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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on September 20, 2017, 11:59:47 AM
Yeah, I would have have preferred that their faces had reflected a much lighter mood on their part consistent with the festive occasion that a of head state addressing the UN General Assembly is. 

I wouldn't. I would have preferred they looked as if they actually believed that what the POTUS was saying was inspirational, worthwhile, not petulant and worthy of the position he holds.. Threatening  to totally destroy NK, (forgetting to consider that many millions of lives including Americans and American allies will be lost) having no concept of what the ME is and isn't; isn't the rantings of a sane mind.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 20, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
I wouldn't. I would have preferred they looked as if they actually believed that what the POTUS was saying was inspirational, worthwhile, not petulant and worthy of the position he holds.. Threatening  to totally destroy NK, (forgetting to consider that many millions of lives including Americans and American allies will be lost) having no concept of what the ME is and isn't; isn't the rantings of a sane mind.


I don't give a rats ass weather anyone in the UN likes him or believes him as long as he follows through on his demand that deadbeat nations start paying their dues and that the rampant corruption within the UN bureaucracy be eliminated.  The UN has proven to be a useless debating society and a waste of valuable real estate in lower Manhatten.  If you doubt that, maybe you can tell me how many wars have been averted by UN action and what specifically it has done to improve the human condition that could not have been achieved by allocating funds to NGOs and through charities with a much lower percentage going to pay for the extravagant lifestyles and outright larceny of international diplomats.  Fuck the UN. 

With regard to Trump's threat to anihilate NK if they pose a clear and present threat to the U.S. or our allies, he said nothing that the last 4 Presidents have not said albeit in more concise and direct terms that leave no room for equivocation. 


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on September 20, 2017, 06:23:12 PM

I don't give a rats ass weather anyone in the UN likes him or believes him as long as he follows through on his demand that deadbeat nations start paying their dues and that the rampant corruption within the UN bureaucracy be eliminated.  The UN has proven to be a useless debating society and a waste of valuable real estate in lower Manhatten.  If you doubt that, maybe you can tell me how many wars have been averted by UN action and what specifically it has done to improve the human condition that could not have been achieved by allocating funds to NGOs and through charities with a much lower percentage going to pay for the extravagant lifestyles and outright larceny of international diplomats.  Fuck the UN. 

With regard to Trump's threat to anihilate NK if they pose a clear and present threat to the U.S. or our allies, he said nothing that the last 4 Presidents have not said albeit in more concise and direct terms that leave no room for equivocation.

NK is not a clear and present threat..The fat kid is. The 20 million that exist there are not the enemy, and if Trump even hints at attacking NK, the fat kid will escape, SK will be attacked, as will Japan and possibly Guam and Hawaii, many millions will be vaporised and China will join in. If that happens then its good night Vienna. Trump is a lunatic and the fat kid knows exactly how to provoke him into spouting some hyperbolic shit that he hasn't thought through.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: starrmtn001 on September 20, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
https://youtu.be/zJh1EGFC-ho

He had a special mention for Nambia (Yes he did say that)...A country that doesn't exist. Maybe he'll get a hotel built there?

aldousburbank

The alt left and Lil Kim now have a common enemy.

N. Korea says Trump threat is 'sound of dog barking'

http://m.yna.co.kr/mob2/en/contents_en.jsp?cid=AEN20170921000652315&domain=3&ctype=A&site=0100000000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on September 20, 2017, 06:23:12 PM

I don't give a rats ass weather anyone in the UN likes him or believes him as long as he follows through on his demand that deadbeat nations start paying their dues and that the rampant corruption within the UN bureaucracy be eliminated.  The UN has proven to be a useless debating society and a waste of valuable real estate in lower Manhatten.  If you doubt that, maybe you can tell me how many wars have been averted by UN action and what specifically it has done to improve the human condition that could not have been achieved by allocating funds to NGOs and through charities with a much lower percentage going to pay for the extravagant lifestyles and outright larceny of international diplomats.  Fuck the UN. 

With regard to Trump's threat to anihilate NK if they pose a clear and present threat to the U.S. or our allies, he said nothing that the last 4 Presidents have not said albeit in more concise and direct terms that leave no room for equivocation.

I never did care for the UN.  Just another botch job after the League of Nations.  I did my part for UNICEF when I was a treak or treater but realized just how impotent (for that we should be grateful) it was. I think my evaluation of the UN was solidified after watching The Pink Panther Strikes Again.  Inspector Dreyfus had the right idea.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire pud link=topi 2284.msg1103603#msg1103603 date=1505955582
NK is not a clear and present threat..ugh.

Whew!  What a relief!  And here everyone but you and two others on the planet where thinking that it was.  Thanks for enlightening us.



albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 20, 2017, 07:01:19 PM
He had a special mention for Nambia (Yes he did say that)...A country that doesn't exist. Maybe he'll get a hotel built there?
In his defense (you must spell it that way now since you fled your Muslim-becoming homeland for the USA ;) ) it is hard to keep up with African countries names- especially in some regions. It seems like every other day some "Congo," for example, has renamed itself into some other name or border changes and towns or physical formations all over the former colonies are frequently renamed to "native" names- or renamed based on whatever tribe or dictator takes over the leadership of the particular failed state. Frankly, unless one is actively working for some energy or mining concern I don't see how/why they would know the names of the various African countries, places, or borders (and, as an aside,  since, as we all know, borders are evil it could be argued that even the concept of  "African countries," is a social-construct of evil, white, European hegemonic thinking left over from evil colonialism/racism.)

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on September 20, 2017, 08:24:02 PM
Whew!  What a relief!  And here everyone but you and two others on the planet where thinking that it was.  Thanks for enlightening us.

Appeasers gonna appease


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on September 20, 2017, 08:37:29 PM


Are those liberal tears all over him? He must have gone to one of Hillary's book signings.  ???

GravitySucks

Quote from: albrecht on September 20, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
In his defense (you must spell it that way now since you fled your Muslim-becoming homeland for the USA ;) ) it is hard to keep up with African countries names- especially in some regions. It seems like every other day some "Congo," for example, has renamed itself into some other name or border changes and towns or physical formations all over the former colonies are frequently renamed to "native" names- or renamed based on whatever tribe or dictator takes over the leadership of the particular failed state. Frankly, unless one is actively working for some energy or mining concern I don't see how/why they would know the names of the various African countries, places, or borders (and, as an aside,  since, as we all know, borders are evil it could be argued that even the concept of  "African countries," is a social-construct of evil, white, European hegemonic thinking left over from evil colonialism/racism.)

And yet Namibia does.  I can remember Yorkshire Pud making fun of Obama when he mentioned he had visited 57 states and that was all except for two of them.  Of course, when you are born in Kenya, why would you know how many stars are on our flag?

albrecht

Quote from: GravitySucks on September 20, 2017, 08:48:56 PM
And yet Namibia does.  I can remember Yorkshire Pud making fun of Obama when he mentioned he had visited 57 states and that was all except for two of them.  Of course, when you are born in Kenya, why would you know how many stars are on our flag?
But the guy who fled his country was claiming, and maybe Trump did, that Trump said "NAMBIA" (without the "I".) And so I pointed out that African countries change so much that unless one in involved in energy or mining (or is one of the few remaining white farmers under attack) that why should anyone know all the names, borders, etc. They change all the time.

Plus borders are evil and the even the notion of "African country" is a legacy of Western hegemony and racism/colonialism artificially imposed on the African people.

GravitySucks

Quote from: albrecht on September 20, 2017, 09:01:25 PM
But the guy who fled his country was claiming, and maybe Trump did, that Trump said "NAMBIA" (without the "I".) And so I pointed out that African countries change so much that unless one in involved in energy or mining (or is one of the few remaining white farmers under attack) that why should anyone know all the names, borders, etc. They change all the time.

Plus borders are evil and the even the notion of "African country" is a legacy of Western hegemony and racism/colonialism artificially imposed on the African people.

Liberia?

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 20, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
Are those liberal tears all over him? He must have gone to one of Hillary's book signings.  ???

There's that marginally coherent dingleberry.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 20, 2017, 07:01:19 PM
He had a special mention for Nambia (Yes he did say that)...A country that doesn't exist. Maybe he'll get a hotel built there?

It's a mistake I've heard before and, as you people routinely swallow whole syllables in your place names, that's a rich nit to pick.  Considering there's a Zambia and a Gambia, the odds are better than usual.

GravitySucks

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2017, 09:29:14 PM
It's a mistake I've heard before and, as you people routinely swallow whole syllables in your place names, that's a rich nit to pick.  Considering there's a Zambia and a Gambia, the odds are better than usual.

It's not like YP actually listened to the speech.

Has Laura Kinch changed her user name to PudExit yet?

K_Dubb

Quote from: GravitySucks on September 20, 2017, 09:33:06 PM
It's not like YP actually listened to the speech.

Has Laura Kinch changed her user name to PudExit yet?

To be perfectly honest, I haven't heard the Africa speech either but I couldn't resist the urge to swing at that perverse linguistic imperialism whereby Britishers jealously preserve every idiosyncrasy of local pronunciation and orthography and snigger behind their hands as we try to cope, all the while stubbornly persisting with Copenhagen for København just across the water.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2017, 09:29:14 PM
It's a mistake I've heard before and, as you people routinely swallow whole syllables in your place names, that's a rich nit to pick.  Considering there's a Zambia and a Gambia, the odds are better than usual.
So much easier, but even then often changed a lot, during colonial or "European" controlled areas. Some of the name changes to natural attractions and cities are tongue twisters now. I suspect this doesn't help in tourism, hunting parties, and investment, actually. Speaking of which was it by train, I think? You used to pass by "Afrikahaven" and other cool old warehouses and docking named after place of origin on the way into Amsterdam?

Actually I'm always a bit suspect of a non-academic or career civil servant (or someone involved in certain international business or military ventures) who knows "too much" about place names in volatile foreign lands. Then again, what if we had a Jeopardy! (trademarked by Merv Griffin) competition for certain positions in government?

The only talk radio I've listened to this week has been an hour of Medved complaining about tattoos.  I feel remarkably well as a result. I'm going to see if I can avoid it for the rest of the week so I have no commentary to add about Trump and his UN speech.

GravitySucks

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
To be perfectly honest, I haven't heard the Africa speech either but I couldn't resist the urge to swing at that perverse linguistic imperialism whereby Britishers jealously preserve every idiosyncrasy of local pronunciation and orthography and snigger behind their hands as we try to cope, all the while stubbornly persisting with Copenhagen for København just across the water.

I would bet a quid (if I knew what that was) that YP can not name the countries in the commonwealth without looking at a list.

Quote from: GravitySucks on September 20, 2017, 09:59:43 PM
I would bet a quid (if I knew what that was) that YP can not name the countries in the commonwealth without looking at a list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0INwWMaTNk

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
To be perfectly honest, I haven't heard the Africa speech either but I couldn't resist the urge to swing at that perverse linguistic imperialism whereby Britishers jealously preserve every idiosyncrasy of local pronunciation and orthography and snigger behind their hands as we try to cope, all the while stubbornly persisting with Copenhagen for København just across the water.
I disagree. Actually I love that the "Anglo-Saxon" world, or at least once was, insisted on using our own names for cities- even ones in relative close proximity or ones we invaded, bombed, had show trials (kidding?,) forced to buy drugs, and what-not. "Cologne," Copenhagen (it is now also a best selling tobacco product in the USA,) "Nuremberg," Peking, Bombay, Burma, etc to name the popular ones. I don't like various press organizations in our countries reverting to some "native" or "restyling" the names. And we need to get our collective act together and deal with a famous Jewish holiday and a certain, now dead, Libyan dictator and an Osama/Usama terrorist (who liked porn*). Find a spelling and STICK WITH IT across the board.

* why wouldn't they the names and genres of the porn supposedly found at his compound and release to the public. Why did Obama protect his legacy by not releasing that information. It would be interesting. They released some details of his books (I heard there were some "inside job" and political books supposedly found there.)

Gd5150

Quote from: 21st Century Man on September 20, 2017, 09:56:51 PM
The only talk radio I've listened to this week has been an hour of Medved complaining about tattoos.  I feel remarkably well as a result. I'm going to see if I can avoid it for the rest of the week so I have no commentary to add about Trump and his UN speech.

Well done. It's even better when you turn off the television and the constant barrage of pop news. Everything this year has been OMG bombshells about Trump, that after 3-4 days turn out to be nothing burgers that have been done by others countless times. When you look back at this entire year, literally almost nothing important has happened other than a few natural disasters. But following it on a daily basis has felt like a nonstop roller coaster train wreck about to derail. And yet, it never does.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on September 20, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
So much easier, but even then often changed a lot, during colonial or "European" controlled areas. Some of the name changes to natural attractions and cities are tongue twisters now. I suspect this doesn't help in tourism, hunting parties, and investment, actually. Speaking of which was it by train, I think? You used to pass by "Afrikahaven" and other cool old warehouses and docking named after place of origin on the way into Amsterdam?

Actually I'm always a bit suspect of a non-academic or career civil servant (or someone involved in certain international business or military ventures) who knows "too much" about place names in volatile foreign lands. Then again, what if we had a Jeopardy! (trademarked by Merv Griffin) competition for certain positions in government?

Well, I think a certain conservatism when venturing into recent changes is prudent.  I was told recently that referring to Ukraine with the article was an insulting demotion to province status, an absurd distinction since I am persuaded Russian (or is it Ruthenian here haha people have such short memories) has no articles to speak of.  Naming is territory fraught with peril over the most picayune distinctions.

I've been hearing all sorts of permutations of Qatar recently and was pleased to note that, in a commercial paid for by the Qataris themselves, they use a perfectly reasonable ka-TAR rather than some of the gutter nonsense I've heard.  Speaking of, when did all the Arabic ks become qs (without an attendant u, which bugs me to no end) with no discernible alteration in pronunciation?  I understand transliteration from a different alphabet is often ambiguous, but someone should make up his mind.  I have the sense that these differences become sort of shibboleths that mean a lot more to the people playing the game than they ever could to me in my American complacency, and I entirely share your suspicion.


K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on September 20, 2017, 10:06:05 PM
I disagree. Actually I love that the "Anglo-Saxon" world, or at least once was, insisted on using our own names for cities- even ones in relative close proximity or ones we invaded, bombed, had show trials (kidding?,) forced to buy drugs, and what-not. "Cologne," Copenhagen (it is now also a best selling tobacco product in the USA,) "Nuremberg," Peking, Bombay, Burma, etc to name the popular ones. I don't like various press organizations in our countries reverting to some "native" or "restyling" the names. And we need to get our collective act together and deal with a famous Jewish holiday and a certain, now dead, Libyan dictator and an Osama/Usama terrorist (who liked porn*). Find a spelling and STICK WITH IT across the board.

* why wouldn't they the names and genres of the porn supposedly found at his compound and release to the public. Why did Obama protect his legacy by not releasing that information. It would be interesting. They released some details of his books (I heard there were some "inside job" and political books supposedly found there.)

Ha we are thinking the same; my point is that you can't make fun of people who don't say Thames quite right without realizing you commit the same blunders as soon as you get off your little island.

Quote from: Gd5150 on September 20, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
Well done. It's even better when you turn off the television and the constant barrage of pop news. Everything this year has been OMG bombshells about Trump, that after 3-4 days turn out to be nothing burgers that have been done by others countless times. When you look back at this entire year, literally almost nothing important has happened other than a few natural disasters. But following it on a daily basis has felt like a nonstop roller coaster train wreck about to derail. And yet, it never does.

Thanks.  I 've been working a lot , sitting around watching old movies that have no discernable political agenda and hopping on the internet in my spare time.   Life's too short to spend much time on political bullshit. I get the news headlines but that is about it.  Heard some stupid comments from Jimmy Kimmel but I don't follow his stupid show so I could care less.  I'm mostly just following the hurricanes. 

analog kid

Quote from: Gd5150 on September 20, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
Well done. It's even better when you turn off the television and the constant barrage of pop news. Everything this year has been OMG bombshells about Trump, that after 3-4 days turn out to be nothing burgers that have been done by others countless times. When you look back at this entire year, literally almost nothing important has happened other than a few natural disasters. But following it on a daily basis has felt like a nonstop roller coaster train wreck about to derail. And yet, it never does.

Meanwhile, Cater, Page, Stone, Manafort, Sessions, Kushner, Pence, Trump and Trump Jr. have all lied about their ties to Russia. Repeatedly. Some under oath and on their disclosure forms. And you think Trump has been in the New York real estate business since the 80s without breaking any laws? You think the team of prosecutors digging in his past aren't going to find any problems? Granted there's a five-year statute of limitations on all of that, but that's unless any of that criminal activity is relevant to anything unlawful he might be doing now. Why do you think he's been lying about it so much? Why do you think he flips out about anyone looking into his taxes? You guys can't be that naive.

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