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No need for the 'other' forum. Forum interaction of any kind is not high on my list.
If you mean who I think you do? I don't believe they were any kinder to Heather.

Nor did I forget the Falkie thread here.  Never been a fan of - it is like poking a sharp stick at a mouse trapped in a barrel.
Dif may be  Falkie seemed at one time to be a willing participant? tho that could be argued on different points as to ability.
Haven't read it in  years and won't be.

Anyways
Art perfect? no.
Haven't deified him in passing nor in life.
Remember the crazy glue lips.
The stepping off the back porch when it wasn't there, being reno'd  and he was lucky he did not land on the exposed rods for concrete form.
Aware of all the scuttlebutt re marriages/kids. etc, etc.
In acknowledging how disgusting the hits on him were, that was does not make me a horse with blinders on and unable to to see clay feet.

But the mess he left for his wife and Heather. The current situation.
Art did not look at the big picture , whether contracts etc, it is sad to see the repercussions playing out in public.
I only state that to acknowledge aware of it. But really it should be private.
Having no knowledge of any of it would be fine by me.

We are all flippin human.  Those who don't live in glass houses have no fear of rocks.

The time of the trolls and the trashing was extreme while Art was alive near the end there. I don't think Art thought Bellgab was vaguely lovable anymore. How could he.

Just thinking on all of the fallout.  In regards to Heather,  the Bell family, if anyone had truly cared how his children and widow were coping with such a huge loss - taking into consideration that the all out campaign to ridicule Heather only just added to the turmoil.  Along with the speculations.

In regards to what Heather's situation is now , it is totally separate.
I do hope she is doing OK.
And I appreciate your reply WOTR.

Looking back at the events of what led to first joining this site. From when it was named George Noory Sucks to current  (Tho initially  using a different login name back then)  Wonder if any users here or elsewhere on 'any' other sites, any internet media, channels, podcasts etc,  seriously consider the impact of what they do. They should.

Joined only when Art Bell was coming back & this was the site to be in on breaking developments, tho with hesitation because not really interested in being a member of a site that's main purpose was to belittle a talk host that some did not like. Ok I admit. I never was a fan of GN. Had an Art bias I could not let go of  but felt no need to crucify him for that.  I did not like him - Obviously many did as he still hosts today.

But hey, Art was coming back. The site name ended up changed. It was so cool & exciting he was coming back! So joined - fully aware that considering the treatment of Noory , at anytime it could be directed to someone else.  A shark tank.

I thought Art was naive in thinking this was a safe supportive place to be. I also thought that his posting on a site that had supported ridiculing GN made fair turn around when it became Art as the target. Just a mess. Fair? but certainly not nice to see happen.

It wasn't cool when even Art's biggest supporters turned on him. Or what was posted about him. Sure facts are facts, but speculation and outright creepy trolls who posted some awful things - ( never was moderated. It should have been).
But hey - it was a free for all on Noory. Why not get Art once he was out of favor.

Thing is I think it really bothered Art.
Art in hospital dealing with COPD ,perhaps not likely to survive that, still individual posters willing to go all out. No site moderation either. Free speech. It's so great isn't it. Not really unless the purpose of Bellgab was to make his remaining time miserable. I had hoped he did not visit the site. Thing is, I think he did and he took that to heart.

Nor has it been anything but stomach turning to see  that same animosity/creepiness turned on Heather Wade.
Like her or not as a show host. She managed to get from this site to hosting with Art. Often people  would rather see others fail than make it.  Of course the animosity to Art was transferred to her.

I never followed Art's last reincarnation show once he left it, as it was really only Art I was interested in hearing. It really had nothing to do with whether I liked Heather's style or not.

But occasionally checked in on the drama all across the internet of Heather taking on the show, never been willing to be a part of it. Nor to make things harder on someone who was/ is obviously having a difficult time.

It would cause skin crawling, sleepless nites and a total question of conscience to wonder if  had a part in driving someone past their ability to cope. Noory, Art, or Heather, or any individual.

Many times in life people go thru hard times, hopefully not exposed publicly. Many times in those periods there is family or friends who when one needs some grounding come thru.

Lucky if one has those connections and people.

One never expects to need that, but life can throw curve balls and when it surely does, it is that support that keeps one going.

Liking  a person or not. With good reason or not,  with what an individual might consider legitimate reasons or history to base it on , or whether have only interacted thru forums & anonymous user names, or even in a more professional or business interaction.

Maybe holding to a higher standard and 'Taking the Highroad'  - Doing no harm, rather than defaulting to the lowest common denominator is something to consider.

I don't know Heather, I have never followed her show but because of listening to Art since1996, did occasionally catch up on what had been transpiring.

I hope Heather is ok and only wish her the best even in regards to all the 'he said, she said scuttle' because bottom line it is obvious that it has been very hard. It doesn't matter that as 'redacted' she may have fallen into the trap of being part of the so called witty hits on Noory/ Big thing in its time. I think Noory had a thicker skin, I hope so for his sake. The same thing being done to her now, tho really it is more base and disgusting.

When this was done to Art many left the forum, many who were worth reading and some of what they shared would make one think on some issues a bit deeper. The decent ones.

Food for thought,  hopefully.
Or turn it into reeking garbage/ the stink will cling.
One always has a choice to consider whether their interactions are cruel or kind and what impact it truly has.

Possibly having listened to almost every interview he has done.
Have to agree with the original poster of the thread. It is wearing thin.

Appears the newest slant is on the missing cases of young educated men in cities now. "Eewh' near water just like in the forest cases.

As usual no comment from Paulides as to what is happening - but those supposedly involve noises heard on the cellphones of strong wind in the background.

So at first he really left the listener on the missing forest cases with really no other option but to figure he means  that it's sasquatch. Especially since he is a sasquatch researcher.
Now it it leaves the listener with it's some kind of abduction by air.. ufo's in the city ones?
That he won't state what he thinks is happening to me seems a copout. Ha . Pun intended.

Living in the semi wilds myself. With a neighbour who went missing on a hike - and the whole search n rescue routine - that he treats like SARS just gives up for some diabolical reasons or insider info as to why to stop- is a smear on rescue workers. Missing people can only be searched for, for so long, before the effort and manpower has to move onto other cases. I know for a fact that individuals from SARS and others continued to search when they were able, for years for the person I knew who went missing.

He says he respects rescue workers but in the next sentence implies they all have some kind of insider information as to why they stop the searches after a week or so.

The bit about how people often go missing picking berries and near water is a lame attempt to make it sound mysterious.

Rivers and Creeks are known wildlife corridors. Wildlife use them to travel. I can attest to that having lived alongside a creek with cougars and bears appearing in the backyard on occasion.
& berry picking is where one is most likely to run into animals also sharing in natures seasonal bounty.
I will never forget driving across a bridge over a medium sized river and seeing an elk coming down the middle of it with the sun setting in the background.
Creeks and Rivers are wildlife corridors.

There are some odd cases he has reported on.
But the bit about berries and water I find especially ridiculous.

To think that one will always find evidence if it is an animal attack is not realistic either. Before search dogs are often called in - many people have already been on the scene disturbing scent trails.

I'm not saying some of the cases aren't weird, but many things can happen to hikers thru injury, or catastrophic events that have nothing to do with abductions from some unknown entity.

Not sure, but think this is the podcast that has moved onto city abductions and strange deaths.

http://www.wheredidtheroadgo.com/2015/09-05-15DavidPaulides.mp3

His reporting of cases is all very entertaining and titillating when it is not someone you know who he has included in his abduction scenarios from something he will not even identify.