I return to discuss...penis size

[analog kid]

          If I walked into wall whilst fully erect...

          I'd probably still break my nose.

Haha. Self deprecating humor is a welcome change from my family who take themselves too seriously.

[Sardondi]

...I just had surgery and I had a nurse, who apparently recognized me from high school, walk over to my operating table, lift the sheet, look at my unit and walked away. I was probably mumbling about frightened turtles as I was being put under.

"Shrinkage! Shrinkage!"

[Eddie Coyle]

Haha. Self deprecating humor is a welcome change from my family who take themselves too seriously.

I know the feeling, tight-assed stoics who can't laugh at themselves and well, anything. My ex in-laws were that way, "you don't joke about those things" types. They were horrified by roughly 88% of every thing I ever said.

Didn't realize you were Jewish ...

Sadly, I have a "pert" Irish...nose. Oy.

[analog kid]

"Shrinkage! Shrinkage!"

It was extremely cold in that hospital.

             I know the feeling, tight-assed stoics who can't laugh at themselves and well, anything. My ex in-laws were that way, "you don't joke about those things" types. They were horrified by roughly 88% of every thing I ever said.

Try having a family-full of narcissists. You can inadvertently challenge their self image while trying to make conversation, and they'll hate you with the heat of a thousand suns.

[Eddie Coyle]

Try having a family-full of narcissists. You can inadvertently challenge their self image while trying to make conversation, and they'll hate you with the heat of a thousand suns.

That would make me even more of a social introvert, if that's possible. Thankfully, my immediate family is largely free of that...or maybe because in my family, I'm viewed the way Josip Tito was in Yugoslavia, they just have the good sense not to do it in front of me.

[onan]

Now I am getting enlarge the peen ads.

[West of the Rockies]

Didn't realize you were Jewish ...

A big-nosed Jew joke?    At the risk of sounding PC and concern-trollish, that comment would be considered very offensive by a very large number of people.  I get the feeling that you probably run a bit to the right politically, so just be aware of how such a joke can sound to some members of the poltical left who may be pointing to just such comments to "prove" that conservatives are racist.

(Disclaimer:  I know that not all -- or even a majority -- of rightwingers are racist.  I'm met racist liberals.  I'm just urging a little more self-awareness with language.)

[McPhallus]

just be aware of how such a joke can sound to some members of the poltical left who may be pointing to just such comments to "prove" that conservatives are racist.

I know of a person on this forum who had that very belief.

[West of the Rockies]

Probably a few, MacPhallus!  (Just as there are a handful who think libs are all brain-dead fools.)  The original comment that caught my attention has been a comedy staple for decades, of course -- maybe centuries -- and I'm not the hall monitor, but I'm pointing out that words have effects.  (My words often have the effect of putting people to sleep!  Now, if only I can figure out a way to use that talent to make millions!)

[stevesh]

A big-nosed Jew joke?    At the risk of sounding PC and concern-trollish, that comment would be considered very offensive by a very large number of people.  I get the feeling that you probably run a bit to the right politically, so just be aware of how such a joke can sound to some members of the poltical left who may be pointing to just such comments to "prove" that conservatives are racist.

(Disclaimer:  I know that not all -- or even a majority -- of rightwingers are racist.  I'm met racist liberals.  I'm just urging a little more self-awareness with language.)

It was a joke - suck me.

[Pragmier]

Uh oh if you don't want a ride to Cuba grab your parachutes now.

[West of the Rockies]

It was a joke - suck me.

Well said, sir... well said.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Welcome back Sardondi, but I think lonevoice stole a little of your thunder with that crazy story.

[ksm32]

This topic might be north korea's entire problem... 

[Sardondi]

This topic might be north korea's entire problem...

The only worthwhile observation in the thread.

[ziznak]

for the record my penis is only about 2 inches long BUT its 12 inches around... its like a hub cap... or a third breast... kinda awkward really.

the ladies call it "THE DESTROYER"

[ksm32]

A shame this thread never made sticky status.

[Jackstar]

the ladies call it "THE DESTROYER"

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[Dr. MD MD]

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[ksm32]

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Big Mac.

Two all beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame bun!

[Jojo]

There is a maddeningly large portion of the female population who aren't aware of this.

I had heard that!
I read the following stories as saying that penises don't have much to do with female satisfaction...

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/neepb8/the-science-of-female-pleasure-still-needs-more-attention

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/sex-study-female-orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289

[21st Century Man]

I had heard that!
I read the following stories as saying that penises don't have much to do with female satisfaction...

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/neepb8/the-science-of-female-pleasure-still-needs-more-attention

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/sex-study-female-orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289

I guess the question I have for you is what do you think?  This thread needs some female responses.

[Juan]

My former boss was in her early 50s, not married with a 12-year old son. She thought men went through puberty and got a permanent erection. She taught her son this and he thought something was wrong because he was occasionally flaccid. He tried to solve his problem by watching lots of porn to his mother’s great dismay.

[Metron2267]

My former boss was in her early 50s, not married with a 12-year old son. She thought men went through puberty and got a permanent erection. She taught her son this and he thought something was wrong because he was occasionally flaccid. He tried to solve his problem by watching lots of porn to his mother’s great dismay.

Thankfully no physical lessons from Mom were involved?

[Jojo]

I guess the question I have for you is what do you think?  This thread needs some female responses.

Long story short, if a man is doing things right, he doesn't even need a penis.

I sincerely believe that ever since circumcision, penile penetration is a often a mere distraction from good sex.

Penile penetration is to a woman what post-sex making-out is to a man.  Blah!  That's why no women are posting here.  Would you want to post on the pleasures of making out after sex?  Of course not.  But basically, to the women I have known, penetration is an after-thought at best, and a terrible substitute for good sex at worst.  Unless it is penetration with something that finds and works on the g-spot.

Anyhow, nowadays with circumcision, everything they call "foreplay" is actually the main event.  The  word foreplay dismisses women's sexuality.  How would men like it if we called their climax, "the dregs"!

As for length, it is like money.  You need "enough" but beyond that, whatever.  And too much can be destructive.

Circumcision removes all the tissues which would give HER pleasure.  Mutually unsatisfying sex might result in good warriors, as it reduces intimacy at home, leaving the men available to go out and war, but circumcision is not good for marital bliss.  They could just snip a little, in honor of religion, instead of mutilating the whole shaft and destroying the mucous membrane (penis).

Also, circumcision results in a man needing more shaft stimulation, so of course men are really into penetration.  But, without circumcision, the penis is much more sensitive, almost painfully so, like the clitoris.  So, relief would come without long rutting.

That said, every person is different.  If you're small, find a small woman if it concerns you.  I'm sure there are sheaths to wear if she says you are small for her.  I could be wrong, but she might be smaller post-climax, so you could strategize that way.  I see nothing wrong with penetrating her with a toys of her choosing, if she really needs a "big" experience.

Men spend so much time concerned about their size, when they should be studying their partner and learning how to please her.

I think the size matters study is not reliable.

If anything, it is worse to be too long.  Cervix-crashing is very painful, leaving basically only doggie-style, which is not very intimate.

Yes, width is important.  When she stretches, her erectile tissue moves, so that feels good.

What pleases a woman varies with her age and hormones.  The clitoris and its wings of erectile tissue are important for climax, as can be the g-spot.  But... If a woman is in a height of hormones, perhaps very young or perhaps in her late thirties, then her vagina might crave more.  And women who use Ben-wa balls might learn different responses, I 'm not sure.  They always looked way too big to me.  And, later in in life when men's penises and women's clitorises atrophy, interior stimulation might be more important, as hormones in cells are more diversely dispersed after a lifetime of use, but not as concentrated in the clitoris necessarily.

For men and women, the most important thing is that erectile tissue, nerves, reflexes, and muscles function well and without pain.  And to the extent that good sex is all in the head, you want loving communication where both people feel.comfortable being vulnerable enough to say what feels good, without having to worry about damaging their partner's ego. 

Hope this helps.

[SredniVashtar]

Long story short, if a man is doing things right, he doesn't even need a penis.

Where's MD when you need him? He's the authority here.

[Metron2267]

I was going to say "TMI" Monica, but your essay was so well-written, accurate and rational that I have to compliment you on your medical expertise in such matters.

Well done.

[ShayP]

Long story short, if a man is doing things right, he doesn't even need a penis.

I sincerely believe that ever since circumcision, penile penetration is a often a mere distraction from good sex.

Penile penetration is to a woman what post-sex making-out is to a man.  Blah!  That's why no women are posting here.  Would you want to post on the pleasures of making out after sex?  Of course not.  But basically, to the women I have known, penetration is an after-thought at best, and a terrible substitute for good sex at worst.  Unless it is penetration with something that finds and works on the g-spot.

Anyhow, nowadays with circumcision, everything they call "foreplay" is actually the main event.  The  word foreplay dismisses women's sexuality.  How would men like it if we called their climax, "the dregs"!

As for length, it is like money.  You need "enough" but beyond that, whatever.  And too much can be destructive.

Circumcision removes all the tissues which would give HER pleasure.  Mutually unsatisfying sex might result in good warriors, as it reduces intimacy at home, leaving the men available to go out and war, but circumcision is not good for marital bliss.  They could just snip a little, in honor of religion, instead of mutilating the whole shaft and destroying the mucous membrane (penis).

Also, circumcision results in a man needing more shaft stimulation, so of course men are really into penetration.  But, without circumcision, the penis is much more sensitive, almost painfully so, like the clitoris.  So, relief would come without long rutting.

That said, every person is different.  If you're small, find a small woman if it concerns you.  I'm sure there are sheaths to wear if she says you are small for her.  I could be wrong, but she might be smaller post-climax, so you could strategize that way.  I see nothing wrong with penetrating her with a toys of her choosing, if she really needs a "big" experience.

Men spend so much time concerned about their size, when they should be studying their partner and learning how to please her.

I think the size matters study is not reliable.

If anything, it is worse to be too long.  Cervix-crashing is very painful, leaving basically only doggie-style, which is not very intimate.

Yes, width is important.  When she stretches, her erectile tissue moves, so that feels good.

What pleases a woman varies with her age and hormones.  The clitoris and its wings of erectile tissue are important for climax, as can be the g-spot.  But... If a woman is in a height of hormones, perhaps very young or perhaps in her late thirties, then her vagina might crave more.  And women who use Ben-wa balls might learn different responses, I 'm not sure.  They always looked way too big to me.  And, later in in life when men's penises and women's clitorises atrophy, interior stimulation might be more important, as hormones in cells are more diversely dispersed after a lifetime of use, but not as concentrated in the clitoris necessarily.

For men and women, the most important thing is that erectile tissue, nerves, reflexes, and muscles function well and without pain.  And to the extent that good sex is all in the head, you want loving communication where both people feel.comfortable being vulnerable enough to say what feels good, without having to worry about damaging their partner's ego. 

Hope this helps.

Nice read.  Well done.  Are you June Reinisch by any chance?  Just wondering.   

[Dr. MD MD]

Where's MD when you need him? He's the authority here.

Keep lusting after me. See if I care! :

[ksm32]

I had heard that!
I read the following stories as saying that penises don't have much to do with female satisfaction...

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/neepb8/the-science-of-female-pleasure-still-needs-more-attention

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/sex-study-female-orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289

When my wife married me it certainly wasn't for money, back then I didn't have any. Would you not agree that woman these days tend to be much more visually stimulated than they use to be? Of course men get turned on fast and furious with the visual whether it be LARGE breasts, nice hair, eyes, hell I even notice if a woman has nice feet!

You never hear about hoards of woman getting exited because the all male Asian review is in town.