that Trump's oft cited reason for tariffs (National security) could impact on his<sic> military outposts dotted around NATO.

Or we could just announce that you are now a territory of the US.

STFU

[Yorkshire pud]

This is why President Trump has committed to begin to level the playing field on steel imports: for the security and manufacturing strength of the United States.

Yeah, tell us in six months how it's going for say Harley Davidson, JD, BMW (Built in AL), and any number of goods that the idiot thinks won't be affected by retaliation.. Also keep tabs on Americans complaining at the price rises of imports with no American product that is either there, built to the correct spec or affordable.. 

[Metron2267]

ROFL...You cite Alex Jones and Trump for your point of reference and you dismiss my real life experiences as anecdotal? ROFL

I do.

Because you are the living instance of an anecdote.

And you still refuse to concede that you misrepresented my citation on Arcelor-Metal employment in the US.

You KNOW you did it.

Anyone reading this KNOWs you did it.

So fuck off with your serial LIES.

What steel industry? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about you idiotic muppet.

Again:

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3509/the_truth_about_thatcher_and_the_steel_industry

And it wasn't long before Steel broke out the Big Lie: "in 1980 Margaret Thatcher’s government shut down most of the steel industry, as part of her plan to break the unions". You hear this argument a lot, as though repeating it will make it true. But a look at the facts shows that it isn’t.

In 1955 the British steel industry was working at 98 percent of capacity. But, over the following years, this declined as a result of its failure to adopt new methods (such as the basic oxygen steel-making process and continuous casting) and increased steel production in other countries. By 1966 just 79 percent of capacity was being utilised.

The following year a large chunk of the British steel industry was renationalised (it had been nationalised for a few years in the early 1950s). In 1970 the new British Steel had a record output of 23.8 million tonnes (4.7 percent of the world total, down from 25 percent in 1929).

But the industry was now being run for political rather than economic ends and massive over-manning and consequent low productivity became endemic. By 1977 output had actually fallen to 20 million tonnes (3 percent of the world total). By 1978 British Steel was operating at just two-thirds capacity. And by 1979, British steel workers were a third less productive than their French competitors and 40 percent less productive than West German steel workers.

In the fiscal year 1978-1979 British Steel lost £309 million. This rose to £545 million the following year, one in which workers struck for six weeks for a 20 percent pay rise. They got it, but my dad, who worked in a steel works in Sheffield at the time, said that by the time they went back to work their foreign customers had gone elsewhere.

In 1980-1981, British Steel lost a staggering £1 billion on turnover of £3 billion, earning itself a place in the Guinness Book of Records. By contrast the output of Britain's small private sector steel industry doubled between 1967 and 1979, from 3 million tonnes to 6 million tonnes.

Between 1967 and 1974 employment in the British steel industry fell from 250,000 to 197,000. And by 1990 it had fallen again by 74 percent to 51,000. But other developed countries also saw drastic declines in employment in their steel industries in the same period. In France, for example, employment fell by 70 percent, while in the United States it fell by 60 percent. Even Germany lost 46 percent of its steel workforce.

What happened to towns like Sheffield or Corby was not part of some Thatcherite vendetta and instead was part of a general trend across the industrialised world. It happened in the Rhur Valley and Ohio, was Maggie Thatcher responsible for that too?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/engineering/11941457/Margaret-Thatcher-would-never-have-let-the-steel-industry-collapse.html

British Steel, as it was then, was competing with foreign companies, some that were nationalised and subsidised. If the Government had acted as if it were in a free market it would have had to let British Steel go under. Instead, it gave state aid to allow the firm to get back to fighting fitness.

As opposed to Trump News from Sean Hannity? Oh, you're a fucking moron.

And you're an easily triggered serial liar - period.

Nope...Just the observations of the oaf in the WH...It's pitiful to see the blank look on his face when he doesn't think the camera is on him..There's nothing going on behind those eyes. 

Must be how he made himself into a billionaire...

Gawd but you're a completely delusional asshat!

[Metron2267]

Nope...Just explaining to you the logical progression to ensure that Trump's oft cited reason for tariffs (National security) could impact on his<sic> military outposts dotted around NATO.

...yawwwwnnn...

[Yorkshire pud]

Or we could just announce that you are now a territory of the US.

STFU

Hey, if the USAF staff at Menwith hill and Fylingdales want to try and take on the RAF regiment good luck to em. 

[Metron2267]

Hey, if the USAF staff at Menwith hill and Fylingdales want to try and take on the RAF regiment good luck to em. 

Over your delusions?

Luck with that...

[Yorkshire pud]

I do.

Because you are the living instance of an anecdote.

And you still refuse to concede that you misrepresented my citation on Arcelor-Metal employment in the US.

You KNOW you did it.

Anyone reading this KNOWs you did it.

So fuck off with your serial LIES.

Again:

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3509/the_truth_about_thatcher_and_the_steel_industry

And it wasn't long before Steel broke out the Big Lie: "in 1980 Margaret Thatcher’s government shut down most of the steel industry, as part of her plan to break the unions". You hear this argument a lot, as though repeating it will make it true. But a look at the facts shows that it isn’t.

In 1955 the British steel industry was working at 98 percent of capacity. But, over the following years, this declined as a result of its failure to adopt new methods (such as the basic oxygen steel-making process and continuous casting) and increased steel production in other countries. By 1966 just 79 percent of capacity was being utilised.

The following year a large chunk of the British steel industry was renationalised (it had been nationalised for a few years in the early 1950s). In 1970 the new British Steel had a record output of 23.8 million tonnes (4.7 percent of the world total, down from 25 percent in 1929).

But the industry was now being run for political rather than economic ends and massive over-manning and consequent low productivity became endemic. By 1977 output had actually fallen to 20 million tonnes (3 percent of the world total). By 1978 British Steel was operating at just two-thirds capacity. And by 1979, British steel workers were a third less productive than their French competitors and 40 percent less productive than West German steel workers.

In the fiscal year 1978-1979 British Steel lost £309 million. This rose to £545 million the following year, one in which workers struck for six weeks for a 20 percent pay rise. They got it, but my dad, who worked in a steel works in Sheffield at the time, said that by the time they went back to work their foreign customers had gone elsewhere.

In 1980-1981, British Steel lost a staggering £1 billion on turnover of £3 billion, earning itself a place in the Guinness Book of Records. By contrast the output of Britain's small private sector steel industry doubled between 1967 and 1979, from 3 million tonnes to 6 million tonnes.

Between 1967 and 1974 employment in the British steel industry fell from 250,000 to 197,000. And by 1990 it had fallen again by 74 percent to 51,000. But other developed countries also saw drastic declines in employment in their steel industries in the same period. In France, for example, employment fell by 70 percent, while in the United States it fell by 60 percent. Even Germany lost 46 percent of its steel workforce.

What happened to towns like Sheffield or Corby was not part of some Thatcherite vendetta and instead was part of a general trend across the industrialised world. It happened in the Rhur Valley and Ohio, was Maggie Thatcher responsible for that too?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/engineering/11941457/Margaret-Thatcher-would-never-have-let-the-steel-industry-collapse.html

British Steel, as it was then, was competing with foreign companies, some that were nationalised and subsidised. If the Government had acted as if it were in a free market it would have had to let British Steel go under. Instead, it gave state aid to allow the firm to get back to fighting fitness.

I don't know what point you're making.. British steel had been subsidised one way or another, Thatcher took it away. End of British Steel.

And you're an easily triggered serial liar - period.

Oh, now you're deliberately hurting my feelings.. 

Must be how he made himself into a billionaire...

That's an interesting point.. He bases his wealth on how much he thinks he's worth. The ghost writer of 'The Art of the Deal' was sued by Trump because the author said Trump was only worth 250 million at most...Trump took him to court for the 5 Billion he said he was worth. In court he told the judge he was worth 5 billion because he felt he was worth that although he couldn't prove it... 

But then, Trump's wealth is shady at best because he's usually got it by cheating others (You get a degree from his university at all?) and being sued..He's also been bankrupt five times, which might explain why no American bank will lend him or his crooked extended family money.

Gawd but you're a completely delusional asshat!

You hang onto Trump's every word and accuse me of being delusional? ROFL.... Incidentally you never see Trump laugh about anything do you? Maybe because he doesn't have a sense of humour, most narcissists don't.

[Metron2267]

I don't know what point you're making.. British steel had been subsidised one way or another, Thatcher took it away. End of British Steel.

No.

It was NOT the "end" of British Steel, not by a long shot.

Again!

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3509/the_truth_about_thatcher_and_the_steel_industry

Between 1967 and 1974 employment in the British steel industry fell from 250,000 to 197,000. And by 1990 it had fallen again by 74 percent to 51,000. But other developed countries also saw drastic declines in employment in their steel industries in the same period. In France, for example, employment fell by 70 percent, while in the United States it fell by 60 percent. Even Germany lost 46 percent of its steel workforce.

What happened to towns like Sheffield or Corby was not part of some Thatcherite vendetta and instead was part of a general trend across the industrialised world. It happened in the Rhur Valley and Ohio, was Maggie Thatcher responsible for that too?


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/30/steel-in-the-uk-a-timeline-of-decline

1999: British Steel merges with Dutch company Koninklijke Hoogovens to form Corus Group. UK steel workforce: 28,900.

2002: Closure of Ebbw Vale steel mill in latest round of Corus cuts as it seeks to stem losses.

2007: Indian company Tata Steel buys Corus. UK steel workforce: 23,000.

March 2016: Tata Steel announces plans to sell its loss-making UK steel business, putting at least 15,000 jobs at risk at sites including Port Talbot, Llanwern, Rotherham, Shotton, Corby, Redcar and Hartlepool

Butt of course the entire free market is Maggie's fault, she should have learned the benefits of nationalization from the fabulously successful British Leyland experience, eh?

Oh, now you're deliberately hurting my feelings.. 

Impossible, you appear to have none to speak of.

That's an interesting point.. He bases his wealth on how much he thinks he's worth. The ghost writer of 'The Art of the Deal' was sued by Trump because the author said Trump was only worth 250 million at most...Trump took him to court for the 5 Billion he said he was worth. In court he told the judge he was worth 5 billion because he felt he was worth that although he couldn't prove it... 

These are factual articles on his real net worth, not the gossip you delude yourself with:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/

Donald Trump
President, United States

REAL TIME NET WORTH â€" as of 6/9/18
$3.1 B
Donald Trump became the first billionaire president in U.S. history in January 2017.
The core of his fortune is tied up in a half-dozen buildings in and around midtown Manhattan in New York City, where luxury real estate values have fallen recently.
Trump also owns golf courses and a winery and has licensed his name to companies around the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-31/trump-s-net-worth-slides-to-2-8-billion-lowest-since-campaign

President Donald Trump’s net worth slipped to $2.8 billion, a decline of $100 million over the past year, as revenue at his namesake Fifth Avenue tower and golf courses fell.

The drop, the second in two years, is based on figures compiled by the Bloomberg Billionaires Index from lenders, property records, annual reports, market data and a May 16 financial disclosure. It occurred as Trump began his second year in the White House and his name was stripped from buildings in Toronto, Manhattan and Panama.

The most recent estimate, down from $2.9 billion last June, is the lowest since Bloomberg began tracking Trump’s wealth in 2015. The biggest declines, totaling $220 million, came from adjacent buildings in midtown Manhattan: 6 E. 57th St., which previously housed a Niketown store, and Trump Tower, where lower occupancy resulted in less income.

But then, Trump's wealth is shady at best because he's usually got it by cheating others (You get a degree from his university at all?) and being sued..He's also been bankrupt five times, which might explain why no American bank will lend him or his crooked extended family money.

Wow, you LIED about the bank lending thing just a few weeks back and I spanked you for it, do you ever quit lying when caught?

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/27/business/banks-approve-loans-for-trump-but-take-control-of-his-finances.html

Yesterday morning, in the first part of a two-stage rescue for the 44-year-old developer, some of the nation's largest banks wired $20 million to a Trump bank account to help him meet a midnight deadline to make a $43 million payment to holders of some high-yield ''junk bonds'' backing one of his Atlantic City casinos. Mr. Trump provided the remaining $23 million in cash and bonds.

About 70 banks, with one German holdout, also approved a $65 million loan package for the developer yesterday that will defer much of his bank debt for up to five years.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-has-had-no-trouble-getting-big-loans-at-competitive-rates-2017-06-22

The MarketWatch analysis shows a variety of lenders, all big banks or listed specialized finance companies like Ladder Capital, that have provided lots of money to Trump over the years in the forms of short-, medium- and long-term loans and at competitive rates, whether fixed or variable.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20160710/REAL_ESTATE/160709911/ladder-capital-financial-an-eight-year-old-manhattan-reit-and-a

Lender                                    Amount (millions)                    Property

Ladder Capital Finance            $160                                 40 Wall Street
Ladder Capital Finance            $100                                 Trump Tower
Investors Savings Bank            Under $25                         Trump Park Avenue
Amboy Bank                            Under $25                         Trump National Golf Club in Colts Neck, NJ
Royal Bank America                    Under $25                         Seven Springs, an estate in Bedford, NY
Ladder Capital Finance            $15                                         Trump Plaza
UBS                                            $7                                         Trump International Hotel and Tower 

You hang onto Trump's every word and accuse me of being delusional? ROFL....

You engage in endless gossip, boundless derision, stream of consciousness rhetoric about Trump and think you're NOT delusionall?

You're fucking insane!

Incidentally you never see Trump laugh about anything do you?

Well...there you go again gossip guy!

I know where you source this bullshit, btw:

https://www.thenation.com/article/have-you-ever-seen-donald-trump-laugh/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/does-trump-know-how-to-laugh/501875/

As I said, nothing original ever comes from you, you're a proxy thinker, a repetitive left wing media pawn.

Maybe because he doesn't have a sense of humour, most narcissists don't.

Speaking from your own self-referential, anecdotal life again are you?

Pot/kettle/etc...

[chefist]

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1005551643499356169

https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1005535998497972225

[ACE of CLUBS]

Metron2267 ..... triggered again.
Just running-off at the mouth again ....
Source of amusement, again.

[Metron2267]

Metron2267 ..... triggered again.
Just running-off at the mouth again ....
Source of amusement, again.

Ace of Cretins, consumer of fake news, hater of Trump, lackey to Trudumb - PWND by the Great and Powerful Trump!

All hail Trump the Merciless!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abxOfFOtbg8

[Jackstar]

I fucking lived there. I knew blokes who lost their jobs. Not just at British Steel, but the suppliers, and services that depended on it.

[Yorkshire pud]

Metron2267 ..... triggered again.
Just running-off at the mouth again ....
Source of amusement, again.

He's just generally funny. Qunt Karl was funny like that. He got so upset he went running to MV to cry about it being unfair to him...Just like his messiah does.

[Yorkshire pud]

Ace of Cretins, consumer of fake news, hater of Trump, lackey to Trudumb - PWND by the Great and Powerful Trump!

All hail Trump the Merciless!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abxOfFOtbg8

March 2017? 

Is that it?

[Yorkshire pud]

 

The link that metronome posted...


http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20160710/REAL_ESTATE/160709911/ladder-capital-financial-an-eight-year-old-manhattan-reit-and-a

A quote from it....

Ladder Capital, an eight-year-old lender based in Manhattan that specializes in making loans that banks often avoid, has granted $275 million worth of mortgages to Trump in recent years, according to city records. Trump turned to Ladder after major New York banks long ago stopped doing business with him, according to his personal financial statement filed with the Federal Election Commission.

The likes of Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase appear to have turned their backs on Trump since the early 1990s, when the developer nearly collapsed into bankruptcy and the predecessors of those two big lenders seized assets like Trump Airlines and the Plaza Hotel and sold them at a loss. In his 2007 book, Think BIG and Kick Ass in Business and Life, Trump offered some insights into the ordeal that may help explain why big U.S. banks have avoided him ever since.

Who knew? 

[Jackstar]

Who knew?

Who cares? I don't see you pointing out the billions of dollars in waste and fraud that happens in government and military all the time--you're frontin' like you're an adult, you do understand that in business, there's shrink? It's a concept. People write whole books about it. You're an idiot.

Your constant refrain of drumbeats that go over Trump's trivial failures--oh noes, he fucks professionals and handles hundreds of millions of dollars throughout the course of his entire life and has successfully cruised the system five times, what a monster, yawn, snore--does little to conceal your single-minded myopia these days. Do you really not understand that everything you're whining about, is a virtue to someone else? You're not helping any cause, least of all your alleged ones.

In short, go fuck yourself, you pathetic loser. Go find a real man and have him explain history to you.

[Yorkshire pud]

Who cares? I don't see you pointing out the billions of dollars in waste and fraud that happens in government and military all the time--you're frontin' like you're an adult, you do understand that in business, there's shrink? It's a concept. People write whole books about it. You're an idiot.

Your constant refrain of drumbeats that go over Trump's trivial failures--oh noes, he fucks professionals and handles hundreds of millions of dollars throughout the course of his entire life and has successfully cruised the system five times, what a monster, yawn, snore--does little to conceal your single-minded myopia these days. Do you really not understand that everything you're whining about, is a virtue to someone else? You're not helping any cause, least of all your alleged ones.

In short, go fuck yourself, you pathetic loser. Go find a real man and have him explain history to you.

Oh I love you Mike...But the last flower delivery was wilted before it arrived.. You must do better. I DO LOVE though you describing Trump's almost comical need to borrow money when his avenues are diminishing all the time* (Because of his terrible reputation) as 'trivial failures'.. Just like his university I suppose...Creamed off $30000 per applicant and then zilch... What a paragon of business. 


It would explain him going to the discredited Deutsche bank and Russian oligarchs though... 

[PB the Deplorable]

Yorkie believes politicians except Trump are honest public servants doing their best, and the main stream media evenhandedly simply reports events and information. 

He's from England, where they've proudly handed control of their 2000 year old capital city over to poor illiterate immigrants who hate them.

We should all take what he has to say very very seriously.

[Jackstar]

You must do better.

dismissive hand-waving gestures


You literally don't even rate the effort. Your arguments are pathetic and your point of view on adult affairs is rooted in a childishness that I can't even begin to fathom--what the fuck was in the water you were drinking in your youth?

Do you even drink water, bro? Anyway, go get fucked--grats on living the dream. Thanks for taking another slag out of the pool.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Thanks for taking another slag out of the pool.

How dare you refer to Laura that way.  She's a life long bureaucrat at the DMV, where she spends her days thinking of ways for them to save us money.

[GravitySucks]

How dare you refer to Laura that way.  She's a life long bureaucrat at the DMV, where she spends her days thinking of ways for them to save us money.

They should hire an entire department of those people. California would have a budget surplus.

[Jackstar]

a life long bureaucrat at the DMV

I know I feel safer.

[ACE of CLUBS]

Hilarious ......
Triggered cucks fall all over themselves ....
The world chuckles.

[Dr. MD MD]

Hilarious ......
Triggered cucks fall all over themselves ....
The world chuckles.

Does this Heather loving lesbian really think this shit is in any way effective? Or is this some sort of overly obvious psyop. Asking for Jackstar's handler.