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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Here's an article about the use of ''alt right propaganda'' to go after Franken-groper. 

The article starts off stating the people behind the operation are ''white nationalist provocateurs'', whatever that means, and ''fake news sites'', again whatever that means - certainly considering what the main stream media has turned into. 

This post isn't about the people behind the attacks on Franken, it's about saying I'm all for this type of attack on Liberal-''Progressive'' political figures, because this is the sort of smear campaign they and their accomplices in the media have been conducting for decades.  I believe in fighting back, instead of always taking the ''high road'' and always being on the defensive. 

Until these jackasses are routinely on the receiving end of the poison they've pumped into the system, nothing is going to change - and that's not tolerable.  It's also another reason Real America cheers Trump when he gives it back to them.  Fuck that asshole Al Franken, let's take some more of them down.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-social-media-psy-op-that-took-down-al-franken/ar-BBJjJpC?ocid=ASUDHP   

Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on February 19, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Isn't it amazing how society has "progressed" in such a short period of time? Seriously. Even under Clinton, Bill that is, could you imagine not only the normalization of deviance, drug use, being an illegal alien, porn of crazy varieties, etc would not just be mainstream or acceptable but something to be seen as a source of pride in many circles, especially Hollywood and the media? That something like a sex-tape or some public drunken behavior is a source of pride and fame? To denigrate the country is a good thing and will grant you praise and accolades? That places that used to be "about liberal values," like the media and universities are not against free speech? That Leftists and Dems now praise agencies like the CIA and FBI- but police are vilified? Being a victim is a source of self-worth? Losers are celebrated more than winners? It is weird and sort of amazing how quickly things have changed.

It’s like the sixties in overdrive.  It started with the the left’s acceptance of Bill Clinton’s rape of women and his getting a knobber in the Oval Office from a 22 yo intern and carried through to their election of a homosexual Muslim communist who accelerated the Nation’s decline into moral and literal  bankruptcy.  The pendulum started to swing the other way with the election of Trump in lieu of another Democrat serial felon and the Republic will survive and regain its greatness despite the left’s determination to make it a socialist banana republic.   




Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 19, 2018, 07:52:42 PM
They didn’t register as agents of a foreign government.  Of course we always observe such niceties when we attempt to influence elections in foreign countries.  And it’s not like the Soviets attempted to influence elections/politics before and during the Cold War or anything without the benefit of Facebook.

The indictments are futile gesture that come just before Mueller is scheduled to submit a budget request.   

Isn't registering as agents of foreign governments for people and law firms in DC lobbying Congress on behalf of those governments?

It can't be that every non-citizen with a political opinion is in violation, could it?  Is that what it says in the First Amendment?  Is it even what it says in whatever law governs agents of foreign governments?

Because if it is, we need to arrest every non-citizen - legal and illegal - protesting, writing, or speaking on behalf of illegal aliens.  For starters. 

Their presence greatly benefits their home countries, and many of their home countries encourage them to come here.  The Mexican government supports Reconquista.  How is this not in violation of this apparently oh so serious law?

pate

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 19, 2018, 08:50:02 PM
They have been defunded.  I just got a mailing from my local PBS station that said they had been defunded and that I need to cough up some money.  You don’t suppose the bastards are lying to me do you?

Fake media?

GravitySucks

Quote from: albrecht on February 19, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Isn't it amazing how society has "progressed" in such a short period of time? Seriously. Even under Clinton, Bill that is, could you imagine not only the normalization of deviance, drug use, being an illegal alien, porn of crazy varieties, etc would not just be mainstream or acceptable but something to be seen as a source of pride in many circles, especially Hollywood and the media? That something like a sex-tape or some public drunken behavior is a source of pride and fame? To denigrate the country is a good thing and will grant you praise and accolades? That places that used to be "about liberal values," like the media and universities, are now against free speech? That Leftists and Dems now praise agencies like the CIA and FBI- but police are vilified? Being a victim is a source of self-worth? Losers are celebrated more than winners? It is weird and sort of amazing how quickly things have changed.

It is #algore that invented the internet and global warming/carbon credits.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 19, 2018, 09:46:12 PM
Isn't registering as agents of foreign governments for people and law firms in DC lobbying Congress on behalf of those governments?

It can't be that every non-citizen with a political opinion is in violation, could it?  Is that what it says in the First Amendment?  Is it even what it says in whatever law governs agents of foreign governments?

Because if it is, we need to arrest every non-citizen - legal and illegal - protesting, writing, or speaking on behalf of illegal aliens.  For starters. 

Their presence greatly benefits their home countries, and many of their home countries encourage them to come here.  The Mexican government supports Reconquista.  How is this not in violation of this apparently oh so serious law?

F.Y.I.  The contention is that the trolls were acting as quasi agents of the Russian government.  Under the circumstances the indictments are meaningless unless they are intended to trigger further sanctions against Russia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 19, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
F.Y.I.  The contention is that the trolls were acting as a quasi agent of the Russian government.  Under the circumstances the indictments are meaningless unless they are intended to result in further sanctions against Russia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act

I'm going to go with meaningless. Mueller got to have his little media show for the sheep but they'll never be prosecuted so he'll never have to prove it. All sown up! If the half of the country that voted for Trump let this farce continue then they're almost as bad as the sheep, maybe worse because they actuall know some of the truth of the matter and still let it continue. ::)


Gd5150

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 19, 2018, 09:17:16 PM
The next part won't be so amusing though. Anyone have a nosey, busybody neighbor who's always overstepping their boundaries to try to find out the details of your life or to try to get you to go along with what they want and maybe cut your grass a little more often? I do so I know what that's like. Communism is when all those people are in charge. If you don't want to live in a world like that now's the time to do something about it. ;)

Those who value freedom and liberty are...


Kidnostad3

Trump and Rob Goldman are right.  The Russians are laughing their asses off because they played Dems and the MSM like a violin.

https://youtu.be/4IRvD03MfME


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 19, 2018, 10:28:51 PM
Trump and Rob Goldman are right.  The Russians are laughing their asses off because they played Dems and the MSM like a violin.

https://youtu.be/4IRvD03MfME

People need to wake up and ask themselves one question, just one to start to see through all of this: Why would rich people (You know, the people who own and work for the MSM and various other corporations) want communism?!



Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 19, 2018, 10:13:01 PM
... If the half of the country that voted for Trump let this farce continue then they're almost as bad as the sheep...

What do you suggest? 



Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 19, 2018, 11:14:30 PM
People need to wake up and ask themselves one question, just one to start to see through all of this: Why would rich people (You know, the people who own and work for the MSM and various other corporations) want communism?!

My question for the average person supporting the ''progressive'' fascists is why.  Why do you support higher taxes, bigger government, more government intrusion, and a bunch of assholes tearing up our downtowns whenever they feel like throwing a riot?

It's not as though we are getting what we are paying for, or that these people have any expertise in anything other than getting themselves elected or appointed.  They aren't accountable, they aren't responsive, all they're doing is building personal empires and a massive debt that will eventually collapse the economy. 

So, why?  For the gender free bathrooms and gay wedding cakes?  So Latin gang members are safe to commit their crimes here, and all the rest of the destructive garbage the Ds insist on?  I don't get it.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 20, 2018, 12:25:32 AM
More pressure.

Fucking Sessions stupidly recused himself, and a hack operative stepped up and appointed a special prosecutor.  Sessions refuses to investigate the criminals that infested the previous regime, some of which are still embedded in the bureaucracy.

At this point, the decision has been made that it's better politically for Trump to let Muller's investigation play out than it is to fire him.  He can't fire Sessions either, because of who the interim AGs would be, and the circus that would revolve around the appointment and confirmation hearings of the next AG.

So we're stuck.  I agree with Trump that the show must go on.  At some point the American people are going to get fed up, and Muller, the Ds, and the media will be the ones looking like the asses they are.  Fire Muller and to enough people it looks like he has something to hide

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 20, 2018, 12:29:17 AM
My question for the average person supporting the ''progressive'' fascists is why.  Why do you support higher taxes, bigger government, more government intrusion, and a bunch of assholes tearing up our downtowns whenever they feel like throwing a riot?

It's not as though we are getting what we are paying for, or that these people have any expertise in anything other than getting themselves elected or appointed.  They aren't accountable, they aren't responsive, all they're doing is building personal empires and a massive debt that will eventually collapse the economy. 

So, why?  For the gender free bathrooms and gay wedding cakes?  So Latin gang members are safe to commit their crimes here, and all the rest of the destructive garbage the Ds insist on?  I don't get it.

Communism is a farce pulled on the masses by rich people to more completely rule over them. It doesn't result in perfect equality and every historical example proves this. There's still a ruling class and that absolute power always corrupts absolutely and takes full advantage of their positions of power over people. Why do you think idiots like Cuban keeps saying there's no hope for future employment because of automation, as if we didn't have any say in the matter? He thinks he's going to be one of those people.

Gd5150

So now that the MSMedia is orgasming over “Russian troll factories” is there any doubt there have been so-called members here who are paid DNC trolls. People that never have anything to contribute to this site other than pro left views in the political forum. People can have whatever political views they want but when they literally never discuss anything other than their hate for Trump/RNC it seems pretty funny.


Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 20, 2018, 12:38:41 AM
Communism is a farce pulled on the masses by rich people to more completely rule over them. It doesn't result in perfect equality and every historical example proves this. There's still a ruling class and that absolute power always corrupts absolutely and takes full advantage of their positions of power over people. Why do you think idiots like Cuban keeps saying there's no hope for future employment because of automation, as if we didn't have any say in the matter? He thinks he's going to be one of those people.

Exactly. This is why I have always been against a powerful federal government. There will always be people who want power no matter what sort of system is in place.  The best means of controlling such abuses are elections and, now I believe, term limits.

It is also one of the reasons why I'm against humanist doctrine.  Humans will always be tempted by, lust, money and power.  I'm speaking in general terms because I believe most people are basically decent but unfortunately rarely are they the ones that rise to the top to head institutions and governments.

Gd5150

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 20, 2018, 12:29:17 AM
My question for the average person supporting the ''progressive'' fascists is why.  Why do you support higher taxes, bigger government, more government intrusion, and a bunch of assholes tearing up our downtowns whenever they feel like throwing a riot?

It's not as though we are getting what we are paying for, or that these people have any expertise in anything other than getting themselves elected or appointed.  They aren't accountable, they aren't responsive, all they're doing is building personal empires and a massive debt that will eventually collapse the economy. 

So, why?  For the gender free bathrooms and gay wedding cakes?  So Latin gang members are safe to commit their crimes here, and all the rest of the destructive garbage the Ds insist on?  I don't get it.

It’s pretty simple really. They’re uninformed and ignorant. They have simple minds and don’t care enough to educate themselves. It’s easy to be a leftwinger. Their points of view are represented everywhere in news/education/entertainment. They’re simple of course. “I believe in equality so I vote democrat. I believe in the environment so I vote democrat. I believe in women yada yada”. As though there are people who want to destroy the environment. They of course have no understanding of the intricacies of politics, the history of these issues, the fact democrats have had the same song and dance for fifty years and accomplished nothing. And of course they never identify as democrats, they’re always registered “independents” because it makes them feel open minded. It’s pathetic.

The “progressive” members here confirm their level of ignorance on a daily basis. Unable to formulate opinions or cite facts that arent spoon fed to them by the daily spoon feeding leftwing sources. They’re great at cutting and pasting. That’s pretty much all they know how to do.

It’s sad but when you can sit down with them one on one when they’re away from the group think, you can use logic and facts to open their minds. I’ve done it many times. It’s not difficult as we have the truth and facts on our side. As their noose around media/education slowly loosens, their failure is inevitable.

Whatever happened to this tool?  Did his mommy take the computer away fro him?

Quote from: Meister_000 on June 20, 2017, 09:26:54 AM


albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 20, 2018, 12:57:59 AM
Exactly. This is why I have always been against a powerful federal government. There will always be people who want power no matter what sort of system is in place.  The best means of controlling such abuses are elections and, now I believe, term limits.

It is also one of the reasons why I'm against humanist doctrine.  Humans will always be tempted by, lust, money and power.  I'm speaking in general terms because I believe most people are basically decent but unfortunately rarely are they the ones that rise to the top to head institutions and governments.
Original sin? Or, the humanist perspective, we are animals? Each way there should.be no surprise. One view would allow some hope due to grace, agency, etc?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 20, 2018, 01:07:50 AM
Whatever happened to this tool?  Did his mommy take the computer away fro him?

I'm thinking the revolution turned on him/her. All that pent up liberal rage and nowhere to put it...but there's this annoying tool who probably sounded crazy even to them. It seems highly probable. ;)

Gd5150

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 20, 2018, 01:07:50 AM
Whatever happened to this tool?  Did his mommy take the computer away fro him?

Appropriately named 😂


Quote from: albrecht on February 20, 2018, 01:11:14 AM
Original sin? Or, the humanist perspective, we are animals? Each way there should.be no surprise. One view would allow some hope due to grace, agency, etc?

Humanism is the real fairy tale.  They believe that people will get together, hold hands and sing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q


What they don't know is some of those singers are making plans of their own to attain wealth and power and they will step on other people to attain those goals.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 20, 2018, 12:57:59 AM
Exactly. This is why I have always been against a powerful federal government. There will always be people who want power no matter what sort of system is in place.  The best means of controlling such abuses are elections and, now I believe, term limits...

The best means of controlling abuses is to have a small, limited government. Without all that money and ever more power over our personal lives flowing from each of us to DC, it won't be quite the draw for those greedy for power, and to grift the system - which is nearly every one of them. 

It's taken them over two hundred years to create this monster, and it's long since time to eliminate much of it.  And the same goes for government at the state and local levels.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 20, 2018, 01:30:17 AM
... What they don't know is some of those singers are making plans of their own to attain wealth and power and they will step on other people to attain those goals.

You mean like this phony?  One of the wealthiest people in the world - hidden away in his castle, singing about the wonders of socialism and globalism. 

You know, like the other filthy rich Democrats we routinely see on TV - whether they be pols, entertainers, or heads of Silicon Valley corporations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww    

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