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Started by starrmtn001, September 20, 2016, 06:28:48 PM

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(Sandman) Logan-5

#1
September 21, 2016, 01:28:26 PM
That is freaking awesome ! !
Perfect background song too.

Sounded like it was running some sort of turbine.

Yup, must acquire one.  :)     :)     :)


Excellent post, starr.   

starrmtn001

#2
September 21, 2016, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on September 21, 2016, 01:28:26 PM
That is freaking awesome ! !
Perfect background song too.

Sounded like it was running some sort of turbine.

Yup, must acquire one.  :)     :)     :)



Excellent post, starr.
Thank you, Logan. ;D   It looks more like a drone than a board to me, but I'm a tech dummy, so what do I know?  Lol. ;)

I hope you post videos of your first ride. ;)

Uncle Duke

#3
September 21, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 20, 2016, 06:28:48 PM
I WANT one! ;) ;D

Flyboard® Air Test 1

https://youtu.be/KEDrMriKsFM

Wow, that's a nice piece of engineering.  The biggest problem with any flying machine is stability, this thing must use a microprocessor driven stability augmentation system that uses variable and/or vectored thrust to keep it on an even keel.  There have to be set upper and lower "pilot" weight limits built into the control algorithms.  Looks like dedicated propulsion units for vertical and horizontal flight.  You can clearly see four nozzles for vertical flight.  Did not see it fly backwards, so I would assume it can only fly forward, meaning probably two jets for horizontal flight. Ten minutes flight time is very impressive.  Didn't see a fuel tank on the unit itself, but I did see  the pilot wearing a backpack with hoses extending down to the unit so I would guess the backpack is the fuel tank.  I'd find that a bit disconcerting. 

I'd be curious how the FAA will certify the unit itself, and if a licence will be required to operate it.  May be treated like ultralights.

albrecht

#4
September 21, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 21, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Wow, that's a nice piece of engineering.  The biggest problem with any flying machine is stability, this thing must use a microprocessor driven stability augmentation system that uses variable and/or vectored thrust to keep it on an even keel.  There have to be set upper and lower weight limits built into the control algorithms.  Looks like dedicated propulsion units for vertical and horizontal flight.  You can clearly see four nozzles for vertical flight.  Did not see it fly backwards, so I would assume it can only fly forward, meaning probably two jets for horizontal flight. Ten minutes flight time is very impressive.  Didn't see a fuel tank on the unit itself, but I did see  the "pilot" wearing a backpack with hoses extending down to the unit so I would guess the backpack is the fuel tank.  I'd find that a bit disconcerting. 

I'd be curious how the FAA will certify the unit itself, and if a licence will be required to operate it.  May be treated like ultralights.
I never figured out what the rules were for ultralights. Everyso often I see some guy flying one around in his field that is very close to the expanding suburbia. Thing looks like one of my go-carts as a kid but flying. Looks fun but, considering my experiences with go-karts etc I wouldn't trust it!
That is a really cool video and some research says its legit but not for sale yet pending government(s) approval etc. I would dream of being able to fly over all the people stuck in traffic but guessing it wouldn't be allowed on our streets.

Uncle Duke

#5
September 21, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: albrecht on September 21, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
I never figured out what the rules were for ultralights. Everyso often I see some guy flying one around in his field that is very close to the expanding suburbia. Thing looks like one of my go-carts as a kid but flying. Looks fun but, considering my experiences with go-karts etc I wouldn't trust it!
That is a really cool video and some research says its legit but not for sale yet pending government(s) approval etc. I would dream of being able to fly over all the people stuck in traffic but guessing it wouldn't be allowed on our streets.

Back in the nineties, one of my coworkers bought an ultralight.  As I recall, he was not required to have a pilot's licence, but the aircraft had to be FAA certified.  If you buy a fully assembly aircraft, the manufacturer's type certification was sufficient.  In his case, he homebuilt one from a kit that had to be inspected and certified by the FAA before it could be flown.  Don't know what the rules are today.

albrecht

#6
September 21, 2016, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 21, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
Back in the nineties, one of my coworkers bought an ultralight.  As I recall, he was not required to have a pilot's licence, but the aircraft had to be FAA certified.  If you buy a fully assembly aircraft, the manufacturer's type certification was sufficient.  In his case, he homebuilt one from a kit that had to be inspected and certified by the FAA before it could be flown.  Don't know what the rules are today.
Basically it is literally the go-kart of the sky. No license or training needed but like with go-karts not on city streets etc. But, as you mention, some regulation of the sale/inspection of them. A bit crazy, really but I'm all for freedom (over your own property.)
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=1&SID=1ea932219059a71bacc24d87d0c5d959&ty=HTML&h=L&mc=true&n=pt14.2.103&r=PART

cweb

#7
September 21, 2016, 06:47:04 PM
First accidental death lawsuit in 3....2.....

Dr. MD MD

#9
September 21, 2016, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 20, 2016, 06:28:48 PM
I WANT one! ;) ;D

Flyboard® Air Test 1

Interesting. Although I noticed that they didn't show take off and the landing was edited too. Might be something to think about.  ;)

Uncle Duke

#10
September 21, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
https://youtu.be/GgNlumaVPDw

http://www.airvectors.net/avplatfm.html

I knew this thing reminded me of something, a US Army effort to field a flying platform back in the late 50s/early 60s.
Obviously very different design concepts, but basically the same idea.

Taaroa

#13
January 31, 2017, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 21, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
I'd be curious how the FAA will certify the unit itself, and if a licence will be required to operate it.  May be treated like ultralights.

Maybe some kind of human operated drone or experimental category (which is what a lot of kit builds and ex military planes get classed as). Can't imagine it being legal here without written exemptions from the aviation authority.

Or you just hope the aviation authority doesn't get wind of it  ;)

(Sandman) Logan-5

#14
February 09, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
 
These may help...  or just add more confusion.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1117/can-i-declare-a-no-flight-zone-over-my-house
https://aviation.uslegal.com/ownership-of-airspace-over-property/

According to this, if you stay on your own property, the FAA can't say shit.
https://aviation.uslegal.com/ownership-of-airspace-over-property/rights-in-airspace-and-relative-rights-of-surface-proprietors/

Another question is : will the unit be classified as an aircraft, hovercraft, or manned drone ? Different regulations apply.

There are so damn many laws on the books it would take months of research to be perfectly compliant. Get one when they come on the market to avoid the ban later on. ;) You'll still be able to use them on your own property.
As for a means of transportation, all it takes is a couple of assholes to use them dangerously and threaten the safety of others before they are regulated or banned.

On a side note, this might bring a chuckle:  http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1823/can-dna-from-a-booger-be-used-as-evidence
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