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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 08, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
Actually, they don't.  Or shouldn't.  It's illegal to use campaign funds for anything not necessary to the campaign, and campaign funds weren't used.  The law was followed as it should have been.  That Moller, the media, and his other enemies want to pretend otherwise isn't a surprise.


You know all this because? At the moment, Cohen is facing some very serious charges due to him accepting foreign and domestic funds for lobbying and not declaring such. He's not an official lobbyist, so why foreign interests would go directly to him and give him money we can only guess...Unless it's because he's his former client's Mr fixer? Maybe?

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Here's the former head of the FEC's op-ed piece in the WSJ on the subject:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/stormy-weather-for-campaign-finance-laws-1523398987   

For those, like me, who don't have a subscription, here's the report on his NYT op-ed from the Epoch Times.  That the Epoch Times found his op-ed piece newsworthy and the usual fake news outlets didn't is no surprise - the ET is a rarity in this day an age - a serious newspaper:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/former-fec-chairman-trump-lawyers-hush-money-is-not-a-campaign-contribution_2492089.html   

Sure, but that's if it isn't campaign money. There's so much cash sloshing around in various slush funds run on Trump's behalf, any accountant would be forgiven to not be able to track it all down. You know the inauguration fund was over twice that of Obama's? And yet they can account for less than a third of expenditure. Nor can they explain the money that came from foreign interests.

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So Pud, now that you know the truth about this issue and the rules that cover it, you can put that bit of fake news behind you.

Oh I so wish you were correct....And it isn't fake just because Trump says it is.. You know the drill. If Trump doesn't like what he sees or hears, it's fake. It doesn't mean it is though. And really, you should be smart enough to know whatever comes out of his mouth should be treated with the utmost sceptisism.

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Moller is incompetent,


Ahh the Trump method..Deliberately misspell someone's name to try and discredit them... Carry on.

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as his work history to date indicates.


Nope, wrong again. Or are you holding Trump up as a beacon of virtue and someone to aspire to being like?

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He certainly either doesn't understand campaign funding rules, or more likely, doesn't care.

I would bet money he understands more about law and the dark side of the moon than either you or Trump will ever get close to knowing. And as for caring, he seems to care very much; Today Manafort was indicted again, this time for obstructing justice (interfering with witnesses) and conspiring to do same.. The walls are tumbling bubba.

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The fake news media isn't interested in getting things right, they're interested in getting Trump.

Last I heard, the press won't be the arbiters, Congress, Senate and the courts will. Unless you believe it should be Sean Hannity? But he isn't really press either is he.

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After spending millions of dollars,


But a lot less than the money spent on his golfing trips. I'm sure you'd baulk at the cost if it was say Obama being looked into, no?

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distracting Trump and his administration from implementing his agenda

Indeed, those pardons won't happen all by themselves.. Who's next? Posthumous pardon for Tim McVie?

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- and, frankly, investigating Obama and his team's illegal interference in the election )the real reason for all this) - ruining the lives of anyone they can with ties to Trump in an attempt to intimidate him -- after all that, after all is said and done, what are they going to do, say ''oh, there's nothing there, never mind''?  I really hope there is a proportional downside for the rats involved with this.


LOLOLOL...Oh bless you. Ruining the lives of whom exactly? I have never yet read you ever complain about an ongoing criminal investigation 'ruining the lives' of suspects. Ever.

Tell you what. Disband the police, completely. Disband courts, the FBI, the spooks, the lot. Because clearly it 'isn't fair' that suspects in criminal matters should be investigated. They should have compensation for their trouble and left alone because crime has been eliminated, it has been outlawed.

One of Trump's campaign promises was to eliminate crime; I don't think anyone realised he meant make it legal to do anything, even things that could be seen as illegal, such as money laundering, tax fraud, more tax fraud and more money laundering..  ;D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 08, 2018, 02:30:04 PM
The truth is, Obama politicized the FBI, the Justice Dept, the CIA, and the the NSA, among other departments and agencies.

The ''interference'' in the election came from the Obama Administration, not Russia.  This whole thing is the result of a scramble to cover their tracks when Trump won the election. .


That will explain why Comey said what he said before the election that took the wind out of Clinton's sails.. To get Clinton elected..  ;D

Trump said it was rigged remember. Only he missed out that it was rigged to get him elected.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:01:38 PM

That will explain why Comey said what he said before the election that took the wind out of Clinton's sails.. To get Clinton elected..  ;D

Trump said it was rigged remember. Only he missed out that it was rigged to get him elected.

I have no idea what was going through Comey's mind.  It was very clear Mrs Clinton mishandled classified information, destroyed evidence, and tampered with witnesses.  Americans have been prosecuted and jailed for much less when it comes to mishandling classified information at a far lower classification level and sheer volume that what went through that server.

Comey's on again, off again, on again waffling on this suggests pressure from above from the Obama thugs, and pressure from below from rank and file police and FBI agents, and him not knowing what to do.  He's weak and didn't respond well, that's for sure.

Had he simply done his job, consequences be dammed, it would have doomed the Democrats, and he knew it.  Perhaps his late hour comments were his conscience talking.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 08, 2018, 03:17:08 PM
I have no idea what was going through Comey's mind.  It was very clear Mrs Clinton mishandled classified information, destroyed evidence, and tampered with witnesses.  Americans have been prosecuted and jailed for much less when it comes to mishandling classified information at a far lower classification level and sheer volume that what went through that server.

Comey's on again, off again, on again waffling on this suggests pressure from above from the Obama thugs, and pressure from below from rank and file police and FBI agents, and him not knowing what to do.  He's weak and didn't respond well, that's for sure.

Had he simply done his job, consequences be dammed, it would have doomed the Democrats, and he knew it.  Perhaps his late hour comments were his conscience talking.

Well if Comey was an instrument of the 'deep state' to get Clinton elected, they either didn't word the memo correctly or he misread it. Because as far as foot shooting is concerned, he did a pretty good job if the intention was to get her in as POTUS.  ;D

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:01:38 PM

That will explain why Comey said what he said before the election that took the wind out of Clinton's sails.. To get Clinton elected..  ;D

Trump said it was rigged remember. Only he missed out that it was rigged to get him elected.

In the past year and a half, has the media found anyone who voted for Trump regretting it and claiming their vote was due to fake news from Russia?  Anyone?

Because half the voters voted for Mrs Clinton based on fake news from our media.  Had the ''watchdog'' media vetted her, routinely asked her about and reminded the voters of her ethics lapses and corruption over her lifetime, investigated the money trail regarding her phony ''foundation, etc. by the end of the campaign her support would have been in single digits.

And frankly, that's where Obama would have finished in 2008 as well, had they vetted him and his ethics and his associations.

So there's that.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:23:03 PM
Well if Comey was an instrument of the 'deep state' to get Clinton elected, they either didn't word the memo correctly or he misread it. Because as far as foot shooting is concerned, he did a pretty good job if the intention was to get her in as POTUS.  ;D

His job was to wrap up the investigation of the wiener laptop emails before her coronation so that it wouldn't haunt her presidency.  Silly boy.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:23:03 PM
Well if Comey was an instrument of the 'deep state' to get Clinton elected, they either didn't word the memo correctly or he misread it. Because as far as foot shooting is concerned, he did a pretty good job if the intention was to get her in as POTUS.  ;D

If it had been anyone else, she would have been in prison by the time the elections rolled around.  His back and forth is obviously something that needs to be explained to the American people.  Funny how the fake news media isn't much interested in this either.

Another anomaly is when Trump fired him, it was the Ds calling for his head - for the very reason you stated.  Odd that they flipped the narrative the instant he was fired and tried to then make him a saint.

Jackstar




Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
Oh? When was she paid after they had sex? I think she said they had sex once at Tahoe.

Literally pathetic. Further, paying for sex acts is lawful in that state. So, what's the impetus behind you (or, indeed, anyone) giving a toss? Demonstrate your point.


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:01:38 PM
Trump said it was rigged remember.

Hey, remember this one?

Quote from: Jackstar on June 08, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Elizabeth Warren agrees Democratic race 'rigged' for Clinton

That's a link from ten minutes ago, and your favorite source! The BBC! Since you're so interested in shenanigans of an electoral nature, it follows that this development should fascinate you far, far more than who someone was fucking twelve years ago.


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
clearly it 'isn't fair' that suspects in criminal matters should be investigated

The FBI launched a criminal probe against former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn two years after the retired Army general roiled the bureau’s leadership by intervening on behalf of a decorated counterterrorism agent who accused now-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and other top officials of sexual discrimination, according to documents and interviews.

Conflict of interest much? Where was the recusal? Bring your 'A' game, because you're on the hook for this.

Jackstar

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 08, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
His back and forth is obviously something that needs to be explained to the American people.

Hey mang--Lodge orders is Lodge orders.


Jackstar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on June 08, 2018, 12:33:21 PM
it’s hard for me to take seriously a woman who only claimed that Trump took advantage of her sexually after it was reported that he was seriously considering a run for President and only went public with her claims after recieving a settlement and signing a non disclosure agreement and subsequently requesting and being turned down for a job on Trump’s campaign staff

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it’s hard for me to take seriously a woman

Still, superior to a Yorkshireman.

Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
I agree with the first of your paragraph. The thing about her taking advantage is incorrect though. She didn't approach him. She'd already had her story published in 2011 and as far as she was concerned she'd moved on. It was Cohen who went to her (and at least one or two other women) just before the election to pay them off. She was represented by it now looks a lawyer who was in fact working for Trump..Hence she subsequently secured the services of Avanatti. Cohen tried to get her to lie and say that no such affair took place, made it public and therefore breaking the terms of the NDA. He broke the deal, so then all bets are off.


Jesus Christ, it's like you're some kind of research wizard. Awe-inspiring! But, wait--where are the links to sources?





I'm leaning towards the conclusion that Trump and Daniels are in fact working together, and the entire story is a psyop to conveniently distract from talking about anything important. Note, that I was vetting this conclusion before Dipshit started doubling down on his hardcore fact-finding investigative forum mission from his armchair. Circumstantial of course, yet--compelling.

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 08:52:47 AM

As long as you're happy that the orange oaf is controlled by fox Trump news, all is well. Maybe the next step would be to simply open a new studio in the WH, disband the entire idea of Congress and the Senate and just have a King Trump, with his courtiers being anyone employed by Rupert Murdoch.

Just as we had Lord Obamessiah, crowned and coronated by our corrupt lamestream media?

I 'spose...turn about might be fair play...

>:(

Metron2267

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 08, 2018, 09:30:49 AM
And the porno circuit.  Isn't America great? ;D

LOl, tis indeed...

Btw, nice cod piece, Zardoz...

;)

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 10:01:10 AM
Ooops. Melania's spokeswoman has come out today and said that Melania hasn't had a conversation with Ole Rudy so how would he know what she thinks? But Rudy was thrown out by his third wife when he was fucking his then press secretary, so maybe that's why he came up with that lie?

I think you actually BUY the Enquirer at the supermarket checkout line...

:(

Metron2267

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 08, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
She didn't press the issue until it was expedient for her to do so.  That would have been the months since the election.   I don't understand why she did it with Trump either. Maybe she got off on telling her friends that she fucked Trump.  :-[ Who knows? She knows how to press an advantage.  I'm not necessarily blaming her for making the most out of it. 

I don't really give a damn one way or another.

It's the nothingest of nothing burgers.

8)

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
She's been vilified because she's a porn performer, yet an arms dealer, or drug dealer isn't vilified so much. Why is that?

Cuz they ain't trying to take down a sitting president, duh.

QuoteAnd why should her career path make her an invalid witness?

Basic character concerns.

QuoteI don't think she believes she's noble, but then she hasn't asked to be considered so. The difference is, she has nothing to gain by lying

Yes she does, notoriety and that translates into $$$ late in her prime fuckslop years before the looks go all to crap.

Quote(And Trump hasn't said she has) he expects to be believed, and yet lies all the time. And his wife's comments after Ole Rudy spoke for her, speaks volumes.

You're such a breathless little gossip girl, aren't ya?

Metron2267

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 08, 2018, 12:49:17 PM
She stuffed her ears?  LOL

I agree with the gist of your argument though.  Trump and Daniels used each other.  She for financial gain and he wanted to fuck a porn star.

Couldn't he have picked one that looks less like Peyton Manning?

;D

Metron2267

Quote from: Juan on June 08, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Who cares? Politicians have always paid for whores with campaign funds.

And whored out their own votes for contributions and lobbyist gigs after they leave office.

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
One of Trump's campaign promises was to eliminate crime; I don't think anyone realised he meant make it legal to do anything, even things that could be seen as illegal, such as money laundering, tax fraud, more tax fraud and more money laundering..  ;D

Sorry, he's not affiliated with the Clinton Global Foundation for Graft and Money Laundering.

You'll have to talk to Peter Giustra.... >:(

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:01:38 PM

That will explain why Comey said what he said before the election that took the wind out of Clinton's sails.. To get Clinton elected..  ;D

He didn't take any wind out of her sails, that was all her dragon lady persona that undid her.

QuoteTrump said it was rigged remember. Only he missed out that it was rigged to get him elected.

By whom and for what?

Comey sure had no respect for him, nor did the rest of the deep staters.

Try again.

It looks like the rust belt 'rigged' an election by showing up to VOTE Republican!

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2018, 03:23:03 PM
Well if Comey was an instrument of the 'deep state' to get Clinton elected, they either didn't word the memo correctly or he misread it. Because as far as foot shooting is concerned, he did a pretty good job if the intention was to get her in as POTUS.  ;D

So he came to a point where he felt the flames licking his career and decided to save his own ass, duh.

He sure didn't toss Loretta Lynch and Obozo out on the tarmac...

Metron2267

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 08, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
If it had been anyone else, she would have been in prison by the time the elections rolled around.  His back and forth is obviously something that needs to be explained to the American people.  Funny how the fake news media isn't much interested in this either.

Another anomaly is when Trump fired him, it was the Ds calling for his head - for the very reason you stated.  Odd that they flipped the narrative the instant he was fired and tried to then make him a saint.

+1!

Now that's a sound memory .

Jackstar

Quote from: Jackstar on June 08, 2018, 04:23:29 PM
a psyop to conveniently distract from talking about anything important


11 replies to 4 authors. Just sayin'. I'm not here to judge.




Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 08, 2018, 05:28:47 PM
So he came to a point where he felt the flames licking his career and decided to save his own ass, duh.

He sure didn't toss Loretta Lynch and Obozo out on the tarmac...


Wow, you really do have your finger on the pulse! Why would he imagine that? Trump was yet to congratulate him and later tell him looked forward to 'working with him'.. Of course it didn't turn out like that, and when Flynn was fired because he was an undeclared foreign agent and the FBI started to take notice, Trump wanted Comey to lay off Flynn, Comey refused, Trump fired Comey because of that, which was the first time he obstructed justice. And if only he hadn't, Mueller wouldn't have been given the job he has...  ???

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 08, 2018, 05:16:57 PM
Cuz they ain't trying to take down a sitting president, duh.


Nope...try again.

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Basic character concerns.


What? She's not of good character because she's a porn performer and is honest about it...And Trump is good character even though he's cheated all his life, founded a fake university, money laundered.....Oh you have a warped sense of 'character'.  ;D

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Yes she does, notoriety and that translates into $$$ late in her prime fuckslop years before the looks go all to crap.

As opposed to the current POTUS and his family currently cashing in on him being POTUS?

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You're such a breathless little gossip girl, aren't ya?


Nope, but that doesn't stop you being a dipshit cultist.  ;)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: StarrMountain on June 08, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way, you're a gullible idiot. Stay off the bong. Trump is fucking the US economy. Sure he's close to China after he said they were the enemy, and he's pissing off US allies, but here's the deal..It won't work in the US favour. Take a note of the targeted tariffs that those allies are imposing in retaliation... And where geographically they target in the USA... It's clever stuff.  :-\

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